Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Tuesday, September 16, 2003, 4:24:51 PM, MAU wrote: M I'm not old I'm just 60 :-(( Not at all _old_ Miguel... just older than you used to be.. !!! ;-) -- Cheers, Anne Flying high with The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows 98 4.10 Build Visit The Bat! Users' Unofficial Help Forum http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Tuesday, September 16, 2003, 4:27:10 PM, MAU wrote: M Smell fish in a garden? Hm, that cat! ;-) Probably one of those _really big_ black ones we have around here heading for TBOT in a hurry... am _really_ pushing my luck here!!! ;-) -- Cheers, Anne Flying high with The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows 98 4.10 Build Visit The Bat! Users' Unofficial Help Forum http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
OT: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello Anne, Tuesday, September 16, 2003, 3:43:10 PM, you wrote: A Not at all _old_ Miguel... just older than you used to be.. !!! ;-) moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Anne. This thread is moving into the Off-Topic realm. Please continue this on TBOT (this message has been CC'd to the TBOT list to maintain threading.) You can subscribe to TBOT by sending a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you. /moderator -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Using The Bat! 2.00 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello Carsten, However, I have noticed that direct replies to one's messages have the MSID of the replied-to message last under references - now I only need some RegEx to hit on only messages where my MSID is the last in the string of references. I don't suppose you have that RegEx worked out already? ((?:\nReferences:[^\n]*?)(?:\n\s[^\n]*?)*(@immer-international\.de\s*\n[\S\n])) Search in Kludges and replace [EMAIL PROTECTED] with your FQDN (»adr\.dk«). Didn't test this till today. Works a treat! Thanks :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.00.6 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello Anne, Err not if I want to retain my kneecaps no Miguel! ;-) Why do you need your kneecaps, do you go to church? ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62r Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello Thomas, You mean this is how Miguel hurt his knee? Wow, I didn't know what hackers/crackers are capabable of... ;-) Mine is not a firewall issue, it is degenerative osteoarthritis ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62r Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hi Carsten, On Mon, 15 Sep 2003, at 20:13:15 [GMT +0200] (which was 04:13 where I live) you wrote: Then you *must* use valid e-mail addresses: They do (or did) accept a someone@deadspam.com address. -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Does Bad FAT mean disk has high cholesterol? Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Tuesday, September 16, 2003, 9:32:48 AM, MAU wrote: M Mine is not a firewall issue, it is degenerative osteoarthritis ;-) Same here Miguel... sign of getting older methinks! ;-) peering sideways in case mod bearing trout is looming into view! -- Cheers, Anne Flying high with The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows 98 4.10 Build Visit The Bat! Users' Unofficial Help Forum http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello Anne, For kneeling weeding in the garden Miguel ;-) heading for TBOT in a hurry cos I can smell fish! Smell fish in a garden? Hm, that cat! ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62r Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Tuesday, September 16, 2003, 9:30:16 AM, MAU wrote: M Why do you need your kneecaps, do you go to church? ;-) For kneeling weeding in the garden Miguel ;-) heading for TBOT in a hurry cos I can smell fish! -- Cheers, Anne Flying high with The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows 98 4.10 Build Visit The Bat! Users' Unofficial Help Forum http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello Anne, sign of getting older methinks! ;-) I'm not old I'm just 60 :-(( -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62r Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello John, Unfortunately when replying, sometimes the reply is cross posted, because the original message was cross posted. Not if you make your reply template include the %TO with only the group you want to reply to. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello Peter, S I am finding this as well, shame the author is not on the list I sent him a mail (as I wrote elsewhere in the thread), but it bounces. Version 2.5 is coming out very soon and it corrects the SMTPNNTP not starting automatically. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello MAU, Not if you make your reply template include the %TO with only the group you want to reply to. For example, when I on on folder es.charla.politica.misc for this newsgroup, may reply _folder_ template is: ,- [ ] | Hola %OFromFName, | %LANGUAGE=SP %TO=%TO=es.charla.politica.misc | El %ODate, %OTimeLong, escribiste: | | %Quotes | %Cursor | | -- | Saludos, | %FromFName `- -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Peter, Sunday, September 14, 2003, 10:15:00 PM, you wrote: PF I sent him a mail (as I wrote elsewhere in the thread), but it bounces. I received a reply from Andrew this morning: qBug is fixed in MyGate 2.5. Release is expected by weekend./q M - -- Best regards, Martin Webster The Bat! 2.00.6 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP2Vsulv+PP8p0/caEQLLUACffHzAViSFLn9ANvAiVVC2S558woMAoNgW TD2kFSxZ7yhKCmSq+D8JWoss =Y8v9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello Peter, On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 21:06:04 +0200 GMT (15/09/2003, 02:06 +0700 GMT), Peter Fjelsten wrote: T I can read but not write. TB says Cannot connect to server. I T re-read the Help on SMTP - NNTP, but cannot get it to work. Here, the SMTP service does not start automatically, although I have set it to do so. I must start it manually on every start. How do you do that? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. If you have a glass eye, tap on it occasionally with your pen while talking to others. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello Michael, On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 20:51:40 +0200 GMT (15/09/2003, 01:51 +0700 GMT), Michael Geyer wrote: I used to use port 25, but the helpfile says I should use the same port as defined for the Gate, so I use port 110. Still no success. What am I doing wrong? There is a port number entry in the SMTP - NNTP (likewise in POP - NNTP) gate configuration. You can enter any _unused_ port on your machine. You have to enter _this_ port in The Bat!'s SMTP port. I have only one point where I can enter the port number: Gate / Properties / Gate / Local port. I have set this to 110, and in TB I have sent the POP port to 110, and it works. Whether I set the SMTP port in TB to 25 or 110, makes no difference. Couuld not connect to the server. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. http://www.maennerseiten.de/pic_gummigiraffe.htm Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello Thomas, I have only one point where I can enter the port number: Gate / Properties / Gate / Local port. I have set this to 110, and in TB I have sent the POP port to 110, and it works. I assume you refer here to a POPNNTP gate, right? A gate to _received_ news and convert to mail, right? Whether I set the SMTP port in TB to 25 or 110, makes no difference. Couuld not connect to the server. Have you created an SMTPNNTP gate? A gate to _send_ mail and convert to news? If so, have you started it manually? I assume you have read that it does not start automatically. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello Thomas, Here, the SMTP service does not start automatically, although I have set it to do so. I must start it manually on every start. How do you do that? Select the gate you want to start and do a Gate/Start :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
MAU, On 15-09-2003 10:35, you [M] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: M Select the gate you want to start and do a Gate/Start :) Exactly! g Though I select it with the mouse and press the play icon... :) -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 2.00.6 /thebat version os Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1/os Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hi Sean, On Sun, 14 Sep 2003, at 22:25:39 [GMT +0100] (which was 07:25 where I live) you wrote: I just sent him one but that has not bounced, as yet I must be lucky - had two replies. Nay nah nah nah :-) -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 *** BIOS is out of date, contact vendor for upgrade *** Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello MAU, On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 10:34:43 +0200 GMT (15/09/2003, 15:34 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: Have you created an SMTPNNTP gate? A gate to _send_ mail and convert to news? Excuse for me for a moment ... blushing secretly in the backgrund ... OK I'm back. If so, have you started it manually? I assume you have read that it does not start automatically. Yes, I have read it and started the brand-new SMTP gate manually. It works fine now, thanks. :-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. From page 468 of Using Turbo C++ by Herbert Schildt: REMEMBER: The private parts of an object are accessible only by functions that are members of that object. (Well, there goes free love...) Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello Thomas, Excuse for me for a moment ... blushing secretly in the backgrund ... OK I'm back. Welcome back! :-)) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello Thomas, Excuse for me for a moment ... blushing secretly in the backgrund ... OK I'm back. Welcome back! :-)) Sorry, I hit Send too soon. Yes, I have read it and started the brand-new SMTP gate manually. It works fine now, thanks. :-) I think you even know the beer brand I like, don't you? ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello MAU, On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 11:58:29 +0200 GMT (15/09/2003, 16:58 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: I think you even know the beer brand I like, don't you? ;-) Mahou... make another tickmark behind my name in your list. I believe this is not the first one I owe you. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. What is this? Arnold Schwarzenegger has a big one... Cher and Madonna don't have one... And the Pope doesn't use his... Answer: A Last Name! Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello Thomas, Mahou... make another tickmark behind my name in your list. I believe this is not the first one I owe you. ;-) When I add the next tickmark I'll be able to see if auto-wrap works on my list ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Monday, September 15, 2003 1:01:21 PM (GMT -05:00) RE: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy Greetings Thomas, On Monday, September 15, 2003, 4:23:14 AM, you wrote: Thomas Whether I set the SMTP port in TB to 25 or 110, makes no difference. Thomas Couuld not connect to the server. Port 119 outbound since you are not sending to an SMTP or POP(3) server? - -- Regards, DG Raftery Sr. This website may not be idiot proof, but at least it's dimwit resistant. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 9.0b1 Comment: KeyID: 0xECFE3F95 Comment: Fingerprint: 8ABE 6728 1CB9 E231 B2C8 C29D BC22 D3D1 ECFE 3F95 iQA/AwUBP2Xwurwi09Hs/j+VEQL6HwCfS/0h7rbM/6jy6tshfVo5PpVjS4cAn25T GJsdsdNSVnofObG4KxYvAekr =/8GC -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello DG, On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 13:02:52 -0400 GMT (16/09/2003, 00:02 +0700 GMT), DG Raftery Sr. wrote: Thomas Whether I set the SMTP port in TB to 25 or 110, makes no difference. Thomas Couuld not connect to the server. Port 119 outbound since you are not sending to an SMTP or POP(3) server? Thanks for your input, but I hadn't set up an SMTPNNTP gate in MyGate. It works fine now. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. For those of you who have children and don't know it, we have a nursery downstairs. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
* MAU [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello Carsten, - On the Properties General tab, include a From and Reply-To address with a fake domain that you know does not exist. This fake domain is the one that will be used to build MIDs and you can then filter on it. No, please don't do that. If you want to be part of USENET then you should follow the rules. Why not Carsten? What I suggested is so that MIDs will be unique to _his_ messages Ok, as long as you don't use fake addresses no problem for me. Sorry, I didn't get the point here. -- Carsten Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
* Thomas Fernandez writes: [ USENET, The Bat! and MyGate ] I even use a valid email-address (one that I don't check very often). Even? AFAIK you use news.cis.dfn.de or news.individual.de|net. Then you *must* use valid e-mail addresses: http://news.individual.net/rules.html http://news.individual.net/faq.html#5.3 http://news.cis.dfn.de/dnn/rules.html(German) http://news.cis.dfn.de/dnn/faq.html#5.3 (German) This is off-topic, isn't it? -- Carsten Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello Carsten, Monday, September 15, 2003, 12:13:15 PM, you wrote: CT Even? AFAIK you use news.cis.dfn.de or news.individual.de|net. Then CT you *must* use valid e-mail addresses: snip CT This is off-topic, isn't it? It's getting there. I've CC'd it to TBOT for you. -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Using The Bat! 2.00 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Sunday, September 14, 2003, 12:32:14 AM, DG wrote: DRS [EMAIL PROTECTED] Could resolve and will query root DNS servers. DRS [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Invalid naming convention. No resolve query. You men that even though it's formatted like an e-mail address TB! knows it isn't because of the invalid and doesn't make it a hotlink ... ? -- Cheers, Anne Flying high with The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows 98 4.10 Build Visit The Bat! Users' Unofficial Help Forum http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Friday, September 12, 2003, 9:14:47 PM, MAU wrote: M That must be it then. Can you disable/exit ZA and make a try? Err not if I want to retain my kneecaps no Miguel! ;-) What I will do is try it on a standalone PC that isn't on the network. One without any personal files, shared drives etc... I won't put mine online without a firewall in case it compromises the network. Thanks for the suggestion though. :-) -- Cheers, Anne Flying high with The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows 98 4.10 Build Visit The Bat! Users' Unofficial Help Forum http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hallo Anne, On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 22:25:42 +0100GMT (15-9-03, 23:25 +0200, where I live), you wrote: DRS [EMAIL PROTECTED] Could resolve and will query root DNS servers. DRS [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Invalid naming convention. No resolve query. A You men that even though it's formatted like an e-mail address TB! A knows it isn't because of the invalid and doesn't make it a hotlink A ... ? It's not the word invalid, but it's that the tld (in this case 'invalid') is longer than four characters. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Monday, September 15, 2003, 11:00:02 PM, Roelof wrote: RO It's not the word invalid, but it's that the tld (in this case RO 'invalid') is longer than four characters. Ahhh right, I see... thanks for the clarification Roelof. :-) -- Cheers, Anne Flying high with The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows 98 4.10 Build Visit The Bat! Users' Unofficial Help Forum http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello Anne, On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 22:31:22 +0100 GMT (16/09/2003, 04:31 +0700 GMT), Anne wrote: M That must be it then. Can you disable/exit ZA and make a try? Err not if I want to retain my kneecaps no Miguel! ;-) You mean this is how Miguel hurt his knee? Wow, I didn't know what hackers/crackers are capabable of... ;-) What I will do is try it on a standalone PC that isn't on the network. One without any personal files, shared drives etc... I won't put mine online without a firewall in case it compromises the network. Good thinking. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. SYMPTOM: Opposite wall covered with fluorescent lights. FAULT: You have fallen over backward. ACTION: Have yourself lashed to bar. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello Carsten, - On the Properties General tab, include a From and Reply-To address with a fake domain that you know does not exist. This fake domain is the one that will be used to build MIDs and you can then filter on it. No, please don't do that. If you want to be part of USENET then you should follow the rules. Why not Carsten? What I suggested is so that MIDs will be unique to _his_ messages and then he can use this fake domain in his filters to look for replies to him and threads that he is involved in. Nothing to do about spam, etc., because he can still use his real address in From and Reply-To. I don't suppose you have that RegEx worked out already? ((?:\nReferences:[^\n]*?)(?:\n\s[^\n]*?)*(@immer-international\.de\s*\n[\S\n])) Search in Kludges and replace [EMAIL PROTECTED] with your FQDN (»adr\.dk«). I'll have to give that a try. Thanks :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hi MAU, On Tue, 9 Sep 2003, at 10:58:08 [GMT +0200] (which was 18:58 where I live) you wrote: See http://news.cis.dfn.de/, they have changed names. Still will work with old name; just set it up. -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Find your aim in life, before you run out of ammunition Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hi Roel, On Mon, 08 Sep 2003, at 03:28:10 [GMT +0200] (which was 11:28 where I live) you wrote: * create a catch-all filter at the bottom of the incoming filters that deletes the message. (Make sure you've got a working filter for every group before you turn this on!) OK, I find this a bit of a puzzle. Can you explain the full filter here for me (The Original Technically Challenged One!) i.e where should this filter sort to, etc? T.I.A! -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 In plumbing, a straight flush is better than a full house Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello John, * create a catch-all filter at the bottom of the incoming filters that deletes the message. (Make sure you've got a working filter for every group before you turn this on!) OK, I find this a bit of a puzzle. Can you explain the full filter here for me (The Original Technically Challenged One!) i.e where should this filter sort to, etc? You may have seen that I replied to Roel that I basically do the same. So, I will explain my solution. Consider three newsgroups or, in general, 3 addresses: A, B and C. And three folder FolderA, FolderB and FolderC where you what to sort messages respectively. Obviously, if a message has been sent to A and B you want to sort a copy to FolderA and FoldrB. This is my set up: Filter A: IF A is in Recipient Move from Inbox to Inbox Copy to Folder A (Set in Actions tab) Continue processing with other filters (Set in Options) Filter B: IF B is in Recipient Move from Inbox to Inbox Copy to Folder B Continue processing with other filters Filter C: IF C is in Recipient Move from Inbox to Inbox Copy to Folder C Continue processing with other filters Delete ABC: If A or B or C in Recipient (use Alternatives tab) Delete the message (set in Actions tab). Hope that is what you were asking for. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello John, See http://news.cis.dfn.de/, they have changed names. Still will work with old name; just set it up. I know, and I'm still using it. But Since Thomas was going to join now... -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hi Michael, On Sun, 14 Sep 2003, at 10:35:34 [GMT +0200] (which was 18:35 where I live) you wrote: Delete ABC: If A or B or C in Recipient (use Alternatives tab) Delete the message (set in Actions tab). Is that a separate filter? -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Plato was a bore. - Friedrich Nietzsche Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello John, Delete ABC: If A or B or C in Recipient (use Alternatives tab) Delete the message (set in Actions tab). Is that a separate filter? Yes, the last one in the series. I should have written Filter ABC or Filter delete ABC :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hi Miguel, Buenos Noches, (well, it is here, anyway) On Sun, 14 Sep 2003, at 10:52:49 [GMT +0200] (which was 18:52 where I live) you wrote: Is that a separate filter? Yes, the last one in the series. I should have written Filter ABC or Filter delete ABC :) Thanks, Works a treat! -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 He who dies with the most toys... is still dead! Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hi Miguel On Sun, 14 Sep 2003, at 10:52:49 [GMT +0200] (which was 18:52 where I live) you wrote: Yes, the last one in the series. I should have written Filter ABC or Filter delete ABC :) Just need a little bit of help on sending. I use my own SMTP server from ocloudsoft.com. This is set up as local host, Port 25 on Bat! I seem to be unable to send from MYGate in Bat! to any ng, cannot connect to MyGate. What port settings do you suggest here? Sorry to trouble you! -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Hah! If only BELL knew what I was doò2þãb NO CARRIER Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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On Sun, 14 Sep 2003, at 20:11:42 [GMT +1000] (which was 20:11 where I live)I wrote: Just need a little bit of help on sending. Worked it out. Was, unknown to me, trying to cross post, which is not allowed. -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 All reports are in; life is now officially unfair. Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Sunday, September 14, 2003, Carsten Thönges wrote: You should never use fake addresses which are not under your control (like [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], ...), because *they* will receive the bounces. Isn't example.com one of those reserved for documentation-domains? -- Urban As you make your way through this hectic world of ours, set aside a few minutes each day. At the end of the year, you'll have a couple of days saved up Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello MAU, On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 10:37:06 +0200 GMT (14/09/2003, 15:37 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: I know, and I'm still using it. But Since Thomas was going to join now... I can read but not write. TB says Cannot connect to server. I re-read the Help on SMTP - NNTP, but cannot get it to work. I even use a valid email-address (one that I don't check very often). I used to use port 25, but the helpfile says I should use the same port as defined for the Gate, so I use port 110. Still no success. What am I doing wrong? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. I am loyal to my employer at all costs Please feel free to respond to my resume on my office voice mail. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hi Thomas and list, On Sunday, September 14, 2003 at 23:26:03 GMT +0700 (which was 18:26 where I live) Thomas Fernandez wrote (at least in parts) and made these valuable points on the subject of MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy: I used to use port 25, but the helpfile says I should use the same port as defined for the Gate, so I use port 110. Still no success. What am I doing wrong? There is a port number entry in the SMTP - NNTP (likewise in POP - NNTP) gate configuration. You can enter any _unused_ port on your machine. You have to enter _this_ port in The Bat!'s SMTP port. 25 will work fine as long as you don't habe another program which is listening on port 25 at localhost. Due to AV (PCCillin), Spampal, GPGRelay which handle my incoming/outgoing mails i decided to use 1700 / 1701 for MyGate. -- Regards Michael powered by The BAT! 2.00.6 with usual problems of Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Thomas, On 14-09-2003 18:26, you [T] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: T I can read but not write. TB says Cannot connect to server. I T re-read the Help on SMTP - NNTP, but cannot get it to work. Here, the SMTP service does not start automatically, although I have set it to do so. I must start it manually on every start. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 2.00.6 /thebat version os Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1/os Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Peter, Sunday, September 14, 2003, 8:06:04 PM, you wrote: PF Thomas, PF On 14-09-2003 18:26, you [T] wrote in PF mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: T I can read but not write. TB says Cannot connect to server. I T re-read the Help on SMTP - NNTP, but cannot get it to work. PF Here, the SMTP service does not start automatically, although I have set PF it to do so. I must start it manually on every start. I am finding this as well, shame the author is not on the list Sean - -- Q: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. A: Why is top posting frowned upon? Fidonet: 2:263/950 ICQ: 679813 Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website http://www.tcob1.net BBS: tcob1.thebbs.org 1800- GMT THE VIEWS EXPRESSED HERE ARE NOT NECESSARILY THOSE OF MY WIFE. Usign TheBat! 2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP2TCgxbLEgNeiU0tEQIWswCg2YW9v9dEtSh55raPhUGTCdDInQAAnjmr oDG7cLviussp3B5nSdF7+DiZ =mNyf -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello Peter, Sunday, September 14, 2003, 9:06:04 PM, you wrote: PF Here, the SMTP service does not start automatically, although I have set PF it to do so. I must start it manually on every start. Same here. -- Best regards, Jos Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Thomas, What am I doing wrong? Have you seen Michael Geyer's reply? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello John, Worked it out. Was, unknown to me, trying to cross post, which is not allowed. Not being able to crosspost is no limitation for me, I have never crossposted a message. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hi Michael, On Sun, 14 Sep 2003, at 22:38:22 [GMT +0200] (which was 06:38 where I live) you wrote: Not being able to crosspost is no limitation for me, I have never crossposted a message. Unfortunately when replying, sometimes the reply is cross posted, because the original message was cross posted. -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 A lady is one who only shows her underwear intentionally. Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Sean, On 14-09-2003 21:33, you [S] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: S I am finding this as well, shame the author is not on the list I sent him a mail (as I wrote elsewhere in the thread), but it bounces. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 2.00.6 /thebat version os Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1/os Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
John, On 14-09-2003 23:16, you [J] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: J Unfortunately when replying, sometimes the reply is cross posted, J because the original message was cross posted. Then remove the other groups which is usually something you should do anyway. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 2.00.6 /thebat version os Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1/os Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Peter, Sunday, September 14, 2003, 10:15:00 PM, you wrote: PF Sean, PF On 14-09-2003 21:33, you [S] wrote in PF mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: S I am finding this as well, shame the author is not on the list PF I sent him a mail (as I wrote elsewhere in the thread), but it bounces. I just sent him one but that has not bounced, as yet Sean - -- Q: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. A: Why is top posting frowned upon? Fidonet: 2:263/950 ICQ: 679813 Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website http://www.tcob1.net BBS: tcob1.thebbs.org 1800- GMT THE VIEWS EXPRESSED HERE ARE NOT NECESSARILY THOSE OF MY WIFE. Usign TheBat! 2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP2Tc1hbLEgNeiU0tEQKqJgCfWNMPj/Q78g5IcEVUybtOxJH8C8wAn2qm 5eHAkt+bPf/7DxpxZeaEXilQ =8PYY -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello Peter, Yes. That would work - except what I use a real address hosted at a big ISP (@adr.dk). Since the MSID (which is that thing that can be filtered on) includes this (e.g. References: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) - and other people also has a MSID containing adr.dk, I don't know what to do. I forgot to answer to this part of your message a few days ago, sorry. The way I solve this is: - Create and use a separate account for newsgroups on this server. - On the Properties General tab, include a From and Reply-To address with a fake domain that you know does not exist. This fake domain is the one that will be used to build MIDs and you can then filter on it. - Create a folder for each newsgroups you are subscribed to (I assume you already do this) and on the Properties/Identity tab include your From and Reply-To address with the adr.dk domain. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello MAU, - Create a folder for each newsgroups you are subscribed to (I assume you already do this) and on the Properties/Identity tab include your From and Reply-To address with the adr.dk domain. And select this folder before writing any message to this group so its Identity values will be used in the new message. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
MAU, On 13-09-2003 09:49, you [M] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: M I forgot to answer to this part of your message a few days ago, M sorry. No problem! :) M - Create and use a separate account for newsgroups on this server. I only have one address at adr.dk (and I use this for newsgroups): nospamatadr.dk M - On the Properties General tab, include a From and Reply-To address M with a fake domain that you know does not exist. This fake domain is the M one that will be used to build MIDs and you can then filter on it. Yes, but this would mean that people cannot send me mail as the address is fake. I'd rather not have the real address in the signature. M - Create a folder for each newsgroups you are subscribed to (I assume M you already do this) and on the Properties/Identity tab include your From and Reply-To address with the adr.dk domain. Pling!!! Sound of a penny dropping Now I _just_ realised what you mean (as you can see from what I wrote above) - by setting the fake domain at the general account level and the real domain at all the folders, I can achieve what I'm after? Thanks a bunch, I'll try that. Of cause this method does not distinguish between replies to my message and other messages in the sub-thread I am in, as my MSID is in the References section in the whole sub-thread. It will make the whole sub-thread I'm in, right? However, I have noticed that direct replies to one's messages have the MSID of the replied-to message last under references - now I only need some RegEx to hit on only messages where my MSID is the last in the string of references. ,- [ ] | References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] `- I don't suppose you have that RegEx worked out already? Thanks for your kind help. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 2.00.6 /thebat version os Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1/os Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello Peter, Pling!!! Sound of a penny dropping Now I _just_ realised what you mean (as you can see from what I wrote above) - by setting the fake domain at the general account level and the real domain at all the folders, I can achieve what I'm after? I belive so :) Of cause this method does not distinguish between replies to my message and other messages in the sub-thread I am in, as my MSID is in the References section in the whole sub-thread. It will make the whole sub-thread I'm in, right? Right. I don't suppose you have that RegEx worked out already? No, I'm no good at RegEex :-(( -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
MAU, On 13-09-2003 15:47, you [M] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: I don't suppose you have that RegEx worked out already? M No, I'm no good at RegEex :-(( Can anybody help? -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 2.00.6 /thebat version os Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1/os Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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* Peter Fjelsten [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 13-09-2003 09:49, you [M] wrote: - On the Properties General tab, include a From and Reply-To address with a fake domain that you know does not exist. This fake domain is the one that will be used to build MIDs and you can then filter on it. No, please don't do that. If you want to be part of USENET then you should follow the rules. The most simple way not to get spam is to fill in an *existing* e-mail address in the To: field which is under your control (you don't have to read those mails, create an extra gmx, hotmail, realbox, etc account for that) to prevent mail bounces. Reply-To: addresses are hardly spammed, so you should create another e-mail account for that which you read once a week or so. IMHO it is not very polite to hide your name or mail address -- but this of course is my personal opinion. If you definitely don't want to publish your e-mail address then use [EMAIL PROTECTED] You should never use fake addresses which are not under your control (like [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], ...), because *they* will receive the bounces. Yes, but this would mean that people cannot send me mail as the address is fake. Right. However, I have noticed that direct replies to one's messages have the MSID of the replied-to message last under references - now I only need some RegEx to hit on only messages where my MSID is the last in the string of references. ,- [ ] | References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] `- I don't suppose you have that RegEx worked out already? ((?:\nReferences:[^\n]*?)(?:\n\s[^\n]*?)*(@immer-international\.de\s*\n[\S\n])) Search in Kludges and replace [EMAIL PROTECTED] with your FQDN (»adr\.dk«). -- Carsten Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Carsten, On 14-09-2003 00:03, you [C] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: C * Peter Fjelsten [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 13-09-2003 09:49, you [M] wrote: - On the Properties General tab, include a From and Reply-To address with a fake domain that you know does not exist. This fake domain is the one that will be used to build MIDs and you can then filter on it. C No, please don't do that. If you want to be part of USENET then you C should follow the rules. I think it's generally accepted to use the TLD of .invalid if necessary? C IMHO it is not very polite to hide your name or mail address -- but C this of course is my personal opinion. I agree. From what I hear - and this is my personal experience, too - if you use Nospam in your mail address (like mine nospamatadr.dk), you get very little spam: most of my spam is from addresses picked up at my web sites. C You should never use fake addresses which are not under your control C (like [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], ...), because C *they* will receive the bounces. Correct. I don't suppose you have that RegEx worked out already? C ((?:\nReferences:[^\n]*?)(?:\n\s[^\n]*?)*(@immer-international\.de\s*\n[\S\n])) C Search in Kludges and replace [EMAIL PROTECTED] with your C FQDN (»adr\.dk«). Thanks, Carsten, you're a Godsend. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 2.00.6 /thebat version os Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1/os Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Saturday, September 13, 2003 7:18:40 PM (GMT -05:00) RE: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy Greetings Carsten, On Saturday, September 13, 2003, 6:03:25 PM, you wrote: Carsten IMHO it is not very polite to hide your name or mail address -- but Carsten this of course is my personal opinion. Carsten If you definitely don't want to publish your e-mail address then Carsten use [EMAIL PROTECTED] When using any address that won't resolve netetiquette dictates that you utilize an address that can't resolve (and will not attempt to resolve) such as [EMAIL PROTECTED] . This takes a great load off root servers as, by standard, .invalid is recognized as a non-routable and invalid naming convention. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Could resolve and will query root DNS servers. [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Invalid naming convention. No resolve query. Notice anything above? Try it yourself. Anyway ... - -- Regards, DG Raftery Sr. Live fast, die young, and leave a good looking corpse behind. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 9.0b1 Comment: KeyID: 0xECFE3F95 Comment: Fingerprint: 8ABE 6728 1CB9 E231 B2C8 C29D BC22 D3D1 ECFE 3F95 iQA/AwUBP2Oo+7wi09Hs/j+VEQLV/gCfScS0U5lTERkzLeLg3Jo9uDSAyoEAoLpT k1EcXchC2pn7kZSa8G+BMLgM =83G3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hi Anne, You wrote: Thanks Clive - I tried this and it still won't work for me :-( Another suggestion - I initially put 127.0.0.1 instead of localhost in TB. It wouldn't work until I changed it to localhost. Is yours set to localhost? -- Regards, Terry Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello Anne, Yes Miguel, I changed all timeouts in MyGate to 30 and it's made no difference :-( Just for a test you could try to increase the timeout to a much higher number. Other than that, I don't know what else to suggest. Are you using any kind of firewall? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Friday, September 12, 2003, 8:02:15 AM, MAU wrote: M Just for a test you could try to increase the timeout to a much higher M number. Other than that, I don't know what else to suggest. I'll try changing it to a higher figure but the error message appears almost instantaneously though.. not after a timeout. M Are you using any kind of firewall? Yes ZAPro 4. -- Cheers, Anne Flying high with The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows 98 4.10 Build Visit The Bat! Users' Unofficial Help Forum http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Friday, September 12, 2003, 6:55:45 AM, Clive wrote: CT It's not your authorisation details for the news server, is CT it? That's the only other area that could be wrong, as far as I can see. No the news server is my ISP's and to connect to it all I have to do is connect on that dialup - the dialup auth lets me use the news server then with no extra auth needed. -- Cheers, Anne Flying high with The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows 98 4.10 Build Visit The Bat! Users' Unofficial Help Forum http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Friday, September 12, 2003, 7:51:10 AM, Terry wrote: T Another suggestion - I initially put 127.0.0.1 instead of localhost in T TB. It wouldn't work until I changed it to localhost. Is yours set to T localhost? I tried it both ways Terry - it won't work with either 127.0.0.1 or localhost :-( Thanks for the suggestion though. -- Cheers, Anne Flying high with The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows 98 4.10 Build Visit The Bat! Users' Unofficial Help Forum http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello Anne, M Just for a test you could try to increase the timeout to a much higher M number. Other than that, I don't know what else to suggest. I'll try changing it to a higher figure but the error message appears almost instantaneously though.. not after a timeout. Then, forget it. M Are you using any kind of firewall? Yes ZAPro 4. That must be it then. Can you disable/exit ZA and make a try? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello Anne, I've set up the pop » nntp and the smtp » nntp tabs... am using my ISP's news server (or trying to!) on port 119 but when I tell it to get the list of newsgroups I get an error box saying (exactly as shown): TGatedWinSocketStream.ReadUntil timeout On the POP3NNTP gate, have you tried increasing the Timeout (default to 10 secs) on the NNTP Tab? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello Julien, Did anyone experienced the same problem, or is it just me ? I am doing something wrong ? Have you tried to un-subscribe from a group, delete all messages and subscribe again? (I use News.CIS.DFN.DE as newserver) Same here and haven't had any problem. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Bonjour MAU, Thursday, September 11, 2003, 9:23:20 AM, j'ai pu lire: M Hello Julien, Did anyone experienced the same problem, or is it just me ? I am doing something wrong ? M Have you tried to un-subscribe from a group, delete all messages and M subscribe again? That's what I did, and it now seems to work fine. In fact, I even found the reason of this bug: I had not subscribed to the right group. Shame on me... Thanks for your help. That's how I discovered my problem. -- / _.'\ \Julien RANC / _.'\ \ /_.-'\___\ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |\_\ `` .- \ _/| ICQ# : 36623205 | _\___. | | / \ | web : http://www.jranc.com |/\| |__| Using The Bat! 1.63 Beta/7 s/n 96299A48 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Julien, I had not subscribed to the right group. Shame on me... Don't worry, things like that happen every day. The important thing is that you found the bug :-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Clive, On 11-09-2003 08:28, you [C] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: C I had the same problem and found that I could get MyGate to work only C by setting the local port to 110 in both TB and MyGate (NNTP on 119). C Any other combinations just wouldn't work. My ports are 2000 and 2001. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 2.00.6 /thebat version os Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1/os Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Julien, Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 11:31:41 PM, Julien wrote: E No, my problem is the he downloads every thing, but is this was the E first time that you downloaded messages he downloaded the last 100 E messages of the group? Yes, the first time, I checked what it downloaded with OE, and it was the 100 last messages, but now, I only get the replies to the threads I have: no new thread, nor _everything_ like you. What is your port setting in TB! for pop3 and smtp? And what did you fill in with message management (delete from servere) /leave on server? Which NNTP are you using (and is it free so I can check?). -- Cheers, Edgar My experience is that as soon as people are old enough to know better, they don't know anything at all. - Oscar Wilde Communicating with TB! v2.00.6, Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Edgar, E Hello Allen, A Because it DID download all. First time I checked my mail, I pulled A 100 messages. Ten minutes later, it refreshed . . . now, I have about A 2500 messages per group. A M Sorry, I have no idea why this may have happened. E I've installed MyGate today. And it's receiving and sending mails to E news groups, but the thing that happend to you also happened to me. E I had the leave mail on server on. [snip] Still running in to this problem -- but it worked fine for a while. I'm not sure what the deal is. What's worse is that I'm on dialup, these days, and I really can't sit around and wait for 30 megs worth of news to download . . . -- | One of my poems chosen at random specifically for you: | http://jarday.com/The%20Lonely%20Tower/How%20the%20flower%20picking%20is%20slow.shtml | | Running The_Bat! version 2.00.6 | Windows XP Service Pack 1 build 2600 -- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Thursday, September 11, 2003, 7:28:38 AM, Clive wrote: CT I had the same problem and found that I could get MyGate to CT work only by setting the local port to 110 in both TB and CT MyGate (NNTP on 119). Any other combinations just wouldn't CT work. Thanks Clive - I tried this and it still won't work for me :-( -- Cheers, Anne Flying high with The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows 98 4.10 Build Visit The Bat! Users' Unofficial Help Forum http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello Allen, A Because it DID download all. First time I checked my mail, I pulled A 100 messages. Ten minutes later, it refreshed . . . now, I have about A 2500 messages per group. A M Sorry, I have no idea why this may have happened. A A Nothing to apologize for, unless it was you who told it to download A all that excess. I think it did that on account of my own stupidity, A though -- I'd not edit the account options to leave mail on the A server. I've now done that, and tested it on a few other groups and A all is working correctly. This is quite a nice usenet solution. I've installed MyGate today. And it's receiving and sending mails to news groups, but the thing that happend to you also happened to me. I had the leave mail on server on. It would not be so bad if it happens just ones. But I've a group where he did download 10.000 messages again and again. When I used kill doubles he told me that he found around 20.000. What am I doing wrong? I download them to the inbox and then filter them to a folder. The filtering is now set to manual since the bat stays connected until all messages are filtered (althoug all messages are already downloaded). And I can say, after 40.000 messages, it takes a while :-). -- Cheers, Edgar Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 When you want to test the depths of a stream, don't use both feet. - Chinese Proverb Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello Edgar, On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 16:02:29 +0200 GMT (10/09/2003, 21:02 +0700 GMT), Edgar wrote: It would not be so bad if it happens just ones. But I've a group where he did download 10.000 messages again and again. When I used kill doubles he told me that he found around 20.000. What am I doing wrong? I'd like to find out. The newsserver I intend to use needs a subscription, and while I have applied, I still haven't got my user/pass. So if you can recommend a newsserver that works without subscription, please let me know and I will subscribe to an NG and try MyGate out along with you. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Failed bar exam with relatively high grades. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Thomas, Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 5:55:57 PM, you wrote: TF I'd like to find out. The newsserver I intend to use needs a TF subscription, and while I have applied, I still haven't got my TF user/pass. So if you can recommend a newsserver that works without TF subscription, please let me know and I will subscribe to an NG and try TF MyGate out along with you. You may find something here: http://www.gotobiz.co.uk/g/param/Computers/Usenet/Public_News_Servers/. M - -- Best regards, Martin Webster The Bat! 2.00.6 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP19Zzlv+PP8p0/caEQL4UACg/Yzz15fm461bOO/MqonbhzEytRIAoOJw uYkmCARL7M0d9N4bn4Z2ZDg9 =AIgD -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello Martin, On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 18:05:12 +0100 GMT (11/09/2003, 00:05 +0700 GMT), Martin Webster wrote: TF So if you can recommend a newsserver that works without TF subscription, please let me know and I will subscribe to an NG TF and try MyGate out along with you. You may find something here: http://www.gotobiz.co.uk/g/param/Computers/Usenet/Public_News_Servers/. This site lists only web-based servers, as far as I could see. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Things You Would Never Know Without the Movies: When a person is knocked unconscious by a blow to the head, they will never suffer a concussion or brain damage. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello Thomas, Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 6:55:57 PM, Thomas wrote: It would not be so bad if it happens just ones. But I've a group where he did download 10.000 messages again and again. When I used kill doubles he told me that he found around 20.000. What am I doing wrong? I'd like to find out. The newsserver I intend to use needs a subscription, and while I have applied, I still haven't got my user/pass. So if you can recommend a newsserver that works without subscription, please let me know and I will subscribe to an NG and try MyGate out along with you. Here is a list with servers. I've not tried them so I hope it's not totally crap :-). http://freenews.maxbaud.net/newspage.html?date=2003-09-10 and a specialized group. news://news.superbase.com/ -- Cheers, Edgar Time is the best teacher; unfortunately, it kills all its students. Communicating with The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Thomas, Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 7:40:31 PM, you wrote: You may find something here: http://www.gotobiz.co.uk/g/param/Computers/Usenet/Public_News_Servers/. TF This site lists only web-based servers, as far as I could see. I don't think so... A small list of public NNTP servers http://theone.ru/news.html Aaron's Free News Servers http://www.newsservers.net/ - From these I found... news://news.uni-rostock.de/ news://post.newsfeeds.com/ news://freenews.netfront.net M - -- Best regards, Martin Webster The Bat! 2.00.6 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP193ulv+PP8p0/caEQIhJACg2yZDj+i8WDasRIMTj9nrKY76fUUAoPqf BH/0TiB71p2MSb55EN2rRveU =3g1I -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello all, M Hello all, M Well, just yesterday I discovered MyGate. A protocol gateway specially M developed for The Bat! (that's what the author claims) that seems to M work quite well and is much simpler to set up and use than my solution M with MailTraq, specially if you only use one news server. For more info: I've got a problem with MyGate: I set it to download 100 messages on subscription, but now, when I check for new messages, it only downloads replies to already downloaded threads. Did anyone experienced the same problem, or is it just me ? I am doing something wrong ? (I use News.CIS.DFN.DE as newserver) -- / _.'\ \Julien RANC / _.'\ \ /_.-'\___\ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |\_\ `` .- \ _/| ICQ# : 36623205 | _\___. | | / \ | web : http://www.jranc.com |/\| |__| Using The Bat! 1.63 Beta/7 s/n 96299A48 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello Julien, Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 10:51:49 PM, Julien wrote: I've got a problem with MyGate: I set it to download 100 messages on subscription, but now, when I check for new messages, it only downloads replies to already downloaded threads. No, my problem is the he downloads every thing, but is this was the first time that you downloaded messages he downloaded the last 100 messages of the group? -- Cheers, Edgar I love acting. It is so much more real than life. - Oscar Wilde Communicating with TB! v2.00.6, Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello Edgar, Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 11:13:07 PM, j'ai pu lire: E Hello Julien, E Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 10:51:49 PM, Julien wrote: I've got a problem with MyGate: I set it to download 100 messages on subscription, but now, when I check for new messages, it only downloads replies to already downloaded threads. E No, my problem is the he downloads every thing, but is this was the E first time that you downloaded messages he downloaded the last 100 E messages of the group? Yes, the first time, I checked what it downloaded with OE, and it was the 100 last messages, but now, I only get the replies to the threads I have: no new thread, nor _everything_ like you. -- / _.'\ \Julien RANC / _.'\ \ /_.-'\___\ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |\_\ `` .- \ _/| ICQ# : 36623205 | _\___. | | / \ | web : http://www.jranc.com |/\| |__| Using The Bat! 1.63 Beta/7 s/n 96299A48 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hi Julien, On Wednesday, September 10, 2003 at 9:51 PM, Julien wrote: I've got a problem with MyGate: I set it to download 100 messages on subscription, but now, when I check for new messages, it only downloads replies to already downloaded threads. Did anyone experienced the same problem, or is it just me ? I am doing something wrong ? (I use News.CIS.DFN.DE as newserver) I use the same news server and I've had no problems with MyGate. -- Regards, Terry Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 3:02:29 PM, Edgar wrote: E I've installed MyGate today. And it's receiving and sending mails to E news groups, Hmmm I installed it also to try out and I can't get it to connect to the news server at all :-( I've set up the pop » nntp and the smtp » nntp tabs... am using my ISP's news server (or trying to!) on port 119 but when I tell it to get the list of newsgroups I get an error box saying (exactly as shown): TGatedWinSocketStream.ReadUntil timeout If I try and connect from TB! to MyGate I get this message in the log: !11/09/2003, 00:40:07: FETCH - Connect failed I've checked and double checked all the settings against the instructions but can't see where the problem is... does anyone have any suggestions please...? -- Cheers, Anne Flying high with The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows 98 4.10 Build Visit The Bat! Users' Unofficial Help Forum http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello MAU, On Sun, 7 Sep 2003 10:04:41 +0200 GMT (07/09/2003, 15:04 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: http://en.barin.com.ua/soft/mygate/ OK, I'm too stupid. I have subscribed to a newsgroup, using MyGate. TB connects fine to localhost but find 0 messages in the mailbox. I thought when I hit Receive New Mails in TB, MyGate should get the messages/postings from the NG. And I do see internet activity in my DUN icon in the systray. There is no error message in the log. Number of messages is set 100 (default). Server: news.cis.dfn.de Group: de.alt.comp.the-bat I also subscribed to what looked like a high-traffic list, something starting with comp. just in case there were no postings in that NG. With the same result: no messages. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. The real question for 1988 is whether we're going to go forward to tomorrow or past to the--to the back! --V.P. Dan Quayle. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello Thomas, Server: news.cis.dfn.de That server requires a username and password, are you sure they are correct on the Authorization tab of the gate? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello MAU, On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 10:31:06 +0200 GMT (09/09/2003, 15:31 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: Server: news.cis.dfn.de That server requires a username and password, Oh! are you sure they are correct on the Authorization tab of the gate? No, I don't have any username and password for the server. Just for testing purposes, could you name a server that does not require authorisation? - If MyGate works here as expected, then I can go and find out how to get auth for the desired server, or what other servers carry the target NG. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. You know that little indestructible black box that is used on planes; why can't they make the whole plane out of the same substance ? Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello Thomas, Oh! Ah! :) No, I don't have any username and password for the server. See http://news.cis.dfn.de/, they have changed names. Just for testing purposes, could you name a server that does not require authorisation? You can find a few here: http://freenews.maxbaud.net/newspage.html?date=2003-09-09 -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello Roel, I've found a fairly easy way to do this: snipped That's basically the same I do. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Clive, M I just wonder why hasn't the author or co-authors announced MyGate on M this list. It is a really useful piece of software. CT I can't get it to work at all. It's probably me but are there any CT tricks to setting it up? I've used the defaults but I can't even CT collect a newsgroup list. Yeah, I'm still trying to figure out how to get it to work, myself . . . hmn -- let me know if you figure it out. Be well, Allen -- | One of my poems chosen at random specifically for you: | http://jarday.com/Loosely%20inspired/all%20the%20glass.shtml | | Running The_Bat! version 2.00.6 | Windows XP Service Pack 1 build 2600 -- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Allen, On 08-09-2003 15:27, you [A] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: A Yeah, I'm still trying to figure out how to get it to work, myself . A . . hmn -- let me know if you figure it out. What is your problem? I installed and ran mine in less then 5 mins! -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 2.00.6 /thebat version os Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1/os Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Hello Clive, I can't get it to work at all. It's probably me but are there any tricks to setting it up? I've used the defaults but I can't even collect a newsgroup list. The program is almost as simple as the mechanism of a spoon, have you read HELP? Be a bit more specific, defaults for what? What do you do to collect the newsgroups list? What happens then? Any error message of any kind? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy
Peter, PF Allen, PF On 08-09-2003 15:27, you [A] wrote in PF mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: A Yeah, I'm still trying to figure out how to get it to work, myself . A . . hmn -- let me know if you figure it out. PF What is your problem? I installed and ran mine in less then 5 mins! My problem was . . . I was getting some sort of error message from the gate, but didn't realize it [it didn't bring focus to itself] so TB just hung. I don't recall the error message, but it must have been a net fluke, because after acknowledging the error and trying again to check my mail, it was working flawlessly. All is well. Thanks. Be well, Allen -- | One of my poems chosen at random specifically for you: | http://jarday.com/haiku/gentle%20silhouette.shtml | | Running The_Bat! version 2.00.6 | Windows XP Service Pack 1 build 2600 -- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
