More than one email per account?

2001-09-07 Thread Marvin

Hi!

I have two short questions I hope someone can help me with.

1) Is there any way to use several email adress' and several pop mail
servers using one account? I just want one inbox/outbox/sent folder for
several email adress'.

2) Since drag and drop doesn´t work. Is there any way to move one folder to
put it as a sub folder in another folder. Because when I imported my mail
from Outbreak Express, all folders were imported to the root in TB. Now I
can´t seem to move them to where they should recide (ie some were sub
folders).

/Marvin


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Re: More than one email per account?

2001-09-07 Thread Edvinas

Hello Marvin,

On Friday, September 07, 2001, 11:31, you wrote:

M 2) Since drag and drop doesn´t work. Is there any way to move one folder
M to put it as a sub folder in another folder. Because when I imported my
M mail from Outbreak Express, all folders were imported to the root in
M TB. Now I can´t seem to move them to where they should recide (ie some
M were sub folders).

Hold Alt key and drag folder where you want.

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Re: More than one email per account?

2001-09-07 Thread David Elliott

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On 07 September 2001 at 11:31:17 +0200 (which was 10:31 where I live) Marvin
thoughtfully wrote the following

M 1) Is there any way to use several email adress' and several pop mail
M servers using one account? I just want one inbox/outbox/sent folder for
M several email adress'.

I have heard that there is something called hamster that will do that.

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Re: More than one email per account?

2001-09-07 Thread Raj

Marvin,

On   Fri, 7 Sep 2001, at 11:31:17 [GMT +0200] (which was 3:01 PM where I live) you
wrote:

M servers using one account? I just want one inbox/outbox/sent folder for
M several email adress'.

This  has  been on the wish list with pros  con. Currently not possible using TB. 
However
as  suggested in this forum some time ago, one could use Hampster to check all the pop 
and
then TB could retrieve from Hamster.

M 2) Since drag and drop doesn´t work. Is there any way to move one folder to
M put it as a sub folder in another folder. Because when I imported my mail
M from Outbreak Express, all folders were imported to the root in TB. Now I
M can´t seem to move them to where they should recide (ie some were sub
M folders).

Use along with Alt key to move folders

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Re: More than one email per account?

2001-09-07 Thread Thomas F

Hi Marvin,

On   Fri, 7 Sep 2001 11:31:17 +0200GMT (07/09/2001, 17:31 +0800GMT),
Marvin wrote:

M 1) Is there any way to use several email adress' and several pop mail
M servers using one account? I just want one inbox/outbox/sent folder for
M several email adress'.

Funny. My main reason for changing to The Bat! a long time ago was
that I could completely seperate the accounts. Different folks...

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Re: More than one email per account?

2001-09-07 Thread Peter Meyns

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On   Fri, 7 Sep 2001 11:31:17 +0200GMT (which was 11:31 +0200GMT where I live),
Marvin presented us with these thoughts about More than one email per account?:

M 2) Since drag and drop doesn´t work. Is there any way to move one folder to
M put it as a sub folder in another folder.

Hi Marvin,

You can drag and drop one folder into another one by holding ctrl+alt when
dragging.

Cheers
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Re[2]: More than one email per account?

2001-09-07 Thread Raj

Thomas,

On Fri, 7 Sep 2001, at 18:07:43 [GMT +0800] (which was 3:37 PM where I live) you
wrote:

TF Funny. My main reason for changing to The Bat! a long time ago was
TF that I could completely seperate the accounts. Different folks...

So  was mine But today my needs have increased. All my main accounts are 
separate,
but  there  quite  a  few  (free provided by my ISP - who send out announcements) 
accounts
which  I would love to receive in one account. I could then set up filters and folders 
for
each  account  so  that  my reply to address will be in tune with what comes in. Now 
these
accounts are not important, but regular checks helps in getting info on time.

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Re: More than one email per account?

2001-09-07 Thread Roelof Otten

Hallo Marvin,

M 1) Is there any way to use several email adress' and several pop mail
M servers using one account? I just want one inbox/outbox/sent folder for
M several email adress'.

Setup a filter that triggers on every message for your 'secondary'
accounts that will move the messages to the inbox of your default
account.

M 2) Since drag and drop doesn´t work. Is there any way to move one folder to
M put it as a sub folder in another folder.

Press Alt and drag'n drop.
On my system there's problem with this, The Bat! won't place a folder
in another folder unless that other folder has already got a
sub-folder. And to place a folder as sub-folder in another folder you
don't drop it on the new parent-folder, but on the sister-folder it
has to be placed above.


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Re[2]: Registry

2001-09-07 Thread Andrew Hodgson

Hello TBUDL list,

Friday, September 07, 2001, 4:26:37 AM, Andrew Hodgson wrote:

SH Hi All,

SH On  Thu,  6 Sep 2001 at 12:26:28 GMT +0100 (9/6/2001 6:26 PM GMT +0700
SH where you think I live) Andrew Hodgson=[AH]typed the following :

AH I was hoping to use tb in network mode, with each workstation being
AH able to cope with any user logging in, however, one floor in this is
AH that tb stores settings in the registry, which means that if user logs
AH in to tb from another machine, they may get different settings.

SH I am not sure about network mode you're talking about, but here I am
SH running  The  Bat!  from  different  O/S  either using same thebat.exe
SH program  (I  am running Multi O/S : W2K, Win9x, Linux, for this case I
SH use/run  from  same  location/folder)  or  use  The  Bat!  on other PC
SH (sometimes  I  use  The  Bat!  on the Server)...so far no problem, all
SH folder, filter, template keep intact, even for multi account.

SH I  just put all of my folder and all of The Bat! config (account.*) to
SH network drive. That's all.

Thats all I did also but TB is adding registry entries to Win98, and
so if a user loggs in, then changes appearance settings, for example,
whether message headers are displayed or not, then when next user
comes in, he will get mail headers regardless of whether he had them
or not in the previous session.

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Re: More than one email per account?

2001-09-07 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello Roelof,

On Friday, September 07, 2001 at 1:09:26 PM you wrote (at least in part):

RO Press Alt and drag'n drop.
RO On my system there's problem with this, The Bat! won't place a folder
RO in another folder unless that other folder has already got a
RO sub-folder. And to place a folder as sub-folder in another folder you
RO don't drop it on the new parent-folder, but on the sister-folder it
RO has to be placed above.

If you try not only Alt but Alt+Ctrl when dragging/dropping you'll be
successful when dropping the folder on the to-be-top folder instead of the
to be sister folder :-)

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Re: More than one email per account?

2001-09-07 Thread Allie C Martin

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Hi Raj,

On Fri, 7 Sep 2001 15:28:33 +0530, you graced us with these comments:
...
M servers using one account? I just want one inbox/outbox/sent
M folder for several email adress'.

R This has been on the wish list with pros  con. Currently not
R possible using TB. However as suggested in this forum some time
R ago, one could use Hampster to check all the pop and then TB could
R retrieve from Hamster.

Not just Hamster, but any mailserver software will do this for you. I
personally use MDaemon. MDaemon is however a bit pricy and will
therefore only be worth your while if you use all or most of it's
features which I do. Another choice is Mercury/32 which is free.
Another is VPOP. There are many choices out there.

If you wish for simple multiPOP support per single TB! account, then
using Hamster is probably the way to go since it's said to be easier
to configure and use.

Mercury/32 would be my first choice personally, since the price is
right, it's a good start because of ease of use relative to features,
and it offers a dedicated SMTP server which totally frees you of the
worry of your ISP SMTP server preventing you from sending messages
without the ISP from address. Another added advantage is that it
supports message filtering, so all those request for being able to add
message headers, change incoming/outgoing header fields, stripping
HTML attachments and the like, will now be at your finger tips.

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Maybe OT - News Reader problem

2001-09-07 Thread Mac




07-09-2001 , 14:10 , 

Hello Batters,

sorry  if  this is way OT but after sending this to the TBOT list I thought of
mailing to the big list as well, I guess mauch more users are on the TBUDL.

I have a question about the Free Agent which I hope I could get some help with -
from Batters using maybe Agent for newsreading. Thanks kindly in advance ;-)

I'm  using  TB  for  my  mail but I can't seem to get the Free Agent going on my
system.   As   soon  as  I  a  click  on  a  link  to  the  news  sites  (  like
news://news.stardock.com/ ) in the Net Captor or IE5.5 the Lookout Express loads
and  that's  it.  In the IE 5.5 settings the only apps in the list to chose from
under  Programs  /  Discussion  Group programs are Microsoft Outlook and Outlook
Express.  The  Free  Agent  is installed on my system but doesn't appear in this
list.

And then, am I right when I believe that the Free Agent can handle only one news
server at the time ? In the General preferences there is only one field for this
and  if  I  usenews.worldonline.se   which is my ISP, I only get access to
zillions  of  groups  but I can't reach those I'm interested in following ( e.g.
news.stardock.com  for  my  Object  Desktop  news  ).  So  if  I  want  to go to
news.stardock.com  I  have  to  change the news server and then collect. If I go
back to my ISP's groups, all Stardock groups are not accessable.

I've  just  done  this,  I've  changed  the  news  server  back to worldonline ,
collected  all  the  groups agaian, subscribed to some, got new headers, but
when  I  tried  to  acces  some of the Stardock groups, I've got the message: An
online error occured - error repported by Server 411 No Such Group

Well,  of  course  when  I'm  trying  to  reach  the Stardock server through the
news.worldonline.se

Sad  enough the Outlook Express handles this easily, I've just configured it for
different  news  servers without problems. OK, well use the Outlook Express, you
all  might  say,  but  hey,  I don't like it so much, I'd like to use some other
software. Could you suggest any ?

Thanks very much for everybody's time .
  

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Re: Maybe OT - News Reader problem

2001-09-07 Thread Leo Zelevinsky

Hi, Mac,

Sounds like Free Agent has not registered itself as a newsreader
available on the system. Take a look at news.software.readers
newsgroup, and I bet you will find the answer to your problems.

However, I personally use XNews for news reading and I like it much
better than FA. It is absolutely free and has great features.
http://xnews.3dnews.net/

Sorry for the OT post, but I love XNews and wanted to push it.


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Re[2]: More than one email per account?

2001-09-07 Thread Raj

Allie,

On Fri, 7 Sep 2001, at 07:00:29 [GMT -0500] (which was 5:30 PM where I live) you
wrote:

ACM Not just Hamster, but any mailserver software will do this for you. I
ACM personally use MDaemon. MDaemon is however a bit pricy and will
ACM therefore only be worth your while if you use all or most of it's
ACM features which I do. Another choice is Mercury/32 which is free.
ACM Another is VPOP. There are many choices out there.

I  did  try  HamsterMercury  32.  Since  I  am not a 'Techie' I was pretty happy 
with
Hamster's performance.

But  the  point  of  this  thread  is what I was keen about - The ability to have 
multiple
accounts  and  also  to check multiple 'pop' from one account. I am a little worried 
about
the performance of OS. As it is the min software which runs incl

FireWall
Anti Virus
Windows Commander
PostIT type notes
ADR - SMTP server
A messenger
and TB.

Now   if  I  add  another  mail server and then run my applications which could a 
browser,
word/Excel  and play music the system seems to protest even though its Pentium with 
128 MB
RAM.

The basic idea is to reduce overheads as much as possible. Hence the wish.

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Re: Registry

2001-09-07 Thread Syafril Hermansyah

Hi All,

On  Fri,  7 Sep 2001 at 12:40:54 GMT +0100 (9/7/2001 6:40 PM GMT +0700
where you think I live) Andrew Hodgson=[AH] typed the following :

SH I  just put all of my folder and all of The Bat! config (account.*) to
SH network drive. That's all.

AH Thats all I did also but TB is adding registry entries to Win98, and
AH so if a user loggs in, then changes appearance settings, for example,
AH whether message headers are displayed or not, then when next user
AH comes in, he will get mail headers regardless of whether he had them
AH or not in the previous session.

Oops...you're right...and I have no idea how to solve that :-(

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Unicode

2001-09-07 Thread Edvinas

Hello,

As I understand, currently The Bat! does not support Unicode. Am I right?

If so - anyone knows if there are plans to add Unicode support for future
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Re: More than one email per account?

2001-09-07 Thread Dierk Haasis

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Hello Raj!

On Friday, September 07, 2001 at 2:36:04 PM you wrote:

 But  the  point  of  this  thread  is what I was keen about - The ability to have 
multiple
 accounts  and  also  to check multiple 'pop' from one account. I am a little worried 
about
 the performance of OS. As it is the min software which runs incl

Hmm, I am not quite sure. Why don't you just let every account check
mail at start-up and then set it to collect mail at a given time
interval. For every account you just put in what you think is
appropriate. You can even exclude them from collecting.

The next thing to do is make filters to get the messages into one
account - TB! is able to filter over accounts. So, now you will have
all mail you want in one account be put into it.

either I am missing something important or TB! can do what you want,
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Re[2]: More than one email per account?

2001-09-07 Thread Raj

Dierk,

On Fri, 7 Sep 2001, at 15:44:02 [GMT +0200] (which was 7:14 PM where I live) you
wrote:

DH The next thing to do is make filters to get the messages into one
DH account - TB! is able to filter over accounts. So, now you will have
DH all mail you want in one account be put into it.

DH either I am missing something important or TB! can do what you want,
DH just not the way you thought it be achieved.

The point is one does not want to create more accounts than needed. Take my case for 
e.g.

For  my  livelihood  I need 3 id's and prefer to have them in separate accounts (The 
basic
reason I went for TB)

Then  there are the discussion list id which also requires a different id.

Now  I  subscribe to multiple ISP's and have a few 'free' e-mail accounts which I use. 
Now
this  last  set  does  nor require different accounts. In TB I will need to have 
different
accounts  and  then filter them all to one. As its stands now I have 8 accounts with a 
few
accounts  having  over  a 2 dozen folders. So if I create more accounts then my 'log 
pane'
looks too big for my comfort.

So would have preferred that the account could check multiple 'pop' accounts.


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Re: Unicode

2001-09-07 Thread SyP

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Hello Edvinas,

You wrote on 9/7/2001, 3:04 PM:

Edvinas As I understand, currently The Bat! does not support Unicode.
Edvinas Am I right?

There  is already some (very limited) functionality present, so if you
receive  an UTF-7 or UTF-8 encoded email, TB! will try to display it -
but   internally  converts  it  first  to  some  8-bit  codepage.  Han
characters,  characters from different codepages stand no chance being
displayed correctly.

IIRC this only applies to the plaintext part of the messages - the
HTML/Rich Text Viewer doesn't know jack about Unicode.

Edvinas If so - anyone knows if there are plans to add Unicode
Edvinas support for future versions of The Bat! ?

I really hope so.

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Re: More than one email per account?

2001-09-07 Thread Dierk Haasis

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Hello Raj!

On Friday, September 07, 2001 at 4:55:42 PM you wrote:

 So would have preferred that the account could check multiple 'pop' accounts.

Would forwarding of your free accounts be an alternative?



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Re: Registry

2001-09-07 Thread Syafril Hermansyah

Hello Myself :-)

On  Fri,  7 Sep 2001 at 19:35:41 GMT +0700 (which was 9/7/2001 7:35 PM
where you think I live) you told to the list :

SH I  just put all of my folder and all of The Bat! config (account.*) to
SH network drive. That's all.

AH Thats all I did also but TB is adding registry entries to Win98, and
AH so if a user loggs in, then changes appearance settings, for example,
AH whether message headers are displayed or not, then when next user
AH comes in, he will get mail headers regardless of whether he had them
AH or not in the previous session.

 Oops...you're right...and I have no idea how to solve that :-(

Hmm..the statement above only valid for win9x.
Just   test   using   W2K,   login   using   other   user,   run  same
thebat.exe...voila...it work as expected :-)

Andrew,
You must run W2K or NT  for this case!

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Re: Unicode

2001-09-07 Thread Thomas F

Hello SyP,

On Fri, 7 Sep 2001 16:39:26  +0200 GMT (07/09/2001, 22:39 +0800 GMT),
SyP wrote:

S There  is already some (very limited) functionality present, so if you
S receive  an UTF-7 or UTF-8 encoded email, TB! will try to display it -
S but   internally  converts  it  first  to  some  8-bit  codepage.  Han
S characters,  characters from different codepages stand no chance being
S displayed correctly.

Do you have a way of sending me such a message? If it is UTF-encoded,
and you have the fonts on your box, it should display correctly even
if the languages are mixed.

I didn't now about this internal conversion into an 8-bit encoding,
where did you read this?

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Re: More than one email per account?

2001-09-07 Thread Syafril Hermansyah

Hello Allie C Martin,

On  Fri, 7 Sep 2001 at 11:01:05 GMT -0500 (which was 9/7/2001 11:01 PM
where you think I live) you told to the list :

 I see your concern but the overhead that Mercury/32 incurs is really
 surprisingly small for a mailserver that also offers so many other
 features. With your system having 128MB of RAM, the addition of
 Hamster or Mercury/32 shouldn't be that bad. :-)

I am running at home on P166/64 MB RAM :-)
My I introduce one of Mercury expert on this list ... Andrew Hogson!

BTW. This listserver run on P133/80 MB :-)

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Re: Unicode

2001-09-07 Thread SyP



This message is HTML on purpose, sorry 
about that. :)

Let's see how TB! deals with 
UTF-8!

katakana letter ZI: ジ
o with double acute: ő
o with tilde: õ
a with grave accent: à
the Euro sign: €

Thomas Do you have a way of sending me 
such a message? If it isThomas UTF-encoded, and you have the fonts on 
your box, it shouldThomas display correctly even if the languages are 
mixed.

Let's use that old dusty Outlook Express 
for something...

Thomas I didn't now about this internal 
conversion into an 8-bit encoding,Thomas where did you read 
this?
Nowhere, I just figured it out... If I 
wasn't factually correct, I hope 
RIT Labs will correct me, that's why I 
CC:-ed [EMAIL PROTECTED]in my 
letter.

I guess they call WideCharToMultiByte with the current code page as a 
parameter, 
but I'm in wild speculation mode right 
now.

Bye, SyP


Fwd: Re: Unicode

2001-09-07 Thread SyP

Hi

Sorry I think my last message didn't look the same on the list as
before I sent it out... Here it is MIME-attached.


SyP




This message is HTML on purpose, sorry 
about that. :)

Let's see how TB! deals with 
UTF-8!

katakana letter ZI: ジ
o with double acute: ő
o with tilde: õ
a with grave accent: à
the Euro sign: €

Thomas Do you have a way of sending me 
such a message? If it isThomas UTF-encoded, and you have the fonts on 
your box, it shouldThomas display correctly even if the languages are 
mixed.

Let's use that old dusty Outlook Express 
for something...

Thomas I didn't now about this internal 
conversion into an 8-bit encoding,Thomas where did you read 
this?
Nowhere, I just figured it out... If I 
wasn't factually correct, I hope 
RIT Labs will correct me, that's why I 
CC:-ed [EMAIL PROTECTED]in my 
letter.

I guess they call WideCharToMultiByte with the current code page as a 
parameter, 
but I'm in wild speculation mode right 
now.

Bye, SyP



Re[3]: More than one email per account?

2001-09-07 Thread Roelof Otten

Hallo Raj,

R accounts  and  also  to check multiple 'pop' from one account. I am a little 
worried about
R the performance of OS. As it is the min software which runs incl

R FireWall
R Anti Virus
R Windows Commander
R PostIT type notes
R ADR - SMTP server
R A messenger
R and TB.

R Now   if  I  add  another  mail server and then run my applications which could a 
browser,
I'm not sure about Hamster, but when you're looking at a real
mail-server like MDaemon or Mailtraq (the one I swapped MDaemon for)
you can drop ADR, because they can do the same. (Send mail directly
without your ISP's smarthost)

I'm even reading usenet with TB, because my server can translate news
into a mailinglist and back. (I'm still looking for a real off-line
newsreader with the flexibility of TB)

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Re: Unicode

2001-09-07 Thread Thomas F

Hello SyP,

On Fri, 7 Sep 2001 19:08:13  +0200 GMT (08/09/2001, 01:08 +0800 GMT),
SyP wrote:

S Let's see how TB! deals with UTF-8!

I couldn't find a Context-Type and charset= header in your message.
Right clicking and choosing Charater Set on your message shows None.

In plain text view, none of the characters displayed correctly. They
show combinations of European characters (my default character set):

S katakana letter ZI: ジ

A lower-case a with a tilde, followed by a comma and a little hook
I've never seen before.

S o with double acute: ő

Upper-case A with the (Swedish) circle on top, followed by accente
grave, which hangs in the air.

S o with tilde: õ

Upper-case A with tilde, followed the Greek lower case letter mi
(the one that is used as micro in physics).

S a with grave accent: à

Upper case A with tilde.

S the Euro sign: €

Lower-case a with accente circumflex, followed by comma, followed by a
graphic character: upper right corner.

With internal HTML engine (1.54 b8), the characters are not displayd,
but I see rectangles instead. Some of these rectangles are preceded by
question marks.

Double-clicking on the attachment opens IE 5.5. Encoding is correctly
identified as UTF-8. The first two characters are displayed as
rectangles, the others correctly. I guess that is becuase I don't have
the fonts to display the first two.

Can we call this a bug? Or is UTF not officially supported, and we put
it in the wishlist?

S I guess they call WideCharToMultiByte with the current code page as
S a parameter, but I'm in wild speculation mode right now.

I don't know what this means, but in the HTML engine the word
WideCharToMultiByte is displayed normal, while IE displayes it in
bold. That's a beta-bug and does not belong on this list. ;-)

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Re: More than one email per account?

2001-09-07 Thread Dierk Haasis

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 My I introduce one of Mercury expert on this list ... Andrew Hogson!

I just read of a programme named Postguard, which seems to be small
and only for requesting e-mail from different accounts. Maybe a search
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Re: Maybe OT - News Reader problem

2001-09-07 Thread Roelof Otten

Hallo Mac,

M I'm  using  TB  for  my  mail but I can't seem to get the Free Agent going on my
M system.   As   soon  as  I  a  click  on  a  link  to  the  news  sites  (  like
M news://news.stardock.com/ ) in the Net Captor or IE5.5 the Lookout Express loads
M and  that's  it.

It is rather off topic, but Free Agent isn't capable of registering
itself in the registry as a newsreader, that's a feature you've got to
pay for. (Get the $29,95 Agent version)

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Re[2]: Unicode

2001-09-07 Thread Roelof Otten

Hallo Thomas,

TF I don't know what this means, but in the HTML engine the word
TF WideCharToMultiByte is displayed normal, while IE displayes it in
TF bold. That's a beta-bug and does not belong on this list. ;-)

In my version of TB WideCharToMultiByte is displayed as bold in the
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Re: More than one email per account?

2001-09-07 Thread Syafril Hermansyah

Hello Dierk Haasis,

On  Fri, 7 Sep 2001 at 19:22:01 GMT +0200 (which was 9/8/2001 12:22 AM
where you think I live) you told to the list :

 I just read of a programme named Postguard, which seems to be small
 and only for requesting e-mail from different accounts. Maybe a search
 will bring you more on it.

Using google, I found http://postguard.de, is this what you mean ?
I can not read German, so no comment :-)

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Re: Unicode

2001-09-07 Thread Peter Meyns

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SyP presented us with these thoughts about Unicode:

S This message is HTML on purpose, sorry about that. :)

S Let's see how TB! deals with UTF-8!

Hi SyP,

in The Bat! I get the results Thomas has already described. In my browser
(Opera 5.12) it is displayed as intended.

Cheers
Peter

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Re: Unicode

2001-09-07 Thread SyP

Hello Thomas,
 
You wrote on 9/7/2001, 7:37 PM:

Thomas I couldn't find a Context-Type and charset= header in your
Thomas message.

Thomas Right clicking and choosing Character Set on your message
Thomas shows None.

Sorry, this is my last try :)

I think I know what happened:

At first I saved the UTF-encoded message as EML from OE. Then I
imported it to TB!. At this point, the charset=utf-8 was in their
place.

When I sent it out, and also when I sent it out MIME-forwarded from
TB!, it seems to have lost this charset= header.

Now I will try to send the message saved from Outlook attached as
file.

By the way, TBUDL now accepts attachments, sh! ;)
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This message is HTML on purpose, sorry 
about that. :)

Let's see how TB! deals with 
UTF-8!

katakana letter ZI: ジ
o with double acute: ő
o with tilde: õ
a with grave accent: à
the Euro sign: €

Thomas Do you have a way of sending me 
such a message? If it isThomas UTF-encoded, and you have the fonts on 
your box, it shouldThomas display correctly even if the languages are 
mixed.

Let's use that old dusty Outlook Express 
for something...

Thomas I didn't now about this internal 
conversion into an 8-bit encoding,Thomas where did you read 
this?
Nowhere, I just figured it out... If I 
wasn't factually correct, I hope 
RIT Labs will correct me, that's why I 
CC:-ed [EMAIL PROTECTED]in my 
letter.

I guess they call WideCharToMultiByte with the current code page as a 
parameter, 
but I'm in wild speculation mode right 
now.

Bye, SyP



Re: Unicode

2001-09-07 Thread SyP

Hello Thomas,
 
You wrote on 9/7/2001, 7:37 PM:

Thomas I couldn't find a Context-Type and charset= header in your
Thomas message.

Thomas Right clicking and choosing Character Set on your message
Thomas shows None.

Sorry, this is my last try :)

I think I know what happened:

At first I saved the UTF-encoded message as EML from OE. Then I
imported it to TB!. At this point, the charset=utf-8 was in their
place.

When I sent it out, and also when I sent it out MIME-forwarded from
TB!, it seems to have lost this charset= header.

Now I will try to send the message saved from Outlook attached as
file.

By the way, TBUDL now accepts attachments, sh! ;)
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This message is HTML on purpose, sorry 
about that. :)

Let's see how TB! deals with 
UTF-8!

katakana letter ZI: ジ
o with double acute: ő
o with tilde: õ
a with grave accent: à
the Euro sign: €

Thomas Do you have a way of sending me 
such a message? If it isThomas UTF-encoded, and you have the fonts on 
your box, it shouldThomas display correctly even if the languages are 
mixed.

Let's use that old dusty Outlook Express 
for something...

Thomas I didn't now about this internal 
conversion into an 8-bit encoding,Thomas where did you read 
this?
Nowhere, I just figured it out... If I 
wasn't factually correct, I hope 
RIT Labs will correct me, that's why I 
CC:-ed [EMAIL PROTECTED]in my 
letter.

I guess they call WideCharToMultiByte with the current code page as a 
parameter, 
but I'm in wild speculation mode right 
now.

Bye, SyP



Re: Unicode

2001-09-07 Thread SyP


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Hello all,

I wrote on 9/7/2001, 8:11 PM:

SyP Now I will try to send the message saved from Outlook attached as
SyP file.

It didn't exactly worked out...
Now, sorry everyone for the torrent of HTML mail :) I just really
liked TB! to properly handle Unicode.

I put the original version, which still has the Charset= header, to
this place:

http://www.detim.hu/~syp/tb/unicode.eml

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Re: Unicode

2001-09-07 Thread Syafril Hermansyah


Hello SyP,

On  Fri,  7 Sep 2001 at 20:11:51 GMT +0200 (which was 9/8/2001 1:11 AM
where you think I live) you told to the list :

 By the way, TBUDL now accepts attachments, sh! ;)

Oops, try it now :-)

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2001-09-07 Thread Syafril Hermansyah

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OT: Sending mail

2001-09-07 Thread Timothy J. Luoma



The recent conversation about multiple accounts and the various programs led me to 
this question:

I have to switch TheBat's preferences at least twice a day -- when I am sending mail 
at home, I need to use my home provider's SMTP relay; and when I am at work I need to 
use work's SMTP.

So far the best I have come up with is making an entry in my hosts file so that I 
can use home for the home SMTP and work for the work SMTP.

Is there a program I can use that will let me set localhost as my own SMTP server?

If so, that would be remarkably handy and I'd love to hear more, esp. about good free 
programs :-)

Thanks!
TjL



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Re: OT: Sending mail

2001-09-07 Thread William Moore


Hello Timothy,

Saturday, September 08, 2001, 10:41:56 AM, you wrote:
TJL Is there a program I can use that will let me set localhost as my own SMTP 
server?

Try www.postcastserver.com

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Re: More than one email per account?

2001-09-07 Thread Dierk Haasis


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Hello Syafril!

On Friday, September 07, 2001 at 7:56:28 PM you wrote:

 Using google, I found http://postguard.de, is this what you mean =3F
 I can not read German, so no comment :-)

Probably. I'm sorry, I just found a short description in one of my
(better) newsletters. It looked as it is exactly what some people
asked for - small, easy, no overhead.



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Re: OT: Sending mail

2001-09-07 Thread Lars Geiger


Hi Timothy,
On Sat, 8 Sep 2001, at 02:41:56 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:

TJL when I am sending mail at home, I need to use my home provider's
TJL SMTP relay; and when I am at work I need to use work's SMTP.

TJL Is there a program I can use that will let me set localhost as my
TJL own SMTP server?

You can try X-Ray, a small program which works like some kind of mail
proxy on your localhost. It was designed to work with TB! You can select
the actual SMTP server via an icon in the tray area.

Have a look here: http://www.xrayapp.net/

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Re: OT: Sending mail

2001-09-07 Thread Rob


Hello all,

on Fri, 7 Sep 2001, at 20:37:45 local time (GMT +0100), William wrote:

WM Try www.postcastserver.com

are you using it and is it any good ? i've been looking around and it's the
only freeware SMTP server (and also the biggest download ; 9mb !)

setting up your own SMPT server sounds like a great idea ; i've got several
accounts but they won't (of course) 'relay' ...

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Re: OT: Sending mail

2001-09-07 Thread Allie C Martin


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On Sat, 8 Sep 2001 00:18:07 +0200, you wrote these words of wisdom:

...
LG You can try X-Ray, a small program which works like some kind of
LG mail proxy on your localhost. It was designed to work with TB! You
LG can select the actual SMTP server via an icon in the tray area.

LG Have a look here: http://www.xrayapp.net/

X-ray will only use a Smarthost SMTP. It doesn't possess the ability
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Re: OT: Sending mail

2001-09-07 Thread Raj


Timothy,

On Sat, 8 Sep 2001, at 02:41:56 [GMT -0700 (PDT)] (which was 3:11 PM where I live) you
wrote:


TJL Is there a program I can use that will let me set localhost as my own SMTP 
server?

TJL If so, that would be remarkably handy and I'd love to hear more, esp. about good 
free programs :-)

My  personal  opinion  (And  I  am a non-techie, I have tried Poscast, Mercury and 
several
others.)  is for you to try out AutoRoute SMTP (Free) from www.mailutilities.com. You 
just
enter the SMTP details in the AutoRoute once and it will detect the SMTP you are 
connected
to automatically. In TB you use 'localhost'. No need to select your SMTP manually.

However  it uses the ISP's SMTP server and all rules applicable to the ISP will be 
applied
to outgoing mails.

Small (really small  hence in my definition low on overheads) and very efficient . I 
have
tried it for over 6 months and then shifted to ADR for more features.

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Re[2]: More than one email per account?

2001-09-07 Thread Raj


Dierk, Lars  others

On Fri, 7 Sep 2001, at 22:14:30 [GMT +0200] (which was 1:44 AM where I live) you
wrote:

DH Probably. I'm sorry, I just found a short description in one of my
DH (better) newsletters. It looked as it is exactly what some people
DH asked for - small, easy, no overhead.

Thanks  for  the  inputs, am trying out x-ray and would have loved to check out 
postguard,
but cannot see a site which has the same in English for me to understand. :(

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Re[2]: OT: Sending mail

2001-09-07 Thread Raj


Rob,

On Sat, 8 Sep 2001, at 00:34:54 [GMT +0200] (which was 4:04 AM where I live) you
wrote:

R setting up your own SMPT server sounds like a great idea ; i've got several
R accounts but they won't (of course) 'relay' ...

This where software like ADR comes in handy. Only its not free :(

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Re[3]: More than one email per account?

2001-09-07 Thread Dwight A Corrin


On Friday, September 07, 2001, 10:32:49 PM, Raj wrote:



 Thanks  for  the  inputs, am trying out x-ray and would have loved to check out 
postguard,
 but cannot see a site which has the same in English for me to understand. :(

try

http://www.gatecomm.com/


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Re: Reminders (was: Bye Bye The Bat.... Say Hi to Becky!)

2001-09-07 Thread Januk Aggarwal


Hi Allie,

Historians believe that Sunday, September 2, 2001 at 08:36 GMT -0500
was when, Allie C Martin [AM] typed the following:

AM I don't think it's really that complicated.

AM I use the same command type file to send the greeting via TB!'s CLI
AM support. The CLI commands are all documented in the help with examples.

AM We'd be happy to help anyone who chooses that route.

I have come up with a script that makes it even easier.
Unfortunately, I can't post attachments to this list, so if you would
like a copy (and didn't get it through TBTECH), send me a 
message at mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED].  I have set up an
auto-responder to send the proper files.  I don't leave TB on 24/7, so
it may take a few hours to respond.

Here is a basic outline of what the script does:

1. For each registered account, look in reminder folder
2. If there are any expired messages, they are moved to the outbox and
   the date information is stripped from the subject line.
3. Messages that haven't expired are kept in reminder folder.

Once you've entered the account info, to schedule a post-dated
message, all you have to do is enter the date in the subject line and
move the message into the reminder folder.  By running the script from
the Windows Scheduler, you can have it send old messages at your
scheduling.

The script is a VBScript using elements from Windows Scripting Host.

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Live in Tokyo

2001-09-07 Thread Yuki Taga



Keiko san

Konnichiwa J-wabe de Keiko san no uta wo kiitekara zutto kininatte
imasu.  Chokusetsu live ni itte CD wo kaitaito omotteirunodesuga,
itsumo doushitemo tsugou ga aimasen.  Moshi saki no Tokyo deno live
schedule ga kimatte itara oshiete kudasai.  Hayameni yoteini iremasu.
Dekireba Kinyoubi ka Doyou bi ga iidesuga.

Best,

Yuki ^_^

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Sorry, mistaken message

2001-09-07 Thread Yuki Taga


All:

Sorry, but a personal message of mine was accidently sent to this
list.

Mea culpa.

Yuki ^_^


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