Hello Arjan de Groot & everyone else,

on 04-Apr-2005 at 00:07 you (Arjan de Groot) wrote:

>> You really believe this, do you?

> I do. I've been using personal computers for almost 20 years
> now and never needed any protection against virusses, trojans or
> whatever, whatsoever.

There was one incident that change my attitude towards this. I'm normally
using Opera, but in order to use some pages, as you surely know, one must
use Internet Explorer. One of these sites that require IE *and* ActiveX is
ebay when you want to sell something and use their advance picture service.

At that time exactly, when I was in the need to use the dreaded IE/ebay
combination, IE had a security hole that allowed remote installation of
code (whichever way, I can't remember). At the same time, one (or some) of
the internet advertising service Falk AG's server(s) was hacked and some
malicious code was appended to each ad that was served thru that server.
Code that exploited the security hole in IE.

You already guess it... I start up IE, go to the ebay page, it loads, and
suddenly a window pops up that my Virus Scanner has blocked a trojan from
installing.

I consider myself an experienced and aware user (even though I am using my
machine with an admin account usually, I admit). I am behind a hardware
router/firewall and have the WinXP built-in firewall enabled.

This was such an everyday situation, I dare say it could've happened to
everyone... especially since the standard accounts creating during the Win
XP installation are administrative accounts, anyway...


>> Ever heard of the average "Joe User"? :-)

> Yes. Poor Average Joe User. Buys Norton Antivirus in a shop and
> believes he's safe...

I see postings here that blame the average user, I don't think that is
fair. Melissa Reece mentioned "a bit of end user education" - well, who's
going to do that?

-- 
Best regards,
 Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981)

Tis not too late tomorrow to be brave. -- John Armstrong, in The Art
of Preserving Health


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