Re: One a day e-list

2003-01-19 Thread M. Evans
> I'm quite happy with the current frequency of the digests. I am not. > Once a day > would be fine if I simply wanted to lurk, but responding to anything > after the messages have been accumulating for 24 hours Then you should get all messages real-time. > would just be > unmanageable. What

One a day e-list

2003-01-18 Thread M. Evans
Why does the Bat elist send out so many digests every day. I'd really prefer just one per day. That is how all digests normally work. Regards. Mark Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo

Re: Free anti-trojan/spyware/adware/virus

2003-01-14 Thread M. Evans
In the free (for personal use) anti-trojan category, Backwork: http://www.framework.nl/backwork/eng/index.html M. Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Free anti-trojan/spyware/adware/virus

2003-01-12 Thread M. Evans
Granville, It's an easy program to use and the interface is clean. File/Check for Problems scans your PC, and produces a list of problems. You can check which ones you want fixed. Then, lower right, "Fix Selected Problems." That's it. Spybot is a slightly different program than anti-virus or anti

Re: Free anti-trojan/spyware/adware/virus

2003-01-11 Thread M. Evans
Clive, http://spybot.eon.net.au/ > What is your basis for saying that this piece of software is "very > good"? The over 4,000 database entries and almost daily updates. The free price, lovely interface, online updates, and extra features (file shredding, track erasing). Plus, recommendations fro

Re: AVG's 'Move to Virus Vault' & Parenting

2003-01-11 Thread M. Evans
Mike, > As far as AVG goes, let's just say I worked for a gov't dept ... > The only ones to come through with a clean bill > of health (i.e. for the large majority of the tests they had a 100% > record) were Symantec and Sophos. Are they free for personal use, or offer a Bat plugin? No program is

Free anti-trojan/spyware/adware/virus

2003-01-10 Thread M. Evans
A very good *free* anti-trojan/spyware/adware/virus tool is http://spybot.eon.net.au/ Has many languages, frequent database updates, online update system, rollback support to un-do system changes, many industry awards. (Be careful with the registry features.) A similar free program, less capable,

Re: AVG's 'Move to Virus Vault' & Parenting

2003-01-09 Thread M. Evans
Oliver, This failure to detect the trojan horse should be reported to Grisoft. I am cc'ing them this message. You should probably file a tech support incident. There was a 9 Jan update for AVG, don't know if that would have caught it. Regards. Mark -- O

Re: XML Address Book Format

2003-01-03 Thread M. Evans
> Means: TB! and PhoneDeck _have to_ use the very same > "DTD" or "Schema" In the computer industry this phenomena is recognized and given a name, "standards," which are generally recognized as Good Things. Some industry groups even set up consortia to promote them. Yes, the world needs an Addr

Re: XML Address Book Format

2003-01-02 Thread M. Evans
Well, suppose I have two XML files, one using and the other using . An XSL script can convert between them. Or I can convert the data manually using any text editor. Fifteen years from now, when the original programs are long dead, I will still have my address data in a format I can read and use.

Re: XML Address Book Format

2003-01-02 Thread M. Evans
Spike, That strikes me as pretty preposterous. XML files are ASCII files and it would be awfully hard for a virus to hide in one. Regards. Mark Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.htm

Re: PGP signature removal?

2003-01-01 Thread M. Evans
Allie Martin, > We wonder why other clients never incorporate some of the no brainer > features of TB!. I wonder the same about this feature of PMMail. Exactly right. Good P G P support is one reason I bought Bat. Among other things, I use digital signatures to verify consulting contracts with c

XML Address Book Format

2002-12-31 Thread M. Evans
A common problem with address books is that people want to enter data in one program only, and then use it in many other programs, on other computers, and on their Palm pilots. Bat is pretty good about address import/export, even supporting VCARD. I just downloaded PhoneDeck and was thinking about

Re: Model/view design for text editor

2002-12-29 Thread M. Evans
> Why, thanks! (And it's been 1.5.9 since yesterday ;) For those of us who already have 1.5.8 installed, do we have to uninstall and reinstall to get 1.5.9, or can we just install over top of 1.5.8? Mark Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" i

Re: Model/view design for text editor

2002-12-28 Thread M. Evans
The main point everyone should take away is the idea of model/view supporting various behaviors in the editor. WIthout model/view distinctions, there can only be one (fixed) behavior. It may also be worth pointing out to Bat developers that this e-list should be regarded as a highly biased sample

Re: Model/view design for text editor

2002-12-27 Thread M. Evans
> I had made queries in the past about the editor and was told that it > would be very difficult to make the editor work in a more standard > fashion and yet maintain its current behaviour as an option. Model/view would have made it easier to support the current behavior in the first place. Model

Re: Model/view design for text editor

2002-12-27 Thread M. Evans
Moderator, it is good to promote civility, but you are disciplining the wrong person. This quote does in fact exemplify camp #2: > You don't like the editor *and* are not comfortable with the reasons > others give why they like it *and* don't want the advice of how you > can achieve what you want,

Re: Model/view design for text editor

2002-12-26 Thread M. Evans
UltraEdit gives me all the capabilities that have been touted as unique to Bat in response to my post. If I want hard CRLFs, I can put them anywhere. If I want to put the cursor anywhere, I can do that. If I want the view to reflect the current model data perfectly, I just turn off word wrap! I

Model/view design for text editor

2002-12-26 Thread M. Evans
The text editor needs help. Its major problem is its use of hard carriage returns (CRLF) during composition. Those should be avoided until necessary, at send time. Many text editors have a clean "model/view" design, instead of Bat's confused "view is the model" design. With real text editors, the

Re: New binary data encoding scheme please add to Bat

2002-12-23 Thread M. Evans
Mike, Lighten up. I just want a mail client that supports all prevalent encodings. And there are such things as mail-to-news gateways. It doesn't matter to me what are the technical merits. What matters is that people use this format, so I want my mail client to support it. M. --

New binary data encoding scheme please add to Bat

2002-12-23 Thread M. Evans
http://www.yenc32.com/ The yEnc format itself is a nice alternative to UUencode and Base64. yEncoded messages are up to 40% smaller than UUencoded/Base64 equivalents, and include built-in error checking and multipart file support. Current version

Format block as quoted

2002-12-19 Thread M. Evans
Feature suggestion, Utilities > Format Block > Quoted Utilities > Format Block > Unquoted Utilities > Format Block > All unquoted The last one removes all quotation devices no matter how deeply nested. The first two simply prepend "> " or whatever to each line. You'll also notice a bug with Bat

Re: Replies kept in same folder as received

2002-12-16 Thread M. Evans
Another problem: When I decipher a Gnu PG message that I have already sent to someone, and which is stored in some subfolder, Bat puts the deciphered clear text in the Inbox. The clear text output from Gnu PG belongs in the same folder as the original message. I should not need a filter for that

Filters for both in and out boxes

2002-12-15 Thread M. Evans
Maybe others have mentioned this idea: let the same filter apply to both Inbox and Outbox so that I don't have to keep defining the same filter twice, once for recipient and once for sender. Ideally, filters should not be associated with Inbox, Outbox, Sent Mail, or any other default folder. Ins

Re: Replies kept in same folder as received

2002-12-15 Thread M. Evans
Thanks everyone. Interesting to learn that Bat doesn't support this feature. I wish that Bat would support mail filters that apply to both incoming and outgoing mail, that would probably do it. The 'trick' of setting up multiple 'fake' accounts is interesting but just not feasible or sensible fo

Replies kept in same folder as received

2002-12-14 Thread M. Evans
TBUDL, 1. This question may be obvious, but I've used Bat! for a long time, and can't remember (or find out) how to do it. After incoming mail is filtered it is moved. Let's say from Inbox to MyTopicFolder. Now I reply to a message in MyTopicFolder. The reply should be stored in MyTopicFolder,