Re: Re: Licence unhappiness?
Maybe RitLabs is not well suited to build a good e-mail client capable of competing in todays market. Jack IMO, until they learn how to spell the word D-O-C-U-M-E-N-T-A-T-I-O-N, Jack they're dead meat. Jack And that would truly be a damn shame. That's one of the worst things about the way they released 3.0 to the outside world -- who releases a new version with no documentation, or rather including the documentation from the last version? All of the above is one of the reasons that I am thinking of leaving The Bat! I am beginning to think it is an unstable program, it just continues to give me problems. Jimmie Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Virtual Folders
Peter on Sat, 24 Jul 2004 07:28:59 -0700GMT, you wrote: SNIP Peter Virtual Folders summon messages that apply to certain search criteria Peter like unread or flagged or parked or whatever from one or more Peter accounts. Peter For my own purposes I have only one VF that shows flagged messages Peter from all accounts. When I view my emails, I sometimes flag a message, Peter when I intend to do anything with it later. I find them all in my Peter flagged VF. Care to elaborate on how you have the filters and such set up for this operation, sounds like something I would like. -- Thanks to one and all Jimmie :usflag: Classic: A book which people praise but don't read. - Mark Twain Using The Bat! 2.12.00 under , Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium 133 with 128MB. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bat! taking 100% resources
On 7/20/04, at 10:45 AM, Julian Beach (Lists) sent the following: Julian On Tuesday, July 20, 2004, 1:57:33 PM, John Phillips wrote: Because of this can't download mail without Bat! crashing. SNIP Julian One of the common causes of problems with 100% resource usage is Julian BayesIT. If you are using it, try disabling it and see if that makes Julian a difference. Sometimes you will have to remove it from your system Julian to get rid of the effects. SNIP That was the cause of my problem. BayesIT had created 95 meg of temp files, you can delete BayesIT altogether (which is what I did) or rename it to NoBayesIT or anything you want. -- Another time, another day Jimmie :usflag: Nothing is permanent except change. Using The Bat! 2.12.00 under w/ BayesIt! 0.5.4 Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium 133 with 128MB. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BayesIt
On 7/11/04, at 1:29 PM, Code 2 sent the following: Code I finally got BayesIt trained and it caught its first bit of spam Code today. :) A few questions: SNIP I finally gave up on the Bayeslt it was not catching that much spam and classed personal good mail as spam. I had be trying for a couple of months to train it. Code And for you Ritlabs guys watching: you've *got* to get the help files Code updated and/or a manual produced. BayesIt would be a lot less Code intimidating with some instruction. Some instruction would be nice not just for Bayeslt but the entire program. -- Thanks to one and all Jimmie :usflag: :Jimmie_Toney: Love has reasons which reason cannot understand. - Blaise Pascal Using The Bat! 2.11.02 under BayesIt! 0.5.5, Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium 133 with 128MB. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Toolbar unadjustable?
On 7/7/04, at 4:23 PM, Carsten Thönges sent the following: SNIP Carsten Real TB! users hide toolbars. They use keyboard shortcuts instead. I am think I am a real TB! user and I use the toolbar all the time and would love to be able to customize it. -- Thanks to one and all Jimmie :usflag: :Jimmie_Toney: When in danger or in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout. -Robert Heinlein. Using The Bat! 2.11.02 under BayesIt! 0.5.5, Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium 133 with 128MB. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mass mailing and chats folder
TBUDL Can someone help me figure out why when I do a mass mailing I end up with a copy of each mailing in the chats folder? The mailing goes out in fine shape but deleting the messages out of the chats folder is a pain. I would delete the chats folder but I think it would just appear at the next mailing. -- Thanks to one and all Jimmie Small minds discuss people, average minds discuss events, great minds discuss ideas. Using The Bat! 2.11.02 BayesIt! 0.5.5, Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium 133 with 128MB. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Problem with mass mailing
Can someone help me figure out why when I do a mass mailing I end up with a copy of each mailing in the chats folder? The mailing goes out in fine shape but deleting the messages out of the chats folder is a pain. I would delete the chats folder but I think it would just appear at the next mailing. Thanks Jimmie Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: An overview of the file structure please
Hello TBUDL On Tuesday, June 22, 2004 at 9:50:06 AM, clairvoyants were mystified when TBUDL [JR] conjured: RO As I just did a fresh install, I respectfully have to disagree with RO you. I thought it went kind of easy. JR Are you sure that's due to your familiarity with the program? I just did one a few days ago and I have only been using The Bat! a little over 30 days and it went very fast and easy for me. -- Until we do this again Jimmie From C:\*.* to shining C:\*.* Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smileys? Mail Chat?? What's becoming of The Bat!?
On 6/4/04, at 5:04 PM, Allister Jenks sent the following: AJ Saturday, June 5, 2004, 7:32:13 AM, Mark wrote: MP Besides, you can disable both features completely if you wish. And MP it isn't hard to do so. AJ Yes, but the inclusion of these features has diverted resource from more AJ functional and useful features, and from bug elimination. Also for the few of us with limited hard drives we could use the space for other things. Overall size in megs, it being smaller than some of the others that I looked at, is one of the reasons that I choose TB!. -- Thanks to one and all Jimmie »Stay« is a charming word in a friend's vocabulary. - Bronson Allcott Using The Bat! 2.11.02 under BayesIt! 0.5.5, Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium 133 with 128MB. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: coffee mugs in TB
On 6/3/04, at 10:23 AM, Martin Webster sent the following: MW The images aren't present in the message. TB! converts certain text MW sequences into an emoticon; e.g. :-) : - ), (c) ( c ) etc. Thus, it works MW for plain text messages too. That part I understand but the part I don't understand is that they don't seem to show up on this list on my system. -- Thanks to one and all Jimmie Nothing is permanent except change. Using The Bat! 2.11 under BayesIt! 0.5.5, Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium 133 with 128MB. Current version is 2.11.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: coffee mugs in TB
On 6/3/04, at 10:42 AM, Leif Gregory sent the following: LG Hello Jimmie, LG Thursday, June 3, 2004, 9:24:34 AM, you wrote: Jimmie That part I understand but the part I don't understand is that Jimmie they don't seem to show up on this list on my system. LG So far, we've discovered that the most common cause for this is the LG shortcut people are using to launch TB... I have checked all that you suggested and still have a slight problem. I am on three TB list, of the three only one the anything goes list shows the icons. The other two do not and when I right click is grayed out so the option is not available. Should I maybe take this over to the beta list? -- Thanks to one and all Jimmie Life isn't about finding yourself. Life is about creating yourself. (George Bernard Shaw) Using The Bat! 2.11 under BayesIt! 0.5.5, Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium 133 with 128MB. Current version is 2.11.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spam Filtering
On 5/21/04, at 1:01 AM, Gene Brown sent the following: GB BayesIT had been working pretty well for me up until upgrading to the GB current TB version with the built-in plug-in. I tried to bring it up to GB speed by running through all my old junk mail as well as a collection of GB good mail, but it still wasn't catching much after about a week of operation GB and I was wondering what was wrong. Go to check and see what version of BayesIT you have, I will guess that it is something other than 0.4. That is what I found out, once I deleted out the BayesIT that was installed with the program and put 0.4 in things seem to be working fine now. It was just last night that I did this so haven't had much chance to really check it, but it has caught some and before I wasn't catching any. If you go to the website and then to Knowledge Base you will find an article about the BayesIT filter and where to get the latest version. Good Luck -- Thanks to one and all Jimmie Don't waste time worrying about future difficulties - they may never come. Using The Bat! 2.10.03 under BayesIt! 0.4gm, Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium 133 with 128MB. Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Spam Filtering
On 5/21/04, at 5:25 AM, Andre Wichartz sent the following: JT Go to check and see what version of BayesIT you have, I will guess that it is JT something other than 0.4. That is what I found out, once I deleted out the JT BayesIT that was installed with the program and put 0.4 in things seem to be JT working fine now. AW But 0.4 is pretty old and 0.5 works much better. From my experience you AW have to retrain when you upgrade to 0.5, though. I didn't know there was an 0.5 but when I installed TB! there was a much older version that it installed. Will go look for 0.5 was just there last night and thought 0.4 was the latest. -- Thanks to one and all Jimmie The harder you work the luckier you become. Using The Bat! 2.10.03 under BayesIt! 0.4gm, Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium 133 with 128MB. Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Backup script
On 5/19/04, at 8:52 AM, Allie Martin sent the following: Allie AM Many get by without the 'fancy' backing up that you do because they AM don't have the same backup requirements as you do. A couple of those AM batch scripts will therefore work just fine and will not amount to a AM headache. Take my wife for example. I just backup TB! and her AM Documents directory daily to a 750MB zip. Do I need Second Copy for AM that. NO! A single batch script, with a few lines of text run with the AM system scheduler works just fine, thanks. :) It's all a matter of AM needs. What's fine for one, is a hassle for the other. AM I think I'm finished here since this is becoming unproductive. I am in agreement with you as to what and what not to backup, and the fact that this thread is becoming unproductive. However may I trouble you for more direct information on the batch scripts that you use and how to implement them. I just happen to have a JumpDrive that would be capable of holding the backup information that I need. -- Thanks to one and all Jimmie Small minds discuss people, average minds discuss events, great minds discuss ideas. Using The Bat! 2.10.03 under w/ BayesIt! 0.5.4 Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium 133 with 128MB. Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The probes have worked.
On 5/19/04, at 8:38 AM, Leif Gregory sent the following: LG I only had one dissenting voice among you all who seemed to think our LG attempts at making this list better was an inconvenience. LG Thanks to all the rest of you who put up with the probes. I think it is great to be on a list where the moderator cares enough to take the steps to remove something like this. Thanks again and no problem from here with the probes. -- Thanks to one and all Jimmie There are two theories about arguing with women Neither one works. Using The Bat! 2.10.03 under w/ BayesIt! 0.5.4 Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium 133 with 128MB. Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Cookies, how to create them
TBUDL, I have been using TB for a couple of days now and am beginning to have questions. I understand what cookies are in the templates but am a little vague on how and where to create them. -- Later. Jimmie Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: download progress indicator
With the mention of AVG I assume we are talking about AVG Anti-virus from Grisoft. Since I am a new user I would like to know how to configure TB to use it, or at least to the point that I feel like TB is using it. Jimmie Thursday, May 13, 2004, 2:25:35 AM, you wrote: RO In that case it would be triggered by the AVG plug-in and that's not RO likely. As I've understood TB's plug-ins, they work as special RO filters, testing the message after it's been received. Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html