am Montag, 15. September 2008 um 22:23 schrieb Jack S. LaRosa:
I need to send credit card info to a vendor in payment for a part yet
to be shipped. Is there an easy way to encrypt the info so it can't be
read if it's intercepted in transit and yet *can* be read by the
recipient? Or am I
On Friday, September 19, 2008, 16:50:43, Jens Franik wrote:
Licence: Shareware
You should always be wary of security programs that don't use open
encryption standards (this doesn't just mean that the program uses eg.
AES algorithm for encryption, but that you can use another open-source
program
am Freitag, 19. September 2008 um 18:43 schrieb Jernej Simončič:
On Friday, September 19, 2008, 16:50:43, Jens Franik wrote:
Licence: Shareware
You should always be wary of security programs that don't use open
encryption standards
You are right!
--
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Jens Franik
Wednesday, September 17, 2008, 4:15:40 PM, you wrote:
Hi
On Wednesday 17 September 2008 at 8:13:23 PM, in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Dan Lester wrote:
When they write the check they cross out the phone number on it
Phone number? On a cheque?
Most US banks put it on by default. In the past,
Hi
On Thursday 18 September 2008 at 1:46:19 PM, in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Dan Lester wrote:
Phone number? On a cheque?
Most US banks put it on by default.
Fair enough. We don't get that in the UK. My phone number is private
and not the bank's or the payee's business unless I decide
My last msg in this thread, comments below as required.
Thursday, September 18, 2008, 7:36:43 AM, you wrote:
Most US banks put it on by default.
Fair enough. We don't get that in the UK. My phone number is private
and not the bank's or the payee's business unless I decide otherwise.
Of
Hello Jernej,
On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 22:19:08 +0200 GMT (18/09/2008, 03:19 +0700 GMT),
Jernej Simončič wrote:
True. But the eavesdropper needs to have physical access to the
appropriate cable at least once, while email can be hacked remotely.
JS Which is much easier to get than you imagine -
On Thursday, September 18, 2008, 12:37:05 PM, you wrote:
Yes, anything is possible for a dedicated criminal or legal agency. My
point was the physical access, which means somebody has to be there.
With hacking on the internet, the criminal can be anywhere in the
world.
Sure, but is it worth
Hello Gene,
On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 16:31:07 -0400 GMT (19/09/2008, 03:31 +0700 GMT),
Gene Brown wrote:
Yes, anything is possible for a dedicated criminal or legal agency. My
point was the physical access, which means somebody has to be there.
With hacking on the internet, the criminal can be
On Thursday, September 18, 2008, 8:45:11 PM, you wrote:
Stealing credit card information is a million-dollar business.
However, even in that business they try to be efficient. It is much
more efficient to steal this information while being online than
having to physically go to tap every fax
Monday, September 15, 2008, 6:53:21 PM, you wrote:
Is the internet really any riskier than how I use the card every
day?
Actually the internet is much safer. As you point out, you give the
card to all sorts of people. And then there are the people you give
it to on the phone...and on and on.
On Wednesday, September 17, 2008, 17:05:59, Dan Lester wrote:
As a side note, but an important ond, DO NOT PUT YOUR MAIL IN A BOX IN
FRONT OF YOUR HOUSE for the letter carrier to pick up. Your mail can
be taken by a crook and your identity and/or money stolen.
You mean your own postbox or
Hello Jernej,
On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 21:53:14 +0200 GMT (17/09/2008, 02:53 +0700 GMT),
Jernej Simončič wrote:
The easiest way, if you have a fax machine, is to fax him the
information. That's a straight phone-line connection, not networked, so
the probability of anyone being able to tap into it
Hello MFPA,
On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 19:41:51 +0100 GMT (17/09/2008, 01:41 +0700 GMT),
MFPA wrote:
Is the internet really any riskier than how I use the card every
day?
M Unlikely to be riskier than allowing people to wander off with it.
M Several years since I saw that - these days they usually
Hi
On Wednesday 17 September 2008 at 5:22:25 PM, in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Thomas Fernandez
wrote:
No such EPOS terminals exist over here. The credit card still
disappears with the waiter for a couple of minutes.
Even in the old days of the machine you put the card on, placed a
form over the
Wednesday, September 17, 2008, 9:32:52 AM, you wrote:
As a side note, but an important ond, DO NOT PUT YOUR MAIL IN A BOX IN
FRONT OF YOUR HOUSE for the letter carrier to pick up. Your mail can
be taken by a crook and your identity and/or money stolen.
You mean your own postbox or ...?
On Wednesday, September 17, 2008, 18:15:58, Thomas Fernandez wrote:
True. But the eavesdropper needs to have physical access to the
appropriate cable at least once, while email can be hacked remotely.
Which is much easier to get than you imagine - most buildings have the
phone exchange
On Wednesday, September 17, 2008, 21:13:23, Dan Lester wrote:
Three years. My wife handles the money, and she now pays almost
everything electronically, except for a couple that won't handle that.
Those get dropped at the post office.
Interesting. Checks vanished practically overnight here
Wednesday, September 17, 2008, 2:30:02 PM, you wrote:
On Wednesday, September 17, 2008, 21:13:23, Dan Lester wrote:
Three years. My wife handles the money, and she now pays almost
everything electronically, except for a couple that won't handle that.
Those get dropped at the post office.
Hi
On Wednesday 17 September 2008 at 10:25:14 PM, in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Ian A. White wrote:
The reason no one ever blames a phishing scam for the loss of their
secure data is because banks and other financial institutions will not
cover you if you volunteer the information.
And just
Hi
On Wednesday 17 September 2008 at 8:13:23 PM, in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Dan Lester wrote:
When they write the check they cross out the phone number on it
Phone number? On a cheque?
--
Best regards,
MFPA
Don't talk unless you can improve on the silence
Using
Hi
On Wednesday 17 September 2008 at 9:30:02 PM, in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Jernej Simoncic wrote:
Interesting. Checks vanished practically overnight here when banks
stopped giving guarantee on them about 15 years ago, and everything
moved to electronic transactions.
Lots of shops etc here
Hello Jack,
This is what you said on Mon, 15 Sep 2008 15:23:31 -0500 your time:
Is there an easy way to encrypt the info so it can't be read if it's
intercepted in transit and yet *can* be read by the recipient?
Mostly, any secure system would require that the receiving part had a
Hello Jack,
On Monday, September 15, 2008, you wrote:
JSL I need to send credit card info to a vendor in payment for a part yet
JSL to be shipped. Is there an easy way to encrypt the info so it can't be
JSL read if it's intercepted in transit and yet *can* be read by the
JSL recipient? Or am I
On Monday, September 15, 2008, 22:23:31, Jack S. LaRosa wrote:
I need to send credit card info to a vendor in payment for a part yet
to be shipped. Is there an easy way to encrypt the info so it can't be
read if it's intercepted in transit and yet *can* be read by the
recipient? Or am I
On Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 13:19:26, Gunivortus Goos wrote:
Note that listening in on phone conversations (and fax communications)
is much easier than intercepting even unencrypted communication over
the internet.
Except for Skype's IP-phonecalls, I experienced, they're obviously
Hi Jernej Simončič,
Note that listening in on phone conversations (and fax communications)
is much easier than intercepting even unencrypted communication over
the internet.
Except for Skype's IP-phonecalls, I experienced, they're obviously encrypted.
And in a strange turn of
think the average vendor will
go through the procedures of a one-time encryption. If they don't have
a secure website and thus aren't security-conscious, submit your CC
details by phone and worry about how they store the information.
I'm now off to book a rental car for my upcoming trip to Europe
Hello Privateofcourse,
Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 5:21:19 AM, you wrote:
P Hello Jack,
P This is what you said on Mon, 15 Sep 2008 15:23:31 -0500 your time:
Is there an easy way to encrypt the info so it can't be read if it's
intercepted in transit and yet *can* be read by the recipient?
Hello Nick,
Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 6:00:49 AM, you wrote:
ND Hello Jack,
ND On Monday, September 15, 2008, you wrote:
JSL I need to send credit card info to a vendor in payment for a part yet
JSL to be shipped. Is there an easy way to encrypt the info so it can't be
JSL read if it's
Hello Gene,
Monday, September 15, 2008, 7:53:21 PM, you wrote:
GB On Monday, September 15, 2008, 4:23:31 PM, you wrote:
Or am I worrying about nothing?
GB Maybe I've naive, but I've never had a problem with doing this. If
GB you send your credit card number to the vendor, what happens to it
Hello, Jack--
On Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 1:37:33 PM, you wrote:
GB Is the internet really any riskier than how I use the card every
GB day?
It's called Web Paranoia and it's probably completely un-justified.
You're right in everything you say. Ultimately, we decided to just
conduct the
Hi
On Tuesday 16 September 2008 at 12:19:26 PM, in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Gunivortus Goos wrote:
And in a strange turn of events, the cat was electrocuted.
Poor cat. What happened?
--
Best regards,
MFPA
Nothing a Pan-Galactic Gargle Blaster won't cure!
Hi
On Tuesday 16 September 2008 at 1:53:21 AM, in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Gene Brown wrote:
On Monday, September 15, 2008, 4:23:31 PM, you wrote:
When I use a credit card in a restaurant, I give it to the waiter
and he disappears for several minutes.
Is the internet really any
Hi
On Tuesday 16 September 2008 at 12:22:24 AM, in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Jim Kyle wrote:
The easiest way, if you have a fax machine, is to fax him the
information. That's a straight phone-line connection, not networked, so
the probability of anyone being able to tap into it is very small.
On Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 1:22:24, Jim Kyle wrote:
The easiest way, if you have a fax machine, is to fax him the
information. That's a straight phone-line connection, not networked, so
the probability of anyone being able to tap into it is very small.
It's actually quite easy to
Fellow list members,
I need to send credit card info to a vendor in payment for a part yet
to be shipped. Is there an easy way to encrypt the info so it can't be
read if it's intercepted in transit and yet *can* be read by the
recipient? Or am I worrying about nothing?
--
TIA,
Jack LaRosa
On Monday, September 15, 2008, at 3:23:31 PM, Jack S. LaRosa wrote:
I need to send credit card info to a vendor in payment for a part yet
to be shipped. Is there an easy way to encrypt the info so it can't be
read if it's intercepted in transit and yet *can* be read by the
recipient? Or am I
Hi Jack,
On Monday, September 15, 2008 at 4:23:31 PM you wrote:
JSL Fellow list members,
JSL I need to send credit card info to a vendor in payment for a part yet
JSL to be shipped. Is there an easy way to encrypt the info so it can't be
JSL read if it's intercepted in transit and yet *can* be
On Monday, September 15, 2008, 4:23:31 PM, you wrote:
Or am I worrying about nothing?
Maybe I've naive, but I've never had a problem with doing this. If
you send your credit card number to the vendor, what happens to it
after that? How does the vendor secure it?
When I use a credit card in a
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