Re[2]: Recovering Folders

2001-10-29 Thread Raj

Thomas,

On Mon, 29 Oct 2001, at 14:35:40 [GMT +0800] (which was 12:05 where I live) you
wrote:

TF I bet. What did you do? Telekinesis? ;-)

:)

I had reinstall every s/w. Still doing so. Finished TB  a few others.

Just realized that TB worked (w/o the old folders) after I did a W2k re install. I 
checked
and found that TB was not listed in the 'Remove Program' options in Control Panel.

Now however I have re-installed TB.

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Re: Keyboard Shortcut

2001-10-29 Thread Dierk Haasis

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On Monday, October 29, 2001 at 5:06:47 AM you wrote:

 It would be a pane, not a window. I think it's called the account-tree
 pane. But I now know what you mean. No, there is no keybaord shortcut,
 tab is the way to go.

Ain't that a keyboard shortcut? It actually is the only one in TB!
with only *one* key except for QuickSearch!



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Re: Keyboard Shortcut

2001-10-29 Thread Thomas F

Hi Dwight,

On Mon, 29 Oct 2001 02:14:04 -0600GMT (29/10/2001, 16:14 +0800GMT),
Dwight A Corrin wrote:

DAC There are three panes, right. So you could always get there in one
DAC shot, because tab goes clockwise and shift-tab goes counterclockwise.

Right. I was thinking along the lines of crtl-shft-alt-shlashback or
so. The shortcuts in TB usually a lot more mobility in your fingers
(actually quite good: aerobics for the fingers). g

DAC (unless you are talking about a digital clock)

Yes, over here, the tab key sometimes moves the focus digital-clock
wise. I cannot quite pinpoint it, that's why I haven't submitted a bug
report yet. Have you exprerienced the same?

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Re: Keyboard Shortcut

2001-10-29 Thread Allie C Martin

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@ 02:14:04 -0600 [ Mon, 29 Oct 2001], Dwight A Corrin [DAC]
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...
 It would be a pane, not a window. I think it's called the
 account-tree pane. But I now know what you mean. No, there is no
 keybaord shortcut, tab is the way to go.

DAC There are three panes, right.

There are actually five places you could have to tab through. If
the quick-search bar is open, the tab will take you there as part of
the circle. If the message being displayed has attachments, then the
attachments display bar will count as another pane to tab through.
Having a shortcut that takes you straight to the account tree would
therefore be useful.

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Re[2]: Recovering Folders

2001-10-29 Thread Raj

Allie,

On Sun, 28 Oct 2001, at 06:34:32 [GMT -0500] (which was 17:04 where I live) you
wrote:

ACM You can do the following.

ACM a) copy your /mail folder to another location so that TB! cannot get
ACM at it.

Subsequent  to having reinstalled from my back up I checked the folder and I see 
duplicate
sub-directories. Posted a screen shot for easy understanding

For  each  folder there is now another folder with 000 in front of it. It does appear 
that
the  folder  with 000 is the one being used and the earlier folders before W2K install 
are
the ones w/o the 000

http://www.mailmejobs.com/tbd.jpg

The  reason I checked was that the QT's configured where not working as they were 
supposed
to.

Any  suggestions  as  to how I could TB to point to the correct folders. In TB the 
folders
are w/o the 000 names.

TIA.

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Re: Recovering Folders

2001-10-29 Thread Allie C Martin

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On Mon, 29 Oct 2001 15:50:02 +0530, Raj [R] wrote these comments:
...
R For each folder there is now another folder with 000 in front of
R it. It does appear that the folder with 000 is the one being used
R and the earlier folders before W2K install are the ones w/o the 000

R http://www.mailmejobs.com/tbd.jpg

Interesting. I see.

R The reason I checked was that the QT's configured where not working
R as they were supposed to.

This is expected since the QT info is stored in the acct folders.

R Any suggestions as to how I could TB to point to the correct
R folders. In TB the folders are w/o the 000 names.

First, note that you can easily relocate account home directories via
the account properties/files and directories by browsing to the new
location. TB! simply moves the account contents to the new location.
You therefore cannot do this.

The best way to do this would be to edit the registry. Editing the
entries related to TB! will not affect Win2k as a whole. It will only
affect TB!. The registry is really not that bad provided you know what
you're changing. A lot of TB!'s registry entries and their values are
in plain text.

Do the editing after exiting TB! and make a backup of the the TB!
registry subkey so that you can restore it in case your editing
doesn't improve your situation. Simply highlight the subkey
'HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\rit' then go to file//export.

Now navigate to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\rit\The Bat!\Users Depot

Take a patient look at it and you'll see the pattern. User#'s refer to
your accounts and Dir#'s refer to their corresponding directory. All
you need to do is to double click on each of those Dir#'s and enter
the relevant path.

Here's a screen shot of what my 'users depot' sub-key looks like.

http://www.geocities.com/acmartin.geo/usersdepot.png

You'll see what I mean about the User#'s and the Dir#'s. I see that
your folders are in the default location, i.e., where TB! decides to
put them. You may therefore see default as the value for all your
Dir#'s. These need to be changed to the desired paths. Simply
double-click on each of the entries and the editor sub-window will
pop-up for you to make the change.

If things are looking different just send another screen capture of
your users depot subkey so I can see what it looks like.

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If you don't like this method, then you could try copying the correct
folders to another directory. Change the home directories to their
rightful folders via the account preferences, then close TB! and
recopy the folders over.

I say it quickly but it's more hassle to actually do it. I don't know
how well it would work either since I always go the registry route
which never fails me.

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Re[2]: Recovering Folders

2001-10-29 Thread Raj

Allie,

On Mon, 29 Oct 2001, at 06:03:00 [GMT -0500] (which was 16:33 where I live) you
wrote:

ACM  say it quickly but it's more hassle to actually do it. I don't know
ACM how well it would work either since I always go the registry route
ACM which never fails me.

Thanks.

I did a test check with one folder. And it worked great.

Actually it was very simple Sheepish

Now a follow up question. Since the original folders are a day old ? is there any way 
I can
sync the same ???

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Re: Recovering Folders

2001-10-29 Thread Allie C Martin

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@ 16:59:24 +0530 [ Mon, 29 Oct 2001], Raj [R] contributed this to our
collective wisdom:
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R I did a test check with one folder. And it worked great.

R Actually it was very simple Sheepish

LOL! It is, isn't it? . once you understand it ... as with
everything else.

R Now a follow up question. Since the original folders are a day old
R ? is there any way I can sync the same ???

I don't see a practical way of doing this. I'd suggest doing some
exporting and importing of the messages you really want to keep.

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Re[2]: Recovering Folders

2001-10-29 Thread Raj

Allie,

On Mon, 29 Oct 2001, at 06:47:34 [GMT -0500] (which was 17:17 where I live) you
wrote:

ACM LOL! It is, isn't it? . once you understand it ... as with
ACM everything else.

Can I delete the folders with 000 after I have changed registry 

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Re: Keyboard Shortcut

2001-10-29 Thread Nick Danger

Subject: Keyboard Shortcut
   From: Allie C Martin
~~

Hello Allie,

 If the message being displayed has attachments, then the
 attachments display bar will count as another pane to tab through.
 Having a shortcut that takes you straight to the account tree would
 therefore be useful.

My thoughts exactly.  The reasoning behind it for me is I wanted to
make a macro that automatically popped focus to the account tree and
then paged up to the top when I hit my switch desktop button.  That
way every time I popped to my mail desktop TB! would be there and
waiting queued up in my work directory and ready for business! But
alas, it appears not to be possible as for the tab sequence to work I
would always need to be in the same spot previously to exiting.

Not a big problem by any stretch, just one more little way I was
trying to use PP to become even more lazier! ;-)

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Re: Keyboard Shortcut

2001-10-29 Thread Dwight A Corrin

On Monday, October 29, 2001, 3:30:39 AM, Thomas F wrote:

 Yes, over here, the tab key sometimes moves the focus digital-clock
 wise. I cannot quite pinpoint it, that's why I haven't submitted a
 bug report yet. Have you exprerienced the same?

After I posted this and was fiddling with the tab and shift/tab, I was
in the TBUDL folder, and I noticed that when the focus wasn't going
between the three panes it was actually moving through the links in
the preview pane at the bottom of the message, all the links added by
the listserver. I had never noticed this before and had wondered why
it took several taps before the focus switched panes.


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Re: Comment

2001-10-29 Thread Pete

Hello Allie,

Sunday, October 28, 2001, 2:44:23 PM, you wrote:

ACM How do you get rid of it. I usually can't and just have to
ACM ignore it.

P I move the real cursor on top of the fake and start to write
P something. One mark will do.

ACM I've never really tried that since I invariably don't have anything to
ACM type there.

Me neither... but I didn't say my method was perfect :)

ACM  I'd therefore have to delete it

Yes. That's what I have to do as well...

ACM and that would be a waste of time for what doesn't really bother
ACM me that much. :-)

And because the double does bother me, I use my time-consuming
method (three seconds, perhaps) every time... pathetic... :)


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Re: Cursor jumping when deleting threads

2001-10-29 Thread PFord

On Monday, October 29, 2001, Allie wrote:

PF When I'm going through a folder that has a lot of unread messages
PF from mailing lists, I'll delete some threads as I go using
PF CTRL-SHFT-DEL. Quite often, but not always, the focus in the
PF messages list (item grid) will jump to the top.

 I'm experiencing this as well and the only way I've found to prevent
 this is to delete the thread fully collapsed. It's definitely a TB!
 shortcoming and not you.

Ah ha! The cursor seems to jump only if I use CRTL-SHFT-DEL when I
shouldn't to delete messages within a expanded thread. My bad.

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Well, what the heck was this ?

2001-10-29 Thread Silviu Cojocaru

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Clicking on mailto: link in browser gives two msg windows

2001-10-29 Thread Don Zeigler

Hi all,

Clicking on a mailto: link in Internet Explorer opens up two message
editing windows in the Bat. Has anyone else experienced this behavior?
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Re: Well, what the heck was this ?

2001-10-29 Thread Shahar

Silviu,
I did. It was sent to the list.


Thank you for writing


On Monday, October 29, 2001, at 18:52:52, Silviu wrote to Shahar about:
Well, what the heck was this ?


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Re: Well, what the heck was this ?

2001-10-29 Thread Edvinas

Hello,

On Monday, October 29, 2001, 18:52, Silviu wrote:

SC Did anyone else get this ?

I received the same.

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Re: Clicking on mailto: link in browser gives two msg windows

2001-10-29 Thread Roelof Otten

Hallo Don,

Op maandag 29 oktober 2001, 17:54:03, schreef jij:

DZ Clicking on a mailto: link in Internet Explorer opens up two message
DZ editing windows in the Bat. Has anyone else experienced this behavior?

Yep, I just tried it. When I double-click I get two new messages, when
I click once I get one message editing window.

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Re[2]: Clicking on mailto: link in browser gives two msg windows

2001-10-29 Thread Don Zeigler

On 10/29/2001, Roelof Otten wrote:

Roelof Yep, I just tried it. When I double-click I get two new
Roelof messages, when I click once I get one message editing window.

I'm getting two editing windows with one click.

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Re: Lycos acount problems

2001-10-29 Thread Nils Haag

Hello cyclons, hi list,
 
On Sunday, October 28, 2001 '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' wrote:

 is anybody using a lycos account with the bat?  I am using an acount
 with lycos.nl, and download and upload messages with mx1.lycos.nl.

 The problem is : I don' see the contents of the mails I receive
 immediately (see my previous messages : Message not shown).  I have to
 press F9 to see the contents of the mails I receive from lycos.

 Is there anybody else who also uses an acount with lycos, and who
 hasn't got problems with this?

I've used an account at lycos.de, but the problem seems to be the
same.
Lycos uses a very old version of sendmail. I've already told this
problem to ritlabs and lycos.
Ritlabs says, they will not change TB! for such an old version.
Lycos only answered, they forwarded the problem to their technical
support. This was months ago. I've asked two or three times again, but
no answer.
So I closed my lycos-account.
 

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Re: Well, what the heck was this ?

2001-10-29 Thread Dierk Haasis

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On Monday, October 29, 2001 at 5:52:52 PM you wrote:

 Did anyone else get this ?

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Re: Clicking on mailto: link in browser gives two msg windows

2001-10-29 Thread Silviu Cojocaru

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Monday, October 29, 2001 at 8:15:19 PM ,
Don Zeigler wrote the following
on the Clicking on mailto: link in browser gives two msg windows thread:

DZ Clicking on a mailto: link in Internet Explorer opens up two message
DZ editing windows in the Bat. Has anyone else experienced this behavior?

Single click gives me one editing windows here.

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Re: Clicking on mailto: link in browser gives two msg windows

2001-10-29 Thread Silviu Cojocaru

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Monday, October 29, 2001 at 8:12:30 PM ,
Roelof Otten wrote the following
on the Clicking on mailto: link in browser gives two msg windows thread:

RO Yep, I just tried it. When I double-click I get two new messages, when
RO I click once I get one message editing window.

Well, d'oh :) Double click counted as two separate cilcks = two
editing windows.

Nothing abnormal.

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Re: Clicking on mailto: link in browser gives two msg windows

2001-10-29 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Don,
On Monday, October 29, 2001 at 11:54:03 [GMT -0500], you wrote:

DZ Clicking on a mailto: link in Internet Explorer opens up two message
DZ editing windows in the Bat. Has anyone else experienced this
DZ behavior?

Yes, it has been this way for some time now, but I decided that it
wasn't that annoying for me (as I rarely ever click mailto: links in my
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Re: Keyboard Shortcut

2001-10-29 Thread Januk Aggarwal

Hello Nick,

An archeological dig discovered that on Monday, October 29, 2001 at
07:27 GMT -0600, Nick Danger [ND] typed the following:

ND My thoughts exactly.  The reasoning behind it for me is I wanted to
ND make a macro that automatically popped focus to the account tree and
ND then paged up to the top when I hit my switch desktop button.  That
ND way every time I popped to my mail desktop TB! would be there and
ND waiting queued up in my work directory and ready for business! But
ND alas, it appears not to be possible as for the tab sequence to work I
ND would always need to be in the same spot previously to exiting.

Argh!  This is TB, don't say not possible.  ;-)
It isn't exactly what you asked for, but there is an option to change
focus to a predefined Account and/or Folder.  Make a Windows shortcut
for TB with the /FOCUS command-line parameter.  That will take you to
the folder of your choice when you run the shortcut, regardless of if
TB is open or not.


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Re: Well, what the heck was this ?

2001-10-29 Thread Peter Meyns

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SC Did anyone else get this ?

Hi Silviu,

I received it too. Probably all on the list did. Possibly some dutaint
robot running berserk... ;o)
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Re: Well, what the heck was this ?

2001-10-29 Thread Jernej Simoni

Hello Silviu,

29. oktober 2001, 17:52:52, you wrote:

SC Did anyone else get this ?

I did, and I mime-forwarded it to the moderators...

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Re: Well, what the heck was this ?

2001-10-29 Thread Chema Berian


SC Did anyone else get this ?

JS I did, and I mime-forwarded it to the moderators...

So I did...

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Question: Redirect/Forward

2001-10-29 Thread Miles Alexander

Users,

What  is  the  difference  between  Redirect and Forward. Have not found any
supporting documentation via the Help file on Redirect. What I would like to
do  is  when  I get an email from a particular sender, 'bounce' it back with
their name as the sender but from me.

Is this possible?

  

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Default for S/MIME certificates

2001-10-29 Thread Matthias Appel

Hello tbudl,

for one of my accounts I have two S/MIME certificates installed. Now I
want to change the default certificate and I wonder how to manage
this.

Is there any chance to modify the default within TB? Or is there maybe
a key in the registry which I can modify?

My first thought was to have a look in the account properties but I
found nothing :-( and the help doesn't help me at all )-:

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still can't find info on syncing addressbook (TB/Palm)

2001-10-29 Thread Roberto Machorro

Saturday, October 27, 2001, 5:18:43 PM, you wrote:
BC Hi Roberto,

Hi Brian, thanks for your time.

BC http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/howdoi.html
BC Check out the top of the page. :-)
BC Lots of other goodies here:
BC http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com

I searched through all of the =. I only found how to sync e-mail
with the Palm, which I had already done. But no sign on how to sync
with the Addressbook. On a side note, I liked the system (BrainStorm)
used for arranging all of the information.

BC I can't stand pointing this out, but please start a new thread (a new
BC message) when asking a question. You didn't even bother a trim off
BC someone else's reply to someone else's question. :-\

As a new user to The Bat, I just began exploring the *huge* amount of
features it has. The view you explained is perfect for high volume
mailing lists, very smart.

So, I appoligize for messing up ;) the list. I thought that just
changing the subject would be enough to start a new thread, looks like
TB is smarter than that :)


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Re: Mesage dupes after changing time

2001-10-29 Thread David van Zuijlekom

Hello David,

Sunday, October 28, 2001, 2:02:43 PM, you wrote:

[...]
DvZ I can reproduce it every time. If I change 'Delete messages from
DvZ server' to 'leave messages on server for x days', and after some
DvZ time I change it back to 'Delete messages on server' TB!
DvZ downloads all the messages on the server again. Now I have a
DvZ bunch of dupes, that's normal. But if I press kill dupes, TB!
DvZ finds no dupes.

Is there really nobody except for me and Chema who can confirm this?
For me it's an really annoying bug and I really would like to see it
fixed because it happens to me a lot. I tested it on another machine
this day and could successfully confirm it.

Can someone please try to reproduce the bug so we could write a bug
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Re: Keyboard Shortcut

2001-10-29 Thread Nick Danger

Subject: Keyboard Shortcut
   From: Januk Aggarwal
~~

Hello Januk,

 Argh!  This is TB, don't say not possible.  ;-)
 It isn't exactly what you asked for, but there is an option to change
 focus to a predefined Account and/or Folder.  Make a Windows shortcut
 for TB with the /FOCUS command-line parameter.  That will take you to
 the folder of your choice when you run the shortcut, regardless of if
 TB is open or not.

Works perfectly!  My thanks to you yet again Januk!  Keep this up and
I'll need to put you on my payroll.

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Re: Question: Redirect/Forward

2001-10-29 Thread Roelof Otten

Hallo Miles,

MA What  is  the  difference  between  Redirect and Forward.

Redirect is to send a message to another destination without changing
the body of the e-mail. (Technically this is done by placing the new
address in the To: header. Since you're not supposed to send mail with
a false From: header your mail client has to insert a Sender: header
or as TB does an X-Sender: header. Only visible to those who look at
the RFC-822 headers.) The To: header will change.

Forwarding is to send a message to another destination by including
the message into a new message in which you state something like:
'Look what a great message I got from somebody at sometime'.

MA Have not found any
MA supporting documentation via the Help file on Redirect. What I would like to
MA do  is  when  I get an email from a particular sender, 'bounce' it back with
MA their name as the sender but from me.

MA Is this possible?

Yep, that's what redirecting does. But he won't know it's the message
he sent to you, since he's in the To: header and not you.
Note that the Message-ID wil be changed, the Date will be different
and the X-Sender will be inserted, so if he knows his stuff he'll see
it, but your average spammer won't care.
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Re: Mesage dupes after changing time

2001-10-29 Thread Dwight A Corrin

On Monday, October 29, 2001, 4:05:06 PM, David van Zuijlekom wrote:

 Is there really nobody except for me and Chema who can confirm this?
 For me it's an really annoying bug and I really would like to see it
 fixed because it happens to me a lot. I tested it on another machine
 this day and could successfully confirm it.

 Can someone please try to reproduce the bug so we could write a bug
 report.

I just tried it on an account which is low traffic. Downloaded 24
messages. Killed 5 dupes. Deleted a large number of junk mail which
had already been deleted once. Had one message left which was a dupe,
but it had different creation times, an hour apart, presumably due to
the time change between receptions.

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Re: still can't find info on syncing addressbook (TB/Palm)

2001-10-29 Thread Brian Clark

Hi Roberto,

@ 4:19:11 PM on 10/29/2001, Roberto Machorro wrote:

RM I searched through all of the =. I only found how to sync e-mail
RM with the Palm, which I had already done. But no sign on how to
RM sync with the Addressbook.

Sorry I couldn't help you more on that; I guess my mail turned out to
not be very helpful AND turned out to be possibly insulting. I hope I
didn't ruin your day. I really didn't mean to.

I've used Palm before, but I've never really been that deep into it.

RM On a side note, I liked the system (BrainStorm) used for arranging
RM all of the information.

One of our moderators, Marck D. Pearlstone, is responsible for the FAQ
and the software that produces it. He should be applauded for all of
his hard work, indeed. :-) I could not imagine how much time he's
spent helping all of us on- and off-list. (Let's not forget many many
others! Hopefully you'll get a chance to get to know them if you get
to know TB!.)

RM So, I appoligize for messing up ;) the list. I thought that just
RM changing the subject would be enough to start a new thread, looks
RM like TB is smarter than that :)

Yep. :-) Most email clients (RFC friendly ones, at least) use
In-Reply-To and References headers to do that sort of thing. Use the
key combination Ctrl+Shift+K, or go to View - RFC-822 headers, and
have a look at the Kludges.

If there's something you're wanting to do and you can't figure it out,
ask the list because chances are it can be done. I haven't really
wanted for much since I started using TB! last October.

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Re[2]: Question: Redirect/Forward

2001-10-29 Thread Miles Alexander

Hello Roelof,

Historians believe that on Monday, October 29, 2001, at 6:16:30 PM, was when,
Roelof typed the following:

RO Hallo Miles,

MA What  is  the  difference  between  Redirect and Forward.

RO Redirect is to send a message to another destination without changing
RO the body of the e-mail. (Technically this is done by placing the new
RO address in the To: header. Since you're not supposed to send mail with
RO a false From: header your mail client has to insert a Sender: header
RO or as TB does an X-Sender: header. Only visible to those who look at
RO the RFC-822 headers.) The To: header will change.

RO Forwarding is to send a message to another destination by including
RO the message into a new message in which you state something like:
RO 'Look what a great message I got from somebody at sometime'.

MA Have not found any

Tried experimenting with the Redirect:

Sent email to myself from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

When  I  click  on  the  Redirect button, the email comes up with my sending
address  ([EMAIL PROTECTED])  in  the  FROM  field with the TO field
BLANK.

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Re: Question: Redirect/Forward

2001-10-29 Thread Roelof Otten

Hallo Miles,

Op dinsdag 30 oktober 2001, 0:24:49, schreef jij:

MA Tried experimenting with the Redirect:

MA Sent email to myself from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MAto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

MA When  I  click  on  the  Redirect button, the email comes up with my sending
MA address  ([EMAIL PROTECTED])  in  the  FROM  field with the TO field
MA BLANK.

Well, that's what I said didn't I? The new destination is in the To:
header, so when pressing the redirect button the To: field is empty,
because you haven't told TB who's the new recipient.

Actually I thought you wanted to redirect via a filter and then the
To: field is automatically substituted.

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Re[2]: Question: Redirect/Forward

2001-10-29 Thread Miles Alexander

Hello Roelof,

Historians believe that on Monday, October 29, 2001, at 6:16:30 PM, was when,
Roelof typed the following:

RO Hallo Miles,

MA What  is  the  difference  between  Redirect and Forward.

RO Redirect is to send a message to another destination without changing
RO the body of the e-mail. (Technically this is done by placing the new
RO address in the To: header. Since you're not supposed to send mail with
RO a false From: header your mail client has to insert a Sender: header
RO or as TB does an X-Sender: header. Only visible to those who look at
RO the RFC-822 headers.) The To: header will change.

RO Forwarding is to send a message to another destination by including
RO the message into a new message in which you state something like:
RO 'Look what a great message I got from somebody at sometime'.

MA Have not found any

Appeared  to  work better when the ID was one other than residing within The
Bat!. I sent a test email from my Hotmail account and all went well.

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Re[2]: Question: Redirect/Forward

2001-10-29 Thread Miles Alexander

Hello Roelof,

Historians believe that on Monday, October 29, 2001, at 7:26:12 PM, was when,
Roelof typed the following:

RO Hallo Miles,

RO Op dinsdag 30 oktober 2001, 0:24:49, schreef jij:

MA Tried experimenting with the Redirect:

MA Sent email to myself from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MAto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

MA When  I  click  on  the  Redirect button, the email comes up with my sending
MA address  ([EMAIL PROTECTED])  in  the  FROM  field with the TO field
MA BLANK.

RO Well, that's what I said didn't I? The new destination is in the To:
RO header, so when pressing the redirect button the To: field is empty,
RO because you haven't told TB who's the new recipient.

I  think we understand each other but I do agree it would be best for you to
get some rest...

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Re: Recovering Folders

2001-10-29 Thread Allie C Martin

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ACM LOL! It is, isn't it? . once you understand it ... as with
ACM everything else.

R Can I delete the folders with 000 after I have changed registry 

Yes. you'll be able to delete them.

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Re: Clicking on mailto: link in browser gives two msg windows

2001-10-29 Thread Raj

Don,

On Mon, 29 Oct 2001, at 11:54:03 [GMT -0500] (which was 22:24 where I live) you
wrote:

DZ Clicking on a mailto: link in Internet Explorer opens up two message
DZ editing windows in the Bat. Has anyone else experienced this behavior?

Have you checked the Mouse Properties in Control Panel. Maybe you need to adjust the 
speed
of clicking.

Just a thought.


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Re[2]: Recovering Folders

2001-10-29 Thread Raj

Allie,

On Mon, 29 Oct 2001, at 21:11:53 [GMT -0500] (which was 07:41 where I live) you
wrote:

ACM Yes. you'll be able to delete them.

Thanks  to  all  especially  Marck,  JanAllie.  I  am  back  to  where I was 
before I
re-installed W2K.

Thanks guys.

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Re: Mesage dupes after changing time

2001-10-29 Thread Thomas F

Hi David,

On Mon, 29 Oct 2001 23:05:06 +0100GMT (30/10/2001, 06:05 +0800GMT),
David van Zuijlekom wrote:

DvZ I can reproduce it every time. If I change 'Delete messages from
DvZ server' to 'leave messages on server for x days', and after some
DvZ time I change it back to 'Delete messages on server' TB!
DvZ downloads all the messages on the server again. Now I have a
DvZ bunch of dupes, that's normal. But if I press kill dupes, TB!
DvZ finds no dupes.

DvZ Is there really nobody except for me and Chema who can confirm this?

For some reason, TB does not find the dupes when the time has changed
from daylight savings to standard between the downloads. I think this
has been established, that's why you didn't get more me-too's.

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Character Encoding / Fonts

2001-10-29 Thread Han Thomas

Hello,

[Yes I did check the archives... :) ]

I sometimes have to read and send emails in Thai. Thai is just like Greek
or Cyrillic in that it consists of ordinary single byte high ascii characters.

I have added 'Thai' as an entry in the XLAT window. I think the charset is
Windows-874 but I'm not completely sure.  I chose 'Thai' for the font
script.

Now with the fonts I'm getting into trouble, because it seems The Bat only
allows Monospaced (Fixed Pitch) fonts, and these fonts typically can't
display Thai. (With the exception of 'FixedSys' but this font looks
horrible and spacing is all wrong in Thai; it's readable though).

Is there a way to use variable pitch fonts in The Bat (Tahoma would be a
good choice), and is there a way to quickly switch without having to change
the font in the editor preferences for the whole program? Ideally, I would
just switch the encoding from 'Latin' to 'Thai', where Thai would be
defined as using the Tahoma font.

Possible?

Thanks a lot in advance!!!

Han.


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Re: Character Encoding / Fonts

2001-10-29 Thread Jernej Simoni

Hello Han,

30. oktober 2001, 6:14:37, you wrote:

HT Is there a way to use variable pitch fonts in The Bat (Tahoma would be a
HT good choice), and is there a way to quickly switch without having to change
HT the font in the editor preferences for the whole program? Ideally, I would
HT just switch the encoding from 'Latin' to 'Thai', where Thai would be
HT defined as using the Tahoma font.

The Bat! can use variable pitch fonts only in the latest beta versions
(with the RTF viewer). You can get them from the beta-testers only
area of the site. Note, that it's slower than normal viewer, and
still has some issues.

BTW: you may try to edit the registry, and manually change fonts, but
the results are usually very ugly :)

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Re: Character Encoding / Fonts

2001-10-29 Thread Dierk Haasis

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Hello Han!

On Tuesday, October 30, 2001 at 6:14:37 AM you wrote:

 Now with the fonts I'm getting into trouble, because it seems The Bat only
 allows Monospaced (Fixed Pitch) fonts, and these fonts typically can't
 display Thai. (With the exception of 'FixedSys' but this font looks
 horrible and spacing is all wrong in Thai; it's readable though).

for the time being you will have to work with either FixedSys or
another Thai font you may find on the Internet - as long as it is a
fixed pitch font. It is whispered that TB! v.2 will leave it to the
user to use either fixed pitch or proportional fonts. (Even better
would be to leave it to the user to mix them in a message ...)

BTW, yours is the first sensible use for proportional fonts in e-mail
I ever saw ... even if it is only for cosmetic purposes.



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Re[2]: Character Encoding / Fonts

2001-10-29 Thread Han Thomas

Hello Jernej,

On Tuesday, October 30, 2001, 2:39:24 PM, you wrote some things about
Character Encoding / Fonts to which I would like to add the following:

HT Is there a way to use variable pitch fonts in The Bat (Tahoma would be a
HT good choice), and is there a way to quickly switch without having to change
HT the font in the editor preferences for the whole program? Ideally, I would
HT just switch the encoding from 'Latin' to 'Thai', where Thai would be
HT defined as using the Tahoma font.

JS The Bat! can use variable pitch fonts only in the latest beta versions
JS (with the RTF viewer). You can get them from the beta-testers only
JS area of the site. Note, that it's slower than normal viewer, and
JS still has some issues.

Ok,  I'll try that.. I don't receive *that* many emails in Thai anyway, and
my  current  e-mail  software (Forte Agent) doesn't show it fully automatic
either.

Normally  I  try  to  stay as far away from HTML/RTF in email as I can spit
it..  I  assume  this  RTF  mode  can  be switched off easily when it's not
needed?  Basically  all  I  need  is  to  temporarily switch to a font like
Tahoma, only when doing stuff in Thai language.

The  Thai  encoding in The Bat! already seems to work; if I write ÀÒÉÒä·Â
and  encode this message as 'Thai (Windows-874)' then a recipient using for
example Outlook (curses!) sees it in Thai just fine.

JS BTW: you may try to edit the registry, and manually change fonts, but
JS the results are usually very ugly :)

:-] Evil Grin... :)

Cheers,
Han.

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Re: Mesage dupes after changing time

2001-10-29 Thread Chema Berian

Hello Listers, 

On  Sun, 28 Oct 2001, at 12:47:29 [GMT +0100] (which was 12:47 where I
live) Chema wrote:

CB As  I  can  see  by  pressing F9, no ID have changed. Messages are
CB identical at all.

 Not  exactly  identical,  they  have different creation dates (1 hour
 different), *reported by TB in message list* but...

 ...viewing message's source (F9) they are identical.

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