TB! 2.12.00 : Default addressbook problem
Greetings TBUDLers, I have TB! set up with two Account Groups, one for me, one for my wife, with separate shortcuts to the two groups using the command-line parameter /FOCUSU=, and in both Groups' Account Properties the default addressbook is set to default. Under 2.11.02 (and before), I see just my folders and just my addressbook, and my wife sees just her folders and just her addressbook, plus there are some common folders we both see. I just tried the upgrade to 2.12.00 and can't get this behaviour. The folder view works as before, but if I open my addressbook in my Group, it shows up also in my wife's group, and vice versa. Switched back to 2.11.2 and everything works as before. Can anyone reproduce this and tell me whether 1. It's a new feature (unwelcome here!) 2. Something's broken 3. I need to do something different. TIA -- Andrew Cauthery Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: cleaning up replies
Hello! MLW I have installed and am using the clean subject macro from MLW silverstones. I am looking for something that will look at all the MLW quotes text and find yahoo ads at the bottom, nod32 taglines, etc. %SmartQuotes macro will be available in MyMacros 1.11 release in nearest future. It's for cutting greetings and goodbyes with signatures, removing too deep quotes, rearranging empty lines in quotation and some more neat things that you often do yourself :) . It's already being tested, release is expected in few weeks I think. -- Andrew Perevodchik Kiev, Ukraine The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP; MyMacros 1.11 beta1 (NOT for distribution) BayesIt! 0.5.5; ajsMacro; MyGate 2.7.0.172 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP 2.10.03
Hello Allie, it's weird i have tb! installed for imap on both my desktop and laptop and both give the same problem. Any suggestions on how to fix? Perhaps if I download the latest beta (what's the url?) Andrew Friday, May 21, 2004, 3:31:26 AM, you wrote: AM Andrew, [A] wrote: A Ok firstly auto filtering still doesn't work is that correct? AM Not yet, but it's being worked on. Hopefully it'll be up and working AM reliably soon. A Secondly after upgrading to 2.10.03 attachments can't be opened. A When I view my imap folders using Mozilla Thunderbird (which I A briefly thought might be better than TB! at IMAP) it can open and A save the attachments fine. For some reason TB! can't open the same A attachment. AM I don't have that problem though I do know that the experience with AM TB!'s IMAP can vary widely. Again, IMAP is being given attention and AM hopefully this sort of unpredictable behaviour will be sorted out. -- Best regards, Andrew Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spam Filtering
Hello Gene, Friday, May 21, 2004, 6:53:29 AM, you wrote: GB BayesIT had been working pretty well is it the best spam plugin available? -- Best regards, Andrew Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
IMAP 2.10.03
Hello tbudl, Ok firstly auto filtering still doesn't work is that correct? Secondly after upgrading to 2.10.03 attachments can't be opened. When I view my imap folders using Mozilla Thunderbird (which I briefly thought might be better than TB! at IMAP) it can open and save the attachments fine. For some reason TB! can't open the same attachment. Any ideas? Andrew -- Best regards, Andrew TheBat! 2.10.03 WinXp Pro Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Transferring TB from an old machine
I've received bought a new machine (and passed my old one on to someone who has now wiped the hard disk). Does anyone know if I am entitled to my licensed copy of TB, or if I'll have to pay again? Andrew Wainwright Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
MyMacros 1.10
Hello! MyMacros 1.10 is available at http://en.barin.com.ua/soft/mymacros/ New macros: %StrLen %GetValueN %GetValueKey %GetValueRegExpKey %RegExp %RegExpBlind -- Andrew Perevodchik ICQ:51122723 Kiev, Ukraine Using The Bat! v2.03.47 on Windows XP MyMacros 1.10; ; ajsMacro; MyGate 2.6.0.171 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: cut-line RFC and client support
Hello! tko TB removes excess whitespace from the ends of lines, so if I do tko not go back and add a space there immediately before sending, tko this happens. Yep. You can call quick template, when writing a message, with %CutHere macro in it (found in MyMacros at http://en.barin.com.ua). Just tested it, works. tko can someone tell me if this is defined by some RFC and also what tko other e-mail clients take this convention into account? Afaik no. It's just Bat's behaviour. -- Andrew Perevodchik ICQ:51122723 Kiev, Ukraine Using The Bat! v2.03.47 on Windows XP MyMacros 1.10 far alpha; ; ajsMacro; MyGate 2.6.0.171 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate 2.6
Hello! AP You might not believe me, but I also have no idea yet 8( SH Is there anything else I can try/do to help identify the problem? Is SH there anything else you need to know? I think, I'll make one more release soon. With better logging. And fixed bug about to names. We'll see it then. -- Andrew Perevodchik Kiev, Ukraine Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/25 on Windows XP MyMacros 1.08 rc; ; ajsMacro; MyGate 2.6.0.171 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate 2.6
Hello! timeout settings were removed from gate properties M Why? I seem to recall I had to change this setting for at least one of M the servers I connect to. I'll see if I can restore those. Space in .gte files for timeouts is still reserved ;) -- Andrew Perevodchik Kiev, Ukraine Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/25 on Windows XP MyMacros 1.08 rc; BayesIt! 0.4gm; ajsMacro; MyGate 2.6.0.171 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate 2.6
Hello! M I have no idea why the ERR Command not recoginezed., the response M to PASS should be just +OK Accepted. I'm afraid we'll have to M wait and see if Andrew has anything to say. You might not believe me, but I also have no idea yet 8( -- Andrew Perevodchik Kiev, Ukraine Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/25 on Windows XP MyMacros 1.08 rc; BayesIt! 0.4gm; ajsMacro; MyGate 2.6.0.171 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate 2.6
Hello! PM I must have got just that faulty version. It took me quite some time PM to figure out that I had to enter my Username in the password field PM and vice versa. Good thing to have the log file option. It revealed PM this mistake. :-) Is this the bug you hope to have fixed soon? http://barin.com.ua/soft/mygate/ fixed already in 2.6.0.171. -- Andrew Perevodchik Kiev, Ukraine Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/25 on Windows XP MyMacros 1.08 rc; BayesIt! 0.4gm; ajsMacro; MyGate 2.6.0.171 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
MyGate 2.6
Hello! MyGate 2.6 http://en.barin.com.ua/soft/mygate/ * gates ar sorted alphabetically in main window * tray icon represents state of program * normal look of the program with 120 dpi display * The Bat! filters can be generated from MyGate * it's possible to hide groups with low activity from the list * settings of MyGate are in separate window now * you can make unwanted headers to disappear from incoming messages * you can delete or reformat Message-ID header of outgoing messages * made a separate plugin for The Bat! which starts MyGate synchronously with Bat (useful for those who don't keep The Bat! running all the time) * fully rewritten fragment of code responsible for connection, timeout settings were removed from gate properties * fixed bug with setting AllGroups.Count introduced to Win 9x users in previous version * when subscibing on groups filter processes wildcards (* and ? characters) * made a detailed instruction on setting up mail clients -- Andrew Perevodchik Kiev, Ukraine Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/25 on Windows XP MyMacros 1.08 rc; BayesIt! 0.4gm; ajsMacro; MyGate 2.6.0.169 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate 2.6
Hello! MyGate 2.6 M Thanks for this new version. Bug with authorization found. I temporary removed installation file. You'd better redownload it in few hours, when I fix it. M I think that you should make it shareware, you deserve it. Here in Ukraine it is quite difficult for me with our laws :( However possible... -- Andrew Perevodchik Kiev, Ukraine Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/25 on Windows XP MyMacros 1.08 rc; BayesIt! 0.4gm; ajsMacro; MyGate 2.6.0.169 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [Macro] Some troubles with DaysTo macro
Hello! | %IF:%DaysTo(%ODATE='dd/mm/yy')10 : [Sorry, I'm late!]: Right. d Indeed, it's not working properly. You-re comparing numbers as strings, don't you? :) Use %IFN instead of %IF (don't even ask, this is not quite documented, AFAIK). -- Andrew Perevodchik Kiev, Ukraine Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/25 on Windows XP MyMacros 1.08 rc; BayesIt! 0.4gm; ajsMacro; MyGate 2.6.0.167 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [MyMacros] Can %DaysTo give negative value?
Hello! d I've thought to use %DaysTo, but I imagine that its output are only d positive value. d True? Yep :) d | %IF:%DaysTo(%ODATE='dd/mm/yy')10 : [Sorry, I'm late!]: Right. -- Andrew Perevodchik Kiev, Ukraine Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/21 on Windows XP MyMacros 1.08 rc; BayesIt! 0.4gm; ajsMacro; MyGate 2.6.0.164 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Christmas edition and speech
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello TBUDL list, Anyone using the latest Christmas edition with speech (specificly JFW)? The speech responsiveness has gone down a lot in this release, and the folder columns seem to be reset. Can I go back to the previous version? Thanks, Andrew. - -- Best regards, Andrew Hodgson, Bromyard, Herefordshire, UK. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 Comment: iQA/AwUBP9dTAxvTWk0UTIIuEQKfWQCfXcmSrMyjI/IRO+jefCokg8guGLsAoL5v Jy1e1YcAtbImXcoYqXtDEWs+ =5stT -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Winter glyphs
Hello! Here we go... for those who like Bat v2 original glyphs... snowy ones :) http://en.barin.com.ua/soft/winterglyphs/ -- Andrew Perevodchik Kiev, Ukraine Using The Bat! v2.02 CE RC2 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 MyMacros 1.08 rc; BayesIt! 0.4gm; ajsMacro; MyGate 2.6.0.163 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Winter glyphs
Hello! AP Here we go... for those who like Bat v2 original glyphs... snowy ones :) AP http://en.barin.com.ua/soft/winterglyphs/ PC I'm hesitant to install those, the screenshot was not in English.. No problem... updated to english :) -- Andrew Perevodchik Kiev, Ukraine Using The Bat! v2.02 CE RC2 on Windows XP MyMacros 1.08 rc; BayesIt! 0.4gm; ajsMacro; MyGate 2.6.0.163 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Winter glyphs
Hello! AP No problem... updated to english :) PC wow! that was fast! although looking at it, I see message, edit, search, PC then utilities. Looks to me like there is another icon in the middle, PC save maybe?? You mean fourth? With floppy disk? Yep, save. When I turn glyphs off I see the same. In fact I have TB v2.02 CE RC2... Cool, I've found my old snowy glyphs for v1.* :) Uploaded there too... -- Andrew Perevodchik Kiev, Ukraine Using The Bat! v2.02 CE RC2 on Windows XP MyMacros 1.08 rc; BayesIt! 0.4gm; ajsMacro; MyGate 2.6.0.163 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
The Bat! and EZMLM indexes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello TBUDL list, I run here a number of EZMLM mailing lists, and yesterday I needed to access the index of one of the lists. Well anyway I sent the request fine, but each time I looked at the resulting message, I ended up with just the EZMLM administration message added to all of the request messages. I spent about ten minutes playing about with my system until I realised it was generating digest messages, one part containing the index, the other containing the administration note I wrote about above. For some reason i was unable to get TB to switch to viewing the index. Here is a copy of the full message headers: Received: (qmail 9068 invoked by alias); 17 Nov 2003 12:29:43 - Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 9060 invoked by uid 80); 17 Nov 2003 12:29:42 - Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm Date: 17 Nov 2003 12:29:42 - Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: responder for [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 9052 invoked by alias); 17 Nov 2003 12:29:42 - Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 9023 invoked from network); 17 Nov 2003 12:29:41 - Received: from andrew.hodgsonfamily.org (192.168.1.3) by brookfield.hodgsonfamily.org (192.168.1.2) with ESMTP; 17 Nov 2003 12:29:41 - To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary=kdpliagkfcafnilfiici Subject: ptr1-users Result of: index.1_199 - --kdpliagkfcafnilfiici Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ptr1-users Result of: index.1_199 1: Software switched 4 May 2003 Andrew Hodgson 2: Re: Suggestion: Navigation keys and Menu key 5 May 2003 Guido Corona 3: Re: Suggestion: Navigation keys and Menu key 5 May 2003 Guido Corona 4: Re: Suggestion: Navigation keys and Menu key 5 May 2003 Jennifer Sutton 5: Re: UPDATE ON RNIB BRAILLE MANUAL and other matters 5 May 2003 daveed.sasquatch.com 6: Re: where to buy PTR1 5 May 2003 daveed.sasquatch.com [...] 199: adds 11 May 2003 Frank Senior - --- Administrative commands for the ptr1-users list --- I can handle administrative requests automatically. Please do not send them to the list address! Instead, send your message to the correct command address: For help and a description of available commands, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the list, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove your address from the list, just send a message to the address in the ``List-Unsubscribe'' header of any list message. If you haven't changed addresses since subscribing, you can also send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or for the digest to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For addition or removal of addresses, I'll send a confirmation message to that address. When you receive it, simply reply to it to complete the transaction. If you need to get in touch with the human owner of this list, please send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please include a FORWARDED list message with ALL HEADERS intact to make it easier to help you. - --- Enclosed is a copy of the request I received. Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 9052 invoked by alias); 17 Nov 2003 12:29:42 - Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 9023 invoked from network); 17 Nov 2003 12:29:41 - Received: from andrew.hodgsonfamily.org (192.168.1.3) by brookfield.hodgsonfamily.org (192.168.1.2) with ESMTP; 17 Nov 2003 12:29:41 - Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 12:29:39 + From: Andrew Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit - -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello , - - -- Best regards, Andrew Hodgson, Bromyard, Herefordshire, UK. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP7i/NBvTWk0UTIIuEQIncwCdG57AnQU2f/bHhSAuBqg+F3Zhx9cAoKQs 2CEx9yk2bxVJypiI5YSI6QbC =HrHl - -END PGP SIGNATURE- - --kdpliagkfcafnilfiici-- Again, The Bat only seems to rekognise the the administration part of that email, the index is not visible. Why? Tia, Andrew. - -- Best regards, Andrew Hodgson, Bromyard, Herefordshire, UK. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP7jBBRvTWk0UTIIuEQKjyQCgiUSAjJ2JjUNN5kIfFSU3+9cSED8AoMKf gRJTrE+cVu1iYDGMqnUcGYAW =v3sF -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
MyMacros 1.07
Hello!
MyMacros 1.07
http://barin.com.ua/soft/mymacros/
* rewritten macros descriptions
* added InputBox, ProgressBar, Eval, For, ForDown, While, Until,
MyMacrosVersion
* changed Numerical, Run
Descriptions of macros for making loops is at home page. Here is an
example of template to numerate lines of code:
===
%_Ncb=%Clipboard%-
%For(1,%CountLines('%_Ncb'),Ncbc,%-
%%TextBar(' ','%%_Ncbc','','4') %-
%%GetLine('%%_Ncbc','%%_Ncb')
)
%Cursor
===
It will result something like this:
===
1 function TTBPDataStorage.LocateID(ID: Integer): Integer;
2 var
3 I: Integer;
4 begin
5 Result := -1;
6 for I := 0 to FSize - 1 do
7 if FData[I].ID = ID then
8 begin
9 Result := I;
10 Break;
11 end;
12 end;
===
--
Andrew Perevodchik
Kiev, Ukraine
Using The Bat! v2.01.20 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600
MyMacros 1.07; BayesIt! 0.4gm; ajsMacro; MyGate 2.5.2.157
Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bat! as defauly News Reader
Hello! JP Using Bat! MyGate to get newsgroups. JP Any way at all to set Bat! up as default news reader? JP This option is not available in Internet Explorer. Bat is NOT newsreader so it won't be there until nntp support is implemented in it. Bat now cannot handle requests such as nntp://server However theoretically MyGate could be made NNTP reader :) If anyone knows how to do that, please write me directly. -- Andrew Perevodchik Kiev, Ukraine Using The Bat! v2.01.15 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 MyMacros 1.07 alpha; BayesIt! 0.4gm; ajsMacro; MyGate 2.5.2.157 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyMacros 1.06
Hello! G Now can we also make the case independent so I od not have to make G different search/replace strings for Gerard and gerard? No problem. In next version... ;) G As a bonus I am learning how to write these pesky litle macro´s ;-) -- Andrew Perevodchik Kiev, Ukraine Using The Bat! v2.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyMacros 1.06
Hello!
G All we need now is a combination of the %StrReplace and the %StrTr
G macro, because the %StrReplace only lets you replace one word. Or
G is there a way to place the result in a buffer and use it again in
G the %StrReplace macro?
Do you mean nested calls?
%StrReplace(%StrReplace('abc','a','X'),'c','Y')
If there are too many:
%_MyCoolText='abcdefg'%-
%_MyCoolText=%StrReplace(%_MyCoolText,'a','1')%-
%_MyCoolText=%StrReplace(%_MyCoolText,'b','2')%-
%_MyCoolText=%StrReplace(%_MyCoolText,'c','3')%-
%_MyCoolText=%StrReplace(%_MyCoolText,'d','4')%-
%_MyCoolText=%StrReplace(%_MyCoolText,'e','5')%-
%_MyCoolText=%StrReplace(%_MyCoolText,'f','6')%-
%_MyCoolText=%StrReplace(%_MyCoolText,'g','7')%-
%_MyCoolText
--
Andrew Perevodchik
Kiev, Ukraine
Using The Bat! v2.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600
Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
MyMacros 1.06
Hello! MyMacros 1.06 http://en.barin.com.ua/soft/mymacros/ * renamed %DaysLeft on %DaysTo * totally rewritten %StrReplace -- it's quite fast now * added macros %Chr, %Run, %KeybLayout, %RegRead, %RegWrite -- Andrew Perevodchik Kiev, Ukraine Using The Bat! v2.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyMacros 1.06
Hello! MyMacros 1.06 M Thanks mate :) Eeer... is that autoresponder...? :) -- Andrew Perevodchik Kiev, Ukraine Using The Bat! v2.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyMacros 1.06
Hello! G I tried the %StrReplace() macro, but it has a problem. If the occurance G is more then once things go pear shaped. G I used it this way: %StrReplace(%Text,test,XXX) Thanks mate... ;) Try it out now. -- Andrew Perevodchik Kiev, Ukraine Using The Bat! v2.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
New version of Entpack
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello TBUDL list, Today I upgraded to the latest TB2 and also downloaded the latest international pack to get UK spell dictionaries. Why is the whole intpack included in one slightly large file instead of say splitting up the dictionaries (which probably don't change often) into separate files? i only download this 3mb file for the UK dictionaries. Thanks, Andrew. - -- Best regards, Andrew Hodgson, Bromyard, Herefordshire, UK. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP5QkwxvTWk0UTIIuEQJVOwCfYNdvDyoC+NA3zIt226vuKJlJkt8An28b gOvwY7qUp5eJ3me7gLUzZccU =+LoN -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
MyGate 2.5.2
Hello! MyGate 2.5.2 http://en.barin.com.ua/soft/mygate/ Last time I fixed one bug which added three new; this time i fixed those three... :) * fixed bugs which made AV and other kinds of error messages * non-buggy (I hope so) sending of large (above megabyte) messages -- Andrew Perevodchik Kiev, Ukraine Using The Bat! v2.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
MyGate 2.5.1
Hello! MyGate 2.5.1 http://en.barin.com.ua/soft/mygate/ * optimized code responsible for receiving the message * gate properties window is sizeable now * no more lost messages * added Polish translation (Michal Kosinski) Those who have 2.5 are highly recommended to upgrade! -- Andrew Perevodchik Kiev, Ukraine Using The Bat! v2.00.18 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Auto Address New Messages
Hello! MDP %IF:'%TOADDR'='':%TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED]' If you have latest MyMacros installed (en.brain.com.ua/soft/mymacros), you can use %ToIfNone=[EMAIL PROTECTED]. -- Andrew Perevodchik Kiev, Ukraine Using The Bat! v2.00.18 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Delete up to cutmark
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello TBUDL list, Quite often when replying to messages I want to get rid of everything bellow the cursor up to the cutmark - signature position. In Agent, since the signature was added after the message had been sent, I used to just press shft+ctrl+end to sellect everything up to the end of the message, then the delete key to get rid of it. However, I cannot do this in TB because the sig block is visible in the text. Is there then a way to get rid of everything bellow the cursor in TB up to the sig block, perhaps preserving a line between the last piece of text and the sig separater? Thanks, Andrew. - -- Best regards, Andrew Hodgson, Bromyard, Herefordshire, UK. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP4FjehvTWk0UTIIuEQL2QQCeMqc/yqBu3TZvKndJ2Ep9vszdP88AnAon Udfd8OZNUZTjLKCru0CnL1sF =nJIB -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Keyboard not working in spell checker
Hello Edgar, Sunday, October 5, 2003, 10:00:28 PM, you wrote: E Hello All, E I find that if you use the spell checker some times the Underlined E letter (like I for ignore) is not underlined. Furthermore the alt+c to change does not work, I am in the process of submitting this as a bug report to TB bug tracker. Andrew. -- Best regards, Andrew Hodgson, Bromyard, Herefordshire, UK. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter question (MyGate)
Hello! JP Move to inbox aus\.comms[|,|\n] Location Recipient Presence Yes JP Options continue processing with other filters; Regular expressions Filter on X-MyGate-MID. It has colon (:) after group name. -- Andrew Perevodchik Kiev, Ukraine Using The Bat! v2.00.18 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: RitLabs The Bat password
Hello Marck, Saturday, October 4, 2003, 11:43:50 PM, you wrote: MDP Hi Andrew, MDP @4-Oct-2003, 23:15 Andrew Hodgson [AH] in MDP mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Vishal: MDP New messages are a bit trickier... V Do you have to do it this way? Won't just typing the address V in/selecting from the address book work? AH but once the address has been typed in correctly, I would like a AH specific template to be used, with list signatures and the like. AH It this possible without faffing with the address book? MDP What's to avoid? AB templates are *the* solution. Especially when MDP you can put all of your lists in a group and write templates for the MDP Lists group and have them apply to all lists you write to! Thanks, that is what I want. I have managed to convert my folder templates to address book templates with no hastle, and it is working as expected. Thanks, Andrew. -- Best regards, Andrew Hodgson, Bromyard, Herefordshire, UK. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: RitLabs The Bat password
Hello Allie, Sunday, October 5, 2003, 1:55:13 AM, you wrote: AM New message, then type 'TBUDL', address autocomplete kicks in to AM complete the address. I then tab into the message body area and voila, AM tbudl new message template applied. Yes, this is what I am doing now. Thanks, Andrew. -- Best regards, Andrew Hodgson, Bromyard, Herefordshire, UK. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: RitLabs The Bat password
Hello Gerrit, Sunday, October 5, 2003, 3:48:22 PM, you wrote: GK Hello Andrew, Andrew Thanks, that is what I want. I have managed to convert my folder Andrew templates to address book templates with no hastle, and it is Andrew working as expected. GK I have templates in all my folders also. How did you convert them to GK your addressbook. Was this easy to do or is it hard, i.e. delete/move GK from folder and paste them in your addresdbook? I did have to use cut/paste quite a bit, luckily I did not have many lists imported in TB so only had around three folders to sort out, but I had also been affected by sending wrong information to a list using the folder templates, which is why I wanted to convert. Andrew. -- Best regards, Andrew Hodgson, Bromyard, Herefordshire, UK. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: RitLabs The Bat password
Hello Gerrit, Sunday, October 5, 2003, 5:15:00 PM, you wrote: GK Hi Andrew, GK On Sun, 5 Oct 2003, at 16:45:54 [GMT +0100] (which was 17:45 where I GK live) you wrote: Andrew I did have to use cut/paste quite a bit, luckily I did not have many Andrew lists imported in TB so only had around three folders to sort out, Andrew but I had also been affected by sending wrong information to a list Andrew using the folder templates, which is why I wanted to convert. GK Thanks Andrew. But Roelof has given me a great solution by using GK groups templates. So i will get cutting and pasting where needed. Yes, I did think you meant group templates - this is what I am doing now. With the group templates, I can write specific list messages even without the list going into a specific folder! Andrew. -- Best regards, Andrew Hodgson, Bromyard, Herefordshire, UK. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Suggestion for better message list view reading
Hello Vishal, Saturday, October 4, 2003, 6:30:36 PM, you wrote: V Hi Thomas V Saturday, October 4, 2003, 12:25:04 AM, you wrote: TF So users of screen readers should be excepted from reading the rules? V Nobody said they should be excepted. I think the opinion was that they should be V 'excused' for not having read them. I agree with this. It's only being V understanding. What I actually meant in this message was that if I don't have time to read the rules in the welcome message because sometimes it can take longer to read it with a screen reader, and that I have to stay concentrated to the voice for that time, I won't post until I get a flavour of how the list operates. I didn't mean it as an excuse for not reading the rules if I am told off by a moderator later on. Andrew. -- Best regards, Andrew Hodgson, Bromyard, Herefordshire, UK. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
MyMacros
Hello! MyMacros 1.05 http://en.barin.com.ua/soft/mymacros/ Added few macros. Sources included ;) -- Andrew Perevodchik Kiev, Ukraine Using The Bat! v2.00.18 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: RitLabs The Bat password
Hello Vishal, Saturday, October 4, 2003, 10:13:48 PM, you wrote: V Hi Marck V Saturday, October 4, 2003, 1:40:46 PM, you wrote: MDP New messages are a bit trickier. MDP Instead of clicking to the folder then clicking for a new message, you MDP have to click to the right of the new message button and select the MDP list address from the favourites (having denoted that the address *is* MDP a favourite in the address book). V Do you have to do it this way? Won't just typing the address in/selecting from V the address book work? What I would really like is to start a new message; I don't mind typing in the list address, but once the address has been typed in correctly, I would like a specific template to be used, with list signatures and the like. It this possible without faffing with the address book? Also, are reply templates as problematic in a folder template as specific new message folder templates? Andrew. -- Best regards, Andrew Hodgson, Bromyard, Herefordshire, UK. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Viewing TheBat's activity while message sending and receiving
Hello Marck, Saturday, October 4, 2003, 7:15:57 PM, you wrote: MDP When TB is not minimised, neither is the CC but it comes and goes MDP pretty quickly. I soppose it depends on your connection speed; I connect to a Unix mail server on the same network and so it at most appears for a few seconds, and because I want everything done online, I keep the window hidden. However, if the connection is slower, surely it will show the window for longer? Not sure whether Eudora has the same problem; I know Outlook does, even for sighted users! Andrew. -- Best regards, Andrew Hodgson, Bromyard, Herefordshire, UK. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: JFW [performs differently in different views
Hello Pranav, Thursday, October 2, 2003, 1:09:07 PM, you wrote: PL Hi Andrew, PL As for the middle of the screen, it can be either horizontal or vertical. PL How do you turn off the preview pain? View message auto view. Andrew. -- Best regards, Andrew Hodgson, Bromyard, Herefordshire, UK. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Suggestion for better message list view reading
Hello Gerrit, Friday, October 3, 2003, 8:32:19 PM, you wrote: GK Hello Bill, GK Friday, October 3, 2003, 8:56:17 PM, you wrote: G I would have skipped it the moment I heard 'Terms and conditions ...' BBTE Why is that? Without rules, there is chaos. snip GK Sure. I don't think I make a general statement against rules. I mean GK to say that if I where browsing the 'Welcome to' message and took it's GK suggestion by heart to make sure you read the rules, it remains a GK question how to find them if the section itself starts with a headline GK Terms and conditions of and you're browsing using a screen reader ;)) Well you are right; I just chuck the list rules usually away because I am subscribed to a fair number of lists and know most of the list software commands for the general list servers such as Majordomo, Mailmon, Listserv, EZMLM et al. If there is a particular point in the rules, I usually pick it up in the postings I receive. I have never had any issue with this method, and as you said in another post, viewing the message with a screen reader can be annoying, especially when you have to chew through the parts about not sending commands to the list submission address/being on topic etc to get to the rules, which are usually 2 thirds of the way down the document anyway. If I can explicitly search for the rules (i.e, there are sections at the top of the message, or I am delivered a set of messages either in a digest or as separate mail messages, I will go through them in this instance. Andrew. -- Best regards, Andrew Hodgson, Bromyard, Herefordshire, UK. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: JFW [performs differently in different views
Hello Pranav, Thursday, October 2, 2003, 11:23:01 AM, you wrote: PL Hi all, PL I have found that JFW performs differently in different folder views. If I PL set my view to horizontal then jfw is very slow as in navigation among PL different mail boxes is very sluggish. If I however set the mail box to PL vertical splitter then navigation is fast. I have not found this as much, but I get more feedback imho when using the splitter down the middle of the screen (I can never remember whether this horizontal or vertical)?? This is also the default view. I also turned off the preview pane which also made it faster to navigate. Andrew. -- Best regards, Andrew Hodgson, Bromyard, Herefordshire, UK. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Screen readers and TheBat
Hello Krister, Wednesday, October 1, 2003, 9:33:54 AM, you wrote: KE Hi Andrew, KE In a message with mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] KE On 30 Sep 2003 23:39:42 (my local time 1 okt 2003 00:39:42), you KE typed: AH If I get the following: AH Subject Author AH Test Message Andrew Hodgson AH Test Message Another user AH Then when arrowing through those messages, my screen reader would AH read the first line out completely, but the second line would only AH read out the author of the new message, not the subject again, as AH this is the same. The same principal works for the author. KE I know you don't have the inbox threaded by reference, but how if at KE all, do you have it threaded? or do you have the same problem even if KE threading by reference? I have the same problem regardless of how it is threaded. When you spoke of TB not speaking in the message list view, I was wondering whether you had the same issue. Andrew. -- Best regards, Andrew Hodgson, Bromyard, Herefordshire, UK. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: More gibberish
Hello Marck, Tuesday, September 30, 2003, 12:12:19 AM, you wrote: MDP Hi Andrew, MDP @29-Sep-2003, 23:34 Andrew Hodgson [AH] in MDP mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: AH I have gone into account | properties | transport, but there is AH no option in v 2.00.6 to change the way 8 bit characters are AH handled (I need to change the setting to quoted printable). Am I AH in the wrong place? MDP Yes - try under Mail management. Thanks - got it, the help said it was in transport settings. One issue with that setting is that 8 bit characters can either be left as they are, which is the default, converted to quoted-printable or base64. However, if the leave as they are option is sellected, they get converted to base64 anyway. Andrew. -- Best regards, Andrew Hodgson, Bromyard, Herefordshire, UK. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reading delivery report failures
Hello Urban, Monday, September 29, 2003, 7:45:09 PM, you wrote: U Monday, September 29, 2003, Andrew Hodgson wrote: I.E, in Agent, I had the option to view the raw message, in TB, I get two attachments visible with .at extentions. What can I do? U View Message Source (F9) Thanks - that is what I wanted. Andrew. -- Best regards, Andrew Hodgson, Bromyard, Herefordshire, UK. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Screen readers and TheBat
Hello Krister, Sunday, September 28, 2003, 12:15:23 PM, you wrote: KE Hi Andrew, KE In a message with mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] KE On 27 Sep 2003 11:51:38 (my local time 12:51:38), you typed: AH example, on two messages next to each other in the message view AH window, with the same author and subject, I will not hear anything AH through my synthesiser when pressing the delete key. KE What view are you using when this problem occurs, the view folder xx KE or the main message view? KE In the folder view, i did have the same problem, but in the main KE message view window i've not had this problem. Also how do you thread? KE Do you thread by refference (alt+1)? If not, try this setting, this KE could even solve the problem quoted below. I do thread by reference in my list folders but not in the inbox folder. I am using the main message view - with the folders on the left and the message list on the right. AH Further to AH this, it would probably be a good idea to see if we could tell the AH screen reader that a message is part of a thread etc. KE If you have a thread sorted by refference, alt+1, you get a number of KE messages both read and unread in the part of the thread where you are, KE like this: KE Subject, From-name and addres, 1 1 Time and so on. the 1 1 KE indicates that there is one msg in the thread and that message is KE unread. Does this help? Yes - grately. Two other problems I have are that the source viewer (press f9) is not accessible to me at any rate, because when you press the down arrow it moves the whole screen down instead of the cursor, this is known to screen reader users as a static cursor, and is something that makes a lot of email clients inaccessible, and is one reason I like The Bat for email, as it does not have one on the main message viewer. Also, in the spell checker, when pressing alt+c to change a word to the sellected choice, it doesn't seem to happen, instead the same word comes up and up again for correction in the same place in the document. Andrew. -- Best regards, Andrew Hodgson, Bromyard, Herefordshire, UK. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sophos AV plug-in - possibly OT
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Martin, Tuesday, September 30, 2003, 10:16:04 AM, you wrote: MW Hello TBUDL, MW Is anyone using the Sophos AV plug-in with TB! 2.00.18? Is it still MW detecting viruses? On another tack, how do you get Sophos for home use? Whenever I try to buy the product I only get corperate sales, and the product costs in the region of £400-500. Thanks, and sorry for the off-topic posting. Andrew. - -- Best regards, Andrew Hodgson, Bromyard, Herefordshire, UK. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP3lpmBvTWk0UTIIuEQLelQCg1VxJ6vLExAAFdpZFjeW/mbFb9xcAn2Q+ 2BhzgpbGyBnTsYkA7wjBPH3P =8P76 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Screen readers and TheBat
Hello Krister, Tuesday, September 30, 2003, 2:05:49 PM, you wrote: KE -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- KE Hash: SHA1 KE Hi Andrew, KE In a message with mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] KE On 30 Sep 2003 12:28:09 (my local time 13:28:09), you typed: AH Two other problems I have are that the source viewer (press f9) is AH not accessible to me at any rate, because when you press the down AH arrow it moves the whole screen down instead of the cursor, this is AH known to screen reader users as a static cursor, and is something AH that makes a lot of email clients inaccessible, and is one reason I AH like The Bat for email, as it does not have one on the main message AH viewer. KE Sorry, i must be tired or something, i don't fully understand where KE the problem lies, on the other hand, I've never used the view source KE feature, so can't really say what this is supposed to do. It displays the email in its entirity including the header, and the different mime entities in the raw format. Press f9 on any email and a window will pop up displaying the full source of the email. If you go to the edit menu, you can sellect all, then copy and paste it into notepad, but it would be nice to read the contents of that window. AH Also, in the spell checker, when pressing alt+c to change a AH word to the sellected choice, it doesn't seem to happen, instead the AH same word comes up and up again for correction in the same place in AH the document. KE Hmm, haven't checked into this. A few seconds later... I've actually KE checked the spell checker dialog, and i think that your best bet is to KE tab around the dialog, this seems to work kinda nice. KE Sorry i couldn't be of more help. The tab key works to get you round the box, and if you press space on the buttons it works fine, but if you for example press alt+c, which is the shortcut for change, it doesn't work (or as far as I can see it doesn't). Andrew. -- Best regards, Andrew Hodgson, Bromyard, Herefordshire, UK. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: word document icon
Hello pradeep_minoo, Tuesday, September 30, 2003, 1:32:13 PM, you wrote: p Hello , p i often send document attachment and keep copy of the email sent.. p the print out so taken for the email sent doesnot contain the p document .. is icon (say word document icon) is possible p in the print out This is not possible, however, the default print-out should give you the name of any attachments in the email. Andrew. -- Best regards, Andrew Hodgson, Bromyard, Herefordshire, UK. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Screen readers and TheBat
Hello Chris, Tuesday, September 30, 2003, 3:47:53 PM, you wrote: CG i've also found that the spell check alt-c for the shortcut doesn't work also. CG one needs to tab through and press space on the change button and it'll chang Thanks - its not just my system then. I find it hard to see why this doesn't work; when you press alt+c to change the word, it appears to do something but then just goes back to that word again as if it did not change it. Andrew. -- Best regards, Andrew Hodgson, Bromyard, Herefordshire, UK. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate 2.5
Hello! KC My problem is that even though I have downloaded these messages, KC MyGate periodically downloads them again. Check out, if numbers of X-MyGate-MID are the same in duplicate messages. This header is added by MyGate 2.5, so I hope you have some recently-recieved dupes. KC I also noticed that the c:\documents and settings\user\local KC settings\temp directory was filling up with a tremendous amount of KC bat.tmp files *only* after MyGate ran. I think when I noticed this KC I had over 10,000 of them! Attempts to delete these files would fail KC as long as MyGate was loaded in the tray. I believe MyGate still KC retains some r/w access even though the downloading is finished. I have those tmps too. Can anyone confirm that those are because of MyGate? Strange thing is that MyGate doesn't use any temp files in tmp folder and is not supposed to affect TB behaviour at all, cause it runs as a separate task... -- Andrew Perevodchik Kiev, Ukraine Using The Bat! v2.00.18 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Screen readers and TheBat
Hello Thomas, Tuesday, September 30, 2003, 4:51:22 PM, you wrote: TF Hello Andrew, TF On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 12:28:09 +0100 GMT (30/09/2003, 18:28 +0700 GMT), TF Andrew Hodgson wrote: the source viewer (press f9) is not accessible to me at any rate, because when you press the down arrow it moves the whole screen down instead of the cursor, this is known to screen reader users as a static cursor, TF I have experienced this as well. The cursor should behave the same TF after pressing F9 as it does when reading a message in the preview TF pane or the folder view, IMHO. Thanks; I will add some bugs to the tracking system. Andrew. -- Best regards, Andrew Hodgson, Bromyard, Herefordshire, UK. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Screen readers and TheBat
Hello Chris, Tuesday, September 30, 2003, 7:00:13 PM, you wrote: CG is there a way that ritlabs can have the message list be a standard list view. CG sometimes when i arrow up and down the list of messages CG winow-eyes can't read the entire line, or it skipps over CG name/subject. or something, it's not usable. I am wondering whether this is because the subject/author are the same in the next message? If I get the following: Subject Author Test Message Andrew Hodgson Test Message Another user Then when arrowing through those messages, my screen reader would read the first line out completely, but the second line would only read out the author of the new message, not the subject again, as this is the same. The same principal works for the author. I have no idea why this is the case but I tested with both Jaws and Windoweyes and the same problem occured. Andrew. -- Best regards, Andrew Hodgson, Bromyard, Herefordshire, UK. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Reading delivery report failures
Hello tbudl list, What is the best way to read such failures - in this case created using a MS Exchange server? I.E, in Agent, I had the option to view the raw message, in TB, I get two attachments visible with .at extentions. What can I do? Thanks, Andrew. -- Best regards, Andrew Hodgson, Bromyard, Herefordshire, UK. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
More gibberish
Hello tbudl list, Someone on hear mentioned gibberish in emails going to mailing list; I have subsequently found out that this is because of base64 encoding of the message so as to preserve charsets; some versions of Outlook even don't support this. I have gone into account | properties | transport, but there is no option in v 2.00.6 to change the way 8 bit characters are handled (I need to change the setting to quoted printable). Am I in the wrong place? Thanks, Andrew. -- Best regards, Andrew Hodgson, Bromyard, Herefordshire, UK. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Screen readers and TheBat
Hello Krister et al, Saturday, September 27, 2003, 9:51:19 AM, you wrote: [snip previous message as it is not relevant to the point I am raising] Another issue I have found is that certainly in Jaws if a message that you delete has a particular subject/author combination, and the next message which is now the current message has either the same author or subject, the corisponding information is not read. For example, on two messages next to each other in the message view window, with the same author and subject, I will not hear anything through my synthesiser when pressing the delete key. Further to this, it would probably be a good idea to see if we could tell the screen reader that a message is part of a thread etc. Andrew. -- Best regards, Andrew Hodgson, Bromyard, Herefordshire, UK. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Dave, Friday, September 26, 2003, 4:42:04 PM, you wrote: DG * I seem to be unable to import messages into an IMAP folder. I DG would like to import locally stored messages from my POP account. DG I do Tools / Import / TBB and select the appropriate TBB. It says DG they are imported, but they apparently only display locally and DG have no persistance. After TB is closed and reopened, the DG imported messages are not there. Shouldn't imported messages DG write back to the server as part of synchronization? Or is this DG just the nature of the beast? Is there any way to do what I'm DG intending (aside from a redirect and losing date/time info)? I had the same issue, and for some other reasons including this one and the fact that filters won't work in Imap, I am using pop3 for the moment. Andrew. - -- Best regards, Andrew Hodgson, Bromyard, Herefordshire, UK. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP3RjXBvTWk0UTIIuEQJ9ygCgjhZqsgfXt/pWW/WoqdcPpIClKP0An1ew +U43iPvI188/zWRPVyjf3ml5 =jHOo -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Screen readers and TheBat
Hello Thomas, Friday, September 26, 2003, 5:29:55 PM, you wrote: [...] trainable in Jaws by labeling the graphics for checked and unchecked. TF Hm. I have reports from Jaws users that the Mail Despatcher is pretty TF unusable for them. But I understand that there is a standard which TF doesn't require to train Jaws; so is it a bug or not? - Jaws doesn't TF run on my Chinese Windows, so I cannot test it myself. Not just Jaws but any new windows screen reader. This is called MS Active Accessability (MSAA), and is how we generally read web pages. Hope this helps, Andrew. -- Best regards, Andrew Hodgson, Bromyard, Herefordshire, UK. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bat! - MyGate posting problem
Hello! M Today, for the first time, I started to get this error when trying to M send a reply to a newsgroup. I logged several sessions and the error M actually reported by the news server is: Thank you for detailed explanation. I'll try to do something about it. -- Andrew Perevodchik Kiev, Ukraine Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
ISO-8859-15 charset
Hello tbudl list, Does anyone know why this is the default charset for TB mail? What is the cignificance of this charset, and is it safe to tell TB to use no encoding on mails? Thanks, Andrew. -- Best regards, Andrew Hodgson, Bromyard, Herefordshire, UK. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PGP/Mime and extra line feed on TBOT
Hello Mary, Wednesday, September 24, 2003, 9:07:32 PM, you wrote: MB When I don't do both of these things, I get a double-spaced post on MB TBOT. I know, it is an old Yahoo! problem, and PGP/Mime may not always MB be the cause. But it seems to be, in my case. No post of mine was ever MB double-spaced before I got V. 2.00.6 of The Bat! and enabled PGP/Mime. MB And %NOUSEPGP, for the Bat lists, kept my signature delimiter out of MB trouble. Yes, I had the same problem also. I used the following %NOPGPMime in my Yahoo list templates, which solved the problem - I still sign messages but the messages don't show up as double spaced anymore. Andrew. -- Best regards, Andrew Hodgson, Bromyard, Herefordshire, UK. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Screen readers and TheBat
Hello Pranav, Wednesday, September 24, 2003, 11:55:11 PM, you wrote: PL Hi all, PL Is any one using Screen readers such as Jaws For Windows PL (http://www.freedomscientific.com) or Window Eyes (http://www.gwmicro.com) PL with TheBat? Yes! I am using Jaws 4.51 from www.freedomscientific.com, and Hal v5.20 from www.dolphinuk.com. Hope this helps, Andrew. -- Best regards, Andrew Hodgson, Bromyard, Herefordshire, UK. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Why MyGate with TB!?
Hello Dave, Wednesday, September 24, 2003, 9:12:58 PM, you wrote: DK Why do people use MyGate - The Bat! for their newsgroups? Probably so they can use the same interface/commands/templates et al for both mail/news use. I know that when changing from Agent to TB, this was one concern for me, that I will have to use both programs. One issue though I have with TB and newsgroups is that some people have been complaining that people are using some email specific features like numbered reply subjects (i.e, re[2]), which have caused disturbances on some newsgroups I frequent. If you are careful then I can't see the problem. Andrew. -- Best regards, Andrew Hodgson, Bromyard, Herefordshire, UK. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Screen readers and TheBat
Hello Pranav, Thursday, September 25, 2003, 7:50:26 AM, you wrote: PL Hi Thomas, PL This is very encouraging. Thus far, I have not had any access issues. I was PL wondering if there were any settings that I should set to ensure the best PL operation with a screen reader? The only other access adjustment I did was to disable the HTML viewer so that HTML messages are viewed in the plaintext editor which is accessible. Andrew. -- Best regards, Andrew Hodgson, Bromyard, Herefordshire, UK. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ISO-8859-15 charset
Hello Thomas, Thursday, September 25, 2003, 4:45:32 PM, you wrote: TF Hello Andrew, TF On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 07:49:11 +0100 GMT (25/09/2003, 13:49 +0700 GMT), TF Andrew Hodgson wrote: Does anyone know why this is the default charset for TB mail? TF You seem to have sent your message with us-ascii encoding. That is because I switched it off after a request from a user. I have now switched it back on however. What is the cignificance of this charset, TF It is Western European and contains such characters as the TF eruo-symbol, the Pound-Sterling-symbol, and German umlauts, to name TF just a few. Thanks. Actually I did a test by sending in US-Ascii, then putting a £ sign in the mail, and it then came back as ISO-8859-15. Note that on the templates menu, if you sellect no encoding, it gets sent as US-ASCII, which is what my friend told me to use. I am not also sure whether it was due to the fact that TB encoded my message in base64 with the £ sign in it that caused him the problem or the handling of the charset itself. and is it safe to tell TB to use no encoding on mails? TF I don't know how you would do that, I wouldn't recommend it: How TF should the recipient's email client know how to encode/display your TF message, especially if it contains high ASCII characters? See previous - No encoding means US-ASCII in TB when sellecting the charset from the template editor. Perhaps this could be better phrased? Anyway, is the ISO-8859-15 charset the default in all TB installations? Thanks, Andrew. -- Best regards, Andrew Hodgson, Bromyard, Herefordshire, UK. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
MyGate 2.5
Hello! Finally... MyGate v2.5 released. Welcome to http://en.barin.com.ua/soft/mygate/ What is short list of changes: * some options were not saved or did not work * authorization mechanism in SMTP NNTP gate updated * advanced subscription settings is back from MyGate 2.3 * removed slang from MyGate responses, which now also include NNTP error messages * fixed Range check error and Bit array access error * crossposting is supported since now * added X-MyGate-MID for filtering crossposted messages * program was translated on Italian (Marcello Rossi) and German (Thomas Martin, Andreas Rumpenhorst) -- Andrew Perevodchik Kiev, Ukraine Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate 2.5
Hello! AP What is short list of changes: Eeerr, oops... did I say that? 8) /me Gone to have some beer... -- Andrew Perevodchik Kiev, Ukraine Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate 2.5
Hello! A * added X-MyGate-MID for filtering crossposted messages PF Is this related to an MSID token of any sort? You can correctly filter crossposted messages with it. It shows which gruop message was downloaded from. -- Andrew Perevodchik Kiev, Ukraine Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bat! - MyGate posting problem
Hello! JP MyGate came back with error message (similar to) Posting failed - JP server suspiciously refused to accept MyGate creates logs in /log/ subdir (if you turned this option on). Look through it yourself or send it to me directly. JP Any clues on this (not cross posting). Interested in the word JP suspiciously. Heh, v2.5 will be a bit more specific in messages ;) Patience, please. It will be ready tomorrow or after tomorrow 100%. -- Andrew Perevodchik Kiev, Ukraine Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Getting rid of license type in X-mailer
Hello tbudl list, I notice that some people on this list have (e.g X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.00.6) - missing out the educational, business, personal etc license type. How is this done? Thanks, Andrew. -- Best regards, Andrew Hodgson, Bromyard, Herefordshire, UK. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Getting rid of license type in X-mailer
Hello Roelof, Monday, September 22, 2003, 6:28:48 PM, you wrote: RO Hallo Andrew, RO On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 18:15:22 +0100GMT (22-9-03, 19:15 +0200, where I RO live), you wrote: AH I notice that some people on this list have (e.g X-Mailer: The Bat! AH (v2.00.6) - missing out the educational, business, personal etc AH license type. How is this done? RO It's just what my TB creates. I've done nothing to manipulate it. Ok, which license type do you have? Andrew. -- Best regards, Andrew Hodgson, Bromyard, Herefordshire, UK. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Disabling PGP mime support
Hello tbudl list, I need to disable PGP mime support in v 2.00.6 as some mailing lists are removing the PGP parts of the message (i.e, Yahoogroups not allowing attachments on some lists). Is this possible? Thanks, Andrew. -- Best regards, Andrew Hodgson, Bromyard, Herefordshire, UK. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Open pgp version support
Hello gv-batter-up, Sunday, September 21, 2003, 3:00:55 PM, you wrote: gbumi Hello Allie, gbumi Sunday, September 21, 2003, 8:44:12 AM, you wrote: MT www.pgpi.com MT www.pgp.com A These are the URL's to obtain official PGP versions. A You'll not find the ckt builds there. gbumi http://ipgpp.veniece.com/ Which will lead to: ftp://ftp.zedz.net/pub/crypto/pgp/pgp60/pgp658_ckt/ What are the differences between the native PGP support in TB, the PGP 8.xx builds, the NUPG builds and the CKT builds? Different peoples creations or what? Thanks, Andrew. -- Best regards, Andrew Hodgson, Bromyard, Herefordshire, UK. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Disabling PGP mime support
Hello Marck, Sunday, September 21, 2003, 3:13:35 PM, you wrote: MDP Hi Andrew, MDP @21-Sep-2003, 15:02 Andrew Hodgson [AH] in MDP mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: AH I need to disable PGP mime support in v 2.00.6 as some mailing AH lists are removing the PGP parts of the message (i.e, AH Yahoogroups not allowing attachments on some lists). Is this AH possible? MDP Use the %NOPGPMIME macro in your template for those lists. Thanks, is there any way to disable it globally? -- Best regards, Andrew Hodgson, Bromyard, Herefordshire, UK. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Open pgp version support
Hello Barry, Sunday, September 21, 2003, 7:57:27 PM, you wrote: BW Hello Melissa, BW Sunday, September 21, 2003, 7:38:22 PM, you wrote: No. There is full code release *for peer review* for the current v8.0.2, as it was for v8.0 (the first offerings of PGP Corporation after purchasing PGP from NAI). BW Thanks for the information. I may now upgrade to v8.0.2 Does anyone know if it is possible to download this release, or must I buy it on CD? I was thinking of buying the personal edition as I miss the PGPdisk that I had under W98. Thanks, Andrew. -- Best regards, Andrew Hodgson, Bromyard, Herefordshire, UK. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate Bat! Content Type Header
Hello, John! JP What exactly is a content type header? This is a feature for non-English newsgroups. It was made for Russian fido7, where content-type header is not present in messages. MyGate checks if message already has content-type set, and if not -- then inserts it with default value, so Bat can display message with correct encoding. If you don't need it (you probably don't if you ask what's that ;), just leave it empty. JP Incidentally, the screenshot on MyGate web site is for V.2.5, but only JP 2.4 seems to be available for download at this time? 2.5 release will be ready in few days. I'll announce it here. ps: I've seen the discussion here about replacing mid suffix and promise to do something by v2.6. Just stop writing me about that directly :) -- Andrew Perevodchik Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Best spam/PGP plugins?
Hello tbudl, What are in your opinion the best spam/PGP plugins to use with TB version 2? I am using AVG7 pro for antivirus. Also, what has happened to the secure bat? Is this discontinued, or can you purchase a token and use it with the regular version? Thanks, -- Best regards, Andrew Hodgson, Bromyard, Herefordshire, UK. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with AVG upgrade
Hello Joan, Saturday, September 20, 2003, 8:41:21 PM, you wrote: JJ Hello Quin, JJ On Mon, 15 Sep 2003, at 12:13:04 [GMT -0600] JJ (which was 15/09/2003 (D/M/Y) 20:13 where I live) you wrote: QS I ran into problems on another computer when QS trying to update by the method you first mentioned. It's much cleaner QS and safer to use the AVG Control Center for updating. JJ Just to round the thread off, I brought the thread to the TBOT list JJ (as advised by Jamie Dainton) where the riddle was solved. I updated JJ the AVG plug-in for TB from JJ ftp://ftp.gin.cz/pub/mswindows/the_bat/plugins/antivirus/avgbat10us.exe Also you can get the latest Bat Plugin if you have AVG7 pro on the system. The installer will detect the presence of TB on the target system and offer to install the plugin for you. Hope this helps. -- Best regards, Andrew Hodgson, Bromyard, Herefordshire, UK. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Templates
Hello tbudl list, Here are my newby questions on templates: 1. Is it possible to have my signature block composed using a template, so that the location information I have put in my current signature is derived from my Vcard? 2. Is the best way to get the hello text correct to create addressbook entries for the specific users? What is the best way to work this for email list subscriptions? Just purchased the bat, that only took me three years of off and on use ! -- Best regards, Andrew Hodgson, Bromyard, Herefordshire, UK. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
The Bat!'s lost its subfolders.
Hello, This morning, I had a problem, and my Windows 2000 system had to be hard-rebooted. The Bat! had been running previously, but was not running when this occurred. As the computer restarted, I saw it mentioning that one of the account.* files from The Bat!'s mail directory -- where it stores messages -- was corrupted and would be truncated. When I restarted The Bat! It no longer had the slightest notion that there were mailboxes or subfolders other than Inbox Outbox Sent Mail and Trash. The folders are all still there, but The Bat! can't see them. Suggestions? -- Jonathan Andrew Sheen http://www.leviathanstudios.com Leviathan of the GEI (Detached.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] What'dya expect? I'm a New Yorker! -Anonymous New York Firefighter, 9/12/01 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
The Bat Hangs when Cleaning Up the Inbox
Whenever I try to shut down The Bat! it hands trying Clean Up the Inbox. I have to kill The Bat in Task Manager to shut it down. I have a folder in place t move messages out of the inbox when they've been marked read, so there should be nothing in there. Any suggestions for fixing this? -- Jonathan Andrew Sheen http://www.leviathanstudios.com Leviathan of the GEI (Detached.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] What'dya expect? I'm a New Yorker! -Anonymous New York Firefighter, 9/12/01 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: backup strategy
GS By doing this I can have everything up in running from scratch in less GS than an hour. My only problem is that I will be upgrading to WinXP GS shortly. I have worked on NT systems at work, but never used at home, so GS I am not sure this strategy will work when the new system arrives. It sounds like you have a very similar strategy to me about backing up. Using a 2nd hard disk with Ghost (from http://www.symantec.com) is an ideal way of grabbing everything. I use command line parameters to drive Ghost which means I can auto-reboot the PC once it is complete, rather than sitting having to watch the paint dry. One thing you need to be aware of with XP is that you have to use Ghost 2002. Earlier versions won't touch the partitions, or at least when I tried it with Ghost 2001 they wouldn't - Microsoft appear to have munged the hard disk format to confuse things. Ghost 2002 is a PITA because you start having to enter your serial number when you restore images. That is because the Ghost license is supposed to be for a single PC only. Which is why I use Ghost 2001 for all my systems, and Ghost 2002 just for the one XP system. There are other (much cheaper) alternatives to Ghost. You might try Drive Backup from http://www.paragon-gmbh.com/n_frame.htm - those guys have some other very useful utilities which I highly recommend. Andrew http://www.kazmax.com Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Won't Send under Windows XP
Hi Markus, Wednesday, May 15, 2002, 10:04:07 AM, you wrote: MG Hi, MG Leviathan wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Getting even weirder. I have a secondary account set up on my The Bat! client. I _can_ send from that. The SMTP settings under the Transport property are identical. Now, where are we? MG What does the Bat's log tell you? Only that the message didn't send. MG Did you perhaps accidentally activate SMTP authentication? No, I checked for that. The accounts settings are identical to those of the account that works. More fun. I re-named the non-working account, created a new version -- which came fully populated with folders and filters as soon as I named it -- and deleted the original troublemaker. The new account does the same thing. It also doesn't seem to know how many messages it has queued, as the activity-monitor thingie shows it's attempting to send 1/? -- and no, it isn't the individual message because I've been deleting unsuccessful messages and creating new test messages to check that -- and hangs there, counting off the duration of the attempt for as long as I'll let it, without ever making friends with the SMTP Server. -- Jonathan Andrew Sheen http://www.leviathanstudios.com Leviathan of the GEI (Detached.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] What'dya expect? I'm a New Yorker! -Anonymous New York Firefighter, 9/12/01 Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
And now for a completly different question.
Hi, Guys, Well, the Can't send under XP problem turned out to be a Hosed account must be completely deleted and then recreated problem, and I've got it knocked. Now I just want to know if I can tell The Bat! to mark messages previously seen by another e-mail client as read. -- Jonathan Andrew Sheen http://www.leviathanstudios.com Leviathan of the GEI (Detached.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] What'dya expect? I'm a New Yorker! -Anonymous New York Firefighter, 9/12/01 Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
1.53t Anomalies in 1.60k
Hello. I recently upgraded from 1.53t to 1.60k. Some of the anomalies that I reported for version 1.53t in January ( http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/msg33264.html ) have been fixed. Others have changed behavior or remain unchanged; they are listed below approximately in the order they were originally presented. 1. Nicked nicknames (unchanged) If the letters in a nickname are identical to the initial letters of the e-mail address, the nickname will not autocomplete correctly. It will autocomplete to the e-mail address only, omitting the display name. 2. Hidden addresses... not (unchanged) Addresses in AB groups that have the option Hide items if not explicitly selected checked will still be displayed when the Address Picker icon to the right of the To: field in the message editor is pressed. 3. Editable header fields... not? (unchanged) The message editor's editable header fields are not displayed as editable. Editable fields are typically displayed differently from non-editable fields. TB! does not distinguish between the two, which is extremely confusing and very easy to change. 4. Two many deleted messages or totalled totals (changed behavior) Set up TB! to save attachments in a separate directory. Receive a message with an attachment into a folder. Note the number of messages in the folder. Double-click to view the message just received. Delete the attachment in the viewer, then delete the message by clicking on the viewer trash can icon. The message title will remain displayed in the folder's right pane and the message will still show an attached file, but the folder shows 1 less message in the left pane's total. Click on another message in the same folder, then click on the original message. The attached file icon will disappear. Delete the message by clicking on the trash can icon. The total number of messages in the folder will decrement by one, but the total is now one less than the number of messages left in the folder. Click in another folder, then click back in the original folder. The deleted message has disappeared from view. The total number of messages increments by one and is now correct. The attached file has not been deleted from the attached file directory. Two copies of the message body will be found in the Trash folder. 5. Two mailtos (changed behavior) TB! adds the command string: HKCR\mailto\shell\open\command\D:\Internet\The Bat!\thebat.exe %1 when TB! is set to be the default mail client. On my system, this results in a message window and an error message if TB! is not running and a mailto link is clicked. Only a single message window is created if TB! is already running. I don't think the %1 parameter is needed. A better command string might be: HKCR\mailto\shell\open\command path\thebat.exe /nologo This works correctly on my system with mailto links whether or not TB! is running. 6. Save message, lose data (unchanged) Open a message and click on Save as... and select a filename.ext that exists already. There will be two successive dialog boxes. The first will ask if the message should be overwritten. The default is YES, which destroys data. If NO is selected, the second dialog box will ask if the message should be appended. The default here is YES. Only a single dialog box is necessary: The file filename.ext already exists. Do you want to append or overwrite this file? Append (default) Overwrite Cancel. The 1.60 Readme file lists the following fix: - 'Save message as' bug when a file with the same name already exists. Apparently, this fix does NOT refer to the anomaly reported here. 7. Underspec of the overlap (unchanged) When scrolled vertically with the space key, messages that display with a *horizontal* scroll-bar will not have any vertical overlap. A single line of overlap helps retain context while reading. 8. Favourites list unfavoured BCC (changed behavior) If both the Account New message template _and_ the AB entry New message template contain BCC macros and a new message is created using the Favourites drop-down list, the AB BCC macro is ignored. If a new message is created by pressing on the Create a new message icon, the Account New message BCC macro will be used instead of the AB entry BCC macro. ** FIRST REPORT ** 9. Unfiltered filters (unchanged) Strings entered manually into the String field of a mail filter are appropriately filtered for non-alphanumeric characters. However, strings entered via a paste from the clipboard allow carriage returns, which are ignored when the filter is used. All comments are welcome. regards, Andy P.S.: I'm on the digest in this forum. If you want me to respond right away, put my e-mail address on CC or BCC. My replies won't thread properly in TB!, but they thread on the web. I apologize in advance for any inconvenience this may cause. [Using The Bat! 1.60k under Windows 2000 Pro SP2 on a made from scratch PIII-500 MHz/384 MB RAM]
RE: can klez run from the Bat if Outlook/outlook express is installedon the same computer?
Thanks for the advise Jonathan I was just concerned that if it tried to call the outlook.exe file then I'd be stuffed :-) The email is already deleted off my mail server - the only reason I was concerned is that the attachment when viewed on the mail server seemed to be rather larger than just a file saying this email had a virus but seemed to be the original size (or thereabouts) of the infected payload. I haven't had a chance to look at the headers yet as I was reluctant to do too much with this possible payload - most of my friends have easily identifiable isps too! I'll have a play tonight.I could always ghost my pc, unplug my modem and try but that sounds like a bit too much of an effort! Andy Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: 1.60c and importing mail from Netscape 6.2.1
Markus Gloede wrote: One last thing (am I really helping somebody here to get rid of the Bat? ah, well): you might check if the Bat! is currently known to your system as default mail handler/MAPI request recipient. Sorry, I can only tell you how to check this from MS IE, so you have to look through Netscape's settings. Regards, Markus Thanks Markus but, no, I would never let a program that I was only test driving change something like that!g Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
1.60c and importing mail from Netscape 6.2.1
I'm sure that this has been addressed before but I could not find it in the archives and the FAQ doesn't seem to be Netscape friendly. I just downloaded the demo of TB 1.60c but the import wizard does not allow me to import anything from Netscape 6.2.1. Is this a known issue and is there a solution? Also, since there does not seem to be an un-install and un-installing from Windows control panel produces an error message, is there a list of all files and registry keys created by the install to allow for complete manual removal? TIA. Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 1.60c and importing mail from Netscape 6.2.1
Ok but my understanding was that this was a _feature_ of TB. The import wizard does indicate Netscape 6.x as being supported. So, the question remains: is there an official word on this issue? The product is of no interest to me without a working import - not on a trial basis and certainly not for purchase. BTW, my impression from what I've read on the web is that importing from Netscape (6.1?) worked on previous releases of TB (1.53?) ?? Is this correct, and if so, what happened to break this feature? Lynna Lunsford wrote: I had the same problem,.No way to export from Netscape and no built in import from Netscape to TB. Unless you save emails individually and then open them as a .eml or similar file in TB... Unless someone else has a way that I could not find. Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
List of files and registry keys for un-install??
Is there a complete list somewhere of files installed and registry keys created or modified by installing The Bat? I get an error message trying to un-install from Windows control panel and I'd like to remove all traces... TIA. Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 1.60c and importing mail from Netscape 6.2.1
Marck D Pearlstone wrote: Not AFAIK. This hasn't come up before that I can remember... unless anyone else knows otherwise. You might try a UNIX format export from NS and import from there. It was mentioned a couple of times on the tbbeta list with no responses as in this message from April 02: is there anybody out there who succeeded in importing folders/messages from within Netscape v6.2 into TB! As reported from users, import function from within The Bat! (Netscape 6) does not work as expected. Any experience reports are welcome :-) Also mentioned in this message from March 02: Well, the mail import from netscape 6.2.1 does not work. The import mailboxes window lists local folders but doesn't list accounts. To be precise it lists nothing except default and local folders If I press next I get an error popup that states No boxes selected to be converted C:\Program Files\The Bat!\*.* HKCU\Software\RIT\*.* plus any associations you may have opted for TB to usurp. Ok, those are the obvious ones. I was looking for a list of anything that gets installed in windows\system or anywhere *other* than the program directory. Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 1.60c and importing mail from Netscape 6.2.1
Michael Disabato wrote: The import wizard in 1.60c appears to be broke. I would strongly recommend getting 1.53d off Tucows and try that. Mike Thanks Michael. Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 1.60c and importing mail from Netscape 6.2.1
Peter Palmreuther wrote: Does this in any manner help and work? No. There is nothing except in the program directory. As Marck already mentioned: maybe file type associations you told The Bat! to fetch for itself, but files are _exclusively_ stored in installation directory. No associations were changed so it is a relief to know that I don't have to do any digging to get rid of The Bat. BTW: It would be great if your Mozilla could be told to use a so called signature delimiter '-- ' (dashdashspaceenter and if you could trim your quotes to the necessary to make it easier to read and follow you mails. Whatever. Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: startup prompt re file extensions .eml and .vcf
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Peter. Now, this may appear to be a stupid question, but what is a virtual visiting/business card? It sounds to me like it is another form of advertising that accompanies the large number of spam messages that I receive daily No. vcard is basically a format allowing for data to be exchanged between programs that are vcard aware. For example, a contact manager and an e-mail client. for an overview of vcard go here: http://www.imc.org/pdi/vcardoverview.html vCard automates the exchange of personal information typically found on a traditional business card. vCard is used in applications such as Internet mail, voice mail, Web browsers, telephony applications, call centers, video conferencing, PIMs (Personal Information Managers), PDAs (Personal Data Assistants), pagers, fax, office equipment, and smart cards. vCard information goes way beyond simple text, and includes elements like pictures, company logos, live Web addresses, and so on. Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 1.60c and importing mail from Netscape 6.2.1
Mandara wrote: Maybe is a solution for Andrew to install some 1.5x Bat version and do import that mail from NC; then he can switch to new version, if he'd like it. Mandara (v1.53d) Yes, thanks, I had thought of that but the only version that I could find was 1.53 and it doesn't import from Netscape 6.2.1 - at least not through the wizard and I'm not looking to jump through hoops here. Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: List Rules and threading (to Marck)
GJim wrote:
I haven't been impressed since I was in the British Navy.
With a tip of the hat,
GJim c):{-
Silly me, I thought the press gang went out soon after Nelson lost his
eye...
As for List Rules - excuse me for not realizing that the list wouldn't
start a new thread when I changed the message title... sheeesh. I'm on
multiple lists - some do, some don't - sorry if I ruined anyone's day.
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