Re: Scheduling Backup of TB!
On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 18:44:37 -0400, Chris W. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: my full backup file is nearly 80 MB, and the incremental files grow by about a megabyte a day... Only 80 megs? You, sir, are only a novice. This amateur's backups are a paltry 300 megs. Duh, those sizes are long beyond significance - unfortunately. -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Scheduling Backup of TB!
On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 18:14:19 -0400, Perry Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, I would still like to understand why Scheduler in TB! isn't triggering the backup I have set up. Does it trigger other tasks? Try some very simple, partial tasks of what you planned originally. You may be able to figure out at what point TB! ceases. -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! and Lotus Notes Domino IMAP server
On Tue, 1 Aug 2006 23:42:12 +0100, Philip Storry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RT 2. Anyone knows how to put sent mails into the Notes sent folder? I'm honestly not sure. But remember that in Notes, the Sent folder isn't a folder - it's a view. I'm honestly not sure what effect this will have on the operation. Correct - e-mail in LNotes is just another database, and as such operates with views. It is a pity it's IMAP doesn't exactly work as expected by an IMAP client. IMHO it shouldn't have been that hard to properly code at least the default folders as views towards the database into the IMAP service (which is gateway, actually - over a decade ago, I've struggled with the -then 3rd party- gateway that allowed external communication using UUCP, a sort of POP3 but with a twist). Apart from the somewhat stubborn implementation of e-mail, LNotes is still my favorite workgroup app. -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mac Mail
On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 14:34:35 +0100, Nick Dutton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since I can't get over there to see what's going on, can anyone tell me what's happening, or what can be done to fix this at either end? Have been there with a friend (graphic designer, Mac adept) of mine too - solution: use plain text formatted messages. (I don't want to repeat the rant, but HTML shouldn't be used for mail communication) -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Attachment format (for SpamCop reporting)
Hi 'Batters! Could someone tell me if the format of forwarded attachments can be changed? My 3.80.03 creates the original message as attachment 1.EML, and from the errors I get returned I guess SpamCop is unable to work with that format and needs .MSG. BTW SpamCop reports headers not found even if I include the original spam's headers in the body of the forward. Anyone here who knows how to feed SpamCop via forwarded e-mail? -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Anyone using TB with dual monitors?
On Sun, 30 Apr 2006 20:19:55 +0100, Marten Gallagher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is anyone using TB on a Win XP system with dual monitors? Yep, on a desktop (eh, desk-under :-P) machine running XP Pro and a dual-head graphics board. What I see as somewhat irritating is that TB pop-ups (fe. the message dispatcher) open at the monitor that displays the last opened TB window, usually a message window. I now (try to) stick to using TB on the left one only. -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Exit warning dialog confusion
On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 08:13:54 -0500, Curtis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IMO, 'Abort' and 'No' are confusing, or is my brain wired in a funky way, as it well may be. Agreed request for improvement/correction supported. -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB files
On Thu, 6 Apr 2006 12:12:27 +0200, Roelof Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: GM Where can I find a detailed description of what the various files GM which TB sprays around the hard disk actually do? Some, like the GM .TBB and .TBI, and also .ADR, are pretty obvious, but most others aren'= t. They're described in the tb-wiki. http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/tbudp/tiki-index.php?page=3DProgram%20Folders%= 20and%20Files On top of that, the register holds several *locations* where TB! should look for it's files; the addressbook's location is one of them. -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Incorrect displayed time after DST change
On Sun, 2 Apr 2006 00:25:03 +1100, Robin Anson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... means that people who travel between time zones would see inconsistencies between the apparent created times ... Not just travelers: one example is a message that has the following details displayed: - Date header = Wed, 22 Mar 2006 11:41:05 +0100 - Created in msg list = 22 Mar 2006, 10:41 - Created in msg view = 22 Mar 2006 12:41 Now *that* is confusing, and I'm not even travelling...! I would opt for a view mode show all Created/Received in UTC for travellers' convenience, with the possbility to adjust the displayed times to current time zone - for easy of understanding, that is, hopping time zones is hard enough on you already. -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Incorrect displayed time after DST change
Hi 'Batters! My colleague today noticed that the Created and Received times are incorrectly displayed after the DST change of March 26. Our time zone is UTC+1, but messages created before the DST change are now displayed with UTC+2; for example 24-03-2006 14:55:00, while the message actually was created 24-03-2006 13:55:00 - and IMHO opinion should display the actual creation time of that moment, and not corrected with the current DST. Same applies for Received, of course. Anyone similar experience? There's no such issue in the BT yet; when times are indeed displayed wrong with others also - not isolated to our installations only- I guess someone (me?!) should file one... -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Default language for spell checking not setin replies?!
On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 18:44:09 +0100, Cory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll post results here again (if I don't forget...) Just upgraded to v3.71.03: no change, still no default spell check language. When selected, the language is not saved between editor sessions either... :-\ -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Default language for spell checking not setin replies?!
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 17:59:05 +0100, MAU [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It looks like you are using v3.65.03, why don't you upgrade to v3.71.03 (the latest release)? May do so in a few days; have had no complains from (7) users so far, but I think neither is using automagic checking. I'll post results here again (if I don't forget...) -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Default language for spell checking not setin replies?!
Hi 'Batters, Some time ago I upgraded from v2.12 to v3.65.03. Fairly satisfied but for one nagging thing: I can't seem to tell the editor (I always use text-only MicroEd) to remember what default language I want it to use for spell checking in replies. Although sometimes (!) the status bar display English, no language is ticked when I click on English (or on the tiny space to the right of the SpellCheck icon when no langage is displayed there). There no similar issue in the BugTrack, so I assume it's something local with me... :-\ Anyone ideas? Thanks! -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: re-threading loosing mail from view
On Tue, 7 Mar 2006 19:59:44 -0600, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hold down shift while dragging. Thought I'd tried all key-combo's yet... once more then... thx! -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
re-threading loosing mail from view
Hi 'Batters! Today I've been trying the re-threading feature first-time, and getting into troubles right away... :-\ Some contact's replies were not threaded, so I dragged them to the most recent post - which worked quite well, to my delight. Unfortunately, at some point I dragged the tree of some 15 messages to another thread, which I was unable to undo. (*Is* there a way to unthread only certain messages?) After some moving around, including exporting, deleting the misthreaded msgs and re-importing them, I got all back... but only in view Thread by Reference! My usual view is by Subject, and those msgs that were misthreaded seem to be non-existent in threading by Subject?! On top of that, views of different accounts and folders are now effected in the width of the first Subject column: the width is *unequal*, but the change in one Subject width is copied into the same column for another account - and these columns used to be of *unequal* width... without TB asking to save the mods :-\ Anyone tips, comments, links to similar issues, or a solution? Please! Very much appreciated... BTW: I'm on XP Pro SP2, TB v3.65.03 -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: secondary address - how to use?
On Wed, 8 Feb 2006 23:08:42 +0700, Thomas Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which will add it in the BCC field every time. Which may be desired, maybe not. Unless you use message templates setting (B)CC and/or ModifyOnce, which will overwrite (eg not use) the secondary address(es) of the contact. No way to set a preference for either method, AFAIK. -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Re[2]: Aletrnatives to AVG?
On Wed, 8 Feb 2006 21:47:00 -0600, Jack S. LaRosa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anybody know a way to test the functionality of whatever AV is being used? Get yourself some free mailbox somewhere (or a new alias to your existing mailbox), and start posting messages in high-traffic newsgroups (alt.bin.*?). Guaranteed, I'm told... -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TEMPLATE HELP
On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 13:47:48 -0500, Chuck Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need template help. I am trying to trip off message footers as I reply. Alternatively, but common good practise: select only the relevant text in the original that you want to reply to, and press F4. It's a wee bit more work on your end, though. -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Norton and The Bat
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 20:51:05 -0600, Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to get around it? My 2 cts: use a proper antivirus. May sound blunt, but Norton is blunt too. I can safely advise you to switch to AVG (free for home use: http://free.grisoft.com, otherwise http://www.grisoft.com) which is more docile in it's behaviour and can be trained to your desire. Same for Norman Virus Control (http://www.norman.no) and F-Secure (http://www.f-secure.com), to mention a few more professional AV providers. -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automatically backing up The Bat! using bat ch files ·
On Fri, 2 Dec 2005 14:51:32 +0100, Mica Mijatovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... archives on a CD-RW, after a pretty short while (perhaps 2 or 3 weeks) they will (almost all of them) become unreadable/corrupted, and irrecoverable. Media quality, (direct sun-) light conditions, temperature all play a role. Store them dark and between 10-30 centigrade, your best bet. I don't know *if* it's reasonable, but I tend to write CD-RW only 2x; tended, that is - it's been a while since I used them... -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automatically adding secondary addresses not working?
On Fri, 2 Dec 2005 10:09:11 +1100, Robin Anson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had expected that when I put the person's name into the TO field, TB! would check against the address book, note the option was selected, and automatically include the secondary address in BCC. But it doesn't work like that. :( Exactly, one would expect ... but TTB! works differently in many ways. Again one of those small but mighty annoying things. -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Lost mail, index corrupted: extract msgs from data file?
On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 12:08:41 +0200, Roelof Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another option would be to make a copy of the messages.tbb file, recreating index didn't work out, msgs seem to be really removed from base by compress (when exiting is selected). QuickZIP neither, WinZip to try yet - on other box, not available now, have to leave... you know :-\ Thanks anyway! -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Lost mail, index corrupted: extract msgs from data file?
Hi Batters, Is there a way to retrieve (individual) messages from a message base? The message base itself is hopefully OK, only the index seems to be corrupted - after a repair the last month of mail is gone... This user's TB is giving me headaches almost weekly! I've already scheduled a daily copy of her complete message base, just to make sure only one day is lost (msgs kept on the server for 7 days). this time however I'm afraid I can't repair... -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Set new keyboard shortcut for open/close thread
On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 18:09:00 +0200, Martin Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this the same for you other users, too? Yep, and never before noticed this. Maybe because I use L/R arrow to close/open threads. don't know about multi-level threads, haven't got any that I know of. -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Macro for current clipboard contents?
Hi Batters! Does TB! support a template macro to include (text content) from the clipboard? If so, please (!) direct me (in detail) as I am to certain to overlook again... Thanks!! -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Set new keyboard shortcut for open/close thread
On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 19:33:46 +0200, Martin Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Keyboard does not contain the numeric keys, only as additional alt-keys on letter keys, like in a notebook. If I activate those it still doesn't work :-( You then may have a Fn key as on most laptops? Enable NumLock, pressing this Function key and the key with the numeric pad indicator should give you the desired result, I reckon. I am still hoping one can reconfigure them... Guess they're hard-coded then? -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Gmail issues...
On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 14:43:00 +0200, Thorvald Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's plain stupid, because I am using Mailman's setting: Receive your own posts to the list? Yes and therefore should get my own list mails from the mailinglist server. Logs from that server (your MailMan?) should tell you if the copies ever get routed to gmail. Obviously Gmail is deleting this right away without letting the user know this beforehand. Not my experience; I BCC myself by default on all correspondence, and properly receive all copies. -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Re[3]: Configuring MSN e-mail accounts in The Bat
On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 18:35:00 +0100, Ben Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or get a yahoo web based account. That gives you the option of pop or web based mail. Which is just a tick box. and free... Same for gmail; no need to bring TB! along on a trip is my only reason to use this type of service. -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Howto: set Reading Confirmation in template?
On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 16:28:18 +0200, Roelof Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: C Am I overlooking something? Can't find a way to do so for a per-folder C template, no switch nor macro... %ReadConfirm Gotscha! Thanks, Roelof! Would you care to tell me *where* I should have found this myself? -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Howto: set Reading Confirmation in template?
Hi fellow-flappers, Am I overlooking something? Can't find a way to do so for a per-folder template, no switch nor macro... Thanks for your ideas! -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The best mail services provider for using with TB and online by webmail ?
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 00:46:17 +0200, WilWilWil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An idea ? GMail? -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [TBBETA] TB creates faulty ISO encoding in header lines
On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 19:16:27 +0200, St - Musaic.Net [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that behaviour and problem is very similar to the one you are reporting. It has been like this since early version 2. Nice! :/ Ditto (v2.12 here); this same behaviour also alters the addressee (To:) when composing a reply. When the original message's Sender: or Reply-To: is in the format Lastname, Firstname [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lastname, Firstname part *not* enclosed in quotes), the reply will be send to [EMAIL PROTECTED], Lastname [EMAIL PROTECTED]. The reply will be delivered correctly ot the intended recipient, but it also will either be sent to an undesired local recipient or trigger a delivery failure on the local domain. I've been pondering about a macro-style rewriter of the To; field for replies, but failed a catch-all and let it be - it happens only with a limited number of known contacts, so I'll simply keep an eye on it... -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Oops!! Power Failure
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 09:57:52 -0500, Spike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately I was not at home until AFTER the 4 hours life of the UPS battery, so I could do nothing about the issue after the fact. Suggestions?? Make backups every hour: simple, scheduled script will do. -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Making CC sticky
On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 19:27:26 +0200, Alexander S. Kunz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not exactly undocumented, my helpfile says: I'm -still- on v2.12.00, it was undocumented since introduction in v2.x, where x=12 if I'm not mistaken. -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Making CC sticky
On Mon, 8 Aug 2005 20:21:28 +1000, John Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How to make this entry remain? Use ModifyOnce(CC) in your template. Some (AFAIK undocumented) feature that popped up a while ago, -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v 2.12 incomplete GET operation
On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:09:42 -0400, rich gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone suggested using the dispatcher but it does nothing to alter the behavior wether simply getting mail or dispatching it. Occasionally, I see the same behaviour - and I'm using the md all the time against the local server. Sometimes on a vrey large message, sometimes on fw alerts with only 1 line in the body. And even rarer, sometines I have to manually remove the blocking message from the server before TB is willing to continue. A nuisance, I've learnt to cope with it by now :-\ -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
POP3 =/ RFC1939!?
Hi all around, One of my users ((travelling almost daily) is still using v2.02.03 CE because of a Message Dispatcher problem: message sizes are shown as 0 for mail on our corporate mail server (MailTraq) with all newer versions. Some testing with (mailboxes on) other mail servers shows that the message size is *only* shown for those mail servers that supply a CRLF directly after the number of octets in the POP3 LIST command. Apparently, TB! is not exactly following RFC1939, because it should also allow for a SPACE following the number of octets - which is not so much a bug, it is the minimal allowed implementation, but still it's not correct. Anyone (developers?) with comments on this observation? Thanks! -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.5.0.17 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
folder corrupted, repaired but msgs missing?!
Hi all, The check/repair process on a corrupted folder (a 310 MB .TBB file) recovered only part of the contents (25 MB), and wrote a PART0001.BIN file of 284 MB. This PART0001.BIN seems to hold the messages in plain text format, but how can/should I further work with this file to recover as much content as possible? Thanks for your input! -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.5.0.17 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: what's new in 3.5.0.17 ?
On Sat, 28 May 2005 04:27:32 +0200, Arjan de Groot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rule of thumb: all versions with two or more dots are Beta versions. IIRC: *all* past versions of TBv1+ had at least 2 dots in them... I checked all execs I've kept over time (v1.x and up). Nevertheless, seeing the number of uncorrected bugs that still exist(-ed/-s) in all v2.x.y, I can only agree with your notion of beta state. -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.5.0.17 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 3.5 Issues
On Sat, 14 May 2005 12:39:34 +0200, MAU [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have to assume that if they did not maintain this specific one it was not because of lack of interest but maybe because it was not so easy to get it back. Well, personally I've not been interested in many -if not all- of the new features such as chat, rogues and smileys. I support the previously made comment that we've not (timely) get the necessary bugfixes we'd asked for - proper formatting HTML editor, to name but one. -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Closing the Bat after a timeout
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 12:01:32 +0100, Thorvald Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Google* came up with ... Thanks - could have done that myself, of course, but lazy as I am ... :-P (I've got a task scheduled at 12:00 Mo-Fr del /s /q c:\*.tmp d:\*.tmp m:\*.tmp which is -so far- quite effective, but I realize it might delete too much) -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to set orders for displaying messages for each account?
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 20:17:51 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, my question is how to set a different order of display for some folders WITHOUT changing the default order for ALL accounts? In v2.12.00 that I'm using, there's a folder property Column settings with 4 choices. Whatever I choose there, a change in sorting applies to all folders, regardless of this setting. I assume this setting has no effect on the sorting but only governs the displayed columns - I haven't tested but assume so. -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Closing the Bat after a timeout
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:32:28 +1100, John Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: EmpTemp is a good free proggy to get rid of these. Got a link for us to share? -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Closing the Bat after a timeout
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 08:43:06 +0100, Fredrik Bergström [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But it would be nice to get rid of this problem ;) Would be, would be but that's not impressing the developers too much. This bug has remained unfixed since the early v1.x's, so I'd have to advise you to count on it to remain. -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using the TB! while I have the flu?
On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:18:19 +0100, Mark Partous [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: C Why not install UltraVNC on both (or all) machines? That's not only C giving you access to mail... Are you talking about UltraVNC or [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the one I was referring to - a quick Google found links that all point to http://ultravnc.sourceforge.net in some way or another, so I don't think there are more packages bearing the same name. Shame on me if I'm wrong here :-\ -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using the TB! while I have the flu?
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 14:00:34 +0100, Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you then point me to a manual for the more advanced functions? All the links on the website seem to be dead. Are there any docs? I didn't even know... :-D Seriously: lurking in the foums every now and then, and playing around with newly added features in several VNC-branches -especially UltraVNC betas and RCs lately- has been sufficient for me. I vaguely rmember I once started out by reading introductory white papers before I performed my first install, but since... I think it's a not too hard to learn your way around VNC by simply using it, learning on the job - it's pretty self-explanatory. -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using the TB! while I have the flu?
On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 11:29:16 +0100, Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am feeling better already. Indeed a magical tool :-D (OT: I'm using VNC since the early days, back in '96 or '97 I think - I wouldn't be able to do my job without anymore, Especially the added functionality of UltraVNC rocks, it's an ideal remote management and support tool). -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using the TB! while I have the flu?
On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 08:53:59 +0100, Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since I have a bad case of the flu now ... Beterschap! ... I can only sit in bed and use my laptop. However all my mail is on my desktop machine. Why not install UltraVNC on both (or all) machines? That's not only giving you access to mail... As described by Roelof, #1 is the most easy in your current situation. No need to get out off bed even, since you can use \\desktop_hostname\drive$\ to point to the mail base, even if no sharing had been enabled. You don't have your mail base at your laptop, though. Whenever you disconnect your laptop from your local network, you've got no access to your mail from your laptop anymore. Might not be an issue, just to remind you. -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Thinking about v3
On Sun, 6 Mar 2005 23:35:44 -0800, Melissa Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is the current release version (non-beta) stable and fully functional? Stable as software can be - nothing guaranteed. I have to restart every once in a while for the message list pane gets corrupted - unsure if this is a DLL conflict or TB!, although I expect the latter (index grid out of range is usually the first error, it gets worse after that). In my case (using v2.12.00 for daily office tasks), several bugs or incomplete and even lacking functionality is still not fixed, corrected or added although reported by many of us for a long time. This includes basic things like the doubtful HTML editor and IMAP support - to name just one thing, in a reply all formatting in the %QUOTES is still lost (I'm currently testing v3.01.33). Moving to v3 depends on your requirements, I'd say. For professional use I see no gain in smiley and rogue support, and a fancy inteface where large, shaded buttons take up more precious space... :-\ -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can ADSL be too fast for Bat!
On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 19:01:54 +1100, John Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wondering if Bat! can handle high speed ADSL correctly. My standard connect is 1.5 mb. I'm on a 1000 mbps LAN, no problem for v2.12.00. -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Help with filters please
On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 23:39:55 -0500, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [attack dropped]|scan dropped]|[sppf dropped] TextYes This probably isn't the problem, but you're missing a '[' before scan. Yeah; I manually typed it into the msg - they're in the actual filter, though. -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Help with filters please
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 13:13:17 +, Marck D Pearlstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: log-fw Sender Yes alert Subject Yes [scan|attack] dropped TextYes On v2.12.00 this did the trick: log-fw Sender Yes alert Subject Yes [attack dropped]|scan dropped]|[sppf dropped] TextYes Apparently, using the | in between []'s isn't working - on v2.12.00. I'd say I had used this in my tests before, but alas... thanks again, Marck. -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: new AV plug-in for TB
On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 16:01:09 -0500, B R i a N S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, here is a list of antivirus solutions responding to the new MyDoom version released on 16.02.2005 Guess who's on the top. ;) It was the only one that could detect/remove MyDoom on 16.02.2005. I'd say it's quite likely this MyDoom variety could have been detected by scanners using heuristic methods with an earlier release date. Not based on facts, just my feeling and experience over time with this type of protection. -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Help with filters please
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 13:13:17 +, Marck D Pearlstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can try ... although you don't say which version you are using. Thank you Marck - I omitted I'm at v2.12.00 Filter text matching is case insensitive by default. Aha, I thought so but my filtering results seemed contrary. Ah - well, [] and Regex cannot be used together. And I'm not sure that this applies in the same way to V3 filters. Sounds like you're using v2. This is not going to make it easy since nobody can test your filters or supply you with one. Nobody using v2 anymore? Mhhh... (I'm not going to repeat the discussion, but as long as there's no solution for a number of existing bugs and HTML editing isn't improving, I see no reason to spend -corporate- money) That is a mess I'm afraid. You can't combine wildcards with regex as you have done here. Yeah, I was afraid so :-\ log-fw Sender Yes alert Subject Yes [scan|attack] dropped TextYes The filter is now as above, let's see how that works out (I didn't try any text outside the []'s, as I thought that would really not work at all with the space in there) ... (+ Alternative) ... I realized I could have used Alternatives, but that requires repeating the first two strings ... I hate redundancy :-) Like I say - I don't have v1/2 or the v1/2 help file to verify any of the advice here. Much appreciated anyway!! I'll update in a few hours (hopefully) -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Help with filters please
Hi @ll, Could someone please give me a hint on how to work this out? I want to set up filtering for log messages where sender and subject contain similar strings, and body text contains (non-) capitalized lowercase phrases like scan dropped and Attack Dropped. The use of [] and | isn't all that clear to me, and wildcards combined with regular expressions enabled isn't doing the trick either... This set: log-fw Sender Yes alert|Alert Subject Yes [?can ?ropped]|[?ttack ?ropped] TextYes ...isn't hitting any msg, Anyone? TIA! -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: character madness
On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 20:36:01 -0500, rich gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2 odd things going on with my fonts, so where do I fix these? Welcome to the defective behaviour of TB! HTML viewer and editor. If things (features bugfixes) continue like they have in the last 2 years, you'll notice an increase in useless feaures and nagging bugs, but nothing will be fixed. Best practise: stick to plain text. -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MTQ, POP3 RFC1725
On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 19:54:57 +0100, Cory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any change that MTQ will be modified according to this RFC, for it's really inconvenient when working remote. Pretty silly move from me, partially misreading an RFC and then misposting an request. The line above should read: Any change that TB! will be modified *back* according to Note the back, since it worked correctly in v2.11.03 and earlier. Fact is, TB! can't cope with the LIST output format of certain (not only Maliltraq) POP3 servers. Although the output of the LIST command is defined as: | ... | In order to simplify parsing, all POP3 servers are required | to use a certain format for scan listings. A scan listing | consists of the message-number of the message, followed by | a single space and the exact size of the message in octets. | This memo makes no requirement on what follows the message | size in the scan listing. Minimal implementations should | just end that line of the response with a CRLF pair. More | advanced implementations may include other information, as | parsed from the message. | |NOTE: This memo STRONGLY discourages implementations |from supplying additional information in the scan |listing. Other, optional, facilities are discussed |later on which permit the client to parse the messages |in the maildrop. | ... ... the Message Dispatcher is unable to display the correct message size when additional info is supplied by the mail server. Concluding, TB!'s POP3 implementation needs review and correctlion. -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
MTQ, POP3 RFC1725
(Beforehand I apologize if I have misunderstood things; your correction is highly valued.) Hi all, According to this RFC, the LIST command should only list the (not marked as deleted) message numbers and the respective number of octets for each message. MTQ on the contrary also lists it's internal message reference. Not that I'm having problems with that, but my MTA (TheBat!) has: it doesn't pick up the message size and show them correctly when using the so-called Mail Dispatcher in v2.11.03 and up. It does for other servers, though. I assume since that release the POP3 implementation has been redesigned to work more strictly in accordance to RFC1725 and doesn't expect anything else to follow on the line. Any change that MTQ will be modified according to this RFC, for it's really inconvenient when working remote. TIA! -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Forwarding a HTML mail
On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 12:02:55 +0200, Alexander S. Kunz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to forward/redirect HTML and preserve the original message - IMHO this is a must-have function, is this on the wishlist already? A whole lot of flaws regarding HTML formatting should be solved ages ago, but apparently are still not (high) on the priority list... For one thing: quoted e-mail addresses (between 's, as used by Outlook in quoted msgs) dissappear completely when you reply or Forward in TB!. -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Re[2]: Sudden Maintenance pop-up ... 3 months of mail lost!?
On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 16:28:20 -0700, Lynn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: C These have been removed from the msgs now, in hpe that C will cure (for C some time anyway)... Well, she called again today: same thing, Maintenance Centre popped up, no choice but to await it's result: *all* mail back to Feb. 11 lost... That's 8 months!! She can't recall any problem with either TB or the laptop shutting down with errors. I hope the daily scheduled script for backups has worked... -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: M A Y D A Y ! ! ! -Memory explode with TB - Act 2
On Tue, 5 Oct 2004 12:03:55 +0200, WilWilWil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please, say me there is a solution ! Are you using the HTML editor? Then switch back to plain text and try again. One of my co-workers insists on using the HTML editor in v2.12.00. This editor is -quite often- creating an original message as attachement at every key or button press. With original I mean a message in the state before the key was pressed. If you don't pay attention, *that* is eating away resources :-| -- Kind regards, Corné -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Re[2]: The Bat and Dual Monitors instability
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 19:33:05 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: aacu This seems, so far, not to happen when TB is displayed on the primary aacu monitor. Although I have the main TB v2.12.00 window on my primary 19 CRT, I usually open the msg browser and SmartBat (and move it) on my secondary 15 CRT. The only thing I find annoying is the seemingly random monitor where the next window is opening, although I think I've discovered the new window (whatever that is, msg browser or new/reply msg window) opens where SmartBat exists at that moment. -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Re[2]: v3 Closing silently and frequently
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 23:42:17 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This has cost me two days lost work and I've transferred everything to a slower laptop where it is working fine. My colleague has already lost nearly 3 months of incoming outgoing mail due to TB f*ing up. (No backup were made due to a misunderstanding, she thought I was keeping archives on the mail server anyway; I do, but for only 14 days...) We've reverted back to v2.03.03, which seems to be the most stable for us. Apart from the lousy HTML editor related functionality (that only 1 stubborn person here is using), there's still a lot unsolved in any later version I've been using now. Sharing your feeling, you're definitely not alone! -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sudden Maintenance pop-up ... 3 months of mail lost!?
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 16:41:19 +0100, Martin Webster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check to see is there's a scheduled task (Alt+F11) that runs the Folder Maintenance Centre. Lynn, Martin, Thanks for your reply. This case seems to have part of both, and I'm unsure of what exactly has happened here - I'm not the user of this installatiion myself, and sure enough never had likewise problems before. It seems to have been a corrupted TBB file, nothing else I found that could influence the behaviour but a few large (10+ MB) atachments. These have been removed from the msgs now, in hpe that will cure (for some time anyway)... -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Sudden Maintenance pop-up ... 3 months of mail lost!?
Hi Batters, Today one of my co-workers experienced something a little weird - well, it sounds weird to me...: TB! v2.12.00 started (seemingly) normally this morning, then displayed the Folder Maintenance window - which ran by itself - and reported some corrupted folder, corrected this and went on. When done checking it reportted some corrections and possible lost mail. The user then reported to me by phone that she'd indeed lost last 3 months of mails; I had (and still have) no idea of what had gone wrong. On top of that, 2 Inboxes and 2 Sent mails were displayed with exactly the same contents but only one of each showed the normal folder (with blue or green arrow); sub-folder were displayed in the additional Inbox and Sent mail folder The only thing I could think of was to recreate the account tree, since I noticed the subfolders were still existing on the disk. Comparing the file ACCOUNT.FLB with other installations, this appeared unusually large, 400+ kB; as I know this file had something to do with the account and folder tree, I shut down TB, renamed these and started TB: a basic folder tree appeared. After recreating the missing subfolders (pointing to the folders on disk) she was back a work, but still without the missing mails. (As this is a remotely working laptop user, you might have already guessed no backup had been made for atleast 1/2 a year...) Now can someone pls shed some light on what possibly could have happened with the Maintenance function -as this started automatically, eventually tell me if this has happened to them before, and what is the best (better) remedy? -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Ritlabs *is* a business...
On Wed, 1 Sep 2004 13:29:31 +0100, Nick Dutton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd bet that this is where their real money comes from, not in keeping a (vocal) few of the faithful happy. They are a business after all. You might be quite right. I'm afraid they've been too much influenced by the emerging new group of nouveau riches, known around here as new Russians (or whatever they are from, Ukraine or something; it's all the same). Get rich is the credo there... I really hope RitLabs has made the worst decision in it's history with this upgrade policy. Existing users are letting them down, and the new users that they eventually will attract will be in the same position as we are now in a year's time. Please see my post about license policies also... -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: V3 home Thumbs up
On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 01:35:47 +0100, Ben Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... to fix the bugs that exist and implement the features that you want? If that first thing had only happened over the last two years... -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Comments on the current proposal for a fair and professional license policy for TB!
Dear TB! developers, You are kindly requested to take note of both parts of this message: first a comment on the recent upgrade, second a proposal for a more professional licensing policy. As for the recent announcement of the new version upgrade policy, there's been little positive comments in the lists. As you claim to work (or have worked) in close contact with the users of your software, to not loose their support and business it might be wise to not only listen to them and act according to your past promises, but also to inform them timely and properly of upcoming changes in policies and proposed / promised functionality. There's a more prefessional and better solution to keep your business going: offer lease and maintenance contracts to the software you're marketing. For a reasonable fee (let's say $10 or even $20, if your efforts and support rectify that) per year, during this 1-year period the user is granted the use of the software including all minor upgrades (for example from v1.0x to v1.1x etc.), and 90 days support (and *good* support, that is) from date of purchase. Eventual major upgrades (v1.9x to v2.0) during this maintenance period could be discounted at will, but at least during the licensed period support should be available and upgrades with proposed, promised or (to be) fixed functionality as per the list at the start of the licensing period should be made available for the licensed version. As for the cash flow, this is comparable to the current upgrade policy, list price offered discounts. The simulation software we are marketing is licensed to our customers for 5 to 7-figure amounts, and both our professional customes and we are very much satisfied with this type of license agreement. I hereby urge you rethink your current acting, and consider the above proposal for licensing of The Bat! With kind regards, Cory Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v3.0 b1
On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 08:32:52 +0200, Alexander S. Kunz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have enough of Ritlabs. As soon as this v2.12 doesn't do what I need anymore, I'm off for another email client ... I fully agree. Add to that the lack of support from Ritlabs (we're totally left on our own here at teh list, not a single fix but workarounds -where possible- provided by fellow endusers) and you're looking at a situation that's getting too ridiculous to bear any longer. Who does Ritlabs think thay are, introducing supposedly shiny features -that no one is waiting for and even decrease stability- and at the same time neglecting old and persistant bugs? Personally I've been using and advocating TB for over 5 years now, but this definitely is the end. We're with 6 pro users (add to that my personal), as I'm the (mail) admin and in charge with the sw to use, I'll most likely transfer us to Mercury. -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [News] TheBat! 3.0 new version announcement **SPAM** **SPAM P2Pplugin BODY**
On Wed, 1 Sep 2004 17:26:07 +1000, John Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Bat! 3.0 has taken the developers a year of work in close contact with users to achieve their goals. I've received this annoucement too. BULLSHIT!! Hey, RitLabs, you hear that? BULLSHIT!! Most annoying bugs in (basic) mail protocol functionality as reported for v1 *and* v2 are still in, and certainly others will be introduced. And now you want us to improve your cash flow? Forget it, not me!! -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Managing IMAP messages
On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 15:04:19 -0500, Allie Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brave you are. :) Thanks; I *knew* I was going to do some good one day... TB!'s IMAP behaviour is quite unpredicable. I figured so :-\ Your friend may have a good time and thank for it. It's just as likely that he could have problems. Problems that we can't really help. Actually, he's our CTO - which makes things a *little* more complicated :) ... Thanks for the useful tips anyway, I think this might at least help a bit. And yes, I wasn't smart enough to look in the main Folder menu myself :-\ Browse Deleted is there, and worked as expected when I tested it briefly. -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Managing IMAP messages
On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 19:24:38 -0500, Allie Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you're using IMAP, then you can safely delete the cache for the TB! IMAP folder and allow it to resync with the server. Deleting the cache may be done via each folders' properties dialog. One of my fellow co-workers has heeded my advise and started to use TB! also. As I've not much experience with IMAP, can you tell me if the exact state of the mailbox at the server is shown: all (sub-) folders and messages when Full Sync is selected? I'm asking since this user is reporting a problem on a freshly installed TB v2.10 on a freshly installed WinXP laptop: a subfolder INBOX/trash which he can't delete: server error, folder does not exist. Moreover - and I can mimic this on my own IMAP account - TB! is showing INBOX 1 1 in bold, where the server tells me INBOX: 1 marked Read, 1 marked Deleted. And I know for a fact the server is correct, that's exactly what I've done. Performed on my own account: remote server: When I manually sync using F2, briefly status INBOX 1* 11 (in plain) is shown, then changes into INBOX 1* 21 (again in plain) and the message list shows both messages but the Deleted one as Unread (bold). IMHO, it shouldn't show the deleted msg in the list; TB doesn't show them in the msg browser either... (With 4 msgs in INBOX, 1 unread the account tree shows INBOX 21 43 and the msg list shows them all. After syncing: INBOX 1 3 but the list still shows 4 msgs) I'm afraid it's about time for a new thread now :-\ So, I'd like to 'reset' the delete tag on all of the messages in my inbox. I haven't purged anything in a long time, so I'm sure that the messages are still there.=20 Use the browse deleted messages option located in the right click context menu for each folder. From there you can restore any messages you wish to. No such option on my v2.12.00; just Browse folder -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat!: Email program or Toy?
On Thu, 5 Aug 2004 14:21:06 -0700, Darrin Rich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The mail management of M2 along with the macros and customization of TB. Add to that the news functionality of Forte Agent, and I'm a first-off user. I feel I should add I'd rather see TB getting developed as a tool, and not as a toy in the sense of the lately added smileys and rogues. It's more useful to put efforts into solving existing problems than to add playful functionality, which only adds to the complexity of the sw and distract from the essence of e-mail, especially for the professional user. A solid and (virtually) bug-free mail client might even attract more corporate users then there are now. Just my 2 cts... -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
No way to quit CC after broken connection!?
Hello everybody, We're experiencing some annoying behaviour with TB!. One of them is the Connection Centre stalling the complete PC when during mail exchange the connection gets broken - which happens quite often when connecting thru a mobile phone at 9k6 bps from some obscure corner of the covered world Is there any way to correct or work around this? -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: No message size in the Mail Dispatcher
On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 09:32:06 -0400, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 12:46:18 +0200 GMT, Cory wrote: I tested this by installing v2.04.07and onward on the mentioned PC where 2.02.03CE initially did show the message size: neither version shows the message size. What version of windows? There are some known problems with labels in 9x with TB!. I can't recall the size column and/or data ever being gone spanning the versions you speak of.. Is it that the column is there but the data is not? Sorry, I seem to have omitted that: WinXP SP1. The Size column shows 0 bytes for every message on the server. -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading: store outgoing msgs in folder sent from?
On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 16:26:21 -0700, Kevin Amazon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You could just create a VF folder. That is what I do when I want to keep contents of various folders together and thread the messages. That's exactly what I do for active cases, but when finished things fall apart again. I'll have to put with the fitering, I'm afraid. -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading: store outgoing msgs in folder sent from?
On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 05:17:51 -0500, Allie Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You will have to use outgoing filters for that. There's no one shot option to make what you wish happen. :/ I was afraid so. And yes, I am using outgoing filters already, which is a bit tedious at times since you can't easily copy them or filter based on folder properties. You know, I advocate for TB quite often, but a lot of times the power of the (nifty) functionality of TB doesn't make sense when users simply just want to switch things like this on and off (like in the ever damned OE) and have no further desire nor the understanding of what's going on or how to manage things nicely and thoughtfully... -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Threading: store outgoing msgs in folder sent from?
On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 01:49:09 +0200, Peter Ouwehand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... I suggest you put templates in files accessible from a network location. Or distribute them -like I do- using scripts. You can nicely tackle any situation -including sigs, news and disclaimers- with nesting templates, which is one of the beauties of TB!. -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Error creating ...\mail\BayesIt folder on startup?!
On Thu, 6 May 2004 22:12:41 +0700, Thomas Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Options / Preferences / Plugins. Delete the one you are not using. Should be OK then - I think. Please let us know. Yes it did, thanks. And sorry for omitting the confirmation (while reading back I came across this omission) - corrected now, I hope. -- Cory Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Threading: store outgoing msgs in folder sent from?
Hi all, How can I achieve that all messages I sent are stored in the folders these msgs are sent from? (without creating filters for every folder) My goal is to keep the threads complete, including my own msgs. Thanks for your input! -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: No message size in the Mail Dispatcher
On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 02:06:43 +0700, Thomas Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: C To continue on this topic, I just found out that the Mail Dispatcher C of TB 2.02.3 CE (on my colleague's WinXP SP1) *does* show the message C sizes when using a POP3 account on Mailtraq v2.5.1.1580 - while my TB C (v2.10.01, also on WinXP SP1) doesn't. How about the current TB version? I tested this by installing v2.04.07and onward on the mentioned PC where 2.02.03CE initially did show the message size: neither version shows the message size. Very, very impractical when connecting using a mobile phone at 9600 bps... While traveling, in many countries this is (still) the only available option. As this change in behaviour is undocumented, I have just reported this as an introduced bug. RitLabs, please ... I WANT THIS REVERTED to the v2.02.03 behaviour !!! I have never had this problem with TB. Maybe it's a bug in MailTraq? Definitely not! See above: v2.02.03 CE *does* show the message size while talking to the same server. Looks to me a an undocumented change in the MD. During telnet tests I have seen that Mailtraq reports the UIDL for each message when responding to the LIST command, as in: +OK verified, you have 23 message(s) list +OK 23 messages (7569754 octets) 1 5406 ATFRFB2ACDBB 2 ...etc... . Where another server (Cubic Circle Pop3 v1.31) reports: +OK Congratulations! list +OK 1 messages (989 octets) 1 989 . Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Official announcement of Mary Bull to keeper of PCWSmileys
On Tue, 6 Jul 2004 12:43:33 -0500, Mary Bull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was honored to be offered the job. Congrats, Mary! ... Douglas Adams's *Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy* ... BTW A must-read for *any* biped, geek or no. (heed, list, heed!) Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: No message size in the Mail Dispatcher
On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 12:29:19 +0200, Roelof Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When using the Mail Dispatcher to view my mailbox, I'm seeing all messages listed as size 0. During a telnet session to my server, it's listing the message size in bytes when prompted with the same commands as TB is using. To continue on this topic, I just found out that the Mail Dispatcher of TB 2.02.3 CE (on my colleague's WinXP SP1) *does* show the message sizes when using a POP3 account on Mailtraq v2.5.1.1580 - while my TB (v2.10.01, also on WinXP SP1) doesn't. Can anyone confirm this (not) showing of message sizes or does anyone have a similar situation with mail servers different fom Mailtraq? Or: do newer version sown the msg sizes? Thanks! Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Error creating ...\mail\BayesIt folder on startup?!
Hi TBUDLler, I don't think this is correct, but I can't get it corrected either... When starting BT v2.10.01 everytime I get the noted error in a small dialog behind the splash screen; clicking OK continues the startup, and it seems TB is doing it's job nicely after. If ...\mail\BayesIt does not exists (eg. I rename or remove the folder), TB creates this folder by itself - and at nest start, complains about the existing folder again... This filtering has never been used by me, and AFAIK it's not enabled. Anyone knows what I should do to correct / prevent this error? Thanks! Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: No message size in the Mail Dispatcher
On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 01:40:58 +0700, Thomas Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, I use the mail dispatcher often and the size is shown correctly. Same happens to me, but only with Mailtraq I'm experiencing the same as Roelof - who was triggered by my posting in the Mailtraq support list, I assume ;) I just performed a quick telnet test against a public server runnig Cubic Circle (showing sizes in the dispatcher) and Mailtraq Professional 2.5.1.1580 (one of the latest builds, not showing sizes in the dispatcher). Both servers show the message size upon entering command TOP 1 0, but Mailtraq does not add the string octets as in +OK 6205 octets - could that be the problem? That's the only diff I can see... -- ©ory Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
HTML editor: mail addresses get removed from quoted message body text?
Hi all, I imagine this must have been noticed -and discussed here- before, but I couldn't find anything similar in the mail archive. And as there's no official forum at Ritlabs' site anymore... a posting here (and thus a new subscription yet) seems to be the only way to get this confirmed - and in time corrected, I hope. So here goes: when using the HTML-editor for outgoing messages, mail addresses in the quoted text are removed. Both for replies and forwards, throughout the complete message text - not only %OFROM as might be used in the templates. I performed several tests with all kinds of messages (like multiple-forwarded eg. FWD:[FWD:[Re:...) and it seems to have something to do with the 's and 's in the original text: everything in between and including these brackets that looks like a mail address is removed. This appears in both versions I tried: 2.03.3 CE and 2.10.01. OK, I know this is not an issue for me since I do not use the HTML editor myself, but my colleagues do - and this gets very inconvenient and frustrating. Imagine an agent asking you for the original mail address after a forward, in which you asked him to do the follow-up... Your comment greatly appreciated. Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New Version Spotted 2.01.3
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 14:35:04 -0700, Melissa Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's really unfortunate that this had to be fixed by those not at all at fault here. That sure is - as usual, the good suffer for the bad. Is there anything we can do to help shutdown the original spammer/software that started this whole mess? Not much, I'm afraid - educate e-mail users, change the world and weed out all Outhouse (Exp) is the only way, but way out of reach for the small minority that we are. Who is ever being taken serious when this is discussed and you mention the possibility of using /other/ than free or cracked software that is not prone to be virus-infected? Personally, 1 out of 100 times if I recall well. But as long as there are even sysadmins of huge corporations advising me to assign a pretty DNS name to our company's mailserver, in this respect I've not much confidence in fellow-bipeds. Duh. -- Cory Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Re[2]: HTML as default on v2.00 ...........?
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 16:23:11 +0200, Marek Mikus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In 2.01 version will be possible to selecect HTML as default in Preferences and AFAIK macros for selecting message type are planned. Thank you for this info. The macros would do well too (I didn't think of that option), but the default on is not my style - and IMHO that shouldn't be supported by TB!'s either. Although, speaking business-wise that might open a larger share of the e-mail client market. Grtz, Cory Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML as default on v2.00 ...........?
On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 18:30:16 +0200, Jurgen Haug [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But a per address book entry setting would be great! _If someone from Ritlabs is reading my 2 cents: Can't we have that???_ Add to that a per-account (or even per-folder, inheritance selectable) setting which enables a HTML-on/off -default to off- in the editor. IMHO, this would do right to the notion of avoiding HTML as much as possible, and still enable those who need the formatting to fairly easily choose to enable it. Simply showing the enable HTML-button in the editor would do too, but that would make HTML a little too accessible ;) And -I realise while typing the above- needs a huge Undo-buffer also; if not there certainly would arise complaints about TB! not being able to support the free choice of yes or no HTML (Yes indeed, I'm 99% against HTML e-mail.) -- BR, Cory (using Forté Agent to follow TBUDL, and who would love to see Forté and RitLabs team up to combine the best of both products in an unbeatable mail/news agent) Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Unknown attachments
Hello Quin, Tuesday, February 27, 2001, 8:07:55 PM, you wrote: AA flatfinal jpg2/23 (AA_flat_final_i p2_231) Base 64 110,349 bytes --snipped-- QS Any ideas? What you might try is copy the coded lines into a new file, and have this file processed by a separate decoder like XFerPro. This worked in a few cases for me - I can't recall if it needed the "header" as seen above or not. To figure out how exactly the coded file should start, just encode a .jpg and see how that looks. -- Best regards, Corymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
