Re: [OSM-talk] Without an address, an Icelandic tourist drew this map of the intended location (Búðardalur) and surroundings on the envelope. The postal service delivered!

2016-09-05 Thread Oleksiy Muzalyev
I typed "slums" in Google and looked at resulting numerous images of slums. I tried to imagine where to place street signs or block number plaques. Often the walls of shacks are made from a mixture of worn-out fabric, cardboard, corrugated iron. Even if street signs are placed on poles, I am

Re: [OSM-talk] Without an address, an Icelandic tourist drew this map of the intended location (Búðardalur) and surroundings on the envelope. The postal service delivered!

2016-09-05 Thread Morten Lange
Hi, 1. Did anyone yet bring into this discussion the Japanese adresse system ?  According to Wikipedia: "Street names are seldom used in postal addresses (except in Kyoto and some Hokkaidō cities such as Sapporo), and most Japanese streets do not have names.Banchi blocks often have an irregular

Re: [OSM-talk] Without an address, an Icelandic tourist drew this map of the intended location (Búðardalur) and surroundings on the envelope. The postal service delivered!

2016-09-05 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 30 August 2016 at 16:03, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: >> a classical system of addresses from the 19th century is not >> affordable. > Tell me what's not affordable about spray-painting letters > on the sides of buildings? The costs of surveying, allocating street names

Re: [OSM-talk] Without an address, an Icelandic tourist drew this map of the intended location (Búðardalur) and surroundings on the envelope. The postal service delivered!

2016-09-05 Thread Rory McCann
Related to this, someone in Ireland is playing a game with the Irish postal service (An Post), and seeing what sort of addresses they will interpret. https://www.thejournal.ie/me-versus-an-post-2143603-Jun2015/ http://meversusanpost.tumblr.com/ He's posted a mobius strip, crossword puzzle,

Re: [OSM-talk] Without an address, an Icelandic tourist drew this map of the intended location (Búðardalur) and surroundings on the envelope. The postal service delivered!

2016-08-31 Thread Oleksiy Muzalyev
On 31/08/16 10:03, Maarten Deen wrote: How did people manage before the age of smartphones, accurate GPS and free maps? Regards, Maarten Felix Dellatre, a German who lives in Managua, told in his presentation "Community mapping in Nicaragua" at the OSM US conference in San Francisco in

Re: [OSM-talk] Without an address, an Icelandic tourist drew this map of the intended location (Búðardalur) and surroundings on the envelope. The postal service delivered!

2016-08-31 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Il giorno 31 ago 2016, alle ore 09:39, Oleksiy Muzalyev > ha scritto: > > But this approach is not scalable, - even on this map you can see three Rua > C, four Rua A (Rua means Street in Portuguese). first it wouldn't harm to get a tiny bit

Re: [OSM-talk] Without an address, an Icelandic tourist drew this map of the intended location (Búðardalur) and surroundings on the envelope. The postal service delivered!

2016-08-31 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2016-08-31 09:39, Oleksiy Muzalyev wrote: On 31/08/16 07:54, Andreas Vilén wrote: Imo it's better to let these areas choose their own (classic) addresses and then report these to the authorities. /Andreas It looks like they are trying to do exactly this. Here is a map of a part of Rio

Re: [OSM-talk] Without an address, an Icelandic tourist drew this map of the intended location (Búðardalur) and surroundings on the envelope. The postal service delivered!

2016-08-31 Thread Oleksiy Muzalyev
On 31/08/16 07:54, Andreas Vilén wrote: "frame;lock;door" hmm... or was it "frame;lock;window"? ---> mail gets delivered to the other side of the world. If you write "Main street 15" instead of "Main street 13" it will probably get delivered correctly anyway as long as the name is correct.

Re: [OSM-talk] Without an address, an Icelandic tourist drew this map of the intended location (Búðardalur) and surroundings on the envelope. The postal service delivered!

2016-08-30 Thread Andreas Vilén
"frame;lock;door" hmm... or was it "frame;lock;window"? ---> mail gets delivered to the other side of the world. If you write "Main street 15" instead of "Main street 13" it will probably get delivered correctly anyway as long as the name is correct. Also, tell people who are supposed to deliver

Re: [OSM-talk] Without an address, an Icelandic tourist drew this map of the intended location (Búðardalur) and surroundings on the envelope. The postal service delivered!

2016-08-30 Thread john whelan
>When MP3 appeared it immediately became clear that the era of CD is over. No, anyone who listens to Classical music will tell you they are not the same thing at all. John On 30 August 2016 at 17:05, Oleksiy Muzalyev wrote: > On 30/08/16 20:12, Stefano wrote: > >

Re: [OSM-talk] Without an address, an Icelandic tourist drew this map of the intended location (Búðardalur) and surroundings on the envelope. The postal service delivered!

2016-08-30 Thread Oleksiy Muzalyev
On 30/08/16 20:12, Stefano wrote: 2016-08-30 19:24 GMT+02:00 Colin Smale >: I am going to say this very quietly what3words IKEA furniture is more recognizable than english words http://www.what3ikea.com/ /s Cheers, Stefano

Re: [OSM-talk] Without an address, an Icelandic tourist drew this map of the intended location (Búðardalur) and surroundings on the envelope. The postal service delivered!

2016-08-30 Thread Maurizio Napolitano
On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 8:12 PM, Stefano wrote: > > > 2016-08-30 19:24 GMT+02:00 Colin Smale : >> >> I am going to say this very quietly what3words >> >> > > > IKEA furniture is more recognizable than english words > http://www.what3ikea.com/ don't

Re: [OSM-talk] Without an address, an Icelandic tourist drew this map of the intended location (Búðardalur) and surroundings on the envelope. The postal service delivered!

2016-08-30 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El martes, 30 de agosto de 2016 19:10:15 (CEST) Craig Wallace escribió: > If you want to use a postcode/coordinate system, there are plenty of > better options. > eg Open Location Codes (Plus Codes). https://plus.codes/ Or www.what3fucks.com. -- Iván Sánchez Ortega

Re: [OSM-talk] Without an address, an Icelandic tourist drew this map of the intended location (Búðardalur) and surroundings on the envelope. The postal service delivered!

2016-08-30 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 1:36 PM, Colin Smale wrote: > Have you shared your idea with USPS? Let's all use lat/lon and scrap all > that silly business with street names and zip codes. Having hauled mail, I would occasionally come across something addressed by

Re: [OSM-talk] Without an address, an Icelandic tourist drew this map of the intended location (Búðardalur) and surroundings on the envelope. The postal service delivered!

2016-08-30 Thread john whelan
I think the long latitude is unfortunately well understand, groups nearby places together and these days with word-processing and cut and paste not that difficult to handle. Unfortunately it doesn't have a check digit so if it's written with two digits transposed you've had it. Post offices

Re: [OSM-talk] Without an address, an Icelandic tourist drew this map of the intended location (Búðardalur) and surroundings on the envelope. The postal service delivered!

2016-08-30 Thread Colin Smale
On 2016-08-30 20:25, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 1:19 PM, Colin Smale wrote: > >> We have - that's why I am whispering. But w3w is not intended for the US. >> It's for places which don't have addresses already, which apparently is a >> large part of

Re: [OSM-talk] Without an address, an Icelandic tourist drew this map of the intended location (Búðardalur) and surroundings on the envelope. The postal service delivered!

2016-08-30 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 1:19 PM, Colin Smale wrote: > We have - that's why I am whispering. But w3w is not intended for the US. > It's for places which don't have addresses already, which apparently is a > large part of the world. And I would be surprised if even a US

Re: [OSM-talk] Without an address, an Icelandic tourist drew this map of the intended location (Búðardalur) and surroundings on the envelope. The postal service delivered!

2016-08-30 Thread Andy Townsend
On 30/08/2016 19:10, Paul Johnson wrote: I swear to god we've been over this... Surely the natural conclusion is a "what3osmtalkthreads" - something like "your address is 'sidewalks, imports, licensing' ..." :) Cheers, Andy ___ talk mailing

Re: [OSM-talk] Without an address, an Icelandic tourist drew this map of the intended location (Búðardalur) and surroundings on the envelope. The postal service delivered!

2016-08-30 Thread Colin Smale
On 2016-08-30 20:10, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 1:05 PM, Colin Smale wrote: > >> w3w solves the problem of you not having a (compact) answer to "what´s your >> address?" if you want to have something delivered. The fact that you only >> have to

Re: [OSM-talk] Without an address, an Icelandic tourist drew this map of the intended location (Búðardalur) and surroundings on the envelope. The postal service delivered!

2016-08-30 Thread Stefano
2016-08-30 19:24 GMT+02:00 Colin Smale : > I am going to say this very quietly what3words > > IKEA furniture is more recognizable than english words http://www.what3ikea.com/ /s Cheers, Stefano > > > On 2016-08-30 19:12, Florian Lohoff wrote: > > > Hola, > > On Tue,

Re: [OSM-talk] Without an address, an Icelandic tourist drew this map of the intended location (Búðardalur) and surroundings on the envelope. The postal service delivered!

2016-08-30 Thread Craig Wallace
On 2016-08-30 18:24, Colin Smale wrote: I am going to say this very quietly what3words Which forces you to use the what3words website, or an officially licensed app. If you want to use a postcode/coordinate system, there are plenty of better options. eg Open Location Codes (Plus

Re: [OSM-talk] Without an address, an Icelandic tourist drew this map of the intended location (Búðardalur) and surroundings on the envelope. The postal service delivered!

2016-08-30 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 1:05 PM, Colin Smale wrote: > w3w solves the problem of you not having a (compact) answer to "what´s > your address?" if you want to have something delivered. The fact that you > only have to remember three words is for humans. But indeed the

Re: [OSM-talk] Without an address, an Icelandic tourist drew this map of the intended location (Búðardalur) and surroundings on the envelope. The postal service delivered!

2016-08-30 Thread Colin Smale
w3w solves the problem of you not having a (compact) answer to "what´s your address?" if you want to have something delivered. The fact that you only have to remember three words is for humans. But indeed the delivery person needs a computer. //colin On 2016-08-30 19:43, Florian Lohoff wrote:

Re: [OSM-talk] Without an address, an Icelandic tourist drew this map of the intended location (Búðardalur) and surroundings on the envelope. The postal service delivered!

2016-08-30 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 8:44 AM, Oleksiy Muzalyev < oleksiy.muzal...@bluewin.ch> wrote: > https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/50a5pk/without_an_add > ress_an_icelandic_tourist_drew_this/?ref=share_source=link > > I never saw this type of addressing on an envelope. It is interesting > because

Re: [OSM-talk] Without an address, an Icelandic tourist drew this map of the intended location (Búðardalur) and surroundings on the envelope. The postal service delivered!

2016-08-30 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 07:24:02PM +0200, Colin Smale wrote: > I am going to say this very quietly what3words I dont think what3words solves the issue of structured Addressing. Addresses are typically strict hierarchical and offer some serious concepts you cant build with what3words.

Re: [OSM-talk] Without an address, an Icelandic tourist drew this map of the intended location (Búðardalur) and surroundings on the envelope. The postal service delivered!

2016-08-30 Thread Colin Smale
I am going to say this very quietly what3words On 2016-08-30 19:12, Florian Lohoff wrote: > Hola, > > On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 05:03:39PM +0200, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: Warning: > flame thread about to start. > > El tirsdag 30. august 2016 16.50.14 CEST Oleksiy Muzalyev escribió: It is

Re: [OSM-talk] Without an address, an Icelandic tourist drew this map of the intended location (Búðardalur) and surroundings on the envelope. The postal service delivered!

2016-08-30 Thread Florian Lohoff
Hola, On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 05:03:39PM +0200, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: > Warning: flame thread about to start. > > El tirsdag 30. august 2016 16.50.14 CEST Oleksiy Muzalyev escribió: > > It is clear that in Iceland there are street signs. However, a growing > > number of people on Earth is

Re: [OSM-talk] Without an address, an Icelandic tourist drew this map of the intended location (Búðardalur) and surroundings on the envelope. The postal service delivered!

2016-08-30 Thread Oleksiy Muzalyev
On 30.08.2016 17:03, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: ... Tell me what's not affordable about spray-painting letters on the sides of buildings? ... If it were as simple as this. An address, currently a street name and house number, is to be present in a property title, so it should be unambiguous

Re: [OSM-talk] Without an address, an Icelandic tourist drew this map of the intended location (Búðardalur) and surroundings on the envelope. The postal service delivered!

2016-08-30 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
Warning: flame thread about to start. El tirsdag 30. august 2016 16.50.14 CEST Oleksiy Muzalyev escribió: > It is clear that in Iceland there are street signs. However, a growing > number of people on Earth is living in slums [1] or slum-like areas, > where a classical system of addresses from

Re: [OSM-talk] Without an address, an Icelandic tourist drew this map of the intended location (Búðardalur) and surroundings on the envelope. The postal service delivered!

2016-08-30 Thread Oleksiy Muzalyev
It is clear that in Iceland there are street signs. However, a growing number of people on Earth is living in slums [1] or slum-like areas, where a classical system of addresses from the 19th century is not affordable. The majority of people do not have any addresses and will never have them,

Re: [OSM-talk] Without an address, an Icelandic tourist drew this map of the intended location (Búðardalur) and surroundings on the envelope. The postal service delivered!

2016-08-30 Thread Jóhannes Birgir Jensson
The actual address to that farm would be much shorter even, Hólar, Búðardal. Simple phone book lookup gives us this https://ja.is/?q=h%C3%B3lar%20b%C3%BA%C3%B0ardal (here Hólar has been changed to dative case Hólum). Probably you'll find a small sign by the driveway to the farm at the main