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On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 04:22:20 +0200, Tim Casten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have OE 6, and I don't see any such option. it a feature in the sp2 version Its definitely not only in the SP2 version (I activate it on all systems where the people insist to use OE, and only a fraction of that is XP-SP

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Tim Casten writes: > it a feature in the sp2 version Oh. Well, it was too little, too late, as I now use TB for my e-mail (despite several annoying bugs). I haven't even installed SP2, since I'm sure it will break applications, and I can't afford to spend hundreds or thousands of dollars upgrad

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Hello Anthony, Monday, April 4, 2005, 6:41:58 PM, you wrote: > I have OE 6, and I don't see any such option. it a feature in the sp2 version -- Best regards, Timmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.0.1.33

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MFPA writes: > Is there a risk to Flash? Flash contains instructions that are executable on the local machine; therefore there's always a risk. There have been some reported virus infections of Flash content. I don't have any legitimate use for Flash so I have no Flash software installed. I wo

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MFPA writes: > Tools | Options | Read tab | Read all messages in plain text > in OE 6; dunno about other versions. I have OE 6, and I don't see any such option. -- Anthony __ Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 __

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Hello MFPA & everyone else, on 04-Apr-2005 at 20:26 you (MFPA) wrote: > Is there a risk to Flash? ...you're male, so... probably not. SCNR! -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Our dreams dream us. -- Anonymous __

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Hi On Monday 4 April 2005 at 3:43:09 PM, in , Anthony G. Atkielski wrote: > I have all the ActiveX turned off in MSIE, and nowadays I use > Firefox, anyway, in which I've also turned off everything I can, > including Flash. Is there a risk to Flash? -- Best regards, M

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Hi On Monday 4 April 2005 at 4:56:12 PM, in , Anthony G. Atkielski wrote: > I switched to TB from Outlook Express because OE wouldn't let me turn > off display of HTML mail, Tools | Options | Read tab | Read all messages in plain text in OE 6; dunno about other versions.

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ."_)~~ ~( __ _"o Was another beautiful day, Mon, 04 Apr 2005, @ @ at 11:01:00 -0500, when Allie Martin wrote to Anthony: > Your security model just isn't practical for many if not most users. Security model is only one, and i

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ."_)~~ ~( __ _"o Was another beautiful day, Mon, 4 Apr 2005, @ @ at 22:17:47 +0700, when Thomas Fernandez wrote: > On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:54:04 +0200 GMT (04/04/2005, 21:54 +0700 GMT), > Mica Mijatovic wrote: MM>> If I know th

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Hi Anthony, On 04/04/2005 06:14 PM +0200, you wrote: Most can avoid them; they just don't want to. The urge to see a video of Paris Hilton is just too strong. Your funny. :) -- Allie Martin System specs: http://www.ac-martin.com/sysspecs.htm -=-=- Nothing is impossible for anyone impervious to

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Allie Martin writes: > Nah. You're just able to avoid doing a lot of things others can't. Most can avoid them; they just don't want to. The urge to see a video of Paris Hilton is just too strong. -- Anthony __ Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows

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Hello Anthony, On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 17:58:56 +0200 GMT (04/04/2005, 22:58 +0700 GMT), Anthony G. Atkielski wrote: >> My point is that some oneone who sent me uninfected files one day, may >> send me an infected file the next. AGA> Then that person is not a trusted source. Not, they aren't. Yet, I

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Hi Anthony, On 04/04/2005 05:56 PM +0200, you wrote: I've been good at what I do for a very long time. Nah. You're just able to avoid doing a lot of things others can't. I find it disturbing that you imply that your method will work for others. This implies that what you merely desire and can t

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ."_)~~ ~( __ _"o Was another beautiful day, Mon, 4 Apr 2005, @ @ at 16:44:00 +0200, when Anthony G. Atkielski wrote: > Allie Martin writes: >> It's ridiculous now and we simply have to run the software rather >> than sit thin

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Hi Anthony, On 04/04/2005 05:40 PM +0200, you wrote: Not for me. If this is only about you, then there's nothing to discuss. General advice on security can never be based on individual needs or specialized measures. The best security measures are never generic. They're based on the profile of t

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Thomas Fernandez writes: > My point is that some oneone who sent me uninfected files one day, may > send me an infected file the next. Then that person is not a trusted source. > Not for me. Well, if they send me .exe files, I do ask them to send me > sensible files. But an Excel atttachment is

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Allie Martin writes: > From reading your other messages it would seem that your use of your > system and why *you* require or need allows you the luxury of being > able to simply avoid risky practices. More power to you that you're > able to actually do this. Unfortunately, this isn't practical

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Hello Anthony, On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 17:39:51 +0200 GMT (04/04/2005, 22:39 +0700 GMT), Anthony G. Atkielski wrote: >> You are not in business or academy. In those fields, attached files >> with macros are common. AGA> I'm in both, and macro-laden files comprise only a tiny minority of AGA> attached

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Hello Anthony G. Atkielski & everyone else, on 04-Apr-2005 at 17:40 you (Anthony G. Atkielski) wrote: >> Impractical. > Not for me. I've used eBay without the need for ActiveX. That conversation ends here, because it start to get redundant. See mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Best regards, Alexand

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Alexander S. Kunz writes: > Impractical. Not for me. I've used eBay without the need for ActiveX. -- Anthony __ Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 3.0.1.33

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Alexander S. Kunz writes: > So, every Netsky virus that sends itself around with a fake sender address > would come from a trusted source by that definition. Trusted sources are verifiable sources. Digital signatures come in handy here. -- Anthony __

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Thomas Fernandez writes: > You are not in business or academy. In those fields, attached files > with macros are common. I'm in both, and macro-laden files comprise only a tiny minority of attached files. > Right. There is no 100% protection, if you need to open those files. Often, you don't ne

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Hi Anthony, On 04/04/2005 04:44 PM +0200, you wrote: It only gets dangerous when you stop thinking. From reading your other messages it would seem that your use of your system and why *you* require or need allows you the luxury of being able to simply avoid risky practices. More power to you t

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Hello Anthony G. Atkielski & everyone else, on 04-Apr-2005 at 16:43 you (Anthony G. Atkielski) wrote: > Don't use the advance picture service Impractical. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) A learned blockhead is a greater blockhead than an ignorant one. --

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Hello Anthony G. Atkielski & everyone else, on 04-Apr-2005 at 16:48 you (Anthony G. Atkielski) wrote: > Files from a trusted source are clean by definition So, every Netsky virus that sends itself around with a fake sender address would come from a trusted source by that definition. Thats secure

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Hello Alexander, On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 16:17:37 +0200 GMT (04/04/2005, 21:17 +0700 GMT), Alexander S. Kunz wrote: >> Does this sounds arrogant (or elitaire) or is it just me? ASK> Nope, its not only you. OK, thanks for the heads-up. -- Cheers, Thomas. Fettflecken werden wie neu, wenn man sie

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Hello Mica, On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:54:04 +0200 GMT (04/04/2005, 21:54 +0700 GMT), Mica Mijatovic wrote: MM> If I know that someone is not practising appropriate methods in making MM> his/her machine "safe", I will not accept an invitation, for instance, MM> to "chat" with him/her, will not share f

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Hello Anthony, On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:48:35 +0200 GMT (04/04/2005, 21:48 +0700 GMT), Anthony G. Atkielski wrote: >> They are better than nothing. AGA> Yes, but safe computing practices are better than A/V products, and they AGA> are free and do not interfere with the functioning of the OS. You m

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ."_)~~ ~( __ _"o Was another beautiful day, Mon, 4 Apr 2005, @ @ at 12:54:53 +0200, when Alexander S. Kunz wrote: > I see postings here that blame the average user, I don't think that is > fair. Melissa Reece mentioned "a bit

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Thomas Fernandez writes: > Does this sounds arrogant (or elitaire) or is it just me? Some people think the mere notion of people having computers at home is arrogant and elitist. -- Anthony __ Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600

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Thomas Fernandez writes: > They are better than nothing. Yes, but safe computing practices are better than A/V products, and they are free and do not interfere with the functioning of the OS. > Firewalls have nothing to do with AV software. They have a lot to do with safe computing, though. In

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Allie Martin writes: > It's ridiculous now and we simply have to run the software rather > than sit thinking that we alone can make the difference. It only gets dangerous when you stop thinking. -- Anthony __ Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP

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Alexander S. Kunz writes: > There was one incident that change my attitude towards this. I'm > normally using Opera, but in order to use some pages, as you surely > know, one must use Internet Explorer. One of these sites that require > IE *and* ActiveX is ebay when you want to sell something and

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On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 15:34:50 +0200, Thomas Fernandez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: AGA> Then they will get what they deserve. [...] AGA> Shared computers are never a good idea. Does this sounds arrogant (or elitaire) or is it just me? Nope, its not only you. -- Gruesse / Greetings, Alexander Kunz

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On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 15:46:50 +0200, Mica Mijatovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: /// So, it *is* about money, since the value system used to estimate a software, is directly derived, to a significant extent, from what money means/represents to someone, a particular person, or a group of them. This

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Hi On Monday 4 April 2005 at 2:32:44 PM, in , Thomas Fernandez wrote: > ... confirmation that "100% virus free" in the mail. I once had such certifications turned on for testing purposes and forgot to turn them off before sending an email. The message was bounced back wit

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ."_)~~ ~( __ _"o Was another beautiful day, Mon, 04 Apr 2005, @ @ at 08:57:42 +0200, when Alexander S. Kunz wrote: > On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 02:29:15 +0200, Mica Mijatovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> Okay, it's about money. I

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Hello Anthony, On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 06:02:13 +0200 GMT (04/04/2005, 11:02 +0700 GMT), Anthony G. Atkielski wrote: [...] AGA> Then they will get what they deserve. [...] AGA> Shared computers are never a good idea. Does this sounds arrogant (or elitaire) or is it just me? -- Cheers, Thomas. Eve

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Hello Alexander, On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 12:54:53 +0200 GMT (04/04/2005, 17:54 +0700 GMT), Alexander S. Kunz wrote: >> Yes. Poor Average Joe User. Buys Norton Antivirus in a shop and >> believes he's safe... ASK> I see postings here that blame the average user, I don't think that is ASK> fair. Meliss

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Hello Anthony, On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 22:38:33 +0200 GMT (04/04/2005, 03:38 +0700 GMT), Anthony G. Atkielski wrote: AGA> Antivirus products, generally speaking, are inferior substitutes for AGA> safe computing practices. They are better than nothing. AGA> The only threats that truly justify automat

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Hi Alexander, On 4/4/2005 12:54 PM +0200, you wrote: This was such an everyday situation, I dare say it could've happened to everyone... especially since the standard accounts creating during the Win XP installation are administrative accounts, anyway... I got adware/spyware on my machine under s

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Hello Arjan de Groot & everyone else, on 04-Apr-2005 at 00:07 you (Arjan de Groot) wrote: >> You really believe this, do you? > I do. I've been using personal computers for almost 20 years > now and never needed any protection against virusses, trojans or > whatever, whatsoever. There was one i

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Monday, April 4, 2005, 2:12:15 PM, Paul wrote: PB> Have you asked the List about grouping? The list has helped me over PB> the years. Oh, yes! I had a gripe quite recently and many tried to help, but to no avail. -- Cheers, Allister :flag-newzealand: New Zealand / Aotearoa _