Occupy
Hamburghttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=53.551355lon=9.999325zoom=18layers=M:)
There is an unwritten rule for temporary content. The problem is with some
applications that have offline data. They get the state when it's
downloaded, and then it's refreshed after a few months. So you
2011/11/8 Erik Johansson e...@kth.se
The concept you describe would be the other mantra tagging for the
rendrer, for me at least. Or is my interpretation wrong?
No, it's the opposite.
Tagging *for the renderer* would be to put tourism=camp_site although it
has nothing to do with tourism.
Your question is the same as if someone asked why isn't there an official
Linux; not Ubuntu, not Mint, not Debian, but simply official Linux
distribution.
Open source and open data don't work that way. A healthy ecosystem with
lots of apps is the goal.
Janko
I would like the system to suggest friends, based on a number of
indicators. Something like edits on the same place or edits power lines
(bus routes, forests) like you or edits ways you drawn earlier or just
started with openstreetmap near you, why don't you help him.
And you can select if you
Has anyone used HOT's Task management for cleaning maps of dirty
elements? This could improve involvement and progression checking..
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I suggest the OSM heat map http://yosmhm.neis-one.org/ for personalizing
your message.
I also tried looking for their nick on Google, because many people use the
same nick on several services.
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2011/12/14 Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de
David Earl wrote:
When writing the mails
So these are the affected areas:
http://yosmhm.neis-one.org/#?zoom=2lat=2.25504lon=1.1081layers=B0Tu=h4ck3rm1k3
You are the biggest red contributor in Croatia, and remapping your work
is going to take us a lot of work. How do we relicense your work?
Janko Mihelić
2011/12/15 Mike Dupont
Ups, link doesn't work. Put h4ck3rm1k3 in the text box.
2011/12/15 Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com
So these are the affected areas:
http://yosmhm.neis-one.org/#?zoom=2lat=2.25504lon=1.1081layers=B0Tu=h4ck3rm1k3
You are the biggest red contributor in Croatia, and remapping your work
is going
It seems odbl.de isn't very accurate at dividing data.
It says here you contributed a lot:
http://odbl.de/croatia.html
And on the heatmap it says you didn't:
http://yosmhm.neis-one.org/?u=h4ck3rm1k3
Janko
2011/12/16 Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
I think you can just move my old
it's a long shot, but this would help a lot.
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There is a statement here:
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/faq.html#3.html
And there is no special marking of copyright on those maps.
Janko
2012/1/15 Simon Poole si...@poole.ch
These maps seem to be derived from non-US sources (maps) that may
actually still be copyrighted. Has there been
There is such thing as sustainable mapping. That means, you should map
things that are likely to be properly corrected when they change. A better
alternative for graves would be a link to the graveyards website where
there could be a list of graves.
Janko
2012/1/19 LM_1
2012/1/24 Pieren pier...@gmail.com
I could add another one : delete what is beyond understanding.
Because your principle is against another one : verifiability.
Because your principle - if it is tolerated - might end up with
elements tagged with dozen references to external applications and
2012/2/15 Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl
I'm curious why the power_source tag is set to deprecated while the
Mapnik stylesheet has not been adapted to include the new tag. I would
think that would the logical step.
Not rendering the new public transport proposal is slowing down the change
to
Would it be possible for Foursquare to let us use the information users
type in (restaurant names, addresses)? There is a lot of good information
there.
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I had the same situation in Zagreb, and I mapped it by convention, divided
the road where a platform appears. It looks like this:
http://osm.org/go/0Ismhve08--
My reasoning is that when we add more information (number of lanes, which
lane goes into which) renderers of the future will do a better
2012/3/12 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org
http://fred.dev.openstreetmap.org/lowzoom/
The land cover looks great. I would maybe add country borders and remove
region labels. If not remove, then make different than country labels. It's
a bit of a mess like this.
Janko
Great stuff. Beautiful.
Found one error, it doesn't watch for turn restrictions when a way has the
via role. So, U-turns are not restricted.
Only Mapquest watches for these.
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you had discussions about this topic, what was the conclusion?
Thanks,
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2012/3/22 Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl
It's difficult to make a precise definition of course. Some ideas of mine:
No hard surface: footpath
No houses next to it: footpath
High use: pedestrian
Urban area: pedestrian
The wide expanse is in the sense of a (town) square or a pedestrian area.
2012/3/22 Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl
In Barcelona I encountered this street:
http://maps.google.nl/maps?**ll=41.380584,2.181439spn=0.**
000779,0.001894t=mz=19**layer=ccbll=41.380584,2.**
2012/3/22 Pieren pier...@gmail.com
But this discussion might continue on the tagging mailing list.
I'm sorry, I wasn't aware of the list. Going there right now.
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the issue of different renderers, and different renderings of
data within the same renderer (Mapquest renders highways different in USA).
Maybe there should be a wiki page from where images would be extracted.
Translations are already extracted from http://translatewiki.net
Janko Mihelić
2012/3/22 Ishan Agrawal ishan.agrawa...@gmail.com
4) Currently I am researching under a professor at my University on
Indoor Navigation and Mapping using just a Android phone without using
external sensors. I am looking into the best ways to do it and found
some interesting work being done
2012/3/23 Elena ``of Valhalla'' elena.valha...@gmail.com
On 2012-03-21 at 17:35:28 +0100, Janko Mihelić wrote:
Some of those look like potential pedestrian to me: the main criterion
I use is not whether cars have ever used the way but whether
cars could use them if they were legally allowed
://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Public_Transport
Send any questions here!
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2012/4/2 Pallav Shinghal pshing...@gmail.com
Hi,
I'm an undergraduate at the National University of Singapore. I'm
interested in working with OSM for GSoC 2012. I have been working on
an idea
and are linked to osm
objects.
The announcement and a short description on josm mailing
listhttp://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/josm-dev/2012-March/006099.html
.
Unfortunately, I can't find the plugin in JOSM right now, but that is
probably a temporary problem.
Janko Mihelić
2012/4/13 Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com
Unfortunately, I can't find the plugin in JOSM right now, but that is
probably a temporary problem.
Janko Mihelić
It's not published in JOSM yet, everything is in this pdf:
https://github.com/geofabrik/sds-server/raw/master/doc/sds.pdf
Janko
:)
Unfortunately, cycleway:left=lane in my city isn't rendering. Don't know
about cycleway=lane.
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should do that.
Also lots of mappers put School in school names, Airport in airport
names, Bay in bay names, and so on..
My question is, should the renderer join lake, school and airport
with their names? I think that would make users put in cleaner data.
Janko Mihelić
Why isn't geoDns used for this like with the gorwen and orm **server in
Sweden? It seems like the perfect fit for this technology.
http://dns.openstreetmap.org/tile.openstreetmap.org.html
Janko
2012/4/27 Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org
Thx kate
Yes, we just copy the planet, reimplement it
2012/5/17 Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org
Hi malcom
I install seamap, it is using google map and opensea content
I still confuse how opensea stand with openstreet
Frans
They both use same data. This data is in the Openstreetmap database.
For example this sea light:
2012/5/22 colliar colliar4e...@aol.com
The major problem I have with splitting cycleways of the highway is the
missing reference to the highway. In Germany you have to use a cycleway
by law (with some exceptions) and if the cycleway and the highway are
mapped as two highways I do not get the
2012/6/14 Peter Wendorff wendo...@uni-paderborn.de
So yes, it's useful to know about the park-and-ride stuff, but
1) I agree with you, that probably parking=yes is not the best way to tag
that, and
2) (the more important question for me as a data consumer in this case),
if that tag
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl wrote:
We're still talking about http://map.project-osrm.org aren't we? osrm
certainly supports turn restrictions! I tried a few in my area and they
all
worked fine.
Regards,
Maarten
Restrictions when via is a way, not
There was some talk about using a Separate Data Server to do something like
this:
https://github.com/geofabrik/sds-server/raw/master/doc/sds.pdf
We just need someones initiative :)
I was thinking about a mashup of osm data and sites with restaurant
critics like TripAdvisor. They don't have very
Is there a way to see Apple maps if you don't have an iphone?
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When I draw footways, I like to connect them to the first crosswalk. That
way a router can route people through a street if there are no drawn
footways, and then cross to a footway at the crosswalk.
2012/9/27 David Turner nova...@novalis.org
Chicago's pedway system on OSM is a bit wrong -- it's
2012/10/16 Mike N nice...@att.net
Is there any Smartphone coverage for those areas? Google can track via
their Smartphone apps. By generating tracks from the owner's movements, a
road can be inferred. A consistent set of movements on a track at 20-40
kph would indicate a dirt road.
I
How do proponents of copying from Streetview explain the difference between
copying from satellite images and copying from Streetview? With satellite
images you copy shapes of roads, with Streetview you copy street names. The
same thing.
Janko
2012/11/6 Vladimir Vyskocil
Nobody answered yet. How is copying from Streetview photos not the same as
copying from satellite photos? Both are photos, both show facts, both are
owned by Google.
Yet everybody agrees we shouldn't copy from satellite photos, but many
people think we can copy from Streetview.
What is the
2012/11/6 Pieren pier...@gmail.com
It's because on StreetView, we don't trace on the photo. Doing this
on aerial imagery is reusing the transformation process of images
rectified (including relief with DEM) and georeferenced. This is the
added value protected. Facts visible on aerial imagery
OSRM made a layer that is visible in Geofabrik's Inspector here:
tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=routing
It detects oneway streets that are dead ends, so you can't get out, streets
that are islands, and simmilar topological errors. Unfortunately, it is
only available in Europe.
Janko
2012/11/18 John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com
What are you considering to be the difference between a stop position
and where the stop is? I consider where something is to be its position.
He is talking about the tag value, stop_position:
What about addr:interpolation? Do you count all the housenumbers in
between, or only the ones on the ends? I think all should be counted. And
not because I use those a lot :)
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routing capacity is possible?
Janko Mihelić
2013/1/3 Yohan Boniface yohanbonif...@free.fr
Hi,
This email for introducing the uMap project.
TL;DR: http://umap.fluv.io/ (demo site).
The goal of the project is to provide an app for easy creation of slippy
maps for *non technical* end user
2013/1/7 Jo winfi...@gmail.com
But how do you propose to count those? There might be numbers missing in
the sequence or there might be 4A, 4B, 4C, etc in between. 2 and 6. At
least such discrepancies are possible in Belgium.
I try to remove those discrepancies as much as possible, but I
2013/1/7 John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com
In some cases, address interpolation may produce addresses that don't
exist on the ground. My parents lived for years on a street that has
several sharp turns. In order to keep the addresses more-or-less in sync
between the two sides of the
I started a Croatian translation :)
I have one feature request. You should give people badges for giving us the
name of a street when there is no name.
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2013/1/18 Svavar Kjarrval sva...@kjarrval.is
It does look strange when the Mapnik rendering doesn't seem to take width
into account when rendering the data. Especially when we've drawn landuse
areas around it (using fly-over imagery) and there's empty space between
their boundaries and the
on the
map (a circle for a POI, a line for a street)
In the future, we should make a service that gives meaning to key-value
pairs. For example, oneway=yes and oneway=-1 are just oneway, and
oneway=no is twoway.
Janko Mihelić
2013/1/21 Roland Olbricht roland.olbri...@gmx.de
Dear all,
have you
the version.
Janko Mihelić.
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Has anyone tried Vespucci and GoMap to compare for us?
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I too shall map Pyongyang for our brothers in North Korea (Best Korea).
They have right hand driving there. That means this intersection is wrong
in many ways:
http://osm.org/go/55c9eXgZW-
Janko Mihelić
2013/1/29 Gregory nomoregra...@googlemail.com
On 29 January 2013 13:03, Pierre Béland
Looks to me like the news is that Google has the data, not that the data
is available. Oh well. Back to JOSM.
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2013/2/13 Andrew Errington erringt...@gmail.com
I don't think that's an appropriate way to name it. It's not a locality,
nor
is it really a place. It's a junction, with a name.
I think junction=yes and name=* is the best way to record it, the next step
would be to get it rendered.
I
2013/2/15 Andrew Errington erringt...@gmail.com
So, what I want is for Mapnik to render a label at a node if the there is a
junction=yes tag (and name=* tag) present. This has been stated in the
wiki
for a long time.
Or better, if there is a junction=* and name=*. Except when junction=no.
If you want to help in developing the feature for easy street searching,
you can donate to the cause here:
http://www.bidforfix.com/p/osmand.net/
Under fulltext street/address search with suggesting. I guess this is
what you are talking about?
Janko
2013/2/22 Tanveer Singh
like music=rock;classical;popular that
differentiates those halls, and tag them all with amenity=music_venue.
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2013/2/25 Peter Wendorff wendo...@uni-paderborn.de
I like the idea of tags for concert hall, music venue and the like, but it
should be possible to mix them, e.g. by using a very generic term (like
amenity=event_location) and several sub tags (like: concert_events=yes,
sport_events=regularly,
2013/3/26 Andrew Errington erringt...@gmail.com
Yup, it looks fine.
With or without a rectangle is ok.
What about traffic lights? Is it necessary to see them behind the label?
Here you can see Google doesn't hide traffic lights:
http://goo.gl/maps/BgxjN
And the rectangle makes the
Maybe not construction, but proposed. Highway=proposed means that a road is
planned there.
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People use this geometry and get offended if you delete it. There is this
page http://ant.dev.openstreetmap.org/bingimageanalyzer/, but vectors can
be useful for some scenarios. I think a separate database would be the best
solution.
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We had a deployment of OSM Tasking Manager, and it gives you a possibility
to make a task with boundaries taken from a OSM way. We used one of this
imagery boundaries.
It could be used for aligning imagery offset, for analysis of data
frequency based on imagery availability, etc.
I think this
Great service! Thanks for making it.
I have one remark. When you have a route, I don't know what is the start
and what is the end. It needs one of those checkered patterns to identify
the end, or Googles A-B-C, or OSRMs Green-Yellow-Red.
Janko
2013/4/6 yvecai yve...@gmail.com
On 04/06/2013
I made a wikidata tag proposal:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Wikidata
I think osm -- wikidata is much better than wikidata -- osm. At least
while we don't have a solution for persistent ID's.
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One solution could be to have a little marker symbol on the lower right of
the map. If the user drags it over the map, it becomes permanent, and when
you click the permalink, it takes it into consideration. That way you could
drag several markers over the map.
Janko
2013/5/23 Tobias Knerr
2013/7/25 Frédéric Bonifas fredericboni...@gmail.com
One identified bias is that each contributor is assigned the country
where he has contributed the most as his main country. But this may be
false.
This is clearly visible with Germany. Germans have nothing else to map in
their country, so
2013/7/28 Stefan Keller sfkel...@gmail.com
OSM UI? I found the video of the presentation but can't find any hint
in this direction:
http://vimeopro.com/openstreetmapus/state-of-the-map-us-2013/video/68093877
I assume that you are referring to some statistics displayed about
users which to
2013/7/29 Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com:
Games can be... gamed.
As a pipsqeak in the power pole mapping influence peddling ring, I could
zoom to the top with a few evenings of shifting nodes that did not really
need shifting. If the game is important enough to be gamed... it will
2011/10/11 Dave Stanley da...@dbsconsult.co.uk
Thanks for the advice. The Bing image does appear to be spot on. I have
started having a tidy up and will continue when I can. Most of the GPS
tracks will be from me in that area. Unfortunately I only travel a few
routes for my work. I am
I think only cable starts and ends should be mapped, and tagged in a
standardised way. If that is all we have, that is all we should map. Then
cable starts and ends could be put in a relation with a name, number and
tags like that.
Janko
2011/10/17 Matthias Meißer dig...@arcor.de
Am 17.10.2011
2011/10/26 80n 80n...@gmail.com
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Grant Slater
openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote:
Why wouldn't OSM publish their tiles under the most liberal license they
are able to?
80n
Maybe the reason is that information could be extracted from them, and put
into
The question is, can you run your own tile server for less money than the
Google's payment model. If you can, OSM is for you. If you can't, google
maps is still ok.
Janko
2011/10/31 Matthias Meißer dig...@arcor.de
Yes I guess this trend will come and I realy want to slow down your action
2011/11/7 Paul Norman penor...@mac.com
There was some discussion about a True Offset Process
(http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/True_Offset_Process) awhile back, but
I'm not sure if any code ever got written.
The leader of the project, Dermot
2013/8/19 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com
Relations are fragile and if they are almost hidden for the mapper a
warning should be the minimal precaution (or alternatively don't let iD
users do these kind of edits where relations are involved and would be
damaged).
A turn
2013/8/20 Tom MacWright t...@macwright.org
In this case and others, we should keep in mind whether P2 or JOSM have
safer or smarter behavior. Would they 'notice' that this new road segment
has meaning? Put another way: iD will never prevent all mistakes, but does
it prevent less than P2 and
Lets get back on track again, ID as default. If we stop nitpicking, I think
ID has pretty much all that Potlatch has. In addition to that, it doesn't
use non-free software, and is really much easier for beginners to use. For
me personaly, it's much more streamlined and faster to use. Try drawing a
Track is used more and more for unpaved roads. Mapnik and other renderers
are probably a big reason, because they don't render
Surfacehttp://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Surfaceand
Smoothness http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:smoothness tags. I
really don't know of any renderers that show
Those two piers on the beach port are actually man_made=breakwater.
They are used to shelter the beach from winds and waves. I would map
them as an area, sharing the nodes of the coastline.
As for the beach, I would just draw an area around it, and tag it as a
natural=beach. Maybe someone could
Well, the A46 and A44 are trunk roads, and the Hinton road is an
unclassified road. Of course the router is going to think it's much
faster to go by trunk road. If you want to fix that, you'll have to
put in the maxspeed tags. Then the router will have enough information
to choose the better path.
2013/9/2 Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk:
If the fix for this is to manually apply the national speed limit to every
road, then OK, it's the first time anybody has suggested a fix and I'm
willing to give it a try ...
It's useful to give the source of the maxspeed. So if you have a sign, just
2013/9/23 Pieren pier...@gmail.com
-1
Check cities with tens of thousands buildings. You will have sometime
the building tag on ways, sometimes on relations. Having the tag
always on the surrounding way is more consistent and easier to catch
for everybody, including newcomers.
Not if they
2013/10/19 Pieren pier...@gmail.com
It's even easier to add the tag on existing countries relations. No
need for extra ways, neither tagging on ways.
+1
Are there any timezones that don't follow country or some other
administrative borders?
Janko
2013/10/22 Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Johan C osm...@gmail.com wrote:
Essentially what we need is the concept of layers.
I don't think we really need layers, but could use editors that are
semantically aware of things like boundaries,
and put them
That is really a beautiful map, thanks for showing it to us. The level of
mapping in Yaoundé is astounding.
Janko
2013/11/3 Sob Willy-Franck sobze...@yahoo.fr
GeoCameroun (www.geocameroun.cm) : THE free mapping portal product by
citizens.
GeoCameroun, first free Spatial Data
2013/11/5 Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net
combined with
the fact that it will be impossible to glue border
nodes to other features, will probably address 98 or
99% of the issues we see today.
The problem is, some admin borders are supposed to be glued to roads or
rivers, and they
2013/11/5 Simon Poole si...@poole.ch
Two remarks:
- I do not see how filters in editors do anything more to this issue
than make it worse, particularly in the case when the border has been
merged with an other object. Do you make the object immutable? Or do you
simply hide the fact that
If someone thinks borders should be in a different database, they should
just make the database. If that is the superior solution, data consumers
will pick it up and start using that one over the existing one. I think
having a few parallel databases would make a nice little ecosystem.
Janko
2014/1/13 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com
legal issues aside my concern is that Corine Data is not suitable
technically for OSM: the resolution is too low and not compatible with the
rest of our data.
I agree. Importing Corine is a big mistake for any OSM community. The best
way
2014/1/24 Pavol Rusnak st...@gk2.sk
Isn't that because of the Oil Pipeline?
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ad/Oil_pipelines_in_Europe.png
(that's just a very wild guess, I am not from Russia :-))
No pipelines there in OSM, although there are some gas pipelines in the
2014/1/24 Ilya Zverev zve...@textual.ru
It is not vandalism, but selectively mapped farm lands. There are too many
farms, and a mapper chose to draw only those that form the letter. There
have been such cases in other resions, and mappers generally don't object
to such art, considering anyone
2014-02-27 16:32 GMT+01:00 Michael Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz:
One thing to consider is adding some sort of subsidiary tags, such as
suggested, add closed to the name, but leave the main aeroway tagged for a
few years. If an airport suddenly disappears from normal map rendering
there is a
I think we can divide features to virtual and physical features.
Virtual: highway centerlines, waterway centerlines, administrative borders,
industrial and residental landuse, parks
Physical: riverbanks, buildings, meadows, forests, farm fields
Can we make a rule to never share points between
2014-02-28 9:42 GMT+01:00 Christian Quest cqu...@openstreetmap.fr:
Instead of a rule, promote this as a best-practice or a guideline...
that's more in the OSM open spirit.
Something like Validation layer in JOSM.
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The disambiguating word is initially. I explicitly say that
separating nodes is an improvement. I'm trying to make it clear that
glued vs separate is a good vs better issue, not a wrong vs
right one.
So if someone starts
2014-03-05 13:30 GMT+01:00 Christoph Hormann chris_horm...@gmx.de:
..there are currently no thematic mapping related lists at all
so it seems somewhat odd to separate specifically these subjects.
There is one,
talk-transit.http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit
Janko
2014-03-05 15:06 GMT+01:00 Pieren pier...@gmail.com:
The transit tagging schema is universally known as a success story ...
It will become a success when the first public transport router comes up.
Until then, there is basically no use for it.
Janko
This is great news. I think the database is getting a Mapbox Satellite boom
in the next few months. Thanks guys for everything.
Janko
2014-04-10 16:56 GMT+02:00 Alex Barth a...@mapbox.com:
Effective immediately the Mapbox Satellite option in iD and JOSM is 100%
open for tracing in
2014-04-30 6:56 GMT+02:00 Yves yve...@gmail.com:
Then the bitcoin aspect is more a tagging issue: they accept bitcoin
through menufy.com only.
This is bad mapping. If they really need that information in there, I'd
suggest payment:menufy=yes, and then ask the Coinmap maker to show those
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