Re: Annual fee or pay for major releases?

2004-12-05 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Gonçalo! On Saturday, December 4, 2004 at 10:33:25 PM you wrote: In my opinion they should diverse their software portfolio instead of over-charge their products. Over-charge? And there are people out there thinking *I* tend to hyperbole ... And for diversification: That's the easiest

Re[2]: Annual fee or pay for major releases?

2004-12-05 Thread Gonalo Farias
DH Hello Gonçalo! DH On Saturday, December 4, 2004 at 10:33:25 PM you wrote: In my opinion they should diverse their software portfolio instead of over-charge their products. DH Over-charge? And there are people out there thinking *I* tend to DH hyperbole ... :) I my opinion, an annual fee

Re: Annual fee or pay for major releases?

2004-12-05 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Gonçalo! On Sunday, December 5, 2004 at 10:56:54 AM you wrote: :) I my opinion, an annual fee is over-charging. Imagine if this gets to M$ and they like the idea... :) 1. MS had the idea long ago but didn't implement it - yet. 2. I still don't think it would be over-charging, but I

Re: Annual fee or pay for major releases?

2004-12-05 Thread Allie
Hi Dierk Haasis, On 5/12/2004 5:10 AM, you wrote: I'd like small companies sticking to their guns. And RL does a good job at programming e-mail software (not so good in communication, granted). From what I know they also consult. I think they already have diversified: The Bat! The Bat! Private

Re: How Do I Keep IMAP From Connecting?

2004-12-05 Thread Allie
Hi Keith Russell, On 5/12/2004 1:51 AM, you wrote: Clarification: I just timed it, and I'm getting the login dialog every minute, exactly. Probably the update folder counts option is still enabled. Go in the IMAP fine-tune options (it's in the account properties) and disable the option 'When

Re[2]: Annual fee or pay for major releases?

2004-12-05 Thread Gonalo Farias
DH Hello Gonçalo! DH On Sunday, December 5, 2004 at 10:56:54 AM you wrote: :) I my opinion, an annual fee is over-charging. Imagine if this gets to M$ and they like the idea... :) DH 1. MS had the idea long ago but didn't implement it - yet. DH 2. I still don't think it would be

Re[2]: Annual fee or pay for major releases?

2004-12-05 Thread Gonçalo Farias
A Hi Dierk Haasis, A On 5/12/2004 5:10 AM, you wrote: I'd like small companies sticking to their guns. And RL does a good job at programming e-mail software (not so good in communication, granted). From what I know they also consult. A I think they already have diversified: A The Bat! A

Re: Annual fee or pay for major releases?

2004-12-05 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Allie! On Sunday, December 5, 2004 at 11:23:58 AM you wrote: I think they already have diversified: One e-mail client, one e-mail server, one e-mail Web interface, one side product from SecureTB. Don't know anything about TinyWeb except that it exists. Sounds a bit like: Golf hatchback,

Re: Annual fee or pay for major releases?

2004-12-05 Thread AC Martin
Hi Dierk Haasis, On 5/12/2004 5:41 AM, you wrote: You get my drift. Not really. I'd agree if they were still selling The Bat!, SecureBat! and AbacusBat! etc. I'd agree that this wouldn't really represent diversification. However, they're quite diverse. An e-mail client and a mailserver are

Re[2]: Annual fee or pay for major releases?

2004-12-05 Thread Gonçalo Farias
AM Hi Dierk Haasis, AM On 5/12/2004 5:41 AM, you wrote: You get my drift. AM Not really. I'd agree if they were still selling The Bat!, SecureBat! AM and AbacusBat! etc. I'd agree that this wouldn't really represent AM diversification. AM However, they're quite diverse. AM An e-mail client

Re: Annual fee or pay for major releases?

2004-12-05 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Gonçalo! On Sunday, December 5, 2004 at 11:31:25 AM you wrote: Did you ever saw M$ lose an opportunity to get some extra dollar$? Don't know, have never been an MS basher, actually I've never been a corporation basher. Perhaps MS saw that they couldn't make more dough that way? But

Re: Annual fee or pay for major releases?

2004-12-05 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Gonçalo, A reminder of what Gonçalo Farias on TBBETA typed on: 05 December 2004 at 12:08:36 GMT +0100 GF TheBat!Private Disk is in fact Dekart Private-Disk (try GF http://www.dekart.net/ or http://www.private-disk.net/). GF It's probably an agreement they made... they

expired certificate

2004-12-05 Thread M. K. ZBOROWSKI
Hello, TLS handshake failure. Invalid server certificate (This certificate has expired). Of course because of cert expiration I couldn't get new mails and to do that I had to change my email account configuration from secure to regular. I was wondering why free programs like Mozilla let us

We need your help with BayesIt

2004-12-05 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Tbbeta, We wanted to release a stable version of BayesIt and lack good tester to help us finally catch some hard-to-reproducde bugs. Could you please use BayesIt seriously and assist us in finding the bugs? There is BayesIt category on the bugtracking server, and you can contact Alexey

Re: We need your help with BayesIt

2004-12-05 Thread Julien RANC
Hello Maxim, Recently, I saw: MM Could you please use BayesIt seriously and assist us in finding MM the bugs? I would be pleased to help on this topic. Could anyone please post a link to the latest BayesIt Version ? I am currently very happy but it is with version 0.5.9 ... --

Re: We need your help with BayesIt

2004-12-05 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Maxim, A reminder of what Maxim Masiutin on TBBETA typed on: 05 December 2004 at 19:20:00 GMT +0100 MM Could you please use BayesIt seriously and assist us in finding the bugs? I've been using it seriously for ages. It just sits there and, well, works, on it's own without me having

Re: We need your help with BayesIt

2004-12-05 Thread Baphomet [aka Izakaron]
Hi, Maxim! : msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: MM Thank you very much again! We hope we will manage to release a MM stable version of BayesIt for Christmas! I am currently very happy but it is with version 0.7.5 Very-very best version -- Ave Satanas!, Baphomet [aka Izakaron] e-mail:

Re[2]: We need your help with BayesIt

2004-12-05 Thread Alexey N. Vinogradov
Hello, Julien. You wrote 06.12.2004 @ 2:23 JR I would be pleased to help on this topic. Could anyone please post a JR link to the latest BayesIt Version ? http://www.ritlabs.com/download/bayesit/bayesit076.rar -- Sincerely, Alexey. Using TB 3.0.2.5 on WinXP Pro SP2 (2600), spelling by

Question about 076

2004-12-05 Thread danger
Hello Alexey, Sunday, December 5, 2004, 1:31:29 PM, you wrote: The dbg folder is it new and what do we do with it? -- Best regards, dangermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA'

Re: Question about 076

2004-12-05 Thread Alexey N. Vinogradov
Hello, danger. You wrote 06.12.2004 @ 3:03 d Hello Alexey, d Sunday, December 5, 2004, 1:31:29 PM, you wrote: d The dbg folder is it new and what do we do with it? If you place the content of the folder together with bayesit.tbp, and if some fatal crash of The bat! happens, then drwatson's

Re: We need your help with BayesIt

2004-12-05 Thread msr_mailing_lists
Hi Maxim, MM Hello Tbbeta, MM We wanted to release a stable version of BayesIt and lack MM good tester to help us finally catch some hard-to-reproducde bugs. MM Could you please use BayesIt seriously and assist us in finding MM the bugs? There is BayesIt category on the bugtracking server, MM

Re[3]: We need your help with BayesIt

2004-12-05 Thread Peter Hampf
Good evening Alexey, on Mon, 6 Dec 2004 02:31:29 +0800 GMT your local time you wrote: ANV http://www.ritlabs.com/download/bayesit/bayesit076.rar can you tell me, please, what is the directory dbg for? The archive raised from 173 to 621 KB. -- Regards, Peter Using Ritlabs TheBat! 3.0.2.10

Re[4]: We need your help with BayesIt

2004-12-05 Thread Peter Hampf
PH can you tell me, please, what is the directory dbg for? While sending the previous message I received your answer ;) -- Regards, Peter Using Ritlabs TheBat! 3.0.2.10 (OS: Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2) Current beta is

Re: We need your help with BayesIt

2004-12-05 Thread Tony Boom
Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED], A reminder of what [EMAIL PROTECTED] on TBBETA typed on: 05 December 2004 at 20:20:44 GMT +0100 msn I have a quick template that sends this data to me every day at 0600 msn so I can keep an eye on BayesIt. Care to publish that QT please, I'm interested. --

Re[2]: Annual fee or pay for major releases?

2004-12-05 Thread MFAS
Hello AC, Sunday, December 5, 2004, 5:50:50 AM, you wrote: AM The Bat! Private Disk is a spin off the SecureBat! encryption it would AM seem. I feel the Private Disk is a marketing of a product by Dekart. See: http://www.dekart.com/products/file_disk_encryption/private_disk/ AM Perhaps

Re: We need your help with BayesIt

2004-12-05 Thread Henk de Bruijn
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Maxim, On Sun, 5 Dec 2004 20:19:42 +0200GMT (5-12-2004, 19:19 +0100, where I live), you wrote: We wanted to release a stable version of BayesIt and lack good tester to help us finally catch some hard-to-reproducde bugs. Could you please

Re[2]: We need your help with BayesIt

2004-12-05 Thread msr_mailing_lists
Hi Tony, TB Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED], TB A reminder of what [EMAIL PROTECTED] on TBBETA typed on: TB 05 December 2004 at 20:20:44 GMT +0100 msn I have a quick template that sends this data to me every day at 0600 msn so I can keep an eye on BayesIt. TB Care to publish that QT please, I'm

Re: We need your help with BayesIt

2004-12-05 Thread Tony Boom
Hello ?, A reminder of what [EMAIL PROTECTED] on TBBETA typed on: 05 December 2004 at 20:52:56 GMT +0100 msn I just changed it to a weekly report, to make it a daily, just change msn all occurrences of 168 to 24... Thank you very much. For the chaps at RIT, here's my Bayesit stats.

Re[3]: We need your help with BayesIt

2004-12-05 Thread Paul F. Siebern
Hi TBBETA, A Hello, Julien. A You wrote 06.12.2004 @ 2:23 JR I would be pleased to help on this topic. Could anyone please post JR a link to the latest BayesIt Version ? A http://www.ritlabs.com/download/bayesit/bayesit076.rar Any chance of installing instructions in English? The page on the

Re: expired certificate

2004-12-05 Thread Army RedLeg
Hello M., Sunday, December 5, 2004, 4:49:07 AM, you wrote: TLS handshake failure. Invalid server certificate (This certificate has expired). Of course because of cert expiration I couldn't get new mails and to do that I had to change my email account configuration from secure to regular. I

Re: We need your help with BayesIt

2004-12-05 Thread Bill McCarthy
On Sun 5-Dec-04 12:31pm -0600, Alexey N. Vinogradov wrote: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/bayesit/bayesit076.rar What hasn't changed: 10-07-04 advanced.ini 2-23-04 kludges.txt What has changed: 12-03-04 BayesIt.tbp 12-06-04 history.txt What is new: 12-03-04

Re: We need your help with BayesIt

2004-12-05 Thread Bill McCarthy
OnSun5-Dec-0412:19pm-0600,MaximMasiutinwrote: WewantedtoreleaseastableversionofBayesIt andlackgoodtestertohelpusfinallycatchsome hard-to-reproducdebugs.CouldyoupleaseuseBayesIt seriouslyandassistusinfindingthebugs?Thereis "BayesIt"categoryonthebugtrackingserver,andyou

Re[2]: We need your help with BayesIt

2004-12-05 Thread Sean Rima
Hello Bill, Sunday, December 5, 2004, 9:35:59 PM, you wrote: On Sun 5-Dec-04 12:19pm -0600, Maxim Masiutin wrote: We wanted to release a stable version of BayesIt and lack good tester to help us finally catch some hard-to-reproducde bugs. Could you please use BayesIt seriously and

Re: Annual fee or pay for major releases?

2004-12-05 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Gonçalo, On Sun, 5 Dec 2004 09:56:54 +GMT (5-12-2004, 10:56 +0100, where I live), you wrote: GF Goncalo Farias GF -- GF I'm sorry Mr. Moderator, I'll go back on topic soon! You shouldn't have said that. Not with a cutsign that doesn't work properly. :furious: -- Groetjes, Roelof

Re: We need your help with BayesIt

2004-12-05 Thread Bill McCarthy
On Sun 5-Dec-04 12:19pm -0600, Maxim Masiutin wrote: We wanted to release a stable version of BayesIt How about adding something to the RitLabs site so we can see what the latest version is? And also let us download it from there. -- Best regards, Bill Beta 3.0.2.10 Pro BayesIt! 0.7.6

Re: We need your help with BayesIt

2004-12-05 Thread Bill McCarthy
On Sun 5-Dec-04 3:45pm -0600, Sean Rima wrote: I gave up with Bayesit as it was missing the same spam time after time, I use the Bayes Filter Plugin and get a lot better results, nothing would make me change back Even if it became the best anti-spam tool around? Why? -- Best regards, Bill

Re[2]: We need your help with BayesIt

2004-12-05 Thread Sean Rima
Hello Bill, Sunday, December 5, 2004, 11:55:29 PM, you wrote: On Sun 5-Dec-04 3:45pm -0600, Sean Rima wrote: I gave up with Bayesit as it was missing the same spam time after time, I use the Bayes Filter Plugin and get a lot better results, nothing would make me change back Even if it

Re[2]: Annual fee or pay for major releases?

2004-12-05 Thread Gonalo Farias
RO Hallo Gonçalo, RO On Sun, 5 Dec 2004 09:56:54 +GMT (5-12-2004, 10:56 +0100, where I RO live), you wrote: GF Goncalo Farias GF -- GF I'm sorry Mr. Moderator, I'll go back on topic soon! RO You shouldn't have said that. Not with a cutsign that doesn't work RO properly. :furious: It's a

Re[3]: We need your help with BayesIt

2004-12-05 Thread John Thomas
Hello Sean, Sunday (December 5, 2004, 1:45 PM) you wrote: SR I gave up with Bayesit as it was missing the same spam time after SR time, I had this problem too. My guess is the database is not set up correctly, yet. No matter what my setting or how much training I fed Bayesit, it never seemed

Re[4]: We need your help with BayesIt

2004-12-05 Thread Sean Rima
Hello John, Monday, December 6, 2004, 12:38:34 AM, you wrote: Hello Sean, Sunday (December 5, 2004, 1:45 PM) you wrote: SR I gave up with Bayesit as it was missing the same spam time after SR time, I had this problem too. My guess is the database is not set up correctly, yet. No matter

Re: We need your help with BayesIt

2004-12-05 Thread Greg Strong
Hello Paul, Sunday, December 5, 2004, 1:23:15 PM, Paul F. Siebern wrote: A http://www.ritlabs.com/download/bayesit/bayesit076.rar Any chance of installing instructions in English? The page on the website is so outdated it's useless. Which page are you referring too? Is it

Re[2]: We need your help with BayesIt

2004-12-05 Thread Paul F. Siebern
Hi TBBETA, G Which page are you referring too? Is it G http://klirik.narod.ru/usefuls/bayesiteng.htm ? That's the one. G Unless I'm missing something here I do NOT see any Solution on G RitLabs site. I think at one time there was one, but not in english. -- Grimnir The Bat! Version

Re: We need your help with BayesIt

2004-12-05 Thread Greg Strong
Hello Greg, Sunday, December 5, 2004, 8:05:03 PM, Greg Strong wrote: ,- [ per http://klirik.narod.ru/usefuls/bayesiteng.htm ] | Since the add-on BayesIt was included into official distribution of the | last versions of The Bat!, the information page about installing and | setting up the

I need your help with BayesIt

2004-12-05 Thread Henk de Bruijn
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello TBBETA Ok, installed it. Can I import/copy information from Spampal (blacklisted emailaddresses, IP-addresses? If so how do I do that? Do I have to change the standardsettings? tia - -- cheers, Henk

Re: Beta 10 IMAP No workie

2004-12-05 Thread Peter Fjelsten
AC, On 02-12-2004 22:50, you [AM] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: I confirm that. 3.0.2.10 continuous loses connection to all of my four imap-accounts - one after one... ping, ping, ping, ping. Even a reconnect doesn't work - have to close TB and restart it. AM Confirmed here. :( I know I