Re: Problem connecting to multiple email accounts on the same server
Sorry Leif but this will not work. Cause 3 * 5 = 15. True - it would be impossible to set up a scheme with periodic checking where accounts never check at the same time. At any rate, aliasing is the better solution for all but the extreme purposes. I do the same - several aliases and one account. The only thing I don't like is when I'm not at my machine and I check via the web - my mailbox has hundreds of messages and it's hard to see what's important. I suppose the ideal solution would be to have two boxes - one for personal mail and one for groups and newsletters and such. It's nice only having to worry about one account, but unfortunately, not everyone can do this :/ -- Ravi (http://shell-shocked.org) Lottery: A tax on people who don't understand statistics.. Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem connecting to multiple email accounts on the same server
Hello choppystride, Friday, June 20, 2003, 3:45:37 PM, in a galaxy far, far away, choppystride wrote: c Hello, c My email provider provides an unlimted number of email boxes. I c currently need to setup 24 for myself. Ouch! I thought my 16 on 12 different servers was extreme! c I am having trouble retrieving mail from all my accounts at once c (i.e. by using the Tools - Check Mail for All command). The c problem seems to be caused by the fact that my email provider only c allows 4 simultaneous connection to their email server from the c same IP. Same here.. :-( c Interestingly, I've tried this with the Pegasus email client (v4.11) c and had no problems. Not sure why this is the case. Perhaps it c connects to and then disconnects from the server each time an account c is checked? I believe Pegasus checks accounts sequentially, while TB! checks all concurrently! c Any suggestions to overcome this problem will be greatly appreciated. Use scripts (or different time periods) to check only 3 accounts at a time! This should be a request for the wish list for an option to check sequentially OR concurrently. -- Warmest tropical wishes, Spike T-shirts are th' novels of the nineties. - Zippy the Pinhead -- /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign - Against HTML Mail \ / If it aint a webpage it shouldn't be HTML. XSay NO! to bloatmail - ban HTML mail! / \ Ask Spikey, he hates everything (HTML). -- Composed sent using TheBat! v1.62r hamstrung by Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem connecting to multiple email accounts on the same server
On Sat 21-Jun-03 4:48pm -0400, Spike wrote: I believe Pegasus checks accounts sequentially, while TB! checks all concurrently! My last email client offered a global choice for concurrent or sequential. A better approach is to choose at the account level. That way, as TB goes through the accounts, concurrent accounts would be added and sequential would be queued. -- Best regards, Bill Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem connecting to multiple email accounts on the same server
Hello Bill McCarthy, On or about Saturday, June 21, 2003 at 18:33:20GMT -0400 (which was 5:33 PM in the tropics where I live) Bill McCarthy posted: BM My last email client offered a global choice for concurrent or BM sequential. A better approach is to choose at the account level. BM That way, as TB goes through the accounts, concurrent accounts would BM be added and sequential would be queued. A good idea graduated to a GREAT one! -- Warmest tropical wishes, Spike Quote for the millisecond: Have you ever noticed that anybody going slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac? /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign - Against HTML Mail \ / If it aint a webpage it shouldn't be HTML. XSay NO! to bloatmail - ban HTML mail! / \ Ask Spikey, he hates everything (HTML). -- Using TheBat! v1.62r hamstrung by Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1' -- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem connecting to multiple email accounts on the same server
Hello choppystride, Friday, June 20, 2003, 2:45:37 PM, you wrote: c Any suggestions to overcome this problem will be greatly c appreciated. One, for each account I would set the check messages every n minutes to differing times. So one set of four mail accounts to check every 3 minutes, another set every 5 minutes, 7, 11, 13, 17. Since those are all prime numbers, there shouldn't be any overlap in times unless an account from a previous set doesn't finish before the next set starts. Once you have it set, exit TB, then restart TB. I'm just guessing at this, but I think it will work. Now, another thing to think about is aliasing 24 e-mail addresses to a single e-mail account. For instance, with my domain PCWize.com I have one mailbox account, but I have 50 or so e-mail addresses which point to that account. Then in TB, I just filter based on the Recipient, and it goes to whatever folder. i.e. editor at pcwize is the address I used for my newsletter for people to write to me at, and it goes to the same account as my tb at pcwize addresses, but they get filtered to different folders, because they are for different things. Unless you have a serious reason for having to have 24 separate mailboxes, aliasing is the way to go. -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Using The Bat! 1.63 Beta/10 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem connecting to multiple email accounts on the same server
Hello Leif, Oh, forgot, just in case, here's how to get to the timed checking. Account / Properties / Options, Periodical checking every n minutes. -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Using The Bat! 1.63 Beta/10 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem connecting to multiple email accounts on the same server
On Friday, June 20, 2003, 23:08:17 (-0600 GMT) Leif Gregory wrote: One, for each account I would set the check messages every n minutes to differing times. So one set of four mail accounts to check every 3 minutes, another set every 5 minutes, 7, 11, 13, 17. Since those are all prime numbers, there shouldn't be any overlap in times unless an account from a previous set doesn't finish before the next set starts. Sorry Leif but this will not work. Cause 3 * 5 = 15. So every 15 minutes TB will then query 8 Accounts. 3 * 7 = 21 So every 21 minutes TB will then query 8 Accounts. End so on. -- Best regards Heinz Hombergs mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member of then OPN developerteam (http://www.openphpnuke.com) Written with The Bat! Version 1.63 Beta/11 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Fingerprint: 36DE F798 52E2 30A7 F12C 0493 4226 7422 B6E8 E34E Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem connecting to multiple email accounts on the same server
Hello Leif, Friday, June 20, 2003, 6:08:17 PM, you wrote: One, for each account I would set the check messages every n minutes to differing times. So one set of four mail accounts to check every 3 minutes, another set every 5 minutes, 7, 11, 13, 17. I think this should be a short-term solution. And, that a more permanent solution be implemented in the next version of TB (1.63). In example, have an option so that the check messages is done sequentially. This is probably a scenario that either wasn't thought of at design time and/or nobody reported before. -- Best regards, Daniel Rail Senior System Engineer ACCRA Group Inc. (www.accra.ca) ACCRA Med Software Inc. (www.filopto.com) Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem connecting to multiple email accounts on the same server
Hello Heinz, Friday, June 20, 2003, 3:45:16 PM, you wrote: HH Sorry Leif but this will not work. Cause 3 * 5 = 15. So every 15 HH minutes TB will then query 8 Accounts. 3 * 7 = 21 So every 21 HH minutes TB will then query 8 Accounts. End so on. Yeah, that is true... I forgot about that. Thanks :-P At any rate, aliasing is the better solution for all but the extreme purposes. -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Using The Bat! 1.63 Beta/10 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Problem connecting to multiple email accounts on the same server
Hello, My email provider provides an unlimted number of email boxes. I currently need to setup 24 for myself. I am having trouble retrieving mail from all my accounts at once (i.e. by using the Tools - Check Mail for All command). The problem seems to be caused by the fact that my email provider only allows 4 simultaneous connection to their email server from the same IP. I've tested this out by using the /CHECK command in scripts and can produce this problem consistently when I check more than 4 accounts at a time. What happens during these tests are that, the first 4 accounts will connect and retrieve all mails successfully. However, subsequent accounts would seem to get stuck, causing the Connection Center to hang indefinitely. I would then need to terminate the Connection Center by pressing the abort button. Note that this error occurs whether I am connecting to an IMAP or a POP3 server. I've also tried using multiple /CHECK commands in my script by specifying 4 accounts at a time but it did not make any difference. Currently, the only thing I can do is check each account separately via mouseclicks or the F2 hotkey. Needless to say, this is very inconvenient considering the number of accounts that I have. Interestingly, I've tried this with the Pegasus email client (v4.11) and had no problems. Not sure why this is the case. Perhaps it connects to and then disconnects from the server each time an account is checked? Any suggestions to overcome this problem will be greatly appreciated. BTW, my email providing uses qmail on Linux. -- Best regards, choppystride mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! v1.62q Windows XP Pro v5.1 bld 2600 (Service Pack 1) Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem connecting to multiple email accounts on the same server
Hello choppystride, Friday, June 20, 2003, 7:52:44 PM, you wrote: DR I think this should be a short-term solution. And, that a more DR permanent solution be implemented in the next version of TB (1.63). In Are you saying that Ritlabs is aware of this problem and that a solution is near completion? Unfortunately, I'm not. I was browsing thru their bugtrap and saw a bug titled Mail fetching (POP3) hangs dated Jan 22. I wonder if this is the same one that I'm experiencing. Perhaps I should report mine? Yes you should submit your bug report. They could probably decide if it is related or not. DR example, have an option so that the check messages is done DR sequentially. This is probably a scenario that either wasn't thought DR of at design time and/or nobody reported before. As I've said before, I've tried Pegasus which doesn't have this bug b/c it seems to be checking the accounts sequentially. However, it also seems to be very slow, much slower than TB when I tested them out by having them check only 4 accounts (the limit imposed by my email provider). So perhaps we should be allowed to specify how many accounts to check at a time to minimize the possible performance loss. But then of course my tests were not exactly precise scientific experiments. And also, I'm assuming here that this 4-at-a-time limit is the source of the problem, which may or may not be. This could be a good solution to try. When posting your bug report, make sure to mention all of this, it might give Ritlabs some ideas on how to tackle the problem. -- Best regards, Daniel Rail Senior System Engineer ACCRA Group Inc. (www.accra.ca) ACCRA Med Software Inc. (www.filopto.com) Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
