Re: Closing the programme; address book and groups
Hi The Bat Please could you tell me how to export emails or copy them across (hundreds of them) from The Bat into Outlook? Is there also a simple way to duplicate or replicate the Bat folder structure in Outlook? Many thanks All the best Paul Paul Jackson Associates [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07973 953586 www.impro.org.uk www.thesolutionsfocus.com www.breakpointcoaching.com www.writingforresults.co.uk we'll bring out the best in you Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Closing the programme; address book and groups
Hallo Paul, On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 10:48:55 +GMT (2-12-03, 11:48 +0100, where I live), you wrote: PJ Please could you tell me how to export emails or copy them across PJ (hundreds of them) from The Bat into Outlook? You can't do that in an easy way, since Outlook uses a non disclosed message base format. The best way to get your messages from TB to MS Outlook is to export your messages to *.eml, afterwards drag those files via Windows Explorer to Outlook Express and then import them into Outlook (which is able to import from OE) PJ Is there also a simple way to duplicate or replicate the Bat PJ folder structure in Outlook? Has to be done manually. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Closing the programme; address book and groups
Hello Johannes, On Tue, 10 Sep 2002 20:28:38 +0200 GMT (11/09/02, 01:28 +0700 GMT), Johannes Posel wrote: IIRC you run your own servers. Do you have any way of finding out what causes this? Is there an open socket, or why is the thread not closed by TB while the connection with the server has already terminated? JP The server connection did not even begin! TB dies at the initial SSL JP setup :( I know that when I had that problem, I didn't use SSL. But anyway, I suppose yu already looked at the log and couldn't determine where and why the connection didn't begin. It is difficult to reproduce it at will; but maybe you have diagnostic tools that help us find out what is happening. JP There's nothing in, I will increase the log level... If you come up with something, I am sure you'll let us know. I for one have run out of ideas. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Man kann es neun Wochen ohne Essen aushalten, aber dann ist man natuerlich tot... Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Closing the programme; address book and groups
Hello Johannes! On Monday, September 9, 2002 at 10:54:00 PM you wrote: Is there anything that one can do? It happens somewhat exclusively on servers that use SSL connections, and most of times even before TB logs into the POP3 server. I'm running 1.62b4. Once, I let TB run, and after more than 3 hours (!), I killed it because it really wouldnt sort this our on it's own. IIRC, there is no way to tell TB! to take more time; as secure servers tend to take a bit longer - I've tested it with several mail servers, from GMX to a widespread ISP (Puretec) to my local ISP (Hansenet) - it could just be the case that TB! times out without releasing. The best solution would be an optimised server profile by the SysAd. Mind you, you are much better with technicalities than me, this is just a thought. -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.61 on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C When you realize you've made a mistake, take immediate steps to correct it. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Closing the programme; address book and groups
Hello Johannes, On Mon, 9 Sep 2002 22:54:00 +0200 GMT (10/09/02, 03:54 +0700 GMT), Johannes Posel wrote: JP I'd like to go back on this, even if it's already a bit older ;) Good, as it has not been solved or even narrowed down yet. ;-) JP I *often*, meaning once to twice per day, have to kill TB the hard JP way (Win2k process manager - Kill process thebat.exe), because of JP such broken connections, which do not want to be aborted. IIRC you run your own servers. Do you have any way of finding out what causes this? Is there an open socket, or why is the thread not closed by TB while the connection with the server has already terminated? It is difficult to reproduce it at will; but maybe you have diagnostic tools that help us find out what is happening. JP Is there anything that one can do? Not yet, as the bug has not been reported to Ritlabs. All we can do is find out when it happens. They cannot go and look for a bug if we cannot tell them the circumstances. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Dim sum. (Latin for: I forget.) Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Closing the programme; address book and groups
Dear Dierk, Going back 08:29 10.09.2002... IIRC, there is no way to tell TB! to take more time; as secure servers tend to take a bit longer - I've tested it with several mail servers, from GMX to a widespread ISP (Puretec) to my local ISP (Hansenet) - it could just be the case that TB! times out without releasing. But shouldn't it then release the socket? I mean with regular connections, you can press Abort as well! Isn't this a bug, then? The best solution would be an optimised server profile by the SysAd. Well, I'm the server admin, so no luck, the stunnel log files don't give any clue. It works in 99,9% of times ;) Mind you, you are much better with technicalities than me, this is just a thought. ;) Cheers, Johannesmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- M ust C onsult S omeone E xperienced. ~ Michael Holzt in [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Closing the programme; address book and groups
Dear Thomas, Going back 08:57 10.09.2002... IIRC you run your own servers. Do you have any way of finding out what causes this? Is there an open socket, or why is the thread not closed by TB while the connection with the server has already terminated? The server connection did not even begin! TB dies at the initial SSL setup :( It is difficult to reproduce it at will; but maybe you have diagnostic tools that help us find out what is happening. There's nothing in, I will increase the log level... Cheers, Johannesmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- If the odds are a million to one against something occurring, chances are 50-50 it will. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Closing the programme; address book and groups
Hello Johannes, On Tue, 10 Sep 2002 20:21:52 +0200 GMT (11/09/02, 01:21 +0700 GMT), Johannes Posel wrote: IIRC, there is no way to tell TB! to take more time; as secure servers tend to take a bit longer - I've tested it with several mail servers, from GMX to a widespread ISP (Puretec) to my local ISP (Hansenet) - it could just be the case that TB! times out without releasing. JP But shouldn't it then release the socket? I mean with regular JP connections, you can press Abort as well! Isn't this a bug, then? It is not a bug, as the above is not the case: when timeout occurs, the socket is released. I experience this often enough. :-( -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. I intend to live forever - so far, so good. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Closing the programme; address book and groups
Dear Dierk, Going back 22:11 30.08.2002... This happens when - as the message states - a task is pending, usually a broken connection, which TB! tries to establish. I'd like to go back on this, even if it's already a bit older ;) I *often*, meaning once to twice per day, have to kill TB the hard way (Win2k process manager - Kill process thebat.exe), because of such broken connections, which do not want to be aborted. Is there anything that one can do? It happens somewhat exclusively on servers that use SSL connections, and most of times even before TB logs into the POP3 server. I'm running 1.62b4. Once, I let TB run, and after more than 3 hours (!), I killed it because it really wouldnt sort this our on it's own. Thanks for any clues :) Vale! Johannesmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You never know who is right, but you always know who is in charge. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Closing the programme; address book and groups
Hello Thomas, On Monday, September 2, 2002 at 15:45 GMT +0700, clairvoyants were mystified when Thomas F. [TF] conjured: TF I'll try that later, but I will believe you for now. ;-) Well, it seems I read your previous message a little too hastily. TB does appear to *download* all messages even while waiting for filters, but it doesn't appear to import them until the filters have done their trick. TF This would leave the possibility open that a copy/move filter hangs TF for some reason, and this is the unkillable thread/task that causes TF the problem. No need to be a problem with the connection itself. Is TF that right? I don't know. The thing which makes the external process action freeze TB's CC is having the Wait for completion option checked. No other action has that type of option (at least not accessible to users). -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal With these words, this page is no longer blank but is complete. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Closing the programme; address book and groups
Hello Januk, On Sat, 31 Aug 2002 22:28:18 -0700 GMT (01/09/02, 12:28 +0700 GMT), Januk Aggarwal wrote: TF And that task would be killable by hitting Delete TF or Abort. JA Nope. Try it. Make a simple .bat script that has one line containing JA Pause. Then run it from a broad filter. Watch what happens when JA the filter is invoked before you manually kill the script's window. I'll try that later, but I will believe you for now. ;-) JA Which is why I said, just another thing to check. I've had the JA problem you're describing too, but typically, I've found that to JA be killable with the Abort/Delete buttons. The only time *I've* JA experienced a non-killable hang is with a misbehaving script. This would leave the possibility open that a copy/move filter hangs for some reason, and this is the unkillable thread/task that causes the problem. No need to be a problem with the connection itself. Is that right? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. On the other hand, you have different fingers. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Closing the programme; address book and groups
Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 The unfinished task is the dial-up connection to Supanet. This task which sounds like it is in a state of failure/locked waiting. If your default settings are to dial this ISP, check the settings and find out why it may not be connecting. If this is a spurious setting on the account network settings, check it out there. I've had a look at the settings and can't see why it would not be connecting. It does connect when I send and receive mail, then disconnects automatically at the end of that task. What else might it be waiting for? Or could there be another unfinished task, unrelated to the dial-up settings? There's also a tab at the top of the Connection Centre IIRC that shows the progress of the actual dial-up task. I could be confused about that though because I usually use a LAN connection. What is the Connection Centre IIRC, please? Many thanks Paul Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Closing the programme; address book and groups
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Thomas, @31-Aug-2002, 16:08 +0700 (10:08 UK time) Thomas F. [TF] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: MDP Having said that, some tasks are so deadlocked they don't even MDP respond to the abort request. TF Do you have an idea how to reproduce this? No, but I have seen such things happen on dial-up connections before. Not since early v1.54 betas though. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.91-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9cJR4OeQkq5KdzaARAi/EAKCl2icvBwPa/Bk55/ghU5BJgisOswCgmOTa 6uwlXvyF9kvwwf0Qr4RH3mI= =bM3R -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Closing the programme; address book and groups
Hello Marck, On Sat, 31 Aug 2002 11:10:04 +0100 GMT (31/08/02, 17:10 +0700 GMT), Marck D Pearlstone wrote: PZJ What is the Connection Centre IIRC, please? MDP The Connection Centre, 'If I Remember Correctly'. The title of that window is Dial-Up - NameOfDunConnection when you connect manually by hitting alt-F2. The title is Connection Center when you are on a LAN, or if you check mail while a connection is already established. Maybe Paul doesn't see a window called Connection Center and was therefore confused. MDP BTW - one common error in configuring DUN connections is to leave MDP Log On to Network checked, which slows the connection process down MDP immensely and fails to do anything with most ISP PPP connections. MDP That's just a tip and nothing to do with the issue in question. What a great tip! I just unchecked this box in my DUN connection configuration and am connected much faster. Thanks. :-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. When they broke open molecules, they found they were only stuffed with atoms. But when they broke open atoms, they found them stuffed with explosions. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Closing the programme; address book and groups
Hi Marck, On Friday, August 30, 2002 at 22:35 GMT +0100, resistance was high, but Marck Pearlstone [MP] made current: MP There is usually only one kind of long-term task that causes this. MP The Connection Centre is having trouble with a connection. You MP probably have it hidden and can't see what's wrong. Under Options | MP Preferences | General set the Display Connection Centre to MP Always (temporarily) to enable you to identify the unfinished MP task. While I doubt Paul has done this, the connection center can *seem* to hang if a script in a filter is misbehaving. Typically this will be a filter that runs an external process (script/program) and that script or program stalls. Just another thing to check if all else fails. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Ok, who is General Relativity, and what did he do with Sir Newton? Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Closing the programme; address book and groups
Hello Januk, On Sat, 31 Aug 2002 20:19:49 -0700 GMT (01/09/02, 10:19 +0700 GMT), Januk Aggarwal wrote: JA While I doubt Paul has done this, the connection center can *seem* JA to hang if a script in a filter is misbehaving. JA Typically this will be a filter that runs an external process JA (script/program) and that script or program stalls. Are you sure about this? It means that the next mail will be downloaded only if the previous one has been processed through the filters; and if the filter calls an external program with wait for program completion marked, downloading must be halted during that program's execution. I don't think this would be a very wise algorithm, that's why I ask whether you know or assume TB acts like that. Apart from that, the Connection Center would still show the running task, wouldn't it? And that task would be killable by hitting Delete or Abort. JA Just another thing to check if all else fails. FWIW there were no filters calling any external programs or scripts when the problem occurred on my box a couple of months back. The running task was definitely the Connection Center itself. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Ad: Our experienced Mom will care of your child. Fenced yard, meals, and smacks included. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Closing the programme; address book and groups
Hello Thomas, It was foretold that on Sunday, September 1, 2002 at 10:57 GMT +0700, Thomas F. [TF] would type: TF Are you sure about this? It means that the next mail will be TF downloaded only if the previous one has been processed through the TF filters; Yup, that is correct. TF and if the filter calls an external program with wait for TF program completion marked, downloading must be halted during that TF program's execution. That's how it works. If you use Marck's SpamCop filters, you can see this in action very easily. Just watch what happens as the response filter spawns the batch file that runs IE. TF I don't think this would be a very wise algorithm, that's why I ask TF whether you know or assume TB acts like that. It happens all the time here. I use VBScripts for various things and if I change mail directories or something without updating the scripts, I get this happening. The script fails (silently) but the script process continues to run, so TB seems to hang. If you kill the script forcibly, then TB can be revived. TF Apart from that, the Connection Center would still show the running TF task, wouldn't it? Yes, but it isn't obvious why the CC is stopped. It is easy to blame TB when it really is the external program's fault. TF And that task would be killable by hitting Delete TF or Abort. Nope. Try it. Make a simple .bat script that has one line containing Pause. Then run it from a broad filter. Watch what happens when the filter is invoked before you manually kill the script's window. TF FWIW there were no filters calling any external programs or TF scripts when the problem occurred on my box a couple of months TF back. The running task was definitely the Connection Center TF itself. Which is why I said, just another thing to check. I've had the problem you're describing too, but typically, I've found that to be killable with the Abort/Delete buttons. The only time *I've* experienced a non-killable hang is with a misbehaving script. Again, I'm talking only about the current version. I will not presume to discuss previous versions. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.61 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A This sentence lets you know this page was not a mistake. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Closing the programme; address book and groups
Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Hi TBUDL, I've started using The Bat, and am tempted to migrate fully from Outlook. But... there are one or two things puzzling and troubling me. Perhaps you can help. 1The programme doesn't close when clicked on the usual X in the top right corner. Instead, I get the message Some tasks are now active. Do you want to exit when they are finished?. A 'No' tick just makes the box disappear. A 'Yes' tick brings the box back again, sometimes in several overlaid boxes at once. So, how do I close the programme without the current solution of resorting to the task manager in Windows 2000 and ending whatever task the Bat thinks it's running - which is nothing identifiable anyway? 2 I'd like to set up some Groups, and can't find ways to: select names from my address list to copy to the group. They will move across, but vanish from the main address list in doing so. show in the main address list which group or groups any given addressee belongs to. send a personalised email to each addressee in the group, so they receive an email with their name in the To Box and their first name on the first line of the message itself. How are these things best done? Answers in simple language, please. With best wishes Paul Z Jackson ** Paul Jackson Associates [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01225 336669 www.impro.org.uk www.writingforresults.co.uk www.thesolutionsfocus.com We'll bring out the best in you *** Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Closing the programme; address book and groups
Sh'mae The, On Fri, 30 Aug 2002, at 20:50:18 [GMT +0100] (or 20:50 in Wales) regarding 'Closing the programme; address book and groups' you wrote: PZJ Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 PZJ Hi TBUDL, PZJ I've started using The Bat, and am tempted to migrate fully from PZJ Outlook. But... there are one or two things puzzling and troubling PZJ me. Perhaps you can help. Im an Outlook migratee! PZJ 1 The programme doesn't close when clicked on the usual X in the top right PZJ corner. MM sounds odd - sounds like a bug - is it perhaps fetching mail when you do that? PZJ 2 I'd like to set up some Groups, and can't find ways to: Right click on each entry and select properties, you can set the group there a. -- | 30 August 2002, 21:01 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://new-wales.net | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] - PGP Public Key Request | There's a pizza place near where I live that sells only slices... in the back you can see a guy tossing a triangle in the air... Email traffic scanned with AntiVir Mail Gateway for Linux Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Closing the programme; address book and groups
Hello Paul! On Friday, August 30, 2002 at 9:50:18 PM you wrote: 1The programme doesn't close when clicked on the usual X in the top right corner. Instead, I get the message Some tasks are now active. Do you want to exit when they are finished?. This happens when - as the message states - a task is pending, usually a broken connection, which TB! tries to establish. Without this TB! closes as other programmes. send a personalised email to each addressee in the group, so they receive an email with their name in the To Box and their first name on the first line of the message itself. You can/have to set up templates for your entries. You can use so-called Quick Templates, Macros and even Regular Expression to achieve a very high standard of individualising. For your purpose particularly look for Macro and Templates in the help. And a tip: Although at the beginning you have to set up some very basic templates for your adressees, choose to utilize QT's, too. With only ten of them (and a few very specific ones for special occasions) I am able to personalise all my private and business mail correctly. -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.61 on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C When people have problems using a design, it's not because they are stupid. It's because the design is too difficult. (Jakob Nielsen) Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Closing the programme; address book and groups
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Paul, @30-Aug-2002, 20:50 Paul Z Jackson [PZJ] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: PZJ 1The programme doesn't close when clicked on the usual X in PZJ the top right corner. Instead, I get the message Some tasks PZJ are now active. Do you want to exit when they are finished?. There is usually only one kind of long-term task that causes this. The Connection Centre is having trouble with a connection. You probably have it hidden and can't see what's wrong. Under Options | Preferences | General set the Display Connection Centre to Always (temporarily) to enable you to identify the unfinished task. PZJ 2 I'd like to set up some Groups, and can't find ways to: PZJ select names from my address list to copy to the group. PZJ They will move across, but vanish from the main address PZJ list in doing so. This is because the group you are putting them in has the option Hide items if not explicitly selected ticked. PZJ show in the main address list which group or groups any PZJ given addressee belongs to. You have to open the individual's entry to see this. If it's important for you to see this information, put a copy of it into another field that is displayable as an address book column. PZJ send a personalised email to each addressee in the group, PZJ so they receive an email with their name in the To Box and PZJ their first name on the first line of the message itself. This can only be achieved using the mass mailing options using quick templates to create the body of the message. Look at Mass mailing in the Help file. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.91-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9b+U+OeQkq5KdzaARAg9SAKDVjzAb8jv73JIqDKVCt2Y33sWvIACg6v+k J7i69u0tgL5RJyYxkpb8r6I= =q0fA -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Closing the programme; address book and groups
Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Hi Mark PZJ 1The programme doesn't close when clicked on the usual X in PZJ the top right corner. Instead, I get the message Some tasks PZJ are now active. Do you want to exit when they are finished?. There is usually only one kind of long-term task that causes this. The Connection Centre is having trouble with a connection. You probably have it hidden and can't see what's wrong. Under Options | Preferences | General set the Display Connection Centre to Always (temporarily) to enable you to identify the unfinished task. I've set this up as you suggest, and there's a box called 'Dial-Up Supanet', which has a blue block under the 'Task' heading. I've tried (variously) clicking the blue box - which then whites out; clicking Abort; clicking Delete Task. All seem to have no effect when I then try to close the programme. It still responds as outlined above. What is the unfinished task? And what can be re-set so that it either finishes, or doesn't need doing at all? Many thanks Paul Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Closing the programme; address book and groups
Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 PZJ 2 I'd like to set up some Groups, and can't find ways to: PZJ select names from my address list to copy to the group. PZJ They will move across, but vanish from the main address PZJ list in doing so. This is because the group you are putting them in has the option Hide items if not explicitly selected ticked. Thanks - this now does allow a copy in each section. PZJ show in the main address list which group or groups any PZJ given addressee belongs to. You have to open the individual's entry to see this. If it's important for you to see this information, put a copy of it into another field that is displayable as an address book column. I'd like to do this, but clicking the 'properties' results in a box saying 'Invalid Argument to Date Encode'. This may be because the addresses were imported (with great difficulty) from Outlook or Outlook Express, and are therefore not set up quite right. I still have the original address book if there's a 'right' way to import them, such that the 'properties' are accessible. Many thanks Paul Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Closing the programme; address book and groups
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Paul, @30-Aug-2002, 23:21 Paul Z Jackson [PZJ] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: PZJ ... 'Invalid Argument to Date Encode'. This may be because the PZJ addresses were imported (with great difficulty) from Outlook or PZJ Outlook Express, and are therefore not set up quite right. Correct! PZJ I still have the original address book if there's a 'right' way PZJ to import them, such that the 'properties' are accessible. There is - exclude the BirthDate field. That will fix it. Any blank birthdates are incorrectly imported with an invalid date value. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.91-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9b/VjOeQkq5KdzaARAhEXAKCnpcCVbukNFAcWZpQzMnKugvn0ywCbBphn qNhzkvEl5lQvMCWw1T+fcDU= =ehrZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Closing the programme; address book and groups
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Paul, @30-Aug-2002, 23:12 Paul Z Jackson [PZJ] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: PZJ I've set this up as you suggest, and there's a box called PZJ 'Dial-Up Supanet', which has a blue block under the 'Task' PZJ heading. ... snip PZJ What is the unfinished task? And what can be re-set so that it PZJ either finishes, or doesn't need doing at all? The unfinished task is the dial-up connection to Supanet. This task which sounds like it is in a state of failure/locked waiting. If your default settings are to dial this ISP, check the settings and find out why it may not be connecting. If this is a spurious setting on the account network settings, check it out there. If you can iron out why the task is in deadlock you'll free up TB's exit point. BTW: The blue block is the currently selected task. By clicking it back to white, the task is no longer selected and the the Abort or Delete actions don't know what task to hit (even though there's only one). Having said that, some tasks are so deadlocked they don't even respond to the abort request. There's also a tab at the top of the Connection Centre IIRC that shows the progress of the actual dial-up task. I could be confused about that though because I usually use a LAN connection. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.91-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9b/hxOeQkq5KdzaARAvkJAKDQrbBZs0qd3X8Hj6qC2y1ooN6/7QCghVr8 KdenyOtw6LBqaw3gz3oR8h0= =+NFu -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
