Re: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-16 Thread Martin Webster
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Darrin, On 15 January 2004, 15:38 -0800 ( 23:38 local time) Darrin [D] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The next version will have much better support for XP themes and more control over header colours etc. Would that help? D Any idea about

Re: MyGate 2.6

2004-01-16 Thread Stuart Hemming
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I want to subscribe to news on more than one server. Am I right in thinking I need to set up a TB! account for each one (server that is, not group)? I've set up MyGate but I don't seem to be able to receive anything. My set up is as follows:

Re: application/ms-tnef

2004-01-16 Thread MAU
Hello Stefan, M Is http://sourceforge.net/projects/tnef/ illegal then? As long as it's a non-profit development, it doesn't matter :-) I see. So, for TB we need a plug-in that is distributed for free. Any volunteer to develop it? :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)

Re: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-16 Thread Peter Olsen
Hello there. I agree fully with S J Love about the look of The Bat! I have used the bat for many years now and I am very satisfied, but I also think TB is very dull and boring to look at. Of course the contents of the program is the most important, but now that we have some very fine contents

Re: MyGate 2.6

2004-01-16 Thread MAU
Hello Andrew, timeout settings were removed from gate properties Why? I seem to recall I had to change this setting for at least one of the servers I connect to. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF:

Re[2]: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-16 Thread Allister Jenks
Friday, January 16, 2004, 6:07:57 PM, Ken wrote: kg Outlook would have to be the Harley of e-mail clients: big, fat, slow, kg troublesome and MASSIVELY popular. I don't think 'popular' is the word. Perhaps 'default'? I would wager that way more than half of Outlook's users don't realise they

Re: MyGate 2.6

2004-01-16 Thread MAU
Hello Stuart, sbipped quite a bit I'm more than prepared to concede that I'm doing something wrong, I just don't know what. Can anyone help? Please? At first sight everything seems to be OK. Can you enable session logging to try to get more details for a couple of sessions and post it here?

Re: MyGate 2.6

2004-01-16 Thread Stuart Hemming
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 M Hello Stuart, M sbipped quite a bit I'm more than prepared to concede that I'm doing something wrong, I just don't know what. Can anyone help? Please? M At first sight everything seems to be OK. Can you enable session logging M to try to get

Re[2]: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-16 Thread Allie Martin
Peter Olsen wrote: PO I agree fully with S J Love about the look of The Bat! I have PO used the bat for many years now and I am very satisfied, but I PO also think TB is very dull and boring to look at. Of course the PO contents of the program is the most important, but now that we PO have some

Re: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-16 Thread Richard Wakeford
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Allie, On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Try WindowBlinds. :) It will not only make TB! look better, but will make Windows, in general, look better. Just had a quick look and it seems great. Will give it a try. Thanks

Re[3]: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-16 Thread Darrin
Try WindowBlinds. :) It will not only make TB! look better, but will make Windows, in general, look better. I use Themexp from themexp.org. It also changes the way TB! looks. That along with some nice icons and you have a sweet interface. -- Darrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re[2]: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-16 Thread Allie Martin
Richard Wakeford wrote: RW Just had a quick look and it seems great. Will give it a try. It works well these days. Minimal interference now, hence my revisiting and now sticking with it. RW Thanks for the pointer because I also think TB! is a bit dull RW visually. I think this is the way to go

Re: MyGate 2.6

2004-01-16 Thread Andrew Perevodchik
Hello! timeout settings were removed from gate properties M Why? I seem to recall I had to change this setting for at least one of M the servers I connect to. I'll see if I can restore those. Space in .gte files for timeouts is still reserved ;) -- Andrew Perevodchik Kiev, Ukraine Using The

Re[2]: auto-complete from address book - wrong address

2004-01-16 Thread Vishal Nakra
Hi Roman Thursday, January 15, 2004, 9:12:41 PM, you wrote: Oh, how then would TB know which address you mean to be the default? RK That's what I'm asking. Well have you tried reordering the various address book entries? Perhaps TB picks up the first one there too. Cheers, -- Vishal

Re[2]: auto-complete from address book - wrong address

2004-01-16 Thread Vishal Nakra
Hi Roman Thursday, January 15, 2004, 9:20:45 PM, you wrote: RK Let's say you've got 15 people named Joe in your address book, all entered RK with their first and last names. Type in Joe in your address book field RK and TB will auto-complete it to match the first Joe in your AB. If you RK want a

Re: MyGate 2.6

2004-01-16 Thread Peter Fjelsten
All, On 15-01-2004 15:56, Andrew [AP] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: AP Bug with authorization found. I temporary removed installation file. AP You'd better redownload it in few hours, when I fix it. Could someone send me this version, since the fixed version is not up yet? My old version runs

Re: MyGate 2.6

2004-01-16 Thread Stuart Hemming
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 PF Could someone send me this version, since the fixed version is not up PF yet? Yes it is; I downloaded it this morning. It's build 171 - -- Stuart Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/31 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Aided by BayesIt! 0.4gm

Re: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-16 Thread Richard Wakeford
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Allie, On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I think this is the way to go rather than having each program do its own spiffing up. Yes, it's good. - -- Best regards, Richard | Using The Bat! 2.03 Beta/38 SpamPal |

More missing messages

2004-01-16 Thread Quin Selman
Hello TBUDL, It happened once before that all messages in a particular folder suddenly turned invisible. They were reported in the tree as existing but nothing showed in the message list. I was able to rectify this situation by using Empty Folder to store the messages temporarily in the

Re: More missing messages

2004-01-16 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all, Friday, January 16, 2004, Quin Selman wrote: Now it's happened again. This time it's the inbox under one account. There should be 21 messages displayed but they are invisible in the message list. Using Empty Folder, I moved them to the trash, where they are visible. But I

Re: MyGate 2.6

2004-01-16 Thread MAU
Hello Stuart, ,- [ ] | Log starts here at 16/01/2004 12:45:24 | LOCAL +OK MyGate 2.6.0.171 ready. | LOCAL USER shemming | LOCAL +OK Accepted. | LOCAL PASS *** | LOCAL -ERR Command not recoginezed. | Log ends here at 16/01/2004 12:45:25 `- I have no idea why the ERR Command not

Re: application/ms-tnef

2004-01-16 Thread Mark Wieder
MAU- I would love to see a Tools plugin API for TB that would allow us to do things like that. But for now plugins are only for antivirus, antispam, and macro development. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4

Re: MyGate 2.6

2004-01-16 Thread MAU
Hello Andrew, I'll see if I can restore those. Space in .gte files for timeouts is still reserved ;) Thanks :-)) BTW, any idea of what could be Stuart Hemming's problem? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF:

Re: More missing messages

2004-01-16 Thread MAU
Hello Quin, Any suggestions? And has anyone else had this problem? Is there any possibility that you may be using a View/Display filter? Like view only Parked, or something? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF:

Re: MyGate 2.6

2004-01-16 Thread Andrew Perevodchik
Hello! M I have no idea why the ERR Command not recoginezed., the response M to PASS should be just +OK Accepted. I'm afraid we'll have to M wait and see if Andrew has anything to say. You might not believe me, but I also have no idea yet 8( -- Andrew Perevodchik Kiev, Ukraine Using The Bat!

Re: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-16 Thread Chris Montgomery
Thursday, January 15, 2004, 11:42:35 PM, Chris wrote: My copy of Outlook (and Office 2003) was so broken that I spent 2 hours and 45 minutes on the phone with Microsoft technical support deleting files, folders, registry keys, running system restore, re-installing Office... Sounds like it's

Re: MyGate 2.6

2004-01-16 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Andrew, on Thu, 15 Jan 2004 16:56:44 +0200GMT (15.01.04, 15:56 +0100GMT here), you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : MyGate 2.6 After so much talk about it I /had/ to try it myself. It works wonderfully! M Thanks for this new version. My thanks too! AP Bug with authorization found. I

Re: MyGate 2.6

2004-01-16 Thread Andrew Perevodchik
Hello! PM I must have got just that faulty version. It took me quite some time PM to figure out that I had to enter my Username in the password field PM and vice versa. Good thing to have the log file option. It revealed PM this mistake. :-) Is this the bug you hope to have fixed soon?

Re: More missing messages

2004-01-16 Thread Quin Selman
Hello MAU, Friday, January 16, 2004, 10:03:39 AM, you wrote: Hello Quin, Any suggestions? And has anyone else had this problem? Is there any possibility that you may be using a View/Display filter? Like view only Parked, or something? Nope, Display All Messages selected. -- Best

Re: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-16 Thread Jonathan Gennick
Thursday, January 15, 2004, 4:52:38 PM, S J Love ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: SJL I make no secret: though The Bat! (TB) has been my default mailer for SJL over a year, I have played with others, including Eudora, M2 in Opera, SJL Pegasus, (even Outlook Express and Outlook..again - VERY briefly),

Re: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-16 Thread Greg Strong
Hello Jonathan, Friday, January 16, 2004, 1:11:28 PM, Jonathan Gennick wrote: JG Agent is really good. ... I have Agent as well for news. JG I may go back to it. Agent would have to make quantum leaps before I'd even think about using it for my email. With the filtering, macros, and template

Re: MyGate 2.6

2004-01-16 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Andrew, on Fri, 16 Jan 2004 20:13:48 +0200GMT (16.01.04, 19:13 +0100GMT here), you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : AP http://barin.com.ua/soft/mygate/ fixed already in 2.6.0.171. Thanks a lot! I didn't even have to change my settings. I'm still totally amazed at your brilliant work. :-))

Re[2]: application/ms-tnef

2004-01-16 Thread Stefan Tanurkov
Hello Mark, Friday, January 16, 2004, 6:45:14 PM, you wrote: MW I would love to see a Tools plugin API for TB that would allow us MW to do things like that. But for now plugins are only for MW antivirus, antispam, and macro development. The list of possible enhancements will be expanded soon.

Re: MyGate 2.6

2004-01-16 Thread MAU
Hello Andrew, You might not believe me, but I also have no idea yet 8( Of course I believe you. I haven't written a single line of code in 10 years now but I was a programmer for over 25 :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF:

Re[2]: application/ms-tnef

2004-01-16 Thread Stefan Tanurkov
Hello Chris, Friday, January 16, 2004, 4:54:39 AM, you wrote: C Is TNEF patented? Where can I find the licence? I have no idea, frankly. But it easily may be because the only thing documented about TNEF is documentation of API (provided by MS Outlook). Binary format can be explored only by

Re[2]: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-16 Thread Jonathan Gennick
Friday, January 16, 2004, 2:22:28 PM, Greg Strong ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: GS Agent would have to make quantum leaps before I'd even think about using GS it for my email. With the filtering, macros, and template functionality GS of TB it would be a stretch for me. I probably don't leverage half

Re: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-16 Thread MAU
Hello Greg, JG Agent is really good. ... I have Agent as well for news. Arr! ;-) With the filtering, macros, and template functionality of TB it would be a stretch for me. You may have all of that for news with TB and MyGate :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)

Re: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-16 Thread Edgar van Dijk
Hello MAU, On Friday, January 16, 2004, 10:44:43 PM, you wrote: With the filtering, macros, and template functionality of TB it would be a stretch for me. M You may have all of that for news with TB and MyGate :) Still MyGate is still a plug-in that does not always work good with every news

Re: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-16 Thread Chris
On Friday, January 16, 2004 at 12:43:53 AM, Allister Jenks wrote in the message The Bat! versus others mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well, heck, neither does Outlook! It took me a long while to find the email headers for example - surely a fundamental requirement of an email client??? How does one

Re: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-16 Thread Chris
On Friday, January 16, 2004 at 12:56:21 PM, Chris Montgomery wrote in the message The Bat! versus others mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: My copy of Outlook (and Office 2003) was so broken that I spent 2 hours and 45 minutes on the phone with Microsoft technical support deleting files, folders, registry

Re: application/ms-tnef

2004-01-16 Thread Chris
On Friday, January 16, 2004 at 4:07:25 PM, Stefan Tanurkov wrote in the message application/ms-tnef mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Binary format can be explored only by hacking, this creates some worries about DMCA and other things we don't know yet :-) The DMCA is a pain in the butt most of the time.

Re: application/ms-tnef

2004-01-16 Thread Chris
On Friday, January 16, 2004 at 11:45:14 AM, Mark Wieder wrote in the message application/ms-tnef mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: I would love to see a Tools plugin API for TB that would allow us to do things like that. But for now plugins are only for antivirus, antispam, and macro development. One

Re[3]: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-16 Thread malexander
Hello Jonathan, Friday, January 16, 2004, 9:42:21 PM, you wrote: JG I probably don't leverage half of what The Bat! will do for JG me. I switched to it, because I needed a good email program JG that would handle multiple accounts. But it doesn't do JG news, and I do, in fact, still use Agent

Re[3]: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-16 Thread Munango-Keewati
On Thursday, January 15, 2004, 11:43:53 PM, you wrote: It took me a long while to find the email headers for example - surely a fundamental requirement of an email client??? Where? I haven't been able to find anything equivalent to real header information. -- Best, M-K Using The Bat!

Re: The Bat! versus others

2004-01-16 Thread Michael L. Cusac
On Friday 16 January 2004 05:39 pm, Munango-Keewati wrote:  It took me a long while to find the email headers for example - surely a fundamental requirement of an email client??? Where? I haven't been able to find anything equivalent to real header information. For Outlook 97, 98, or

Re: auto-complete from address book - wrong address

2004-01-16 Thread Roman Katzer
On Friday, January 16, 2004, 10:10:12, Vishal Nakra wrote: Ah, I see what you mean. I thought you meant you could cycle among different email addresses within a particular address book entry by doing that. Which would be an excellent feature to add in a future version, don't you think? Yup.