Re: Yahoo slow?

2001-12-10 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello Thomas,

On 10 Dec 2001 at 05:12:17 you wrote (at least in part):

TF Note the past tense.

This was intentionally, as meanwhile software do not need this anymore
for there being other ways of mail storing that avoid this.
Nevertheless there're still some older systems, and upgrading is a
very money and time expensive thing.

TF Is it so expensive, though?

In fact it is. You can't take normal PC hardware and build up your
server. OK, surely, you can. But that's not what GMX needs for a
reliable mail server. You'll need some HA [1] components, build up
with redundancies and a lot of server optimized other components. E.g.
an Intel Xeon processor instead of your normal P-III as it offers some
features that are important for a fast service (like bigger L1-Cache,
faster connected to the CPU itself, etc ...). A hardware RAID,
reliable and stable fast NIC's, a lot of RAM, etc... This all in pure
hardware does cost more than about 5000-1000 US$. Add the software
side, and don't calculate only initial cost for buying, but also
installation time, administration, configuration to fit in the
existing model and you're at 20-30k US$ for a _real_ server.

TF GMX does add the character into mails received via my pro-account. :-(

That's a reason to write to them. It may be critical for you to verify
signatures and they make this quite impossible with this insert. So
_you_ as a aping customer are in a situation to give them hard facts
why this have to be changed. What shall a non-paying user tell them? I
don't like it? It destroys PGP-signatures and they are important to
me? For critical issues I don't rely on a cost-free service, so this
is not an argument. But if _you_ ask them to fulfill the service they
prove, and that includes 'not alteration of e-mails but receiving and
delivering to you as they came in' you can have success (If they care
about not loosing a paying customer *g*) :-)))

[1] High Availability
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Re: Yahoo slow?

2001-12-10 Thread Dierk Haasis

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Hello Thomas!

On 10 Dec 2001 at 05:12:17 you wrote:

 Note the past tense.

Could have been something to do with Peter not as conversant in
English than you? Phew, nice construction, ain't it.

Seriously, there are still people out there using software needing
this. So, the past tense doesn't really come into the equation. It
is more a question of priorities in supporting it or not, a decision a
company like GMX might not be making, as the y may nit realize there
is something to decide.

 Is it so expensive, though?

Regardless of how great the actual costs are: Yes. Everything that
costs something is in company terms expensive - as long as there is
a cheaper alternative. The old mail servers of GMX are still good and
running, so it would be expensive to change them.

Related to that are two other things, the manpower needed and the
inconveniences for GMX customers. Remember 12 months ago when the had
a major overhaul of there hardware structure. Lots of people (incl.
me) had problems connecting and getting mail for some weeks. During
this period many customers became ex-customers recommending *not* to
use GMX. One of my brothers was one of them.

 GMX does add the character into mails received via my pro-account. :-(

Hey, you are a paying customer ... But I concur with Peter's statement
- - and find it really annoying that he is in the wrong - that PRO
accounts should use the newer servers.

 Yhey do change the contents of my mail. IMHO it is not acceptable in
 any case (free or not).

You are right if there wasn't a technical reason for it. Sadly there
was (and may still be). So historically some severs still alter the
message, which I too find wrong.

Much more I don't like the way GMX deals with customer'S requests not
just on this topic. They do have a good support but don't feel
inclined to really answer mails on more general problems like the one
discussed here.



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Eudora conversion glitch

2001-12-10 Thread Stuart Burbridge

Hi all,
I'm planning to convert after years using Eudora.  I'm fed up with its 
regular attempts to call home and report what its been doing.

I have hit a bit of a problem with converting my mail boxes though.
The conversion wizard doesn't want to play at all.  Leaving me with just 
the convert from UNIX option.
This does work except for one problem: - The creation dates of my outgoing 
messages gets changed.  In the Folder view it becomes the date of 
conversion and in the message headers it becomes 30th December 1899.  I do 
assure you I'm really not that old. :-)

Anyone else hit this problem and found a way round it?
I'm running Win2K SP2.
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Re[2]: How to indent a whole block of text?

2001-12-10 Thread Joseph N.

Marco,

I'm obviously missing something here  I couldn't find the
appropriate section in the FAQ, and try as I might, the process you
suggest doesn't work for me.  I can move the block by switching to
column and just inserting some empty area, but I'd like to know what
you had in mind.

If it's possible to be more detailed (I admit it seems already like
it's pretty detailed...), can you supply a remedial version?  :-)

JN


 Sunday, December 09, 2001, 4:51:15 PM, you wrote:

 Hello Rick, on 08/12/2001 at 16.38 you wrote:


RR indented. However, I still don't see how to take a whole block of text
RR that isn't indented and indent it some. Maybe it's not possible?

 Select the block, then Ctrl-K I.
 Taken from http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/tbfaq.html

 Ciao,
   Marco.


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Using the %IF macro

2001-12-10 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hello TBUDListers.

   I'm having difficulty constructing a macro using %IF. The
   macro is to be used @ the group level.

   I group 3 lists in one folder as they involve variations
   on the same subject. The intent was to identify which
   group I was addressing  tailoring the Greeting to that
   group. What am I doing wrong?

,- [Macro]
| Hello
| %IF:%TO='[EMAIL PROTECTED]'BouvTrainers.:%-
| %IF:%TO='[EMAIL PROTECTED]'NAWBA Listers.:%-
| :BouvListers.
'-

,- [Results]
| Hello
| BouvTrainers.:NAWBA Listers.::BouvListers.
'-
   
  Thanks.

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Re: How to indent a whole block of text?

2001-12-10 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello Joseph,

On 10 Dec 2001 at 16:42:16 you wrote (at least in part):

JN If it's possible to be more detailed (I admit it seems already like
JN it's pretty detailed...), can you supply a remedial version?  :-)

First you can try to avoid TopFirst quoting. In other words: it would
be nice if your answer is _below_ the text / questions / statements
you are referring to.

Second:
1.) Select a block in 'Stream mode'.
2.) Press Ctrl and hold it.
3.) Press additionally 'K' one time and release it
4.) release Ctrl.
5.) Press 'I'.
6.) See the block getting indented.

Repeat 2-5 for more indentation.
Substitute 'I' with 'U' and see the reverse effect: unindentation.
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Re: Yahoo slow?

2001-12-10 Thread Silviu Cojocaru

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9  Dec 2001 at 18:02:39 ,
Nick Andriash wrote the following
on the Yahoo slow? thread:

 Not to mention that GMX prefixes the  character to every line beginning
 with from. :o(

Very OT: Nick... Outlook?!? LoL
 I lived to see this happen...

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Re: How to indent a whole block of text?

2001-12-10 Thread Marco De Vitis

Hello Joseph, on 10/12/2001 at 16.42 you wrote:

JN I'm obviously missing something here  I couldn't find the
JN appropriate section in the FAQ, and try as I might, the process you

Exactly: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/shortcut_eng.html#blocks

JN If it's possible to be more detailed (I admit it seems already like

Peter already explained you the process in detail. I'll just add that
releasing the CTRL key _after_ pressing I has the same effect here;
do as you prefer.

Ciao,
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[ignore] Re[4]: How to indent a whole block of text?

2001-12-10 Thread Rick Reumann

On Monday, December 10, 2001, 11:09:55 AM, Rick wrote:


RR The below didn't work to well for me either. It indents a little bit
RR but then when you hit I to indent it some more it just moved the
RR first line. I like the switch to column mode and insert the empty area
RR like you mentioned.

Thanks Peter provided the answer. Sorry I didn't realize you had to
repeat the whole process including hitting the K again before the I.
Thanks for the clarification.

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Re: [ignore] Re[4]: How to indent a whole block of text?

2001-12-10 Thread Marco De Vitis

Hello Rick, on 10/12/2001 at 17.12 you wrote:

RR Thanks Peter provided the answer. Sorry I didn't realize you had to
RR repeat the whole process including hitting the K again before the I.

If you keep the CTRL key depressed and press K-I-K-I-K-I... and so on,
you can speed up things a lot. ;)

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Re: Using the %IF macro

2001-12-10 Thread Markus Gloede

Hi,

On Monday, December 10, 2001, 4:55:29 PM, Jan Rifkinson wrote:

 What am I doing wrong?

I don't know if this is the actual error, but I see a mismatch in the
number of quotation marks.

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Re: Yahoo slow?

2001-12-10 Thread Peter Meyns

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On Mon, 10 Dec 2001 09:46:02 +0100GMT (which was 09:46 +0100GMT where I live),
Peter Palmreuther thought about Yahoo slow? and wrote:

TF GMX does add the character into mails received via my pro-account. :-(

PP That's a reason to write to them. It may be critical for you to verify
PP signatures and they make this quite impossible with this insert. So
PP _you_ as a aping customer are in a situation to give them hard facts
PP why this have to be changed. What shall a non-paying user tell them? I
PP don't like it? It destroys PGP-signatures and they are important to
PP me?

Hi Pit,

that's exactly what I did two times. In their replies they denied that GMX
would in /any/ way alter the mails. Although I submitted copies of the same
message received with GMX and with my domain's account, they insisted that
it was happening on my side (maybe it is The Bat! v1.53bis you are
using...). But then I'm not a paying customer...

PP For critical issues I don't rely on a cost-free service, so this
PP is not an argument.

Right. That's why I changed the lists where PGP is used to my Puretec
account.
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Re: Using the %IF macro

2001-12-10 Thread Roelof Otten

Hello Jan,

On Mon, 10 Dec 2001 10:55:29 -0500GMT (10-12-01, 16:55 +0100GMT, where
I live), you wrote:

JRI group 3 lists in one folder as they involve variations
JRon the same subject. The intent was to identify which
JRgroup I was addressing  tailoring the Greeting to that
JRgroup. What am I doing wrong?

JR ,- [Macro]
JR | Hello
JR | %IF:%TO='[EMAIL PROTECTED]'BouvTrainers.:%-
JR | %IF:%TO='[EMAIL PROTECTED]'NAWBA Listers.:%-
JR | :BouvListers.
JR '-

Hello%-
 %IF:%TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED]:BouvTrainers.:%-
%IF:'%TO'='[EMAIL PROTECTED]':'NAWBA Listers.':'%-
BouvListers.'

You've mismatched the quotationmarks, between the condition and the
then-statement should be a colon, the not-statement should be between
quotation marks, that means that the whole second if-statement should
be selected. And the %- should be inside the envelope of quotation
marks.

I've tested my macro and it seems to work. But the mailing list I've
tested it on, needed TOAddr in stead of TO, but that'll be dependant
on the mailing list addressing.

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Re: Yahoo slow?

2001-12-10 Thread Allie C Martin

In a message dated, Mon, 10 Dec 2001 18:03:24 +0100, Peter Meyns [PM]
wrote:
...
PM that's exactly what I did two times. In their replies they denied that GMX
PM would in /any/ way alter the mails. Although I submitted copies of the same
PM message received with GMX and with my domain's account, they insisted that
PM it was happening on my side (maybe it is The Bat! v1.53bis you are
PM using...). But then I'm not a paying customer...

They could very well be right. It could be one of the intermediate
servers that is altering the message content. You could take a look at
your message headers to see how many servers are involved in getting
your gmx based messages to you.

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Re: Yahoo slow?

2001-12-10 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello Allie,

On 10 Dec 2001 at 19:19:38 you wrote (at least in part):

ACM They could very well be right. It could be one of the intermediate
ACM servers that is altering the message content. You could take a look at
ACM your message headers to see how many servers are involved in getting
ACM your gmx based messages to you.

No. That's plainly wrong. The only one altering a message in this
manner is the last server storing the message. As long as this message
is not stored in a MBOX format file it is not altered this way. This
insert is only done by a server that stores the message in a MBOX file
for being able to retrieved via POP3 or IMAP. This insert is done for
the POP-toaster (or IMAP-Server) to be able to recognize this 'From'
starting line is _not_ the beginning of a new message. In MBOX files
a new message is recognized by a line starting 'From ', therefore a
'From ' line within the message is escaped with this annoying ''.
While the mail is transported via SMTP it is not necessary to escape
this line as SMTP describes the end of a message as
'Newline.Newline' and therefore only lines containing only a
singel dot, but belonging to message body are _temporarily_ escaped,
but you won't recognize this as this is undone when arriving the last
SMTP.

The only way how GMX would not be the culprit were if they get the
mail via UUCP from a host where the mail already was stored in a MBOX
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Problem with URLS in AOL email

2001-12-10 Thread Michael S. Greenbaum

On 9  Dec 2001 at 18:59:00 I wrote:

 Anyone have any idea what the problem is and what the solution might
 be?

On 10 Dec 2001 you responded:

A faint one: AOL needs a special format for URL's, AFAIK. Lots of
newsletters have a section For AOL users.

If he could define another browser (Opera, IE or Netscape) as the
system default it should work. Or he just takes on another ISP. ;-)

This friend is nearly computer illiterate and lives in another city.
There's no chance he would be able to use another browser, and he's
not willing to change from AOL.

Is there anything I can do from TB to make URLs in my email to him
clickable on his AOL browser? He claims he gets mail from other people
and is able to click their URLs.


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Re: Using the %IF macro

2001-12-10 Thread Carsten Thönges

Hi Jan,

JRI group 3 lists in one folder as they involve variations
JRon the same subject. The intent was to identify which
JRgroup I was addressing  tailoring the Greeting to that
JRgroup. What am I doing wrong?

You should try this one :-)

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| %IF:'%TOADDR'='[EMAIL PROTECTED]':'NAWBA Listers.':'BouvListers.'
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Sorting folders

2001-12-10 Thread wee David

I've looked for, and probably missed, the answer to how to sort
folders in the Users FAQ and the list archive.

Basically, I'd like to sort the folders so that the ones I use most
are at the top of the tree after the in, out, sent and trash. Is there
a way to do this?

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Re: Sorting folders

2001-12-10 Thread Rick Reumann

On Monday, December 10, 2001, 3:42:25 PM, wee wrote:

wD I've looked for, and probably missed, the answer to how to sort
wD folders in the Users FAQ and the list archive.

Not sure if there is a sort command, but I know you can move any
folder where you want by holding down the alt key and the dragging the
folder to where you want it. Maybe that helps.

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Re: Problem with URLS in AOL email

2001-12-10 Thread Brian Payne

At Monday, December 10, 2001 10:34:27 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is there anything I can do from TB to make URLs in my email to him
 clickable on his AOL browser? He claims he gets mail from other people
 and is able to click their URLs.

  About the only things -I- could suggest would be to encase the URL
  in the RFC1738-standard encapsulation, like so:

 URL:http://this.is.my.url/~coolsite

  or to use HTML, like:

a href=http://this.is.my.url/~coolsite;http://this.is.my.url/~coolsite/a

   I don't know of the former will work, but I suspect the latter
   would, with AOL mail.

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Secure POP3 ?

2001-12-10 Thread Alexander Jason

I'm new to the list so please forgive me if this has been discussed . . ..

Is SECURE POP3 possible with TB -- or will it SOON be possible? My mail server has been
switched to ATTBI and it requires Secure POP3.

How is it that Outlook and many other mail clients have this and we don't . . .

Alex Jason


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Re: Resending Messages

2001-12-10 Thread Zach Robbins


Wednesday, December 05, 2001, 11:49:48 PM, Eddie Castelli wrote:


 There is a small danger in doing so. When the eMail is copied to the
 outbox this eMail is **ready to send**. Assuming the moment you have
 copied the eMail and this account is checked for new eMails and in
 your account properties you have selected 'combined delivery
 (send+receive)' then this eMail is send instantly without changes.

 In fact, this would be a suggestion to Ritlabs: when copying a eMail
 from Send to Outbox it should be placed in *saved* mode.

I may have changed some of the display settings in the message list,
but I don't see how one might easily tell at first glance whether a
message is in 'saved' mode or otherwise.

How can you tell at first glance?

Zach


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Re: Resending Messages

2001-12-10 Thread Zach Robbins


Thursday, December 06, 2001, 2:55:47 AM, Eddie Castelli wrote:

 Dear Peter, 

  --- Peter Palmreuther / Donnerstag, 06.12.01, 09:27:23
 Resending Messages


 No matter what shortcuts you choose to 'Re-Send' a message
 (Shift+F6 is working without opening the folder view) the message
 it placed in outbox. [...]

 Oh yes this is much easier. It opens directly in Edit Mode then you
 only need to insert the new eMail address - and here it goes.

Shift + F6 opens a message in edit mode?

Not for me! I selected a message from the 'Sent' folder, hit Shift+F6,
and was only presented with an OK to Re-send this message? prompt.
After clicking OK, the copy of the message to be re-sent went straight
into the outbox.

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Crazy Idea? XP Mail Notification...

2001-12-10 Thread Mark R Harding

Hi TBUDL,

I have a (possibly) daft idea I'd like some advice/help on if possible
or at the very least a response that what I'm thinking of just isn't
possible in TB!.

If one runs Win XP and uses the Welcome Screen as the Logon mechanism
(rather than the NT/2000 classic ctrl-alt-del logon box) then it's
possible to have extra information listed against each user's account
icon - principally the number of programs currently running under each
ID and the number of unread email messages in their MSN/Hotmail
accounts - should they have one.

This is possible because (according to Microsoft's info) both
Outlook/Express and Messenger are capable or checking that mail and
then updating the registry key stored at...

HKEY_CURRENT_USER/Software/Microsoft/Windows/CurrentVersion/UnreadMail

I was wondering if there was a way to get TB! to report the number of
new mail messages (ie: unread messages) to (say) a shell/batch script
of some kind that could then update the registry key indicated. I
don't use hotmail but I have several accounts, from all of which the
mail gets congregated into one set of folders under TB! This would
mean that if I could get a single notification out of TB! I could
probably do something with the XP registry.

I've looked into the helpfiles under the command line options but not
found anything really meaningful.  Is there any obscure feature that
might help me hidden away somewhere?

As usual, any and all help would be appreciated.

Best Wishes,

Mark.

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Re: Resending Messages

2001-12-10 Thread Allie C Martin

In a message dated, Mon, 10 Dec 2001 15:17:07 -0700, Zach Robbins [ZR]
wrote:
...
ZR I may have changed some of the display settings in the message list,
ZR but I don't see how one might easily tell at first glance whether a
ZR message is in 'saved' mode or otherwise.

ZR How can you tell at first glance?

If you have the parked message column enabled in the Outbox message
list, you'll see a little paper with an hour glass over it. To see
what I mean, create a new message and save it as a draft. Look at the
parked column.

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Printing all on the To list

2001-12-10 Thread Absicherer

Hi, I've received a message with more than 50 names on the 'To' list, but
TB only prints the first recipient on the list. My print template is set to
To: %ToName %ToAddr, how can I print all the names  addresses on the
list? Thanks.

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Re: Printing all on the To list

2001-12-10 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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A Hi, I've received a message with more than 50 names on the 'To'
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A names  addresses on the list? Thanks.

Use the %TOLIST macro instead.

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Re: Crazy Idea? XP Mail Notification...

2001-12-10 Thread Januk Aggarwal

Hello Mark,

An archeological dig discovered that on Tuesday, December 11, 2001 at
00:01 GMT +, Mark R Harding [MRH] typed the following:

MRH HKEY_CURRENT_USER/Software/Microsoft/Windows/CurrentVersion/UnreadMail

MRH I was wondering if there was a way to get TB! to report the number of
MRH new mail messages (ie: unread messages) to (say) a shell/batch script
MRH of some kind that could then update the registry key indicated.
[...]
MRH I've looked into the helpfiles under the command line options but not
MRH found anything really meaningful.  Is there any obscure feature that
MRH might help me hidden away somewhere?

As far as I know, there is no such feature that you could use
directly.  However, what you could do is to create a script that would
export only unread messages from each of your folders.  The script
would then have to count the resulting messages and could report the
number of unread messages.  I can help you with the VBScript version
of this, but we should move discussions about code to the TBTECH list.


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Re: Ticker Lifted?

2001-12-10 Thread PFord

On December 09, 2001, Nick Danger wrote:

 This little app here:

 http://www.tickermymail.com/

 sure looks like it was lifted straight from TB!

Although RIT Labs claims that the Mail Ticker is unique, Novell's
Groupwise has a utility that is virtually identical, at least in the
early incarnations of the Mail Ticker, which predates The Bat. If The
Bat flew high enough to register on Novell's radar screen, they might
object. :)

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Re: Problem with URLs

2001-12-10 Thread PFord

On December 09, 2001, Michael S. Greenbaum wrote:

 I apologize if this question has already been dealt with ad nauseum,
 but a friend of mine, who uses aol for his browser, can't seem to open
 URLs I send him by double-clicking on them.

 He's using, I believe, aol version 5, and I'm using The Bat!
 version 1.49. We're both on PCs.

You need to wrap links in HTML for AOL:

A HREF=http://www.ritlabs.com/RIT Labs/A

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