Re: Should I stay or should I go...?

2003-01-15 Thread John Phillips
Hi Andy, On Tue, 14 Jan 2003, at 15:11:56 [GMT -] (which was 02:11 where I live) you wrote: OK, assuming you've not filtered out my email completely because I'm using Outlook 2000 :-), I have a question (or two). I've just found The Bat!, test-installed it (latest as of yesterday, 1.62

Re: Should I stay or should I go...?

2003-01-15 Thread Clive Taylor
Hello Julian JBL I still use Outlook for my contacts JBL and diary (I have not got round to finding a suitable replacement that JBL will work with my Palm) What's wrong with Palm's own desktop? Needs vary, but I switched from Outllok to this and find it more effective and easier to use --

Re: Should I stay or should I go...?

2003-01-15 Thread Miguel A. Urech
Hello Dave, Wow! 2 years of TBing for me, and I had no idea this existed! I don't know if it was here or in TBBETA that someone said recently that it takes about 10 years to become aware of all TB capabilities. ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61

Re: Should I stay or should I go...?

2003-01-15 Thread Clive Taylor
Hello John JP One major problem (IMO - your needs may vary) is the inability to have JP recurring tasks. You can set events to repeat at regular intervals but, I agree, there's no way to automate irregular future commitments. -- Clive Taylor Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition

Re[2]: Should I stay or should I go...?

2003-01-15 Thread Mark Partous
Hello John, Wednesday, January 15, 2003, 9:07:43 AM, you wrote: JP However, trying to import the Outlook address book - forget it. I JP found it easier to update the Bat! address book from an Outlook print JP out. JP (Best e-mail move I have ever made - YMMV) You could have save yourself a

Bat v2?

2003-01-15 Thread Ben Keeley
Hi, Does anyone know when the BAT v2 is going to be out? I've been holding back from buying the Bat so as to wait for v2. Does anyone else have problems with the auto format when do lists? When I try and do a list (see below) auto formatting ends up putting them all on the same line? Apple

Re: Tmp files

2003-01-15 Thread Daniel Grunberg
Tue, 14 Jan 2003 11:27:30 [GMT -0500] (11:27 AM EST here) Spike wrote: Hello fellow tbudl'ers, I have been exploring my drive for wasted file space and have discovered 324 files in; C:\WINDOWS\TEMP The files are MOSTLY '0-byte' empty files, but there are 14 that are between 21 and 45MB

Re: How to add CC list in forward mails

2003-01-15 Thread Daniel Grunberg
Tue, 14 Jan 2003 15:52:26 [GMT +0100] (9:52 AM EST here) Roelof Otten wrote: Hallo Biju, On Thu, 30 Jan 2003 14:31:31 -0800GMT (30-1-03, 23:31 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: BN what i want is BAT should automatically pick up the CC list when i BN am forwarding the mail Do you mean

Re: How to add CC list in forward mails

2003-01-15 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Daniel, @15-Jan-2003, 09:25 -0500 (14:25 UK time) Daniel Grunberg [DG] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: DG Particularly in this computer age, doesn't cc stand for DG copies? Compare cc to pp, which always has stood for DG pages.

Re: Issue with In-Box Filters

2003-01-15 Thread Richard H. Stoddard
Thanks for the info. I used the actions tab, and set both a flag and the color group. On a test message, it did set the flag properly, but not the color. Perhaps just a problem unique to me? Wednesday, January 15, 2003, 8:07:53 AM, TF wrote: TF OK, here is the confusion. Action and Advanced

Re: Tmp files

2003-01-15 Thread Miguel A. Urech
Hello Daniel, (Almost every time is because when I reboot, as I must, after using VirusScan's UPDATE button McAfee ViruScan won't update if the temporary files are deleted.) What version of viruscan are you using? I use version 6 and it doesn't need a reboot after updating. -- Best regards,

Re: Bat v2?

2003-01-15 Thread Miguel A. Urech
Hello Ben, Does anyone else have problems with the auto format when do lists? Yes, that is why I normally have Auto Format off. It can be easily toggled with Shift+Ctrl+F when needed. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61

Re: Issue with In-Box Filters

2003-01-15 Thread Gerard
ON Wednesday, January 15, 2003, 3:45:48 PM, you wrote: RHS Thanks for the info. I used the actions tab, and set both a flag and RHS the color group. On a test message, it did set the flag properly, but RHS not the color. Perhaps just a problem unique to me? Hi Richard, There is a know

Re[2]: Should I stay or should I go...? (PIM's; OT)

2003-01-15 Thread Joseph N.
John, On Wednesday, January 15, 2003, John Phillips wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: JP One major problem (IMO - your needs may vary) is the inability to have JP recurring tasks. I missed the earlier parts of this thread, so this reply may be totally off the mark, but I

Re: Tmp files

2003-01-15 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Daniel, On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 09:18:18 -0500 GMT (15/01/03, 21:18 +0700 GMT), Daniel Grunberg wrote: To make a long story short, I've used Hardware Hell's suggestions in my autoexec.bat file. Deleting the files almost every time my system starts helps to keep my computer running

Re: Bat v2?

2003-01-15 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Ben, On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 13:06:17 + GMT (15/01/03, 20:06 +0700 GMT), Ben Keeley wrote: Does anyone know when the BAT v2 is going to be out? I've been holding back from buying the Bat so as to wait for v2. You'd better not hold your breath. Your trial period will be over before v2 is

Re: Issue with In-Box Filters

2003-01-15 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Richard, On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 09:45:48 -0500 GMT (15/01/03, 21:45 +0700 GMT), Richard H. Stoddard wrote: Thanks for the info. I used the actions tab, and set both a flag and the color group. On a test message, it did set the flag properly, but not the color. Perhaps just a problem

invalid HTML

2003-01-15 Thread justino . mora
miércoles, 15 de enero de 2003 12:53:32 pm Invalid HTML ! Please forward this message to developers. Thanks. EAccessViolation Access violation at address 0040501B in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 017D8000

Re[2]: Bat v2?

2003-01-15 Thread Ben Keeley
Hi, Is there a specific reason the bat behaves like this as appose to other email clients? Thanks Ben Hello Ben, Does anyone else have problems with the auto format when do lists? Yes, that is why I normally have Auto Format off. It can be easily toggled with Shift+Ctrl+F when needed.

Re: invalid HTML

2003-01-15 Thread Marek Mikus
On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Invalid HTML ! Please forward this message to developers. Thanks. EAccessViolation Access violation at address 0040501B in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 017D8000 - Error continues to generate on Bat

Re: invalid HTML

2003-01-15 Thread Daniel Rail
Hello justino, Wednesday, January 15, 2003, 12:54:50 PM, you wrote: miércoles, 15 de enero de 2003 12:53:32 pm Invalid HTML ! Please forward this message to developers. Thanks. EAccessViolation Access

Re: Bat v2?

2003-01-15 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Ben, @15-Jan-2003, 17:04 Ben Keeley [BK] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Does anyone else have problems with the auto format when do lists? Yes, that is why I normally have Auto Format off. It can be easily toggled with

Re: Tmp files

2003-01-15 Thread Daniel Grunberg
Wed, 15 Jan 2003 22:52:03 [GMT +0700] (10:52 AM EST here) Thomas Fernandez wrote: Hello Daniel, On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 09:18:18 -0500 GMT (15/01/03, 21:18 +0700 GMT), Daniel Grunberg wrote: To make a long story short, I've used Hardware Hell's suggestions in my autoexec.bat file. Deleting the

Re[2]: invalid HTML

2003-01-15 Thread justino . mora
miércoles, 15 de enero de 2003 1:29:15 pm Hello Marek, Wednesday, January 15, 2003, 1:06:21 PM, you wrote: MM 1.62e was not officially released, it has Beta status.

Re: Tmp files

2003-01-15 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Daniel, On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 09:18:18 -0500 GMT (15/01/03, 21:18 +0700 GMT), Daniel Grunberg wrote: I found an article Deleting Temporary Files Painlessly, at http://hardwarehell.com/bootclean.shtml I get a 404. Which link do I have to use from http://hardwarehell.com/index.shtml ? --

Re[2]: Tmp files

2003-01-15 Thread Spike
Hello Thomas, On or about Wednesday, January 15, 2003 at 00:44:26GMT +0700 (which was 12:44 PM in the tropics where I live) Thomas Fernandez queried: TF Hello Daniel, TF I get a 404. Which link do I have to use from TF http://hardwarehell.com/index.shtml ?

Purchasing + upgrades?

2003-01-15 Thread Ben Keeley
Hi, Just wondering... If I were to purchase the bat now before v2 is released would I get a free upgrade or would I have to purchase another license? Thanks Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information:

Virus Plugins

2003-01-15 Thread Timothy Casten
What Virus Plug-in do you all recommend for use with the Bat? -- Happy New Year, Timbo Timothy Casten mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ZDC Area 5 Rep. 703.606.2379 NATCA National Communications Chairman NatcaNet Administrator Current version

Re: Bat v2?

2003-01-15 Thread Dave Gorman
Wednesday, January 15, 2003, 11:04:01 AM, Ben wrote: Is there a specific reason the bat behaves like this as appose to other email clients? TB!'s editor sees everything *not* separated by an empty line as belonging to one paragraph. I always leave auto-format off and reflow text with alt-L as

Re: Virus Plugins

2003-01-15 Thread Ramon L. Negron
TC What Virus Plug-in do you all recommend for use with the Bat? NAV 2003 works great with TB! Go NATCA!!! (ZSU) -- Ramon L. Negron (Cuco) Air Traffic Controllers tell pilots where to go! PATCO Lives! Current version is 1.62 | Using

Re: Virus Plugins

2003-01-15 Thread Mike Alexander
Hello Timothy, Wednesday, January 15, 2003, 5:58:20 PM, you wrote: TC What Virus Plug-in do you all recommend for use with the Bat? Personally, Norton but YMMV. :) -- Best regards, Mike Current version is

Sorting Office

2003-01-15 Thread Adam
Do you think we could sort the Sorting Rules somehow? One sort is the order in which they were added. Another is alphabetical order. Another might be hierarchical grouping. Does the Sorting Office note the date a filter was added? Somewhere outside of the interface maybe. I would always like to

Re: Sorting Office

2003-01-15 Thread Jonathan Angliss
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, January 15, 2003, Adam wrote... Do you think we could sort the Sorting Rules somehow? If you change the order of the sorting rules, you change the order in which they are applied. That could have a disastrous affect in some

Re[2]: Virus Plugins

2003-01-15 Thread Timothy Casten
I have tried NAV 2002 and 2003 and have a problem with timeouts due to its e-mail scanning. The problem is that I maintain both of NATCAS big Internet servers. One we use as a e-mail server running mailsite and the other as a web server. We use sieve filters for virus protection in the e-mail

Re[2]: Sorting Office

2003-01-15 Thread Spike
Hello Jonathan list, On or about Wednesday, January 15, 2003 at 13:18:05GMT -0600 (which was 2:18 PM in the tropics where I live) Jonathan Angliss murmured: Do you think we could sort the Sorting Rules somehow? JA If you change the order of the sorting rules, you change the JA order in which

Re[3]: invalid HTML

2003-01-15 Thread Daniel Rail
Hello justino, Wednesday, January 15, 2003, 1:29:36 PM, you wrote: miércoles, 15 de enero de 2003 1:29:15 pm Hello Marek, Wednesday, January 15, 2003, 1:06:21 PM, you wrote:

Re: Sorting Office

2003-01-15 Thread Adam
Hello Jonathan, Wednesday, January 15, 2003, 3:48:05 PM, you wrote: JA On Wednesday, January 15, 2003, Adam wrote... Do you think we could sort the Sorting Rules somehow? JA If you change the order of the sorting rules, you change the order JA in which they are applied. That could have a

Re[2]: Sorting Office

2003-01-15 Thread Daniel Rail
Hello Jonathan, Wednesday, January 15, 2003, 3:18:05 PM, you wrote: On Wednesday, January 15, 2003, Adam wrote... Do you think we could sort the Sorting Rules somehow? If you change the order of the sorting rules, you change the order in which they are applied. That could have a

Re: Sorting Office

2003-01-15 Thread Jonathan Angliss
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, January 15, 2003, Adam wrote... Do you think we could sort the Sorting Rules somehow? JA If you change the order of the sorting rules, you change the JA order in which they are applied. That could have a disastrous JA affect in some

Re: Sorting Office

2003-01-15 Thread Jonathan Angliss
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, January 15, 2003, Daniel Rail wrote... Do you think we could sort the Sorting Rules somehow? If you change the order of the sorting rules, you change the order in which they are applied. That could have a disastrous affect in some

Re: Purchasing + upgrades?

2003-01-15 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Ben, @15-Jan-2003, 17:54 Ben Keeley [BK] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: BK Just wondering... If I were to purchase the bat now before v2 is BK released would I get a free upgrade or would I have to purchase BK another license?

Re: Virus Plugins

2003-01-15 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Timothy, @15-Jan-2003, 12:58 -0500 (17:58 UK time) Timothy Casten [TC] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: TC What Virus Plug-in do you all recommend for use with the Bat? I use AVG. I recommend NOD32 and Kaspersky(?) as better

Re: invalid HTML

2003-01-15 Thread Haico
On 15-1-2003 at 20:49, Daniel Rail wrote: The same goes for version 1.62h that I mentioned in my message, that one too is a beta version of an upcoming release. It's just that they probably haven't decided what the official version number will be for that release. 1.63 is currently in its

Re[2]: Purchasing + upgrades?

2003-01-15 Thread Erwan CHAUTY
I've bought my license from French dealer malka www.malka.com ; they told me that licenses bought after decembre 2002 would be valid for TheBat v2.0 Erwan. Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information:

Re: Tmp files

2003-01-15 Thread Daniel Grunberg
Wed, 15 Jan 2003 16:17:48 [GMT +0100] (10:17 AM EST here) Miguel A. Urech wrote: Hello Daniel, (Almost every time is because when I reboot, as I must, after using VirusScan's UPDATE button McAfee ViruScan won't update if the temporary files are deleted.) What version of viruscan are you

Re[3]: Purchasing + upgrades?

2003-01-15 Thread Spike
Hello Erwan CHAUTY, On or about Wednesday, January 15, 2003 at 22:07:03GMT +0100 (which was 4:07 PM in the tropics where I live) Erwan CHAUTY whispered: EC I've bought my license from French dealer malka www.malka.com ; they EC told me that licenses bought after decembre 2002 would be valid for

Re: Bat v2?

2003-01-15 Thread Wolffe
On Wednesday, January 15, 2003 Marck D Pearlstone stated: MDP This may be a shame, because many newcomers that at first complained MDP and kicked against the way the editor works are now devout fans of MDP what is actually a very appropriate editor for the purpose. It has a MDP learning curve and

Re: Tmp files

2003-01-15 Thread Daniel Grunberg
Thu, 16 Jan 2003 00:44:26 [GMT +0700] (12:44 PM EST Wed here) Thomas Fernandez wrote: Hello Daniel, On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 09:18:18 -0500 GMT (15/01/03, 21:18 +0700 GMT), Daniel Grunberg wrote: I found an article Deleting Temporary Files Painlessly, at http://hardwarehell.com/bootclean.shtml

Re[3]: Should I stay or should I go...?

2003-01-15 Thread Deborah W
On Tuesday, January 14, 2003, 11:04:58 PM, Peter Kerekes wrote: PK Try Time and Chaos http://www.isbister.com/ I use it for a number PK of years. I've been using TC for only a few months, but I'll second the vote. It's terrific. I only downloaded it for comparison purposes - I was testing out a

Re[2]: invalid HTML

2003-01-15 Thread FJ de Bruin
Hello Daniel, Wednesday, January 15, 2003, 6:14:52 PM, you wrote: DR DR Get The Bat! 1.62h, the problem is supposed to be fixed. Where would I find that version? -- Best regards, FJ de Bruin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62 |

Re: Tmp files

2003-01-15 Thread Miguel A. Urech
Hello Daniel, I'm using an earlier version. When I update by pressing the Update button, I (almost?) always have to reboot to have the update take effect. Yes, I remember from earlier versions. That is one of the reasons I upgraded to v6, because it updates automatically and doesn't need a

Re: Purchasing + upgrades?

2003-01-15 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all, Wednesday, January 15, 2003, Spike wrote: EC I've bought my license from French dealer malka www.malka.com ; they EC told me that licenses bought after decembre 2002 would be valid for EC TheBat v2.0 Nice to know if true! I think I'll get the whole family their (6) licenses now!!

Re[2]: Sorting Office

2003-01-15 Thread Daniel Rail
Hello, Wednesday, January 15, 2003, 4:17:23 PM, you wrote: If the sort is only applied to the viewing of the list of filters, I wouldn't mind. But how do you sort on displayed, and not alter the order of affect? You'd then have to tag each filter with an order number, and have that

Re: invalid HTML

2003-01-15 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all, Wednesday, January 15, 2003, FJ de Bruin wrote: DR DR Get The Bat! 1.62h, the problem is supposed to be fixed. Where would I find that version? wait for official version, it will be relased very soon as I know. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz

Re: Sorting Office

2003-01-15 Thread Jonathan Angliss
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, January 15, 2003, Daniel Rail wrote... If the sort is only applied to the viewing of the list of filters, I wouldn't mind. But how do you sort on displayed, and not alter the order of affect? You'd then have to tag each filter with

Re[2]: How to add CC list in forward mails

2003-01-15 Thread Peter Kerekes
Hello Daniel, On January 15, 2003, 09:25, you wrote: DG Tue, 14 Jan 2003 15:52:26 [GMT +0100] (9:52 AM EST here) Roelof Otten DG wrote: DG An off-topic (arguably, smart-assed) question: DG Particularly in this computer age, doesn't cc stand for copies? DG Compare cc to pp, which always has

Re: Sorting Office

2003-01-15 Thread St - Musaic.Net
Do you think we could sort the Sorting Rules somehow? One sort is the order in which they were added. Another is alphabetical order. Dangerous! (...at least for me!) My rules are IF? THEN! ELSE!! based. Sorting then around alfabetically would be THEN what IF...HUH!? DOH! Another might be

Re: Sorting Office

2003-01-15 Thread St - Musaic.Net
I just couldn't imagine someone having around 100 filters under incoming and trying to manage them. I have 301 rules working hard for the money...on a PII233! / St Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information:

Re[3]: Virus Plugins

2003-01-15 Thread Mike Alexander
Hello Timothy, Wednesday, January 15, 2003, 7:25:39 PM, you wrote: TC I have tried NAV 2002 and 2003 and have a problem with timeouts due to its e-mail scanning. TC The problem is that I maintain both of NATCAS big Internet servers. TC One we use as a e-mail server running mailsite and the

Re[4]: Virus Plugins

2003-01-15 Thread Timothy Casten
I can do that in Mailsite also Mike. I can have it deliver the infected e-mail or deposit it in a folder on the server or do both. I just prefer downloading it every day. Just a preference of mine. -- Happy New Year, Timbo Timothy Casten mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ZDC Area 5 Rep.

Re: Tmp files

2003-01-15 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Daniel, On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 16:50:42 -0500 GMT (16/01/03, 04:50 +0700 GMT), Daniel Grunberg wrote: I'll copy the article and email it to you. I received your PM, thank you. It is a combination of the cleanup.bat file I lost and the file I have now. It misses the c:\tmp and c:\recycled

Re: Sorting Office

2003-01-15 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Adam, On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 16:26:14 -0330 GMT (16/01/03, 02:56 +0700 GMT), Adam wrote: If you could sort them, perhaps hierachically, or hiding some elements, you could have a better overview of the Rule set that you created, and easier to maintain, and update. I'm referring to their

Re[2]: Sorting Office

2003-01-15 Thread Cliff
Hi Thomas, If you could sort them, perhaps hierachically, or hiding some elements, you could have a better overview of the Rule set that you created, and easier to maintain, and update. I'm referring to their user display, not internal rule list. TF Oh please, no. The order of the display

Re[2]: Bat v2?

2003-01-15 Thread Bruno Fernandes
The new 1.63 beta introduces an experimental Windows style editor that uses soft formatting. You won't catch me using it - I like to know that what I see in the message edit window is what will be sent :-), but it may suit some newcomers I'm just trying the new version now (1.63b4). Once

Re: Sorting Office

2003-01-15 Thread St - Musaic.Net
I vote for leaving it the way it is too. I am not against today's order of display, either (rules sorted in the order they are processed) - BUT it would certainly be nice if one could group related rules: Instead of VirusShield Spamvestigater (Virus) VirusShield SpamCop detected

Development Focus

2003-01-15 Thread Joseph N.
Marek, On Wednesday, January 15, 2003, Marek Mikus wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: DR Get The Bat! 1.62h, the problem is supposed to be fixed. Where would I find that version? MM wait for official version, it will be relased very soon as I know Why is RITlabs producing

Re: Bat v2?

2003-01-15 Thread Allie Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Bruno Fernandes [BF] wrote:' The new 1.63 beta introduces an experimental Windows style editor that uses soft formatting. You won't catch me using it - I like to know that what I see in the message edit

Re[2]: Sorting Office

2003-01-15 Thread Cliff
Hi St, Now that I can see what you had in mind - I like it! Actually, I'd prefer a plain external text file with the rules in execution order. (Makes sharing of rules very easy to do.) TB reads the text file and presents the default view which would be execution order. It'd have a couple

Re[2]: Sorting Office

2003-01-15 Thread Spike
Hello St - Musaic.Net, On or about Wednesday, January 15, 2003 at 05:38:13GMT +0100 (which was 11:38 PM in the tropics where I live) St - Musaic.Net opined: SMN I am not against today's order of display, either (rules sorted SMN in the order they are processed) - BUT it would certainly be

Re: Virus Plugins

2003-01-15 Thread 3w
Wednesday, January 15, 2003, 6:58:20 PM, you wrote: What Virus Plug-in do you all recommend for use with the Bat? I used the following software in the past 2 years, each of it for a longer period of time, all full versions: G Data Antiviren Kit 11 Great software, test winner in c't and