Re[2]: something wrong with thebat tech mailing list?

2003-09-10 Thread Wilfried Mestdagh
Hello Marck, MDP That question in particular is probably better suited to TBBETA. (he MDP said, cryptically). Thx, will try there first. -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6

Re[3]: some threads not sorted as threads

2003-09-10 Thread Wilfried Mestdagh
Hello Vishal, V That doesn't seem right. I've often deleted the root message only to see many V properly threaded replies the next day. It's only since I installed v2 that this V is happening. Whell I never had it before eather. On some mailing list I only keep messages for 1 day. I upgraded

Re: zonealarm and automatic mail checks - works for anyone?

2003-09-10 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 5:40:47 AM, Vishal wrote: Ok, great. I just automatic mail checking with NO firewall installed and it still doesn't work. I'm using the eval version of 2.0.0.6. It looks like ZA wasn't to blame after all. What could be wrong? Is it something to do with the

Re: zonealarm and automatic mail checks - works for anyone?

2003-09-10 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 4:50:29 AM, Vishal wrote: Not yet. I'm aware of it though and someone else just brought it to my attention as well. I'll definitely keep it in mind if I can't get BlackICE to work. Thanks. I used BlackIce for a number of years, before finally ditching it in

Re[2]: HTML as default on v2.00 ...........?

2003-09-10 Thread FJ de Bruin
Hello Marck, Tuesday, September 9, 2003, 3:11:20 PM, you wrote: MDP HTML was *never* developed or intended for use as a formatting MDP system for email. It is a presentation system for served pages, MDP intended for transmission with the HyperText Transfer Protocol MDP (HTTP, yes?). Mail is

Re:Odd mini Bat2 Bug with window minimisation

2003-09-10 Thread znark
G'day Anne, On Tue, 09 Sep 2003, at 19:20:43 [GMT +0100] (04:20 here) you wrote: A Tuesday, September 9, 2003, 6:51:56 PM, Mark wrote: M The standard windows keyboard shortcut for minimising all open M windows in Winkey-M. All programs I have except the Bat main M window respond to this. Open

Re: some threads not sorted as threads

2003-09-10 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Wilfried, On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 09:10:31 +0200GMT (10-9-03, 9:10 +0200, where I live), you wrote: WM Whell I never had it before eather. On some mailing list I only WM keep messages for 1 day. I upgraded to v2 few days ago and just WM now I see that. Could be coincidence ? I suppose it's a

Re: Where did the subject go in these messages?

2003-09-10 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Dave, On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 19:57:38 -0500GMT (10-9-03, 2:57 +0200, where I live), you wrote: DG I've been noticing a strange thing recently. It probably started DG sometime within the last couple of betas and is now happening on DG v2 as well. All emails from Allie Martin and a couple of

Re[2]: HTML as default on v2.00 ...........?

2003-09-10 Thread DG Raftery Sr.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tuesday, September 09, 2003 4:23:19 PM (GMT -05:00) RE: HTML as default on v2.00 ...? Greetings David, On Tuesday, September 9, 2003, 2:54:05 PM, you wrote: TF Your choice is costing me money. D And exactly how much extra is it costing

Re: Where did the subject go in these messages?

2003-09-10 Thread Chema Berian
Hello Roelof, On Sep, 10, 12:22:47, you wrote to Dave: RO Are the failing mails always from the same persons? I couldn't RO help noticing that Allie, Stuart and Chema all have a RO X-Spam-Processed: header in their kludges. First header in image was X-AV-Processed: which is inserted by my

Re: Odd mini Bat2 Bug with window minimisation

2003-09-10 Thread Mark L
Hello Mark, Tuesday, September 9, 2003, 6:51:56 PM, you wrote: M Dear Bats M Here is an odd bug. Can anyone verify. M I have the bat set to minimise to the taskbar (rather than the M system tray) although I doubt this makes a difference. M The standard windows keyboard shortcut for minimising

Re: some threads not sorted as threads

2003-09-10 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 10:56:44 AM, Roelof Otten wrote: I suppose it's a coincidence. Threads are being shown as full threads as long as there aren't any branches split from their common root. The ZoneAlarm thread you were mentioning had lots of separate branches that kept going

Re: Where did the subject go in these messages?

2003-09-10 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Chema, On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 12:40:49 +0200GMT (10-9-03, 12:40 +0200, where I live), you wrote: CB First header in image was X-AV-Processed: which is inserted by my CB server just below the X-Spam-Processed: So I noticed, but failed to mention. ;-) CB (I can confirm it does without

TB 2.00.6 not indicating new mail in folders

2003-09-10 Thread FJ de Bruin
Hello list, I am experiencing some problems with TB. It no longer shows that there is new e-mail. The account icon shows empty, the folder name is not printed in bold, the message ticker remains quiet. Only when I click on the folder that I know has new e-mail in it, TB wakes up and puts out all

Re[2]: Start up: The Bat balks

2003-09-10 Thread David R. Austen
Hello, Kim: Monday, September 8, 2003, 6:39:01 PM, you wrote: K I haven't seen a repeat of the problem yet, but I plan on trying your K workaround, if it happens. I also have always had the habit of making K regular backups, but considering the previous problem, I make those K backups even more

Re: HTML as default on v2.00 ...........?

2003-09-10 Thread MAU
Hello DG Raftery Sr., As you may have read a few days ago in a thread with subject My new 20 lines filter, you better start your text before line 20 or I will not read any of your messages (provided you care at all if I read them or not) ;-) -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1

Re: WARNING(virus check bypassed): Re[2]: HTML as default on v2.00 ...........? -- anyone else seeing this 'WARNING' prefix?

2003-09-10 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Pixie, On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 06:56:57 -0400GMT (10-9-03, 12:56 +0200, where I live), you wrote: MW Anyway, in digest mode the header on my message looks fine to me. P Does there happen to exist a command I can grab digests for the P last day or two? Not automatically. But you could ask

Re: TB 2.00.6 not indicating new mail in folders

2003-09-10 Thread Bill Blinn Technology Editor
It seems that FJ de Bruin said ... F I am experiencing some problems with TB. It no longer shows that there F is new e-mail. The account icon shows empty, the folder name is not F printed in bold, the message ticker remains quiet. Only when I click F on the folder that I know has new e-mail in

Re: Empty Folder

2003-09-10 Thread Gerrit Kruijer
Hello Dave, Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 2:59:45 AM, you wrote: Dave Hi TBUDLers, Dave I've noticed the Empty Folder function is considerably and Dave annoyingly slower in v2 than in the 1.63 beta series. Although Dave the progress indicator is nice. Dave Can anyone confirm? Well, not on

Re: zonealarm and automatic mail checks - works for anyone?

2003-09-10 Thread Allie Martin
Vishal, [V] wrote: V Well, as it will be sent, yes. At the other (receiving) end, messages V written in microEd using, say, Courier New, appear different when V viewed with a default font such as Verdana. Yes. You'll never really be able to get away from this. This is why a lot of editors will

Re[2]: TB 2.00.6 not indicating new mail in folders

2003-09-10 Thread Frank J de Bruin
Hello Bill, BBTE This is a bug. I've seen it and so have several others. RITLabs is aware of BBTE this and promises a fix. (No timetable for the fix.) In the meantime, you BBTE might install SOUNDS -- these seem to still work. Thanks for letting me know. Is there any site or page with 'known

Re: Message list headings

2003-09-10 Thread Allie Martin
Mau, [M] wrote: M Please take a look at: http://perso.wanadoo.es/murech/threads.htm M Does this happen also on V2.0? No, it doesn't. The colour groups names are displayed as they should be. -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html _ pgp0.pgp

Re: HTML as default on v2.00 ...........?

2003-09-10 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo MAU, On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 13:13:30 +0200GMT (10-9-03, 13:13 +0200, where I live), you wrote: M Note to moderators: Top-posting done on purpose I suppose that's even worse than doing out of ignorance. g -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version

Re[3]: TB 2.00.6 not indicating new mail in folders

2003-09-10 Thread Bill Blinn Technology Editor
It seems that Frank J de Bruin said ... F Thanks for letting me know. Is there any site or page with 'known F issues'? That would have saved me some time. I am reading this e-mail F list but following all threads is a all most a day time job. There's a bug tracker list or site (somebody who

Recursive wrapping

2003-09-10 Thread Stuart Hemming
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I've just got hold of Januk Aggarwal's recursive wrap QT from the archive site but it doesn't quite do what I was expecting/hoping for. If I have 2 long lines ... abcdef abcdef abcdef abcdef abcdef abcdef abcdef ... ghijk ghijk ghijk ghijk ghijk

Mail source and on-screen different ?

2003-09-10 Thread Cedric Fontaine
Bonjour ! For the second time, I discovered that the text showing in source message and what I have on-screen is different. The bat is printing recomrecommencer and the source message shows recommencer which is the right word from the mail. Now if I toggle from this message to another

Re: IMAP converted to POP on install.

2003-09-10 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Hi Olena, @9-Sep-2003, 22:00 -0600 (05:00 UK time) Olena [O] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: O I read somewhere, that in new ver install IMAP folders will be O converted to POP. Not quite. Before installing v2, *you* should convert any IMAP accounts to POP3. O IS there then a way to convert

Re[3]: Killing sobig on the server

2003-09-10 Thread Dave Kennedy
Tuesday, September 9, 2003, 9:15:04 PM, Gordon wrote: G For others, the problem seems to be that in the selective G download I can't see a way of specifying that the Details G heading be the *only* word in the subject line. In other words G to kill messages with a subject line that says Details

Re: HTML as default on v2.00 ...........?

2003-09-10 Thread MAU
Hello Roelof, On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 13:13:30 +0200GMT (10-9-03, 13:13 +0200, where I live), you wrote: Hey! Don't the minutes have seconds where you live? ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i

Re: Message list headings

2003-09-10 Thread MAU
Hello Allie, No, it doesn't. The colour groups names are displayed as they should be. Here too. My concern is about the position of + and - thread links. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current

Re[3]: HTML as default on v2.00 ...........?

2003-09-10 Thread Dave Kennedy
Tuesday, September 9, 2003, 9:50:52 PM, Vishal wrote: V Right. People like us on this list don't appreciate that. But V we aren't really representative of the majority. That is such a great point! (I wish I had made it. :) ) We techies so often forget that our view of the world is different than

Re[2]: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

2003-09-10 Thread Edgar
Hello Allen, A Because it DID download all. First time I checked my mail, I pulled A 100 messages. Ten minutes later, it refreshed . . . now, I have about A 2500 messages per group. A M Sorry, I have no idea why this may have happened. A A Nothing to apologize for, unless it was you who

Re[2]: HTML as default on v2.00 ...........?

2003-09-10 Thread Dave Kennedy
Tuesday, September 9, 2003, 5:43:27 PM, Allister wrote: A And if you can think of a case where this is so, could it be A better handled by posting a web page, or PDF file, or A attaching a PDF file to the email? 1. Acrobat Reader is not as universal as HTML even if it is a free download. 2.

Re[3]: HTML as default on v2.00 ...........?

2003-09-10 Thread Dave Kennedy
Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 4:29:36 AM, FJ wrote: F You're turning things around here. With all communications, F the presentation and formatting lies with the originator. This F is true for newspapers, slide show presentations, snail mail F letters, email, etc.. Ding, ding, ding!!! We have a

Re[2]: zonealarm and automatic mail checks - works for anyone?

2003-09-10 Thread Vishal
Hi Julian Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 3:35:32 AM, you wrote: JBL Application protection scanning was slow, Yes, I have complaints with that too. I don't even like the idea of using my existing system as a baseline. Even though I take great care with all my software, this still leaves me

Re: HTML as default on v2.00 ...........?

2003-09-10 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 2:49:12 PM, Dave Kennedy wrote: The Internet is becoming to be treated in the same manner as automobiles. I.e. I just want it to work and don't care how it works. This fits in quite well with the following bit of research:

Creating shortcuts?

2003-09-10 Thread mm Meister
Hi Bats, I just learned how to create a shortcut for 'mark messages all read' from this site: http://email.about.com/library/daily/et/02/12/bl_et120602.htm I didn't know it was so easy! So I made Shift+R to have messages all marked read, and shift+x to empty the folder. Now when I do

Mark a message read in the view folder

2003-09-10 Thread Edgar
Hi, When I read my mail in TB I use Message autoview or preview pane. In Account - Propertie - Options, I sellected Mark message as read only when it is open in a separate windows. I do not want the message to be marked read when viewing it in the preview pane. Now that I've joint this

Format Date Created in Preview Pane

2003-09-10 Thread Mike Dillinger
Hello, Is there any way I can format the Date Created display in the preview pane? I'd like it to be formatted for my time zone, if possible. Thanks, -MikeD Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information:

Re: HTML in the editor

2003-09-10 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Thomas, On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 00:35:39 +0700 GMT (10/09/2003, 00:35 +0700 GMT), Thomas Fernandez wrote: Hm. I tried to report a bug and got this message: Maintenance Time - 07 Sep 2003 04:17 - ray Bughtracker will be offline for maintenance from 4:30 CDT (11:30 GMT) some hours Click on

Re: Broken threads and general threading question

2003-09-10 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Jonathan, On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 23:36:54 -0500 GMT (10/09/2003, 11:36 +0700 GMT), Jonathan Angliss wrote: Is there a common thread as to who is sending them, or is it a bunch of people? Is there a common thread amongst them? I can see at least one example right away of a thread breaker on

Re: Line lengths and techniques for automatic adjustment

2003-09-10 Thread Urban
Tuesday, September 9, 2003, David R. Austen wrote: Anyway, my way of reducing such long lines to 70 characters in my reply/forward/redirect is a bit cumbersome. I don't to it line by line, but even paragraph by paragraph is irksome. It seems that if I do not, these lines will stay very long

Re: Quote Colors

2003-09-10 Thread Alexander
10-Sep-2003 07:09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Notice the lace of color in the second one (and the lack of the blue URL). I am using The Bat! 1.62r on Windows XP Professional SP1 Same here (but W2k-SP4). Since Anne has no problems, its seems to be a bug fixed in v2. -- Best regards,

Re: HTML as default on v2.00 ...........?

2003-09-10 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello David, On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 19:54:05 +0100 GMT (10/09/2003, 01:54 +0700 GMT), David Boggon wrote: TF Your choice is costing me money. D And exactly how much extra is it costing you? BBTE Does it matter? Doing something that you know costs someone else money is BBTE rude, even if it's no

Re: HTML as default on v2.00 ...........?

2003-09-10 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Dave, On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 09:49:12 -0400 GMT (10/09/2003, 20:49 +0700 GMT), Dave Kennedy wrote: The Internet is becoming to be treated in the same manner as automobiles. I.e. I just want it to work and don't care how it works. That is unfortunately true. See your own message about a

Re: TB 2.00.6 not indicating new mail in folders

2003-09-10 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Bill, On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 08:09:04 -0400 GMT (10/09/2003, 19:09 +0700 GMT), Bill Blinn Technology Editor wrote: There's a bug tracker list or site (somebody who knows will point you in the right direction). www.ritlabs.com/bt I just happened to be in a conversation with Stefan when I

Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

2003-09-10 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Edgar, On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 16:02:29 +0200 GMT (10/09/2003, 21:02 +0700 GMT), Edgar wrote: It would not be so bad if it happens just ones. But I've a group where he did download 10.000 messages again and again. When I used kill doubles he told me that he found around 20.000. What

Re: Format Date Created in Preview Pane

2003-09-10 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Mike, On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 08:49:07 -0700 GMT (10/09/2003, 22:49 +0700 GMT), Mike Dillinger wrote: Is there any way I can format the Date Created display in the preview pane? I'd like it to be formatted for my time zone, if possible. That date used to be shown in both time zones, the

Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

2003-09-10 Thread Martin Webster
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Thomas, Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 5:55:57 PM, you wrote: TF I'd like to find out. The newsserver I intend to use needs a TF subscription, and while I have applied, I still haven't got my TF user/pass. So if you can recommend a newsserver

Re: HTML as default on v2.00 ...........?

2003-09-10 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello FJ, On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 10:29:36 +0200 GMT (10/09/2003, 15:29 +0700 GMT), FJ de Bruin wrote: MDP HTML was *never* developed or intended for use as a formatting MDP system for email. You're turning things around here. No, he isn't. What he says is historical truth. Check google for Tim

maintenance centre settings does not persist

2003-09-10 Thread WL
Is there a way to make the maintenance centre settings ``stick'' between runs? It's nice that I can choose which folders to purge, etc, but not so nice if I have to reselect the same folders every time. WL Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL

Re: HTML as default on v2.00 ...........?

2003-09-10 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Bill, On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 19:28:01 -0400 GMT (10/09/2003, 06:28 +0700 GMT), Bill Blinn Technology Editor wrote: I'm one of the let's-avoid-HTML-mail folks, but I know that in those instances when I want to send mail that is formatted for presentation, HTML is the *only* way I can do it

Re[2]: Palm fronds and scuba diving

2003-09-10 Thread Dave Kennedy
Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 12:34:58 PM, Thomas wrote: T Send me a message with waving palms on the beach, and I'll T blacklist you... LOL! And then I'll probably suggest you come T and visit Thailand. ;-) I could do with seeing some waving palm fronds and blue water right about now. Vacation

Re: HTML as default on v2.00 ...........?

2003-09-10 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Dave, On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 10:04:02 -0400 GMT (10/09/2003, 21:04 +0700 GMT), Dave Kennedy wrote: 1. Acrobat Reader is not as universal as HTML even if it is a free download. It's only the reader than is free. 2. Posting something to a web page changes the paradigm from a push to

Re: Language

2003-09-10 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Andreas, On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 20:40:41 +0200 GMT (10/09/2003, 01:40 +0700 GMT), Andreas H Johannessen wrote: I have updated to The Bat v2 and by a mistake I lost the version 1.6 where I used the German Spell Checker and was very happy to have this service. I don't spell-check (oh,

expanding the height of the message header field?

2003-09-10 Thread Jurgen Haug
Hallo Fledermäuse, is there a way to expand the height of the message header field? The one to toggle with Shift+CTRL+H). -- regards, Jurgen Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on WinXP.5.1.2600.SP1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information:

Different use of %FROM in version 2.0

2003-09-10 Thread Mark
Dear Bats Something seems to have changed with the %FROM macro from version 1.xx to 2.0 A Mass mailing Template of the form %FROM=[EMAIL PROTECTED]%- Rest of template Previously addressed all emails as FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED] Now all emails come from the account address and entirely ignore

Message headers

2003-09-10 Thread Mark
The ability to add and edit message headers looks kind of neat. I have been racking my brains to come up with some innovative uses for this technology, but am struggling. Anyone have any inspired uses for this? Mark Current version is 2.00 |

v2 compatible with older version?

2003-09-10 Thread Wilfried Mestdagh
Hello, Is v2 compatible with older version v1.62 ? I think I saw messages about changes, so I'm not sure. The main reason I ask, is that I have AV problems with v2, and I maybe can try the old EXE (I renamed it to keep it). But if there are compatibility issues then maybe I just better

Access violation in Account - Properties

2003-09-10 Thread Wilfried Mestdagh
Hello, I have not mutch luck on the 2 other mailing list. The tech seems dead, the beta is only some talk around anti virus and so :( so I try here. I will try to explain clear, but my english is not so well :( After upgrading to v2, I have AV when I hit account - properties. In fact I

Re: HTML as default on v2.00 ...........?

2003-09-10 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Sheldon, On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 16:39:53 -0700 GMT (10/09/2003, 06:39 +0700 GMT), Sheldon Schuster wrote: In my opinion, I believe there is nothing intrinsically wrong with HTML *if*, and *only if* it is used correctly according to the intent of its designers. The internet was designed for

Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

2003-09-10 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Martin, On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 18:05:12 +0100 GMT (11/09/2003, 00:05 +0700 GMT), Martin Webster wrote: TF So if you can recommend a newsserver that works without TF subscription, please let me know and I will subscribe to an NG TF and try MyGate out along with you. You may find something

Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

2003-09-10 Thread Edgar van Dijk
Hello Thomas, Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 6:55:57 PM, Thomas wrote: It would not be so bad if it happens just ones. But I've a group where he did download 10.000 messages again and again. When I used kill doubles he told me that he found around 20.000. What am I doing wrong? I'd

Re: v2 compatible with older version?

2003-09-10 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Wilfried, On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 19:59:05 +0200 GMT (11/09/2003, 00:59 +0700 GMT), Wilfried Mestdagh wrote: Is v2 compatible with older version v1.62 ? If you didn't change anything in the folder structure, there is no issue. If you did, hit ctrl-alt-shft-L after you downgrade. No

Re: Bug in 2.00.x: Color Group no longer present when message moved to trash

2003-09-10 Thread Roman Katzer
On Monday, September 8, 2003, 11:19:39, Marek Mikus wrote: when I delete a message, its color group is set to none. not confirmed. Hmm. I tried numerous things the past couple of days - I've set the mailbox's properties so that the message is moved to a certain trash folder instead of just

Re[2]: v2 compatible with older version?

2003-09-10 Thread Wilfried Mestdagh
Hello Thomas, TF No guarantees. Hmm the phrase I dont wanted to hear :) I can make copy of course of folders. What about registry ? Can there be messed up something ? I need it for my work, so I cannot effort giving myself hours of problems :) -- Rgds, Wilfried

Re: Mark a message read in the view folder

2003-09-10 Thread MAU
Hello Edgar, In Account - Propertie - Options, I sellected Mark message as read only when it is open in a separate windows. I do not want the message to be marked read when viewing it in the preview pane. ... But when I click on an unread message it will become read. Is there a

Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

2003-09-10 Thread Martin Webster
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Thomas, Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 7:40:31 PM, you wrote: You may find something here: http://www.gotobiz.co.uk/g/param/Computers/Usenet/Public_News_Servers/. TF This site lists only web-based servers, as far as I could see. I don't

Re: Format Date Created in Preview Pane

2003-09-10 Thread MAU
Hello Thomas, That date used to be shown in both time zones, the sender's and yours. Not any more in v2. I have critisised this already. Which one is maintained? I sort my review pane by Created. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i

page fault error

2003-09-10 Thread Rich Gregory
I am trying to evaluate The Bat! for use as our new email client. I have A LOT of questions and was slowly finding answers on my own BUT now this morning I find I can no longer start the program. I see the several screens asking if I want TB! to be associated with several file types then,

put received date in templates

2003-09-10 Thread Cyber Tourist
Hi all, Is there any way to get the date a message was received (not created) into the templates? Thanks beforehand for kind assistance -- Best regards, Rene mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL

Re: v2 compatible with older version?

2003-09-10 Thread MAU
Hello Wilfried, I need it for my work, so I cannot effort giving myself hours of problems :) That is exactly the reason I am still on 1.62i and will not upgrade for some time :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i

Re[2]: v2 compatible with older version?

2003-09-10 Thread Wilfried Mestdagh
Hello MAU, M That is exactly the reason I am still on 1.62i and will not upgrade for M some time :) I was so stupid g -- Rgds, Wilfried http://www.mestdagh.biz Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current

RSS Feeds via IMAP

2003-09-10 Thread Terry
http://rss.blogstreet.com/asp-rssbin/quicktour_asp-rss/ Does anyone have any experience with using this? -- Regards, Terry Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information:

Re[2]: Line lengths and techniques for automatic adjustment

2003-09-10 Thread David R. Austen
Hello, Urban: U Tuesday, September 9, 2003, David R. Austen wrote: I regret to inform . . . that after using this (generous) advice I am still not getting wrapping of those very long lines of messages to which I am replying. Here is my new, modified template (in part): - - - - Hello,

Keyboard macro for junk mail

2003-09-10 Thread Christopher Brown
Hi Batters, I would like to set a key sequence (alt-j preferable) that does 3 things: 1 marks the selected messages as junk (available in the specials pulldown) 2 marks the selected messages as read 3 moves those messages to the junk folder I have the Bayesit plugin installed, and when messages

Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

2003-09-10 Thread Julien RANC
Hello all, M Hello all, M Well, just yesterday I discovered MyGate. A protocol gateway specially M developed for The Bat! (that's what the author claims) that seems to M work quite well and is much simpler to set up and use than my solution M with MailTraq, specially if you only use one news

Re: v2 compatible with older version?

2003-09-10 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Wilfried, On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 19:59:05 +0200GMT (10-9-03, 19:59 +0200, where I live), you wrote: WM Is v2 compatible with older version v1.62 ? WM I think I saw messages about changes, so I'm not sure. I switched several times between the 2.00 betas and 1.62r and that caused me no

Re: expanding the height of the message header field?

2003-09-10 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Jurgen, On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 19:31:40 +0200GMT (10-9-03, 19:31 +0200, where I live), you wrote: JH is there a way to expand the height of the message header JH field? The one to toggle with Shift+CTRL+H). Over here it gets bigger when I put more headers into it. -- Groetjes, Roelof

Re[2]: Edit incoming messages shortcut?

2003-09-10 Thread Sean H .
Hi Robin, On 9/9/03 at 10:48 PM, Robin Anson wrote: RA I am using one based on the original message you remember. It has a RA single filter, triggered by a hotkey (Ctrl+Alt+E), that: Thanks, that's the one! When I get a little more time I'll try Allie's version too, but I like having the single

Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

2003-09-10 Thread Edgar
Hello Julien, Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 10:51:49 PM, Julien wrote: I've got a problem with MyGate: I set it to download 100 messages on subscription, but now, when I check for new messages, it only downloads replies to already downloaded threads. No, my problem is the he downloads

RE:expanding the height of the message header field?

2003-09-10 Thread Jurgen Haug
Hello Roelof, Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 11:01:16 PM, you wrote: On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 19:31:40 +0200GMT (10-9-03, 19:31 +0200, where I live), you wrote: JH is there a way to expand the height of the message header JH field? The one to toggle with Shift+CTRL+H). Over here it gets bigger

Re: v2 compatible with older version?

2003-09-10 Thread MAU
Hello Roelof, As I mentioned, everything works alright. I changed several times without ill effects. What about macros and templates, are they fully compatible? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i

Re[2]: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

2003-09-10 Thread Julien RANC
Hello Edgar, Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 11:13:07 PM, j'ai pu lire: E Hello Julien, E Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 10:51:49 PM, Julien wrote: I've got a problem with MyGate: I set it to download 100 messages on subscription, but now, when I check for new messages, it only downloads

Re[2]: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

2003-09-10 Thread Terry
Hi Julien, On Wednesday, September 10, 2003 at 9:51 PM, Julien wrote: I've got a problem with MyGate: I set it to download 100 messages on subscription, but now, when I check for new messages, it only downloads replies to already downloaded threads. Did anyone experienced the same problem,

Re: expanding the height of the message header field?

2003-09-10 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 10:16:21 PM, Jurgen Haug wrote: here, it adds a fancy scrollbar argh I think that's a bug, can you confirm? No bug. You have the option for each header for it either to expand the header section permanently to display it, or add it to the end of the headers

Unable To Send/Receive Mail

2003-09-10 Thread Allen Day
For the majority of the day, I've been running in to this problem. When I attempt to download my mail, it connects to the server, downloads the number of messages, then says it's downloading but hangs without ever pulling any down. This is displayed in the connection centre:

Re: Access violation in Account - Properties

2003-09-10 Thread Mark Wieder
Wilfried- Hmmm. An access violation in Ntdll.dll sounds pretty serious. I don't remember NT 4.0 very well, but maybe it's worth trying to restore this file from the CAB files? The /Users Depot/ area in the registry should correspond with the account information you see in the accounts pane. I

Re: Line lengths and techniques for automatic adjustment

2003-09-10 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Hi David, @10-Sep-2003, 16:44 -0400 (21:44 UK time) David R. Austen [DRA] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Urban: DRA Here is my new, modified template (in part): ... snip DRA %WRAPPED=%QUOTES DRA Please tell me if that wrap code in the right position, for DRA example. That's not going to

Re: v2 compatible with older version?

2003-09-10 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo MAU, On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 23:19:35 +0200GMT (10-9-03, 23:19 +0200, where I live), you wrote: As I mentioned, everything works alright. I changed several times without ill effects. M What about macros and templates, are they fully compatible? Nope. -- Groetjes, Roelof

Re: v2 compatible with older version?

2003-09-10 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Roelof, On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 01:07:28 +0200GMT (11-9-03, 1:07 +0200, where I live), you wrote: M What about macros and templates, are they fully compatible? RO Nope. I should elaborate on that. 2.00 has some extra macros. Those have no function in 1.62 And some other macros have slightly

Re: Wrapping recieved mail correctly

2003-09-10 Thread Allie Martin
Jamie Dainton, [JD] wrote: JD It seems some mail clients are incapable of wrapping mails at a JD sensible limit. Now as I'm viewing TB! at 1600x1200 an unwrapped JD mail line is very long. Is it possible to set the viewer to force JD the mail to wrap at 80 columns? Oh how I wish for that

Re: Wrapping recieved mail correctly

2003-09-10 Thread Dave Goodman
On Wednesday, September 10, 2003, Allie Martin wrote: JD Now as I'm viewing TB! at 1600x1200 an unwrapped JD mail line is very long. Is it possible to set the viewer to force JD the mail to wrap at 80 columns? Oh how I wish for that feature. :) Hear, hear! :) -- Dave Goodman The Bat!

Re: HTML as default on v2.00 ...........?

2003-09-10 Thread Allie Martin
David Boggon, [DB] wrote: DB My point was that one should look at the facts, Many seem to resist the facts of the matter. :/ We speak about bandwidth, problems with accurate reproducability at the recipients end, the fact that the recipient is forced to read using fonts and font sizing that

Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

2003-09-10 Thread Anne
Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 3:02:29 PM, Edgar wrote: E I've installed MyGate today. And it's receiving and sending mails to E news groups, Hmmm I installed it also to try out and I can't get it to connect to the news server at all :-( I've set up the pop » nntp and the smtp » nntp

Re: HTML as default on v2.00 ...........?

2003-09-10 Thread Allie Martin
David Boggon, [DB] wrote: DB With respect, the way a thing is presented is never usually the DB responsibility of the person to whom it is presented. We are always DB presenting ourselves and what we do in a particular way, whether we DB (or anyone else) likes it or not. Hmmm. I usually try to

Re: HTML as default on v2.00 ...........?

2003-09-10 Thread Allie Martin
Dave Kennedy, [DK] wrote: DK That is such a great point! (I wish I had made it. :) ) DK We techies so often forget that our view of the world is different DK than the typical end user. And you know why? We are in the know and they're not. :) We know the problems with HTML and they don't. They

Re: Scheduler - reasons to go V2

2003-09-10 Thread Allie Martin
Vishal, [V] wrote: V Hear hear. I'd *really* like to see some nice complicated things that V people do with TB. I'm sure there are people here who can us better V ways to handle our email. If you have your own domain, you can accurately tell, based on the In-Reply-To header which messages are

Re: zonealarm and automatic mail checks - works for anyone?

2003-09-10 Thread Allie Martin
Vishal, [V] wrote: V You think any ZA remnants might be responsible for my automatic V checking still not working? Do keep in mind that Allie last used ZA V over a year ago, version 2.6 I think. This is 4.0 Pro. I'm wondering if it's ZA at all. :/ What other software are you running. Are you

v. 2 IMAP freezes program

2003-09-10 Thread Christopher LaFond
Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Since I changed to v.2, the one account that I have which is IMAP freezes the program most (but not all) of the time when I click on the Inbox. The program stops responding. If it doesn't stop responding when I click on the

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