Re: [5.1] Read Filters don't trigger
Hello Roger, In version 5 the read filters are only triggered by the smart 'Space bar' action to move to another message. Marking as 'Read' by any other action has no effect. I have protested to Stefan Tanurkov about this change, but to no avail. M Oh no! :-( M After years of using the Space bar (on the Message List) instead of M Ctrl+M to mark a message as read and properly triggering Read filters I M now have to change my whole set up. I don't like this because, among M other things, many times the messages I am reading are short enough so M that, to read them, I don't even have to change focus to the message M pane and use the smart Space bar to scroll them. Just read them and, M when done, hit Space to mark it as read. Why they made the change I don't know, I suspect it may just have been an accidental oversight which they cannot be bothered to now fix up! I have been using the 'Smart space' these past few days, which I had never used before, and I must say that it seems to work quite well. I don't have to change the focus to the message pane as I thought I would have to do, 'Smart space' does it if needed. The only small (very small) drawback is that, if don't want to actually read a long message I still have to scroll through it. But, as I say, that is a very minor inconvenience. M Anyway, I will have to do some more testing but I have returned the M 'Mark message as read' to default Ctrl+M and tried using the 'Smart M Space' and my Read filters still don't trigger. Also, if the message M I'm reading is the last one in the Message List, smart Space doesn't M move to any other message. Would the Read filters trigger in this M case? The smart space has worked on the last unread message since early this month, in response to my Bugtraq sent in January! I have seen it work on last message many (most) times. Read filters are triggered and, as per my configuration, I am asked if I want to move to the next folder with unread messages. But I have seen it not do anything on last message a few times, but I don't have a patter yet. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v5.1.0.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current beta is 5.1.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [5.1] Read Filters don't trigger
Hello Miguel, Sunday, April 22, 2012, 7:06:37 PM, among other things, you wrote: M I have been using the 'Smart space' these past few days, which I had M never used before, and I must say that it seems to work quite well. I M don't have to change the focus to the message pane as I thought I would M have to do, 'Smart space' does it if needed. The only small (very small) M drawback is that, if don't want to actually read a long message I still M have to scroll through it. But, as I say, that is a very minor M inconvenience. I have now found that the problem of not paging down long messages only occurs if you have the 'Preference' setting 'Use system HTML viewer', if you set it to 'Use The Bat HTML viewer' paging down still works with 'Space bar'. -- Best regards, Roger :flag-SouthAfrica: The Bat! v5.1.0.4 POP3, on Windows 7, version 6 1, build 7601 and Service Pack 1 Current beta is 5.1.0.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [5.1] Read Filters don't trigger
Hello Roger, M Can someone confirm? Is it perhaps a known issue? In version 5 the read filters are only triggered by the smart 'Space bar' action to move to another message. Marking as 'Read' by any other action has no effect. I have protested to Stefan Tanurkov about this change, but to no avail. Oh no! :-( After years of using the Space bar (on the Message List) instead of Ctrl+M to mark a message as read and properly triggering Read filters I now have to change my whole set up. I don't like this because, among other things, many times the messages I am reading are short enough so that, to read them, I don't even have to change focus to the message pane and use the smart Space bar to scroll them. Just read them and, when done, hit Space to mark it as read. Anyway, I will have to do some more testing but I have returned the 'Mark message as read' to default Ctrl+M and tried using the 'Smart Space' and my Read filters still don't trigger. Also, if the message I'm reading is the last one in the Message List, smart Space doesn't move to any other message. Would the Read filters trigger in this case? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v5.1.0.1 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current beta is 5.1.0.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [5.1] Read Filters don't trigger
Hello Miguel, Monday, April 16, 2012, 8:32:16 AM, among other things, you wrote: M Hello Roger, M M Can someone confirm? Is it perhaps a known issue? In version 5 the read filters are only triggered by the smart 'Space bar' action to move to another message. Marking as 'Read' by any other action has no effect. I have protested to Stefan Tanurkov about this change, but to no avail. M Oh no! :-( M After years of using the Space bar (on the Message List) instead of M Ctrl+M to mark a message as read and properly triggering Read filters I M now have to change my whole set up. I don't like this because, among M other things, many times the messages I am reading are short enough so M that, to read them, I don't even have to change focus to the message M pane and use the smart Space bar to scroll them. Just read them and, M when done, hit Space to mark it as read. Why they made the change I don't know, I suspect it may just have been an accidental oversight which they cannot be bothered to now fix up! M Anyway, I will have to do some more testing but I have returned the M 'Mark message as read' to default Ctrl+M and tried using the 'Smart M Space' and my Read filters still don't trigger. Also, if the message I'm M reading is the last one in the Message List, smart Space doesn't move to M any other message. Would the Read filters trigger in this case? The smart space has worked on the last unread message since early this month, in response to my Bugtraq sent in January! -- Best regards, Roger :flag-SouthAfrica: The Bat! v5.1.0.1 (BETA) POP3, on Windows 7, version 6 1, build 7601 and Service Pack 1 Current beta is 5.1.0.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [5.1] Read Filters don't trigger
Hello Roger, Anyway, I will have to do some more testing but I have returned the M 'Mark message as read' to default Ctrl+M and tried using the 'Smart M Space' and my Read filters still don't trigger. Also, if the message I'm M reading is the last one in the Message List, smart Space doesn't move to M any other message. Would the Read filters trigger in this case? The smart space has worked on the last unread message since early this month, in response to my Bugtraq sent in January! Thanks for the info. As I say, I'll have to do some more testing -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v5.1.0.1 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current beta is 5.1.0.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [5.1] Read Filters don't trigger
Hello Roger, The smart space has worked on the last unread message since early this month, in response to my Bugtraq sent in January! It seems to be dependant on the folder View Mode. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v5.1.0.1 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current beta is 5.1.0.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [5.1] Read Filters don't trigger
Hello Miguel, Monday, April 16, 2012, 9:35:25 AM, among other things, you wrote: M Hello Roger, M The smart space has worked on the last unread message since early this month, in response to my Bugtraq sent in January! M It seems to be dependant on the folder View Mode. In what way? -- Best regards, Roger :flag-SouthAfrica: The Bat! v5.1.0.1 (BETA) POP3, on Windows 7, version 6 1, build 7601 and Service Pack 1 Current beta is 5.1.0.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [5.1] Read Filters don't trigger
Hello Roger, The smart space has worked on the last unread message since early this month, in response to my Bugtraq sent in January! M It seems to be dependant on the folder View Mode. In what way? Well, at first sight it seemed that it would not work if the view mode was Generic or any other unthreaded view mode, and it would work if the view was threaded by reference. But after changing view mode a number of times to confirm this, I have seen Smart space failing on the last message using a threaded view mode. However, I have yyet to see it work with Generic or any unthreaded view mode. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v5.1.0.1 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current beta is 5.1.0.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [5.1] Read Filters don't trigger
Hello MAU, When I mark a message as read, ii is marked as read but not moved to any folder. However, doing a manual re-filter does move the messages fine. After trying different ways and shorcuts to mark a message as read, I can confirm that, at least here, Read filters are never triggered. They only work with a manual re-filter. I will open a BT report as soon as BT is up and running again. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v5.1.0.1 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current beta is 5.1.0.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [5.1] Read Filters don't trigger
Hello Miguel, Sunday, April 15, 2012, 7:51:42 PM, among other things, you wrote: M Hello all, M Since a long time ago I use a number of Read Filters based on Address M Book Groups, so that when in my Inbox - Known I mark a message as read, M the message is automatically sorted to the appropriate folder. M As you may have read on another post this morning I upgraded from M v4.2.44 to v5.1 and, in 5.1, the Read Filters seem to not be triggered. M When I mark a message as read, is is marked as read but not moved to any M folder. However, doing a manual re-filter does move the messages fine. M Can someone confirm? Is it perhaps a known issue? In version 5 the read filters are only triggered by the smart 'Space bar' action to move to another message. Marking as 'Read' by any other action has no effect. I have protested to Stefan Tanurkov about this change, but to no avail. -- Best regards, Roger Flying with The Bat!, version 5.1.0.1 (BETA), with antispam , on Windows 7, version 6 1, build 7601 and Service Pack 1 Current beta is 5.1.0.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
