Re: The Bat FAQ, = Navigation

2002-02-25 Thread Quin Selman
Hello Paddy, Saturday, February 16, 2002, 3:18:25 PM, you wrote: Hello TBUDL, Using: Opera 6.0 Build 1010, Windows ME At: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBFAQ.html , I can't get the = navigation buttons to work. Says works best with IE, but I'm not going to do that. Also, can't

Re: The Bat FAQ, = Navigation

2002-02-25 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi TBUDL, On 26 February 2002 at 18:24:55 -0700 (which was 01:24 where I live) Quin Selman wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] As for your FAQs site eventually supporting Opera (whose users represent a minority of users), I have

Re: The Bat FAQ, = Navigation

2002-02-19 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi TBUDL, On 18 February 2002 at 10:52:54 +0100 (which was 09:52 where I live) Karin Spaink wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] My error for not seeing it. But this experience shows that this navigation and layout are anything but

Re: The Bat FAQ, = Navigation

2002-02-19 Thread Karin Spaink
On 19-02-2002 at 17:24, Marck D Pearlstone kindly wrote: There is a new revision of the FAQ up there now with the blue lines removed **plus** a completely flat HTML version in expanded outline form. It's not pretty, ... but terribly useful. (And no, I don't mind plenty of white.) Thank you!

Re[2]: The Bat FAQ, = Navigation

2002-02-19 Thread Luís Avelino Relógio
Hi, There is a new revision of the FAQ up there now with the blue lines removed **plus** a completely flat HTML version in expanded outline form. It's not pretty, but for those not using a compliant browser it saves a lot of confusion. Thank you very much. -- Luís Avelino Relógio One who

Re: The Bat FAQ, = Navigation

2002-02-18 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Mrten! On Monday, February 18, 2002 at 2:09:25 AM you wrote: those are the -very- minor details in HTML that do not really effect the rendering in most browsers. the HTML itself has many, many errors (try running http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBFAQ.html through validator.w3.org)

Re: The Bat FAQ, = Navigation

2002-02-18 Thread Karin Spaink
On 18-02-2002 at 10:31, Dierk Haasis kindly wrote: First of all, my apologies, Marck: navigation _does_ work in my browsers. The problem is that all the blue lines were terribly confusing, and I thought I was still looking at headers instead of information, _especially_ since, after you have

Re: The Bat FAQ, = Navigation

2002-02-18 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi TBUDL, On 18 February 2002 at 10:52:54 +0100 (which was 09:52 where I live) Karin Spaink wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I can't shake the feeling that blue lines are meant to be clickable, or that they are headlines. This,

Re[2]: The Bat FAQ, = Navigation

2002-02-18 Thread Luc
It was foretold that on 18-2-2002 @ 02:09:25 GMT+0100 (which was 2:09 where I live) Mrten wrote and spread these wise comments on The Bat FAQ, = Navigation: M those are the -very- minor details in HTML that do not really effect the M rendering in most browsers. the HTML itself has many, many

Re[2]: The Bat FAQ, = Navigation

2002-02-18 Thread Luc
It was foretold that on 18-2-2002 @ 10:31:07 GMT+0100 (which was 10:31 where I live) Dierk Haasis wrote and spread these wise comments on The Bat FAQ, = Navigation: DH The main point is not so much Marck's appreciated effort to write up a DH good FAQ, but the lack of a good (PDF?) documentation

Re: The Bat FAQ, = Navigation

2002-02-18 Thread Karin Spaink
On 18-02-2002 at 21:01, Luc kindly wrote: Mrten wrote i bet the validation of the entire page will be invalid: no doctype and no character encoding specified -- W3 validator will not parse a page (as far as i know and tried). You can manually enter the presumed doc type, and then the

Re[2]: The Bat FAQ, = Navigation

2002-02-18 Thread Luc
It was foretold that on 18-2-2002 @ 22:16:06 GMT+0100 (which was 22:16 where I live) Karin Spaink wrote and spread these wise comments on The Bat FAQ, = Navigation: KS You can manually enter the presumed doc type, and then the KS validator will do its work anyway. _Presumed_ indeed -- Best

Re: The Bat FAQ, = Navigation

2002-02-17 Thread Mary Cassidy
Karin Spaink wrote: I tried both Mozilla and NS4.7. Neither work, alas. It works OK with Netscape 4.79, but only if you enable cookies. It took me ages to work that out. It's still pretty slow compared with html, though. -- Mary mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --

Re[2]: The Bat FAQ, = Navigation

2002-02-17 Thread Luc
It was foretold that on 17-2-2002 @ 03:23:59 GMT+ (which was 4:23 where I live) Marck D Pearlstone wrote and spread these wise comments on The Bat FAQ, = Navigation: MDP I've investigated this one (a bit). It's not in 6.01 (although the MDP release claims to have it) but beta testers report

Re: The Bat FAQ, = Navigation

2002-02-17 Thread Ottar Grimstad
Hello Luc, Sunday, February 17, 2002, 2:39:15 PM, you wrote to TBUDL: L I have no problems what so ever with it and i'm using Opera 6.1 Opera 6.01 is the last official release. Is 6.1 beta? Stable enough to use for everyone? Where can it be found? -- Best regards, Ottar Grimstad, Norway

Re[2]: The Bat FAQ, = Navigation

2002-02-17 Thread Luc
It was foretold that on 17-2-2002 @ 14:52:46 GMT+0100 (which was 14:52 where I live) Ottar Grimstad wrote and spread these wise comments on The Bat FAQ, = Navigation: OG Opera 6.01 is the last official release. Is 6.1 beta? Stable enough to OG use for everyone? Where can it be found? sorry

Re[2]: The Bat FAQ, = Navigation

2002-02-17 Thread Luc
It was foretold that on 17-2-2002 @ 16:52:06 GMT+0100 (which was 16:52 where I live) Karin Spaink wrote and spread these wise comments on The Bat FAQ, = Navigation: KS I'm afraid that this naviagtion isn't a very good idea. KS What's the use of a FAQ that many people cannot access? I have

Re: The Bat FAQ, = Navigation

2002-02-17 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi TBUDL, On 17 February 2002 at 16:57:52 +0100 (which was 15:57 where I live) Luc wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] KS I'm afraid that this naviagtion isn't a very good idea. KS What's the use of a FAQ that many people cannot

Re[3]: The Bat FAQ, = Navigation

2002-02-17 Thread yahoo 1
Hello Luc, Sunday, February 17, 2002, 8:11:46 AM, you wrote: L It was foretold that on 17-2-2002 @ 14:52:46 GMT+0100 (which was 14:52 L where I live) Ottar Grimstad wrote and spread these wise comments on L The Bat FAQ, = Navigation: OG Opera 6.01 is the last official release. Is 6.1 beta

Re: The Bat FAQ, = Navigation

2002-02-17 Thread Karin Spaink
On 17-02-2002 at 19:28, Marck D Pearlstone kindly wrote: Luc wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [re: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBFAQ.html ] KS I'm afraid that this naviagtion isn't a very good idea. KS What's the use of a FAQ that many people cannot access? I have to

Re[2]: The Bat FAQ, = Navigation

2002-02-17 Thread Luc
It was foretold that on 17-2-2002 @ 18:28:28 GMT+ (which was 19:28 where I live) Marck D Pearlstone wrote and spread these wise comments on The Bat FAQ, = Navigation: MDP If the percentages were different, I'd be extremely concerned, but MDP they're not. Without going on an never ending

Re: The Bat FAQ, = Navigation

2002-02-17 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Sunday, February 17, 2002, 1:34:41 PM, Karin Spaink wrote: Indeed. And is that a reason to ignore the rest? As I told you: I cannot use the page in Mozilla, NS4.7 _nor_ in MSIE5.0. I have proper and fully installed browsers. You can't write for every legacy browser that used to be out

Re: The Bat FAQ, = Navigation

2002-02-17 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Sunday, February 17, 2002, 2:21:18 PM, Luc wrote: Without going on an never ending road: why are you using that method? What's wrong with just plain javascripting or plain drill down navigation? Everyone wants to be a critic, but Marck seems to be the one who puts in the time to put up

Re[2]: The Bat FAQ, = Navigation

2002-02-17 Thread Luc
It was foretold that on 17-2-2002 @ 14:32:47 GMT-0600 (which was 21:32 where I live) Dwight A Corrin wrote and spread these wise comments on The Bat FAQ, = Navigation: DAC Everyone wants to be a critic, but Marck seems to be the one who puts DAC in the time to put up the information. Keep your

Re: The Bat FAQ, = Navigation

2002-02-17 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi TBUDL, On 17 February 2002 at 20:34:41 +0100 (which was 19:34 where I live) Karin Spaink wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I have to agree with that, although my version of Opera works with it. I don't understand what the

Re: The Bat FAQ, = Navigation

2002-02-17 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi TBUDL, On 17 February 2002 at 21:21:18 +0100 (which was 20:21 where I live) Luc wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MDP If the percentages were different, I'd be extremely concerned, but MDP they're not. Without going on an never

Re: The Bat FAQ, = Navigation

2002-02-17 Thread James Senick
Karin, I sympathize with your situation as I am sure Marck does. What you may not be aware of is, if I'm not incorrect, Marck has developed the FAQ voluntarily - as in he wanted to help others without deriving any financial benefit. Don't take offense as my intent isn't to make you

Re: The Bat FAQ, = Navigation

2002-02-17 Thread Karin Spaink
On 18-02-2002 at 00:07, James Senick kindly wrote: Karin, I sympathize with your situation as I am sure Marck does. What you may not be aware of is, if I'm not incorrect, Marck has developed the FAQ voluntarily - as in he wanted to help others without deriving any financial

Re: The Bat FAQ, = Navigation

2002-02-17 Thread Karin Spaink
On 17-02-2002 at 21:30, Dwight A Corrin kindly wrote: On Sunday, February 17, 2002, 1:34:41 PM, Karin Spaink wrote: Indeed. And is that a reason to ignore the rest? As I told you: I cannot use the page in Mozilla, NS4.7 _nor_ in MSIE5.0. I have proper and fully installed browsers. You

Re: The Bat FAQ, = Navigation

2002-02-17 Thread Karin Spaink
On 17-02-2002 at 19:28, Marck D Pearlstone kindly wrote: The majority of people can read it and access it well. My lover just tried with his NS6.2, and he can't see it properly either. When he clicks = is there a compiled list of keyboard shortcuts?, he loses the original menu and gets a blank

Re: The Bat FAQ, = Navigation

2002-02-17 Thread Mrten
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Om 0:46 op maandag 18 februari 2002, Karin Spaink: On 17-02-2002 at 19:28, Marck D Pearlstone kindly wrote: The majority of people can read it and access it well. My lover just tried with his NS6.2, and he can't see it properly either. i hate

Re: The Bat FAQ, = Navigation

2002-02-17 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Sunday, February 17, 2002, 5:46:57 PM, Karin Spaink wrote: My lover just tried with his NS6.2, and he can't see it properly either. When he clicks = is there a compiled list of keyboard shortcuts?, he loses the original menu and gets a blank page. my about netscape 6 page says: Netscape

The Bat FAQ, = Navigation

2002-02-16 Thread Paddy L
Hello TBUDL, Using: Opera 6.0 Build 1010, Windows ME At: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBFAQ.html , I can't get the = navigation buttons to work. Says works best with IE, but I'm not going to do that. Also, can't find the help button at the top of the page. Anyone else have problem? Or

Re: The Bat FAQ, = Navigation

2002-02-16 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi TBUDL, On 16 February 2002 at 14:18:25 -0800 (which was 22:18 where I live) Paddy L wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using: Opera 6.0 Build 1010, Windows ME At: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBFAQ.html , I can't get

Re: The Bat FAQ, = Navigation

2002-02-16 Thread Roelof Otten
Hello Paddy, On Sat, 16 Feb 2002 14:18:25 -0800GMT (16-2-02, 23:18 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: PL Using: Opera 6.0 Build 1010, Windows ME PL At: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBFAQ.html , PL I can't get the = navigation buttons to work. That's because the faq uses DOM standard

Re: The Bat FAQ, = Navigation

2002-02-16 Thread Ottar Grimstad
Hello Paddy, Saturday, February 16, 2002, 11:18:25 PM, you wrote to TBUDL: PL I can't get the = navigation buttons to work. Says works best PL with IE, but I'm not going to do that. Also, can't find the help PL button at the top of the page. Anyone else have problem? Or is it PL just me? It

Re[2]: The Bat FAQ, = Navigation

2002-02-16 Thread Luc
It was foretold that on 17-2-2002 @ 23:23:11 GMT+ (which was 0:23 where I live) Marck D Pearlstone wrote and spread these wise comments on The Bat FAQ, = Navigation: MDP Anyone using a browser with an incomplete DOM implementation will have MDP trouble. Mozilla works well. Opera doesn't yet

Re: The Bat FAQ, = Navigation

2002-02-16 Thread Paddy L
Hello Ottar, Saturday, February 16, 2002, 4:01:20 PM, you wrote: OG But I think you in Opera have the setting Identify as OG MSIE 5,0 (F12 to access menu). Try identify as Opera. This changes the OG faq page so that there is two copies of the content. Scroll down to OG last, and you can make

Re: The Bat FAQ, = Navigation

2002-02-16 Thread Paddy L
Hello Luc, Saturday, February 16, 2002, 5:03:03 PM, you wrote: L Yep, it's supported in 6.01 I can't get The FAQ to work with 6.01, so either it doesn't fully support DOM or ...? -- Regards, Paddy mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --

Re: The Bat FAQ, = Navigation

2002-02-16 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi TBUDL, On 17 February 2002 at 19:11:22 -0800 (which was 03:11 where I live) Paddy L wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] L Yep, it's supported in 6.01 I can't get The FAQ to work with 6.01, so either it doesn't fully support DOM

Re: The Bat FAQ, = Navigation

2002-02-16 Thread Karin Spaink
On 17-02-2002 at 00:57, Roelof Otten kindly wrote: Hello Paddy, PL Using: Opera 6.0 Build 1010, Windows ME PL At: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBFAQ.html , PL I can't get the = navigation buttons to work. That's because the faq uses DOM standard JavaScript. Opera does not yet