Re: Pop mail

2003-08-02 Thread Johannes Posel
Dear Thomas,

On 06:55 02.08.2003, you [Thomas Fernandez] wrote...

 Ah - I stand corrected. Actually, it is not in my list of standard
 ports, but then, my list is a few years old. Where can I get an
 updated list?

Usually, I'd say http://www.iana.org/assignments/port-numbers but
it's not included there anymore. Well, it was there. We'd better go to
STARTTLS ;-)

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Re: Pop mail

2003-08-02 Thread Mark Wieder
Thomas-

Friday, August 1, 2003, 9:55:31 PM, you wrote:

TF Ah - I stand corrected. Actually, it is not in my list of standard
TF ports, but then, my list is a few years old. Where can I get an
TF updated list?

Well, I normally use http://www.iana.org/assignments/port-numbers, but
I see it has port 465 listed cryptically as URL Rendesvous Directory
for SSM.

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Re: Pop mail

2003-08-02 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Johannes,

On Sat, 2 Aug 2003 16:01:03 +0200 GMT (02/08/2003, 21:01 +0700 GMT),
Johannes Posel wrote:

 Usually, I'd say http://www.iana.org/assignments/port-numbers but
 it's not included there anymore. Well, it was there. We'd better go to
 STARTTLS ;-)

I downloaded it anyway, thanks. :-)

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Re: Pop mail

2003-08-02 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Mark,

On Sat, 2 Aug 2003 09:47:34 -0700 GMT (02/08/2003, 23:47 +0700 GMT),
Mark Wieder wrote:

 Well, I normally use
 http://www.iana.org/assignments/port-numbers, but
 I see it has port 465 listed cryptically as URL Rendesvous Directory
 for SSM.

You are right, but I think they have a spelling mistake. Shouldn't it
be Rendezvous for S/M?
(^)
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Pop mail

2003-08-01 Thread ETM (State of Virginia)
I have been successful in downloading mail from safe-mail but
unable to send.  I am able to Pop3 download and send via
yahoo.  After contacting the techs at safe-mail they advised:

Another customer of us has difficulties sending from TheBat, but
finally he configured successfully.

You should use the following configuration:

Outgoing mail server: www.safe-mail.net
This server requires secure communication: On
Port: 465
This server requires authentication: On
User name: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Password: You safe-mail account's password.

But it isn't working.  I am hoping the person who was successful
is on the list and that he and others have some additional
suggestions that will help me get this working.

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Re: Pop mail

2003-08-01 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello ETM,

On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 03:38:04 -0400 GMT (01/08/03, 14:38 +0700 GMT),
ETM (State of Virginia) wrote:

 You should use the following configuration:

 Outgoing mail server: www.safe-mail.net
 This server requires secure communication: On
 Port: 465
 This server requires authentication: On
 User name: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Password: You safe-mail account's password.

Account / Properties / Transport

In the Send Mail box, fill in the server name as above, and change
connection from Regular to Secure on Dedicated Port in the drop-down
list. Change the Port from 4433 to 465.

Then click on Authentication. Tick [X] RFC 2554 and change the radion
button to (.) Use specific settings. In the now appearing dialog, fill
in the user name (with domain name) and password.

I am only translating what he said into TB-lingo.

Make sure your firewall allows TB to connect to port 465. It is
a non-standard port.

I am also not so sure whether they know what they are doing. When
searching the FAQ for Outgoing mail, I will be explained how to set up
Outlook or other POP *servers* (enhancement by me) for POP:
http://www.safe-mail.net/support/site/faq.html#qu_12

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Re: Pop mail

2003-08-01 Thread Johannes Posel
Dear Thomas,

On 11:26 01.08.2003, you [Thomas Fernandez] wrote...

 Make sure your firewall allows TB to connect to port 465. It is
 a non-standard port.

It is a standard port.

draenor:~# cat /etc/services | grep 465
ssmtp   465/tcp smtps   # SMTP over SSL

It's just that nowadays STARTTLS has become more widespread. Have a
copy of Outlook Express handy? When selecting to secure the
communication, it uses STARTTLS if you enter Port 25 for the SMTP
server. Any other port will make OE use SMTPS, which means that the
entire connection is SSLed, including greeting etc...

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Re: Pop mail

2003-08-01 Thread ETM (State of Virginia)
Hi Thomas,

 I am also not so sure whether they know what they are doing. When
 searching the FAQ for Outgoing mail, I will be explained how to set up
 Outlook or other POP *servers* (enhancement by me) for POP:
 http://www.safe-mail.net/support/site/faq.html#qu_12

The settings you suggest are what I do have (not working).  I am
beginning to think they are not set up for a two-way system.

The incoming mail is absolutely no problem, downloads right into
TB!  I just cannot send using that account.  Since I am already
receiving and sending yahoo using TB! it also strikes me that the
problem must be at their end, not mine.  I guess I will take one
more stab at their technical support but I am beginning to have
my doubts about this business.

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Re: Pop mail

2003-08-01 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Johannes,

On Sat, 2 Aug 2003 00:22:58 +0200 GMT (02/08/03, 05:22 +0700 GMT),
Johannes Posel wrote:

 Make sure your firewall allows TB to connect to port 465. It is
 a non-standard port.

 It is a standard port.

 draenor:~# cat /etc/services | grep 465
 ssmtp   465/tcp smtps   # SMTP over SSL

Ah - I stand corrected. Actually, it is not in my list of standard
ports, but then, my list is a few years old. Where can I get an
updated list?

 It's just that nowadays STARTTLS has become more widespread. Have a
 copy of Outlook Express handy?

No, I never installed it. The Install Wizzard opens in Chinese...

 When selecting to secure the communication, it uses STARTTLS if you
 enter Port 25 for the SMTP server. Any other port will make OE use
 SMTPS, which means that the entire connection is SSLed, including
 greeting etc...

Then the settings I suggested to Elaine should be correct.

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Re: Importing Yahoo pop mail from Netscape

2001-11-28 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hello Carl.

At 4:38 AM on Wednesday, November 28, 2001 you wrote the
following on the posted subject 'Importing Yahoo pop mail
from Netscape':

Carl We are New users of the BAT! program and are unable to
Carl import any of a Large amount of e-mail from several
Carl Yahoo mail accounts [...] Anyone have a solution to
Carl importing these into TB?

  If I understand your question, you want to retrieve your
  Yahoo! email via The Bat!

  If that's so, it has nothing to do with Netscape or IE.

  In TB! create an account, call it Y!_1 or Y!_2 or
  whatever, fill in your basic info, i.e. name, email acct,
  organization (optional).

  When you get to the dialogue that asks for smtp  pop
  info, include the following:

SMTP = whatever the name of you @HOME SMTP server is
Pop3 = pop.mail.yahoo.com

  Finish dialogues, then download your mail. It should be as
  simple as that. At least it is for me.

  HTH

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Re[2]: Importing Yahoo pop mail from Netscape

2001-11-28 Thread Gerard de Vries

Hi Jan,


JR SMTP = whatever the name of you @HOME SMTP server is

I use smtp.mail.yahoo.com and it works like a charm.


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Re: Importing Yahoo pop mail from Netscape

2001-11-28 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hello Gerard.

At 8:52 AM on Wednesday, November 28, 2001 you wrote the
following on the posted subject 'Importing Yahoo pop mail
from Netscape':

JR SMTP = whatever the name of you @HOME SMTP server is

Gerard I use smtp.mail.yahoo.com and it works like a charm.

  Yes, that works, too.

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Re: Importing Yahoo pop mail from Netscape

2001-11-28 Thread CnC

Hello Jan,Gerard,and List:

Please excuse this piecing together,but I currently receive these notes
in the Digest format..

I suppose the original title of my note was confusing or not understood.

We do have Yahoo accounts that were already setup some time ago to be
received in our Netscape communicator package as POP mail.
So there is currently a Large amount of yahoo mail that has previously
been received via Netscape as pop mail,and is Residing within Netscape.

We would like to tranfer These e-mails into TB.

As I originally wrote When the Import Wizard is used it recognizes our
regular isp (@home)
mail accounts in Netscape,but does Not seem to do the same with the
yahoo pop accounts,((within Netscape)) as they are not subsequently
listed for importing.

I hope this is more clear and that someone can help.

Thanks,
   Carl 

 




Msg: #23 in digest
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 08:18:21 -0500
From: Jan Rifkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Importing Yahoo pop mail from Netscape

Hello Carl.

At 4:38 AM on Wednesday, November 28, 2001 you wrote the
following on the posted subject 'Importing Yahoo pop mail
from Netscape':

Carl We are New users of the BAT! program and are unable to
Carl import any of a Large amount of e-mail from several
Carl Yahoo mail accounts [...] Anyone have a solution to
Carl importing these into TB?

  If I understand your question, you want to retrieve your
  Yahoo! email via The Bat!

  If that's so, it has nothing to do with Netscape or IE.

  In TB! create an account, call it Y!_1 or Y!_2 or
  whatever, fill in your basic info, i.e. name, email acct,
  organization (optional).

  When you get to the dialogue that asks for smtp  pop
  info, include the following:

SMTP = whatever the name of you @HOME SMTP server is
Pop3 = pop.mail.yahoo.com

  Finish dialogues, then download your mail. It should be as
  simple as that. At least it is for me.

  HTH

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Msg: #26 in digest
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 14:52:35 +0100
From: Gerard de Vries [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re[2]: Importing Yahoo pop mail from Netscape

Hi Jan,


JR SMTP = whatever the name of you @HOME SMTP server is

I use smtp.mail.yahoo.com and it works like a charm.


Cheers
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Re[2]: Importing Yahoo pop mail from Netscape

2001-11-28 Thread Roberto Machorro

I think our friend here has already downloaded the e-mail from his
Yahoo! accounts using Netscape Mail and wants to import the downloaded
mails to the TB


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Wednesday, November 28, 2001, 5:18:21 AM, you wrote:
JR Hello Carl.

JR At 4:38 AM on Wednesday, November 28, 2001 you wrote the
JR following on the posted subject 'Importing Yahoo pop mail
JR from Netscape':

Carl We are New users of the BAT! program and are unable to
Carl import any of a Large amount of e-mail from several
Carl Yahoo mail accounts [...] Anyone have a solution to
Carl importing these into TB?

JR   If I understand your question, you want to retrieve your
JR   Yahoo! email via The Bat!

JR   If that's so, it has nothing to do with Netscape or IE.

JR   In TB! create an account, call it Y!_1 or Y!_2 or
JR   whatever, fill in your basic info, i.e. name, email acct,
JR   organization (optional).

JR   When you get to the dialogue that asks for smtp  pop
JR   info, include the following:

JR SMTP = whatever the name of you @HOME SMTP server is
JR Pop3 = pop.mail.yahoo.com

JR   Finish dialogues, then download your mail. It should be as
JR   simple as that. At least it is for me.

JR   HTH


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