Re: Version 3.5 major bug!
Thursday, May 19, 2005, 12:23:12 PM, Andrew wrote: AC I'm afraid I've been guilty of changing the subject of a thread by AC bringing this up in my original post, for which I apologise; I'm AC rather a beginner in these things. Am I allowed to revert to the AC original question raised by Allister? Ah! We are all human. That's what the moderators are for! ;-) AC Can anybody duplicate this behaviour in 3.5 : create a Group, add a AC User to it, then logon as the Group. What happens when you then AC click on the 'Create a new message' button? With me this causes an AC AV. At least I have a workaround that is mostly usable. Thanks for adding your concurrence to my bug - perhaps it will actually get looked at. I get the feeling that bugs reported by (perhaps) beta testers get first look or something. Maybe, just maybe, they will look at my other group bug if they look at this one. I've been putting up with that one since 1.62 or thereabouts! Do so few people use groups that it isn't considered important? I thought this was one of the compelling features of TB! Certainly I have relied on it almost since day one. -- Cheers, Allister :flag-newzealand: New Zealand / Aotearoa Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Re[2]: Proposal for spam filters
Hello Steve. --On 18 May 2005 22:21 +0100 you wrote about Re[2]: Proposal for spam filters: I use Spamcop and can only whitelist senders not receivers and the sender is yourself not the bat. In that case may I suggest http://www.firetrust.com/ -- Tony. M. pgpyNHfY2S1CE.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Proposal for spam filters
Hello Alexander. --On 18 May 2005 23:30 +0200 you wrote about Re: Proposal for spam filters: Well, the Sender of the list messages, according to the headers I'm seeing, is Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED], while the From field has the address of the message author. Exactly what I said, add [EMAIL PROTECTED] to the white list if that's the sender. -- Tony. M. pgpokOpDNScsP.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Re[2]: Proposal for spam filters
Hello Steve. --On 18 May 2005 22:21 +0100 you wrote about Re[2]: Proposal for spam filters: I use Spamcop and can only whitelist senders not receivers and the sender is yourself not the bat. I just visited the Spamcop web site, I clicked the Download Trial link and it took me to the Mailwasher Pro download page. Now from what I can gather Spamcop is not a software program, it's a company or service where you report spam to. I use it myself with Mailwasher Pro and if I click the report box for any spam I get that they don't already know about it's Spamcop that it's reported to. If it was a spam filtering program I doubt they'd direct people to a competitors download page. Correct me if I'm wrong but Spamcop is not Spam trapping software, it's just a place to report it to? See attached for a complete description as to exactly what Spamcop is. If so, what actual software do you use to trap spam in the first place? Like I said I use Spamcop myself, I just didn't know it. Mailwasher Pro does such a good job I don't even know it's there half the time. -- Tony. M. pgpOBg0J4pwFn.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Proposal for spam filters
Hello Tony, -- just now (on 05/19/2005 at 09:32) you noticed: In that case may I suggest http://www.firetrust.com/ BAD Sig! -- just now (on 05/19/2005 at 10:17) you wrote: Exactly what I said, add [EMAIL PROTECTED] to the white list if that's the sender. BAD Sig! -- just now (on 05/19/2005 at 10:35) you chipped in: I just visited the Spamcop web site, I clicked the Download Trial link and it took me to the Mailwasher Pro download page. BAD Sig! What's up in here? -- Adios, Manuel, http://www.manuel-breitfeld.de Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem closing TB3.5
On Mon, 16 May 2005 07:58:12 -0500, Stuart Cuddy wrote: No help, but misery loves company. ;) I am getting the same message. Seems to be a Bayesit problem as the error is reported in the bayesit.log at the end of the session. 19.05.2005 08:57:25 TBP_Finalize function: exception C005 at C005 Non-fatal Line (important!) = 14 Parameter 0= Parameter 1=8B6D0809 -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.5 and BayesIt! 0.8.1 Release Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filter losing hotkey.
Hello, I have a filter that creates messages that should be sent to SpamCop, nothing special about it (included in end of mail). It responds only to the hotkey ALT-CTRL-S (AltGr-S). I have copied and pasted this filter onto three of my accounts and attached the same hotkey to all of the three accounts. And here comes the tricky part, sometimes the hotkey for the filter on the first account (only this account) stops responding and nothing happens, if I go into the Sorting Office the filter has the hotkey set, and if I just reapply the hotkey the filter will work again. If I create a a couple of new filter that toggle the message flag for example and try them I will get the same result, but it does not happen all the time and then only for the first account. I do not have that much experience in filters like this, so if I'm doing anything wrong it may fix the problem. TB! Message Filter beginFilter UID: [DC9123CC.01C54261.314A5C13.4A89DA61] Name: Submit\20spam\20to\20SpamCop Filter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ExportMessage Kludges OverwriteExist FmtUnix filename C:\5Ctemp\5Cexport.txt filenamerelative %EXEDRIVE%\5Ctemp\5Cexport.txt Forward template %PUT\3D\22C:\5Ctemp\5Cexport.txt\22\0D\0A\0D\0A NoAttach address [EMAIL PROTECTED] SetColour 513481698 IsManual IsActive IsHotkey IsHotkeyOnly IsSendQueue endFilter -- /Fredrik The Bat! 3.5 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem closing TB3.5
On Thu, 19 May 2005 09:41:35 +0100, Barry wrote: On Mon, 16 May 2005 07:58:12 -0500, Stuart Cuddy wrote: No help, but misery loves company. ;) I am getting the same message. Seems to be a Bayesit problem as the error is reported in the bayesit.log at the end of the session. 19.05.2005 08:57:25 TBP_Finalize function: exception C005 at C005 Non-fatal Line (important!) = 14 Parameter 0= Parameter 1=8B6D0809 Got it! It's a Bayesit install issue. Somehow TB thought that my installation of Bayesit was still 0.8.0 even though the plugin selected was the correct file, 0.8.1 It was a bugger to get TB to recognise the newest plugin file but perseverance prevailed. Finally I had to find the location of the language file (*.lng) and once that was correctly selected everything now seems to be OK. I suspect that the problem was due to the fact that my plugin was not located in the default place. I have my Mail Folder on a different partition which is where the Bayesit Plugin was also located. -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.5 and BayesIt! 0.8.1 Release Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Low Quality Address Book Icons
ON Wednesday, May 18, 2005, 11:11:36 PM, you wrote: IAW My notebook has an ATI Radeon 9600 series card with 64 MB RAM running IAW at 1400 x 1050. I have no reduction in graphics hardware acceleration. IAW I don't believe it is a graphics card problem as my desktop has a IAW VideoExcel card with 8 MB RAM and there is the same difference in IAW quality/resolution between the icons on the toolbar, the left panel, IAW and the address icons in the address book. Hi Ian, I am seeing exactly the same on my laptop to. It looks like the files are no low quality but that they stretched beyond their native resolution. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Save the whales - collect the whole set Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem closing TB3.5
ON Thursday, May 19, 2005, 11:09:49 AM, you wrote: B I suspect that the problem was due to the fact that my plugin was not B located in the default place. I have my Mail Folder on a different B partition which is where the Bayesit Plugin was also located. Non-conformity will always be punished ;-) -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Wear the old coat and buy the new book. - Austin Phelps - Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Proposal for spam filters
I just visited the Spamcop web site, I clicked the Download Trial link and it took me to the Mailwasher Pro download page. It is Spamcop.net not spamcop.com - big difference. -- Best wishes, Steve Lee http://jumbocruiser.com Tel +44 7768 211612 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Proposal for spam filters
Tony Boom: http://www.firetrust.com/ I see that... ...MailWasher is still suggesting that you should bounce back unwanted email to the spammer so it looks as if your email address is not valid. That feature is a big problem, and I can't believe it is still in there! -- St Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [TBUDL] Proposal for spam filters
Steve Lee: It is Spamcop.net not spamcop.com - big difference. Yes - spamcop.com is is someone trying to trade on SpamCop.Net's trademark and reputation. spamcop.com's marketing tactics are down- right un-sporting. Gotta ask yourself what FirstTrust's deal is in this... -- St Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Proposal for spam filters
Dear Steve, @19-May-2005, 11:27 Steve Lee [SL] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Tony: I just visited the Spamcop web site, I clicked the Download Trial link and it took me to the Mailwasher Pro download page. SL It is Spamcop.net not spamcop.com - big difference. I think you'll find that was Tony's typo. His description is of spamcop.net. I've used it on and off for years. And there is no spamcop spam filter. If you're talking about a local Mailwasher installation, then that's another matter. Here are 3 ways to define filters for mailwasher to whitelist TBUDL messages. [enabled],[1] TBUDL* (T),[1] TBUDL*(T),26112,OR,Legitimate,To,contains,tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com [enabled],[1] TBUDL* (R),[1] TBUDL*(R),26112,OR,Legitimate,Return Path,contains,[EMAIL PROTECTED] [enabled],[1] TBUDL* (H),[1] TBUDL*(R),26112,OR,Legitimate,EntireHeader,contains,List-Id: tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Spamcop do filter spam for you, but only if you use a spamcop.net email address, which you are not doing, so it's not that. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.5 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgpJAh3vCyZ8A.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Proposal for spam filters
@19-May-2005, 11:49 Marck D Pearlstone [MP] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Steve: MP @19-May-2005, 11:27 Steve Lee [SL] in MP mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Tony: I just visited the Spamcop web site, I clicked the Download Trial link and it took me to the Mailwasher Pro download page. SL It is Spamcop.net not spamcop.com - big difference. MP I think you'll find that was Tony's typo. No Marck - it was Tony's mistake. ... snip MP Spamcop do filter spam for you, but only if you use a spamcop.net MP email address, which you are not doing, so it's not that. Just seen the stuff SpamCop do about accepting forwarded mail, so strike that nonsense about MailWasher. But I can't find where they define their whitelisting stuff. So I'm backing down from this convo. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.5 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgpKkYlQKwUJh.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Re[4]: Proposal for spam filters
Hello Steve. --On 19 May 2005 11:27 +0100 you wrote about Re[4]: Proposal for spam filters: It is Spamcop.net not spamcop.com - big difference. No difference at all! Quoting direct from spamcop.net: SpamCop is the premier service for reporting spam. You still didn't say what software you use for initially trapping spam? I can't find Spamcop software anywhere. Could you please tell me where to download it from? I've just been allover spamcop.net and can't find any software to download, I am thinking of getting a spamcop email address though, that looks quite impressive for 16 a year. What spammer is going to deliberately spam a spamcop address :) -- Tony. M. pgpaCIQPEjENv.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Proposal for spam filters
Hello St. --On 19 May 2005 12:26 +0200 you wrote about Re: Proposal for spam filters: That feature is a big problem, and I can't believe it is still in there! It's a feature I never use. You don't need Mailwasher to bounce mail though, The Bat is more than capable of doing that on it's own with a simple QT. -- Tony. M. pgpoFLmmgOik0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Proposal for spam filters
Hello Marck. --On 19 May 2005 11:49 +0100 you wrote about Re: Proposal for spam filters: Spamcop do filter spam for you, but only if you use a spamcop.net email address, which you are not doing, so it's not that. I quite like the idea of that for 16 quid a year, what do you think? -- Tony. M. pgpM8P0sxR9NL.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Proposal for spam filters
Hello Marck. --On 19 May 2005 11:57 +0100 you wrote about Re: Proposal for spam filters: No Marck - it was Tony's mistake. Yes, sorry my mistake. But I can't find where they define their whitelisting stuff. How odd, you gave the impression you used it all the time for allowing certain addresses through that were wrongly classified as spam? Isn't that why you wanted a [TAG] in the subject line, to make it easier for you to enter those addresses into your spamcop whitelist? So I'm backing down from this convo. Not my mistake after all then :) -- Tony. M. pgpc2vAgzilFO.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Proposal for spam filters
I think you'll find that was Tony's typo. His description is of spamcop.net. Not if Mailwasher is involved it wasn't. Spamcop (as in spamcop.net) has no association with Mailwasher whatsoever that I am aware of. Spamcop do filter spam for you, but only if you use a spamcop.net email address, which you are not doing, so it's not that. Now you are talking about the correct Spamcop and yes I do use their email service and thus their filtering and find it excellent. -- Best wishes, Steve Lee http://jumbocruiser.com Tel +44 7768 211612 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Proposal for spam filters
How odd, you gave the impression you used it all the time for allowing certain addresses through that were wrongly classified as spam? Isn't that why you wanted a [TAG] in the subject line, to make it easier for you to enter those addresses into your spamcop whitelist? No Tony that was me not Marck. Spamcop never deletes my filtered emails (the spams) but holds them for me to inspect and either report and delete or move to my inbox. I wanted the tags as experiences with falsely held emails from the SWREG Yahoogroup had shown that with such tags so I can easily spot them when I scan the listings of such held emails (and avoid falsely reporting spam). -- Best wishes, Steve Lee http://jumbocruiser.com Tel +44 7768 211612 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Proposal for spam filters
I quite like the idea of that for 16 quid a year, what do you think? I have used them commercially for a few years and find it is a great system. You have a certain level of tweaking to adjust the balance between false reporting and getting too many spams. Until I joined this group (and it will settle down) I had usually 1 or 2 spams and maybe 1 false report out of 500 genuine spams. -- Best wishes, Steve Lee http://jumbocruiser.com Tel +44 7768 211612 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[6]: Proposal for spam filters
You still didn't say what software you use for initially trapping spam? I can't find Spamcop software anywhere. Could you please tell me where to download it from? Spamcop.net is a service not software Spamcop.com sell Mailwasher software -- Best wishes, Steve Lee http://jumbocruiser.com Tel +44 7768 211612 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Proposal for spam filters
Dear Tony, @19-May-2005, 12:41 Tony Boom [TB] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: TB How odd, you gave the impression you used it all the time for allowing TB certain addresses through that were wrongly classified as spam? Isn't that TB why you wanted a [TAG] in the subject line, to make it easier for you to TB enter those addresses into your spamcop whitelist? So I'm backing down from this convo. TB Not my mistake after all then :) pssst - wrong person! I was replying to myself, correcting my faulty research. It is Steve Lee who uses the Spamcop mail filtering, not me! So ... sorry ... your mistake it remains ;-) -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.5 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgp4kc50erywj.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Threading
1.- Open Customise and for 'Select container:' select 'Main Form'. Then click on down pointing arrow to the far right to expand Main Form and select 'Message List Pop-up Menu'. This will show on the right window 'Current items' the context menu that you get when you right click on the message list pane. Hi Marck, I just got some time to do this then came to a grinding halt when I could not find where to Open Customise. Your assistance here would be greatly appreciated. -- Best wishes, Steve Lee http://jumbocruiser.com Tel +44 7768 211612 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Proposal for spam filters
Hello Marck. --On 19 May 2005 13:02 +0100 you wrote about Re: Proposal for spam filters: pssst - wrong person! I was replying to myself, correcting my faulty research. It is Steve Lee who uses the Spamcop mail filtering, not me! So ... sorry ... your mistake it remains ;-) Oooops, sorry Steve! :) I was replying to myself, Allie, put your white coat on, your needed :) -- Tony. M. pgpvrkowZnYpe.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading
Dear Steve, @19-May-2005, 13:17 Steve Lee [SL] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to MAU: 1.- Open Customise and for 'Select container:' select 'Main Form'. Then click on down pointing arrow to the far right to expand Main Form and select 'Message List Pop-up Menu'. This will show on the right window 'Current items' the context menu that you get when you right click on the message list pane. SL I just got some time to do this then came to a grinding halt when I SL could not find where to Open Customise. Your assistance here would SL be greatly appreciated. It was Miguel, but I can tell you anyway. Right click any old toolbar and choose Customise there. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.5 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgpk1QVNx94eN.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Norton Antivirus 2005 and connection centre startup problem.
Hello, I've an odd problem with running The Bat and NAV2005 and I'm wondering if anyone has any ideas or come across the problem before. I upgraded NAV2000 to NAV2005 the other day for some strange reason which I cannot yet fathom out!* On starting up TB the splash screen opens followed by the main TB 3 pane window. At this stage the Connection Centre would normally open but it doesn't. I get a musical 'ping' followed by a typically useful windows(bat) error message of 'System Error Code 87' 'The parameter is in correct' with an invition to click it's sole 'OK' button. On clicking the OK button all I'm left with is the main 3 pane window. Email continues to be collected and sent and on clicking 'Get New Mail' the CC appears. But in the accounts column on my left the slider button is at the bottom but the list isn't and I have to use the mouse wheel to scroll down. If I select an account read I can read the messages but I cannot get back into the accounts list. I have to click the window button at the bottom of the screen to be able to get back into the accounts list. Very tiresome! Turning off NAV email protection makes no difference but turning off the auto-protect does. So in effect I turn off NAV to get TB to function normally. Just wondered if anyone had come across this before? *I know that NAV is sometimes considered the spawn of satan so I'm not looking for 'You shouldn't have installed NAV2005' plse. :) Also I know I've got an old Bat, but I like using an old Bat as you can get a good score with an old bat sometimes! -- David Stone (UK) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! Version 2.12.00. Platform Windows 98SE 4.10. Ver. A I.E. Version: 6.0.2800.11061C SP1 Customised. Regarding base: 360385 word(s) BayesIt! 0.5.5 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Re[2]: Proposal for spam filters
Hello Steve. --On 19 May 2005 13:04 +0100 you wrote about Re[2]: Proposal for spam filters: Until I joined this group (and it will settle down) I had usually 1 or 2 spams and maybe 1 false report out of 500 genuine spams. I might give that a go I think. Am I right in thinking I can use it for an NTL account and then forward all that to my boomclan account? It's my NTL account I get most spam in, dozens and dozens of them. That's why I don't use it anymore. I did try forgetting about it and leaving the spam to pile up, but as soon as it gets full I get one message from NTL for every spam message I get telling me it's full and that's even more annoying than the spam. -- Tony. M. pgpFO5HlJY0GX.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Usage of %CLEAR macro in QTs
Hello MAU, on Thu, 19 May 2005 01:56:30 +0200 GMT your local time you wrote: M ,- [ QT1 ] M | %CLEAR M | This QT will work as expected. M `- M but M ,- [ QT2 ] M | %CLEAR%- M | This one will do what you are seeing. M `- as of my tests it also depends on WHERE you write the %clear%- sequence. If it appears anywhere inside the QT or - as in my case - at the end, it works like expected and documented. If it appears at the top of the QT it shows the bug (I think it is a bug) as described by Alexander. -- Regards, Peter Using Ritlabs TheBat! 3.5 (OS: Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Sounds on mial retrieval
I am using v3.5 (but not right now). In 3.0.1.33 I have different sounds set up to indicate the arrival of mail in my accounts. This does not appear to work correctly in 3.5. When mail arrives, all the sounds are the same as the one set in my first account. If I turn off the sounds in my first account, all sounds for arriving mail do not trigger even though they are set up correctly in the other accounts. Again, this works fine in 3.0.1.33. Can someone confirm, or should I do something different? Thank you. Jion Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -- After standing on the stage, after the debates, I made it very plain, we will not have an all-volunteer army. And yet, this week we will have an all-volunteer army. Let me restate that. Bush, showing signs of confusion (yet again) at an Oct. 16, 2004, campaign stop in Daytona Beach. Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version 3.5 major bug!
Hello Allister, A reminder of what Allister Jenks typed on: May 19, 2005 at 19:25:45 GMT +1200 AJ Maybe, just maybe, they will look at my other group bug if they look at AJ this one. I've been putting up with that one since 1.62 or thereabouts! AJ Do so few people use groups that it isn't considered important? I AJ thought this was one of the compelling features of TB! Certainly I have AJ relied on it almost since day one. Sometimes persistence pays off. ;) Did you report the bugs on BugTrack? What is the other bug you have? -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.5 Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.2 On Windows 2000 5.0 Build #2195 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Proposal for spam filters
Am I right in thinking I can use it for an NTL account and then forward all that to my boomclan account? Yes that is right. Redirect your NTL stuff to your spamcop.net account then either use their POP to collect *all* your emails or else instruct spamcop to forward to your other account. I have accumulated a few email addresses over the years so I forward all of them to spamcop and do local filtering in The Bat! to sort them out again (using the 'to' email address). I collect from Spamcop. Just seems easier that way. -- Best wishes, Steve Lee http://jumbocruiser.com Tel +44 7768 211612 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Threading
It was Miguel, but I can tell you anyway. Right click any old toolbar and choose Customise there. Silly me. I wrote to Miguel and gave your name. Thanks for the help. -- Best wishes, Steve Lee http://jumbocruiser.com Tel +44 7768 211612 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Proposal for spam filters
Tony Boom: [MailWasher's Mail Bouncer] is a feature I never use. Good! My point is that the software suggest and promotes a feature that adds to the spam problem: Say that a spam is misusing your address as Sender. Would you dislike Mailwasher to accuse you of spamming and thus bounce back unwanted email to the spammer [that's you!] so it looks as if [their] address is not valid? Yes, you would! Yet, for those that use this feature, MailWasher is sending out thousands of false accusations (bounces) every day to innocent bystanders! Those are people that had their mail address forged into a spam as Sender. This is something Mail- Washer _promotes_! Such a feature looks good on paper - and that's why MailWasher uses it as an argument to go with their software! In reality though, the feature adds to the problem as soon as innocent bystanders are receiving messages accusing them of sending mail to people they have never contacted. Tony Boom: You don't need Mailwasher to bounce mail though, The Bat is more than capable of doing that on it's own with a simple QT. I wouldn't suggest bounce mail after reception UNLESS one is absolutely sure the message is really going back to the correct Sender. Best way of bouncing a mail is at SMTP-level. Marck D Pearlstone: Spamcop do filter spam for you, but only if you use a spamcop.net email address, which you are not doing, so it's not that. In the stricked sense, this could be true. However, it is quite easy to create a system that checks with the SpamCop.Net's database whether an IP/URL (relay/spamvertised site) is listed WITHOUT having a subscription. You don't need to have a subscription with SpamCop.Net to do lookups. There are always (kegal) ways around things. :) Tony Boom: I quite like the idea of [SpamCop filtering] for 16 quid a year, what do you think? I like it to - but as I have said earlier in this thread: One can (and should) not trust it fully. I use SpamCop as an nominator. SpamCop lacks a lot of important functionality. You can not trust SpamCop alone, you can not trust SpamAssassin alone, etc. etc. Personally, I spent a lot of time creating a system here - I would say it has much of the funtionality Spam- Cop lacks. :) I reckon some of the solutions I have implemented would be too demanding on a system like SpamCop considering the amount of mail they are to handle every day (I remember I was really surprised when they added SpamAssassin to their filterings). Tony Boom: It's my NTL account I get most spam in, dozens and dozens of them. That's why I don't use it anymore. Would you want to try it with my system? I can collect your NTL spam/ham and send it back to you - I would welcome test users this way. Let me know! -- St Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Templates
I've noticed a slight difference in the way my templates are handled in v3.5. All appears well in MicroEd. However, if I use html or Windows editors, inserting any template with a %cursor macro places a garbage character where the cursor is supposed to be and the cursor appears at the end of the inserted template. This forces me to reposition the cursor to the garbage character and delete it. The cursor is then properly placed. In v3.0.1.33 this anomoly was present in the html editor only - the MicroEd and Windows editors worked as expected. Can anyone confirm or should I do something different? Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -- I speak plainly sometimes, but you've got to be mindful of the consequences of the words. So put that down. I don't know if you'd call that a confession, a regret, something. George W. Bush, speaking to reporters, Washington, D.C., Jan. 14, 2005 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Proposal for spam filters
St: In the stricked sense... Huh...that misspell was loud and embarrasing... :/ -- St Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Getting unsuspended from TB! lists--Stuart Hemming's problem
Hello fellow tbudl subscribers! Stuart Hemming put his TB! list accounts on hold for awhile, and now he can't get them back. He sent me a PM yesterday to ask if there were traffic and if I had been seeing his posts. I said yes to traffic and no to Stuart H. posts and suggested he ask Marck by PM about it. This morning he asked me to put his problem on TBBETA and asked if Marck is posting. So I said yes, very much so on TBUDL this morning. And the two of us concluded that I should place his cry for help on TBUDL, also. Here 'tis. I hope someone can assist him: ==Begin copy-and-paste It's not going well. I've mailed Marck but he's not replied yet. However, this morning I got the following from gmail ... ,- [ ] | This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification | | THIS IS A WARNING MESSAGE ONLY. | | YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE. | | Delivery to the following recipient has been delayed: | | tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com | | Message will be retried for 2 more day(s) | | Technical details of temporary failure: | TEMP_FAILURE: SMTP Error (state 10): 451 Talk to your mail administrator for details. `- Do you think you could slip something on to the list and find out if there is anyone on using gmail please? ==End copy-and-paste TIA for any help. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sounds on mial retrieval
Hi Jon JP in 3.5. When mail arrives, all the sounds are the same as the one set in my JP first account. If I turn off the sounds in my first account, all sounds for JP arriving mail do not trigger even though they are set up correctly in the JP other accounts. Can't confirm here. Have different sounds for each account (setup via Account Properties), some sounds associated with specific folders (setup via Folder Properties) in some accounts and yet more sounds for some individual users/subject contents (setup via Sorting Office filters. All working fine. Could it be that you've inadvertently restricted the times at which sounds can be played? -- Groetjes Natasha The Bat! 3.5 on Windows XP Professional 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sounds on mial retrieval
On Thursday, May 19, 2005, 9:55:04 AM, Natasha V Pearce wrote: NVP Hi Jon JP in 3.5. When mail arrives, all the sounds are the same as the one set in my JP first account. If I turn off the sounds in my first account, all sounds for JP arriving mail do not trigger even though they are set up correctly in the JP other accounts. NVP Can't confirm here. Have different sounds for each account (setup via Account NVP Properties), some sounds associated with specific folders (setup via Folder NVP Properties) in some accounts and yet more sounds for some individual NVP users/subject contents (setup via Sorting Office filters. All working fine. NVP Could it be that you've inadvertently restricted the times at which sounds can NVP be played? ___ Hi Natasha and thanks: No, everything seems to be as it should. I only have sounds setup for my individual accounts, and not for folders within those accounts. The odd thing is that if I switch between versions 3.0.1.33 and 3.5 on the same computer, it works on one perfectly, but not the other (3.5). Jon Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -- Then let us enjoy this triumph while we can - before the hounds of catastrophe break free of their shackles, and slobber chaos all over our faces - once again. Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Norton Antivirus 2005 and connection centre startup problem.
Hello David. --On 19 May 2005 12:56 +0100 you wrote about Norton Antivirus 2005 and connection centre startup problem.: I've an odd problem with running Don't tell me, your knees knock together, your toes turn in and it chafes the tops of your legs? -- Tony. M. pgp7zetDQaat1.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Is the list down?
I'm just curious... With peace, Henry -- Henry L. Lefkowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] When all that you feel are sharp teeth of an eel, that's a moray. Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Is the list down?
Hello Henry, Wednesday, May 18, 2005, 7:56:16 PM, you wrote: H I'm just curious... Nope. -- __ TBUDL/BETA/DEV/TECH Lists Moderator / PGP 0x6C0AB16B ( ) ( ___)(_ _)( ___) TBUDP Wiki Site: http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/tbudp )(__ )__) _)(_ )__) Roguemoticons: http://PCWize.com/thebat ()()()(__)PCWSmileys: http://PCWize.com/thebat/pcwsmileys.php Tagline of the day: Stop arson: Ban semi-automatic butane lighters! Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sounds on mial retrieval
On Thursday, May 19, 2005, 9:46:58 AM, Jon Polish wrote: JP in 3.5. When mail arrives, all the sounds are the same as the JP one set in my first account. I don't seem to be getting sounds at all with 3.5 -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.5 on Windows XP version 5,1 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Is the list down?
Hallo Henry, On Wed, 18 May 2005 21:56:16 -0400GMT (19-5-2005, 3:56 +0200, where I live), you wrote: HL I'm just curious... No, but it took gmail an awful long time to get the message to the list. -- Groetjes, Roelof 0100111011010110000111 - Well, computers think it's funny. The Bat! 3.5 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 2 pop3 accounts, server on LAN pgpHt5zuNdxq9.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Usage of %CLEAR macro in QTs
Hello Peter Hampf everyone else, on 19-Mai-2005 at 14:24 you (Peter Hampf) wrote: as of my tests it also depends on WHERE you write the %clear%- sequence. If it appears anywhere inside the QT or - as in my case - at the end, it works like expected and documented. If it appears at the top of the QT it shows the bug (I think it is a bug) as described by Alexander. Surprising that the position of %CLEAR in the QT is not important... not very logic if you ask me. Should I file a bug report? -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. - Bokonon Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Usage of %CLEAR macro in QTs
Good evening Alexander, on Thu, 19 May 2005 18:23:42 +0200 GMT your local time you wrote: ASK Surprising that the position of %CLEAR in the QT is not important... not ASK very logic if you ask me. That has been always true, AFAICR. ASK Should I file a bug report? Regarding the %clear%- behaviour at the top of the QT, YES please. -- Regards, Peter Using Ritlabs TheBat! 3.5 (OS: Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Macro or QT to set editor type per folder / contact / group...
Hello TBUDL, is there a macro or QT to set the editor type (text, rich, html) on a per folder / contact / group / account / ... base? -- Regards, Ralph smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading
Hello Steve, Hi Marck, I just got some time to do this then came to a grinding halt when I could not find where to Open Customise. Your assistance here would be greatly appreciated. Although you say Marck, you replied to me. Anyway, I see Marck has already given you an answer. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Usage of %CLEAR macro in QTs
Hello Peter, as of my tests it also depends on WHERE you write the %clear%- sequence. If it appears anywhere inside the QT or - as in my case - at the end, it works like expected and documented. If it appears at the top of the QT it shows the bug (I think it is a bug) as described by Alexander. May be so. I'll see if I can have some time to test tonight. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter losing hotkey.
Hello Fredrik, I have copied and pasted this filter onto three of my accounts and attached the same hotkey to all of the three accounts. And here comes the tricky part, sometimes the hotkey for the filter on the first account (only this account) stops responding and nothing happens, if I go into the Sorting Office the filter has the hotkey set, and if I just reapply the hotkey the filter will work again. I am not sure if this would/should work, I don't have the time to test now. Anyway, why don't you try with a single Common filter and share it with the accounts you need? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Not retrieving/deleting emails from server
Hello rich, How can I get 'em? Account/Dispatch Mail on Server/All messages. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Macro or QT to set editor type per folder / contact / group...
Hi Ralph, On 19/05/2005 06:14 PM +0200, you wrote: is there a macro or QT to set the editor type (text, rich, html) on a per folder / contact / group / account / ... base? Errr. no. :( -- Allie Martin System specs: http://www.ac-martin.com/sysspecs.htm -=-=- Experience: a name everyone gives to his mistakes. Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
language files
I did not know, where to send it, but as I see Stefan (Tanurkov) here, I decided to post it here: We are translating the new v.3.5 LNG file to Hungarian. My suggestion would be to Ritlabs that when you change something in the interface that needs some translation, you should have a webpage (a single page), that would contain _every_ text (like English.lnc) as link, and clicking that link would jump to a screenshot showing the place where that text is used in the program... With this new format of v3.5 LNG file I know, that some text is reused many part of the program, in that case that text would appear multiple times on that webpage linked to the different screenshots... Sorry, this issue maybe is not _directly_ related to the use of TB, but indirectly it is. -- Vili Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filter losing hotkey.
Hello MAU, Thursday, May 19, 2005, 6:54:31 PM, you wrote: I have copied and pasted this filter onto three of my accounts and attached the same hotkey to all of the three accounts. And here comes the tricky part, sometimes the hotkey for the filter on the first account (only this account) stops responding and nothing happens, if I go into the Sorting Office the filter has the hotkey set, and if I just reapply the hotkey the filter will work again. I am not sure if this would/should work, I don't have the time to test now. Anyway, why don't you try with a single Common filter and share it with the accounts you need? Hum.. well, each filter sent to a different account on spamcop, I do not know if this is needed since it seems to work anyway. I'll try a while with a Common filter and see if that works. Thanks. -- /Fredrik The Bat! 3.5 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Low Quality Address Book Icons
Hello Chris, What graphics card do you have? It seems as if it may be a graphics card issue. All those who have reported it thus far have been using ATI cards, if I remember correctly. It's definitely not a graphics card problem. I've tested four different machines. All of them have different graphics cards and drivers. The icon problem exists on any of theses PCs. For me it seems to be more related to W2K SP4. -- Best regards, Michael TheBat! 3.5 Professional on Windows 2000 SP4 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Low Quality Address Book Icons
On Thursday, May 19, 2005, 2:02:06 PM, Michael Mlinaric wrote: MM Hello Chris, What graphics card do you have? It seems as if it may be a graphics card issue. All those who have reported it thus far have been using ATI cards, if I remember correctly. MM It's definitely not a graphics card problem. I've tested four MM different machines. All of them have different graphics cards and MM drivers. The icon problem exists on any of theses PCs. For me it seems MM to be more related to W2K SP4. ___ I agree that it is not a graphics card problem. I am using the minimalist icon set with no degradation in the address book. I too have tested this on three machines (Windows 98, XP Professional, XP Home) all yielding identical results. Jon Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -- I'm honored to shake the hand of a brave Iraqi citizen who had his hand cut off by Saddam Hussein. George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., May 25, 2004 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Threading
Hello Steve, Hi Marck, I just got some time to do this then came to a grinding halt when I could not find where to Open Customise. Your assistance here would be greatly appreciated. Although you say Marck, you replied to me. Anyway, I see Marck has already given you an answer. Yes and it works well thank you - now if only we could find a way to do both next message and mark as read in one go. -- Best wishes, Steve Lee http://jumbocruiser.com Tel +44 7768 211612 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
message list - loop to beginning
is there a way to prevent the bat from looping to the beginning of the message list after the last unread message is read? i think it's illogical that this occurs but don't see a way to prevent it. did i miss a setting somewhere? thanks/regards, .. mark davidson -- Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading
Dear Steve, @19-May-2005, 22:35 Steve Lee [SL] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to MAU: Although you say Marck, you replied to me. Anyway, I see Marck has already given you an answer. SL Yes and it works well thank you - now if only we could find a way to SL do both next message and mark as read in one go. That one's in the oven ;-). Stefan says he's added the function and really likes it. It will be in with the next beta series. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.5 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgps2vI8JXcCy.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Moving Folders Around in Account Tree
Time was when you could hold down the ALT key and drag folders. That doesn't seem to work any more with 3.5. I have common folders nested as many as 3 or 4 layers deep. I wanted to move a folder from 2nd level into a different primary catagory on 3rd level. This would have been a simple operation before. Now there is move up move down move in move out. Each time you punch the three buttons, you manage to move the folder one step. When you get to the end of the group where it is nested, you have to move it out to the level of the next group. then you can jump to the bottom of the next group, and when you get to the bottom of of the group where you want to next, you can move in, then up one step at a time. It seems absurd to have to figure all this out, and to have to go through this process, when one of the better things about GUI's is the ability to drag and drop. -- Dwight A. Corrin Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving Folders Around in Account Tree
Hello Dwight, Time was when you could hold down the ALT key and drag folders. That doesn't seem to work any more with 3.5. Works here just fine. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: message list - loop to beginning
Hello mark, is there a way to prevent the bat from looping to the beginning of the message list after the last unread message is read? i think it's illogical that this occurs but don't see a way to prevent it. did i miss a setting somewhere? What is your setting in Options/Preferences/Messages/When moving to the next ? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading
Hello Steve, Yes and it works well thank you - now if only we could find a way to do both next message and mark as read in one go. I don't know why but I have the feeling that it will be possible soon. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving Folders Around in Account Tree
On Thursday, May 19, 2005, 6:00:25 PM, Peter Ouwehand wrote: Doesn't seem to be a problem here. But, are you ALT-LMB-ing on the icon or or the name? ALT-LMB-ing on the icon won't work (here), on the name it will. You are correct. That seems like odd behavior too, but better than what I thought. I think I got in the habit of grabbing the folder not the name because either TB! or some other file manager spot tends to offer the chance to rename the file instead of allowing one to grab and drag it. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.5 on Windows XP version 5,1 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving Folders Around in Account Tree
Hello Peter, Sorry to hijack, but I tried replying to your PM Peter and it bounced back, twice. Any ideas why. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.5 Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.2 On Windows 2000 5.0 Build #2195 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Moving Folders Around in Account Tree
DAC Time was when you could hold down the ALT key and drag folders. That DAC doesn't seem to work any more with 3.5. PO Doesn't seem to be a problem here. PO But, are you ALT-LMB-ing on the icon or or the name? PO ALT-LMB-ing on the icon won't work (here), on the name it will. Be careful with this. Sometimes, if you move around your folders too quickly, your folder structure can be messed up! -- Vili Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filed sorting
Dear Stefan, When we click on one for the field headings to sort the table, could you please have the scroll bar shoot up (or down) so that you can see the first or last message? In theory clicking on the flagged column for instance, all the flagged messages should shoot to the top and be immediately visible instead of having to manually scroll up. -- Best wishes, Steve Lee http://jumbocruiser.com Tel +44 7768 211612 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: message list - loop to beginning
it's set to 'just stay in the current folder' ... i really don't want to move anywhere else once i'm done reading messages in one folder but i'll try the other settings and see what happens. thanks/regards, .. - Hello mark, is there a way to prevent the bat from looping to the beginning of the message list after the last unread message is read? i think it's illogical that this occurs but don't see a way to prevent it. did i miss a setting somewhere? What is your setting in Options/Preferences/Messages/When moving to the next ? -- Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving Folders Around in Account Tree
Hi Dwight DAC Each time you punch the three buttons, you manage to move the folder one DAC step. When you get to the end of the group where it is nested, you have to DAC move it out to the level of the next group. then you can jump to the bottom DAC of the next group, and when you get to the bottom of of the group where you DAC want to next, you can move in, then up one step at a time. I know others have already answered this from a GUI perspective, but for those interested in the keyboard specifics... TB! allows you to press Move Out at any time to move your folder out one level, then you only need to use Move Up/Down at the destination level. That's how it's working for me, at least. -- Groetjes Natasha The Bat! 3.5 on Windows XP Professional 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Original glyph
Hello all, How to make original glyph to work with the new 3.5 version? http://thebat.orgavision.de//img/preview_glyphs_v2plus.gif thanks -- The Final Cut Have become comfortably numb.. pgpJtGv8cwKi1.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving Folders Around in Account Tree
On Thursday, May 19, 2005, 8:26:45 PM, Natasha V Pearce wrote: I know others have already answered this from a GUI perspective, but for those interested in the keyboard specifics... TB! allows you to press Move Out at any time to move your folder out one level, then you only need to use Move Up/Down at the destination level. That's how it's working for me, at least. I realized that as soon as I went back to move a 2nd one, but had to get there by trial and error because I wasn't expecting to get stuck on the way down the tree the first time. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.5 on Windows XP version 5,1 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filed sorting
Hello Steve, When we click on one for the field headings to sort the table, could you please have the scroll bar shoot up (or down) so that you can see the first or last message? In theory clicking on the flagged column for instance, all the flagged messages should shoot to the top and be immediately visible instead of having to manually scroll up. Just you wait Mr. Lee. :) I personally prefer the current behaviour which leaves the selected message in view. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Original glyph
Hello Peter Ouwehand On Thursday, May 19, 2005, 9:43:47 PM +0400 GMT You wrote: PO Hello The Final Cut, PO on Thu, 19 May 2005 21:35:00 -0400 (2005-05-20 03:35:00 in .nl) in the PO message with reference PO mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] you PO [TC] wrote (at least in part): PO I'd say: PO wait till Miroslav Florensen has time to do so ;) Okie dookie. I thought there was a way with a third party file. thanks for the answer -- The Final Cut Have become comfortably numb.. pgpoR1HTaWrcB.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version 3.5 major bug!
Friday, May 20, 2005, 12:41:30 AM, Stuart wrote: SC Sometimes persistence pays off. ;) Did you report the bugs on SC BugTrack? What is the other bug you have? Yes, that was me (aka ZKARJ). The other bug is #2094: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=2094 It's over a year old. The bug report, that is. The bug itself is much older. -- Cheers, Allister :flag-newzealand: New Zealand / Aotearoa Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
