Hello Thomas,
Sunday, May 8, 2011, 6:50:25 PM, you wrote:
Hello Marck,
On Sun, 8 May 2011 18:35:07 +0100 GMT (09/May/11, 0:35 AM +0700 GMT),
Marck Pearlstone wrote:
MP ... snip
MP I think TB may have lost the ability to decode inline UUE in the
MP re-write.
MP ... snip
TOG What's your
Hi Tony,
We have both made our points, the decision is now with Ritlabs. And
then ultimately, with their paying customers and *their* priorities
with reading emails and viewing attachments.
Funny how one's priorities change.
I am getting a contact form by email from a website coded in
On Sat, 7 May 2011 13:43:20 -0300, Simon Martin wrote:
Could someone who is NOT using Courier please save the mail,
zip it and PM it to me please.
Just out of curiosity I did a little test of my own.
- In Forte Agent I saved the offending message in Unix Mailbox format.
The relevant parts of
Dear Arjan,
@08-May-2011, 14:31 +0200 (08-May 13:31 here) Arjan de Groot [ADG]
in mid:881ds6d2263do6jvu2vs4nd4p2q6soc...@4ax.com said:
ADG For clarity: this also means TB! is not just simply importing messages
ADG but modifies them while importing. I am not quite sure if it should be
ADG allowed
Hello Marck,
On Sun, 8 May 2011 13:47:02 +0100 GMT (08/May/11, 19:47 PM +0700 GMT),
Marck Pearlstone wrote:
ADG For clarity: this also means TB! is not just simply importing messages
ADG but modifies them while importing. I am not quite sure if it should be
ADG allowed to do that.
MP When
Dear Thomas,
@8-May-2011, 23:52 +0700 (08-May 17:52 here) Thomas Fernandez [TOG]
in mid:24048256.20110508235...@thomas-bkk.my-fqdn.de said to Marck:
... snip
MP When importing messages from a non-email compliant (news)
MP format, of course TB has to reformat the messages to be fully
MP MIME
Hello Marck,
On Sun, 8 May 2011 18:08:59 +0100 GMT (09/May/11, 0:08 AM +0700 GMT),
Marck Pearlstone wrote:
MP I think TB may have lost the ability to decode inline UUE in the
MP re-write. It clearly still has a UUE decoder for use in the
MP importer. As for why some can and some can't see the
Dear Thomas,
@9-May-2011, 00:28 +0700 (08-May 18:28 here) Thomas Fernandez [TOG]
in mid:6410625341.20110509002...@thomas-bkk.my-fqdn.de said to Marck:
... snip
MP I think TB may have lost the ability to decode inline UUE in the
MP re-write.
... snip
TOG What's your opinion on this? Should TB!
Hello Marck,
On Sun, 8 May 2011 18:35:07 +0100 GMT (09/May/11, 0:35 AM +0700 GMT),
Marck Pearlstone wrote:
MP ... snip
MP I think TB may have lost the ability to decode inline UUE in the
MP re-write.
MP ... snip
TOG What's your opinion on this? Should TB! continue to decode UUE? I for
TOG one
On Sunday, May 8, 2011, 19:08:59, Marck Pearlstone wrote:
I think TB may have lost the ability to decode inline UUE in the
re-write.
It hasn't - I sent myself several messages with UUEncoded attachments,
and they all arrived intact. I tried receiving them both through POP3
connection and
On Fri, 6 May 2011 05:30:25 +0700, Thomas wrote:
begin 644 thebat_error_20110430.gif
... snip
I wonder where this begin 644 comes from.
It means literally: now follows an Uuencoded block.
I've forgotten most about the backgrounds but I still remember
Uuencoding is one of the first (perhaps
Hello Marck,
On Thu, 5 May 2011 23:50:13 +0100 GMT (06/May/11, 5:50 AM +0700 GMT),
Marck Pearlstone wrote:
TOG Same problem as with Tony, who I just replied to by seperate mail.
TOG What is your mail server?
MP MDaemon 8.0.3
You just blew the theory out through the chimney. Or MDaemon has the
Hello Arjan,
On Fri, 06 May 2011 10:46:02 +0200 GMT (06/May/11, 15:46 PM +0700 GMT),
Arjan de Groot wrote:
I wonder where this begin 644 comes from.
AdG It means literally: now follows an Uuencoded block.
AdG I've forgotten most about the backgrounds but I still remember
AdG Uuencoding is one
On Friday, May 6, 2011, 17:03:24, Thomas Fernandez wrote:
You just blew the theory out through the chimney. Or MDaemon has the
same bug as Courier IMAP.
How do you get TB to send with UUEncoding at all? I wanted to do some
tests, but despite setting By default, encode attachments using [UU
Hello Jernej,
On Fri, 6 May 2011 18:05:47 +0200 GMT (06/May/11, 23:05 PM +0700 GMT),
Jernej Simončič wrote:
You just blew the theory out through the chimney. Or MDaemon has the
same bug as Courier IMAP.
JS How do you get TB to send with UUEncoding at all? I wanted to do some
JS tests, but
On Thursday, May 5, 2011, 7:15:37, Thomas Fernandez wrote:
The attachment was in UUENCODE format, which TBv4 interprets
correctly.
So does v5 here.
--
Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/
[ The Bat! 5.0.10 on Windows 7 6.1.7601.Service Pack 1 ]
That which we call sin in others is
The attachment was in UUENCODE format, which TBv4 interprets
correctly.
So does v5 here.
So, is it a bug or not? The devs are chasing shadows if it also works
on their machines. I'd rather not distract them.
--
Best regards,
Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk
The
Hello Jernej,
On Thu, 5 May 2011 09:12:43 +0200 GMT (05/May/11, 14:12 PM +0700 GMT),
Jernej Simončič wrote:
The attachment was in UUENCODE format, which TBv4 interprets
correctly.
JS So does v5 here.
Interesting, others reported otherwise. But then, it has been hinted
that it depends on the
Could those who cannot see the attachment post the relevant headers,
please?
Here are the headers, UMAP protocol snippet and IMAP server's message
in Maildir. I'd like to see what was sent, please.
Return-Path:
-121-194.triad.res.rr.com with
local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00
for tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com; Mon, 02 May 2011 22:25:04 +0200
X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/
To: tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com
From: Gene Kearns gene.thebat.b...@tranquilrefuge.net
Subject: Re: 5.0.10
Hello Marck,
On Thu, 5 May 2011 22:31:57 +0100 GMT (06/May/11, 4:31 AM +0700 GMT),
Marck Pearlstone wrote:
TOG Could those who cannot see the attachment post the relevant headers,
TOG please?
MP MIME-Version: 1.0
MP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
MP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hello Tony,
On Thu, 5 May 2011 22:26:32 +0100 GMT (06/May/11, 4:26 AM +0700 GMT),
Tony Hoare wrote:
TH MIME-Version: 1.0
TH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
TH Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Over here it says in the main headers:
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/mixed;
Hello Thomas,
Are you using IMAP with a Courier server?
Yes, Courier IMAP (plus amavisd spam filer) It's possibly not the IMAP
server but upstream mail handling. I use
Postfix+amavisd+SpamAssassin+loads more
--
Best regards,
Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk
The
Dear Thomas,
@6-May-2011, 05:30 +0700 (05-May 23:30 here) Thomas Fernandez [TOG]
in mid:864192035.20110506053...@thomas-bkk.my-fqdn.de said to Marck:
... snip
MP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
MP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
TOG Same problem as with Tony, who I just replied to by
Hello Tony,
On Tue, 3 May 2011 18:00:58 +0100 GMT (04/May/11, 0:00 AM +0700 GMT),
Tony Hoare wrote:
I just tested Gene's mail using Windows Live Mail and I see the
image. As Tony said, some MUA are more forgiving, from what you say, TB!4.x
is more forgiving as well.
Is this a bug or a
Dear Tony,
@3-May-2011, 09:36 Tony Hoare [TH] in
mid:1711480403.20110503093...@parkinch.co.uk said to Simon:
... snip
TH I do see this a lot from various senders so it would be great if TB
TH could handle this ONE DAY. I understand there are a lot more important
TH issues for now.
TH Gene, was
Hello Simon,
Sorry for top-posting, but my email client is not very good at HTML... ;-)
These are a few of the headers I found in the source of the incoming message:
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=--1016115C1189A014
1016115C1189A014
Content-Type:
Hello Marck,
On Wed, 4 May 2011 21:38:49 +0100 GMT (05/May/11, 3:38 AM +0700 GMT),
Marck Pearlstone wrote:
TH Gene, was this actually produced buy TB?
MP Aye - there's the rub!
MP This message came in using Forte agent via the GMane feed for this
MP list. A double whammy by any definition. And
Hello NetVicious!
On Monday, May 2, 2011 at 11:52:37 PM you wrote:
Not confirmed here
try it with a collapsed thread.
In the past you could navigate from oldest to newest even in collapsed
state by simply deleting the message you just read from the top down.
Since 2 or 3 builds back deleting
Hello Simon,
Tuesday, May 3, 2011, 1:09:21 AM, you wrote:
begin 644 thebat_error_20110430.gif
snip
end
I see this as just the uuencoded data. However this is what I would
expect as there are no MIME headers in this mail, so any MUA should
just show it as plain text. I have tried on 3
Hello Dwight,
Did you see an image attachment on this message?
yes
while fiddling with common folder for Raymond, I switched machines, to
one still running 5.0.8. Here, the answer to your question would be
no.
But fixed in 5.0.10.1?
--
Best regards,
Tony
On Tuesday, May 3, 2011, 1:01:19 AM, Raymund Tump wrote:
Something weird is going on there.
his more recent posts didn't thread here either, although everyone
else's are. Can't see any thing different about the reference headers,
but he is changing the subject subject, on at least some.
On Tuesday, May 3, 2011, 3:43:34 AM, Tony Hoare wrote:
Did you see an image attachment on this message?
yes
while fiddling with common folder for Raymond, I switched machines, to
one still running 5.0.8. Here, the answer to your question would be
no.
But fixed in 5.0.10.1?
seems
Hello Raymund,
On Mon, 2 May 2011 20:21:56 +0200 GMT (03/May/11, 1:21 AM +0700 GMT),
Raymund Tump wrote:
I would judge that the thread itself starts here with a message not
from Kearns. mid:198979698.20110430224...@ritlabs.com
RT If you add '' and '' around the mid it is actually clickable
Hello Simon,
On Mon, 2 May 2011 21:09:21 -0300 GMT (03/May/11, 7:09 AM +0700 GMT),
Simon Martin wrote:
SM I see this as just the uuencoded data. However this is what I
SM would expect as there are no MIME headers in this mail, so any MUA
SM should just show it as plain text. I have tried on 3
Hello Simon,
I just tested Gene's mail using Windows Live Mail and I see the
image. As Tony said, some MUA are more forgiving, from what you say, TB!4.x
is more forgiving as well.
Is this a bug or a feature though?
I wouldn't want to distract the devs from the more pressing issues:
Hello Simon,
On Mon, 2 May 2011 21:09:21 -0300 GMT (03/May/11, 7:09 AM +0700 GMT),
Simon Martin wrote:
SM I see this as just the uuencoded data. However this is what I
SM would expect as there are no MIME headers in this mail, so any MUA
SM should just show it as plain text. I have tried on 3
lunes, 2 may 2011 at 23:52, it seems you wrote:
A thread is entirely deleted if the topmost message is highlighted and
the Delete key is pressed. This should only be allowed if
Control-Shift-Delete is pressed.
Not confirmed here
I regret my no confirmation. If the thread it's
NetVicious:
lunes, 2 may 2011 at 23:52, it seems you wrote:
A thread is entirely deleted if the topmost message is highlighted and
the Delete key is pressed. This should only be allowed if
Control-Shift-Delete is pressed.
Not confirmed here
I regret my no confirmation.
Hello Simon,
I am using Courier IMAP and have had no problems with images so far.
Did you receive the attached image from Gene Kearns at the start of
this thread rather than the block of uuencoded text?
--
Best regards,
Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk
The Bat!
Hello Simon,
Did you receive the attached image from Gene Kearns at the start of
this thread rather than the block of uuencoded text?
Not really sure. I don't actually keep the beta list mails so I
can't check. Want to resend it. I'll check and let you know.
I only have the broken version.
On Monday, May 2, 2011, 9:47:24 AM, Tony Hoare wrote:
I am using Courier IMAP and have had no problems with images so far.
Did you receive the attached image from Gene Kearns at the start of
this thread rather than the block of uuencoded text?
this is all fairly confusing, perhaps because
Hello Dwight,
Did you receive the attached image from Gene Kearns at the start of
this thread rather than the block of uuencoded text?
this is all fairly confusing, perhaps because Gene Kearns e-mails each
break the thread. Correction, I see two messages from him or her
snip
Yes it is
On Monday, May 2, 2011, 11:14:20 AM, Tony Hoare wrote:
The message in question is
mid:f6hpr69vvak2bckdo5cr9hekuef2um3...@4ax.com
Did you see an image attachment on this message?
yes
--
Dwight A. Corrin
316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax
dcorrin at fastmail.fm
photo galleries at
On Monday, May 2, 2011, 2:40:33 PM, Raymund Tump wrote:
So do they thread in a coomon folder for you or not? Which threading
type do you use?
copied the messages to a common folder and still threaded the same
there, as in the illustration. Threading by references.
--
Dwight A.
On Monday, May 2, 2011, 11:38:15 AM, Dwight Corrin wrote:
The message in question is
mid:f6hpr69vvak2bckdo5cr9hekuef2um3...@4ax.com
Did you see an image attachment on this message?
yes
while fiddling with common folder for Raymond, I switched machines, to
one still running 5.0.8.
sábado, 30 abr 2011 at 23:28, it seems you wrote:
A thread is entirely deleted if the topmost message is highlighted and
the Delete key is pressed. This should only be allowed if
Control-Shift-Delete is pressed.
Not confirmed here
--
/\/ Using The Bat!
Hello Maxim,
Saturday, April 30, 2011, 9:40:22 PM, among other things, you wrote:
MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_5-0-10.msi
MM What's new in The Bat! 5.0.10 (comparing to 5.0.8)?
No problem here with installation but I still have the following bugs here:
1.
Hello Roger,
Sunday, May 1, 2011, 10:19:08 AM, you wrote:
MM What's new in The Bat! 5.0.10 (comparing to 5.0.8)?
No problem here with installation but I still have the following bugs here:
Are these bugs new since 5.0.8? The main reason why we plan to release 5.0.10
is to fix some bugs of
Hello Marek,
We would like to update the release MSI files on the website, could you
please test the following files:
at least this one is new since 5.0.8:
- reply/Forward icons are not added to original messages, when are
replies/forwards created
Hello Maxim,
Sunday, May 1, 2011, 10:44:04 AM, among other things, you wrote:
MM Hello Roger,
MM Sunday, May 1, 2011, 10:19:08 AM, you wrote:
No problem here with installation but I still have the following bugs here:
MM Are these bugs new since 5.0.8?
None that I have found.
MM Please
Hello Gene,
On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 22:26:23 -0400 GMT (01/May/11, 9:26 AM +0700 GMT),
Gene Kearns wrote:
If this is confirmed by others, it's a show-stopper.
--
Cheers,
Thomas.
http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/
Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.44
under Windows XP 5.1
Hello Costas,
On Sun, 1 May 2011 00:28:34 +0300 GMT (01/May/11, 4:28 AM +0700 GMT),
Costas Papadopoulos wrote:
What's new in The Bat! 5.0.10 (comparing to 5.0.8)?
[-] (#0008611) Thread operations were ignoring date grouping
CP A thread is entirely deleted if the topmost message is
Hello Maxim,
On Sun, 1 May 2011 00:29:48 +0300 GMT (01/May/11, 4:29 AM +0700 GMT),
Maxim Masiutin wrote:
MM Could you please test wether 5.0.10 have new bugs comparing to
MM 5.0.8? If no, we will release it and will be working on the bugs
MM that you have mentioned.
Please compare it to v4 and
Hello Gene,
Sunday, May 1, 2011, 3:26:23 AM, you wrote:
begin 644 thebat_error_20110430.gif
M1TE.#EAT@'`'``P`T@'`*?Z^OKP[_#K\_-H8V=B7F%Y=7C7U]=`
M-SVYMK@U,#/IZG^_K6.VO[@W^!P:FZ(A8BHI:=R;7$```#Q69EIG`P,`
MWZPK*Z1C9?8AGJ!N`4)+1$I$/$(?(.@H*102$Z@G)W^VHZQKK1BXP4
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_5-0-10.msi
The old filter killers are still there. TB disconnects after this.
Gloom.
Date: 01 May 2011 14:21:47
OS: Windows XP Service Pack 3 build 2600
PhysMemFreeTotal: 683/2047 MB
VirtMemFreeTotal:
is probably mangling the
message for you. Check the source - the message headers should look
similar to this:
,-
|snip
| To: tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com
| From: Gene Kearns gene.thebat.b...@tranquilrefuge.net
| Subject: Re: 5.0.10 MSI (release?) - thebat_error_20110430.gif (1/1)
| Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 22
Hello Tony,
On Sun, 1 May 2011 14:25:50 +0100 GMT (01/May/11, 20:25 PM +0700 GMT),
Tony Hoare wrote:
TH Hello Gene,
TH Sunday, May 1, 2011, 3:26:23 AM, you wrote:
begin 644 thebat_error_20110430.gif
M1TE.#EAT@'`'``P`T@'`*?Z^OKP[_#K\_-H8V=B7F%Y=7C7U]=`
[...]
TH Can anyone read this?
Hello Jernej,
| Sender: tbbeta-boun...@thebat.dutaint.com
| Errors-To: tbbeta-boun...@thebat.dutaint.com
| X-Text-Classification: en
| X-POPFile-Link: http://127.0.0.1:8080/jump_to_message?view=45901
|
| 6E7B1F328D5BDA4
| Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
|
Hello Thomas,
Sunday, May 1, 2011, 2:37:06 PM, you wrote:
Hello Tony,
On Sun, 1 May 2011 14:25:50 +0100 GMT (01/May/11, 20:25 PM +0700 GMT),
Tony Hoare wrote:
TH Hello Gene,
TH Sunday, May 1, 2011, 3:26:23 AM, you wrote:
begin 644 thebat_error_20110430.gif
Hello all,
Saturday, April 30, 2011, Maxim Masiutin wrote:
We would like to update the release MSI files on the website, could you
please test the following files:
- what about TMailMessage released before its use. error, is it fixed?
- reply/Forward icons are not added to original
Hello Marek,
Saturday, April 30, 2011, 3:26:51 PM, you wrote:
We would like to update the release MSI files on the website, could you
please test the following files:
- what about TMailMessage released before its use. error, is it fixed?
- reply/Forward icons are not added to original
We would like to update the release MSI files on the website, could you
please test the following files:
What's new in The Bat! 5.0.10 (comparing to 5.0.8)?
[-] (#0008204) Image smileys were not working when The Bat! was
started from a desktop shortcut with no Start in folder defined
Hello Marek,
Could you please test wether 5.0.10 have new bugs comparing to 5.0.8? If no,
we will release it and will be working on the bugs that you have mentioned.
--
Best regards,
Maximmailto:m...@ritlabs.com
Hello Maxim,
Saturday, April 30, 2011, 10:40:22 PM, you wrote (possibly edited):
What's new in The Bat! 5.0.10 (comparing to 5.0.8)?
[-] (#0008611) Thread operations were ignoring date grouping
A thread is entirely deleted if the topmost message is highlighted and
the Delete key is
Hello Maxim,
Sunday, May 1, 2011, 3:40:22 AM, you wrote:
We would like to update the release MSI files on the website, could you
please test the following files:
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_5-0-10.msi
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