Re: TB! with shared message folders on a network drive: has version 2 got any file locking?
Maksym- Saturday, January 17, 2004, 8:47:02 PM, you wrote: I've never had any problems with locking in a multi-user environment, but then I'm using v1.63. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! with shared message folders on a network drive: has version 2 got any file locking?
Hello Maksym, Sunday, January 18, 2004, 6:47:02 AM, you wrote: MK I'm now curious to know whether version 2.x has any sort of MK locking implemented. What kind of locking is meant exactly? Message bases cannot be damaged by accessing from different workstations because files are locked when something is being written into a message base. Do you mean some other one? -- Cheers! Stefan pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! with shared message folders on a network drive: has version 2 got any file locking?
Hello Stefan, On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 11:27:30 +0200 GMT (18/01/2004, 16:27 +0700 GMT), Stefan Tanurkov wrote: What kind of locking is meant exactly? Message bases cannot be damaged by accessing from different workstations because files are locked when something is being written into a message base. Do you lock them? I mean when TB writes to files that can be on a network server and may be access by workstations at the same time? My last programming experience with this is 10 years old and I don't experience which Novell version that was, but I had to make my application lock the file, write to it, and release it. There was no automatic locking and when two workstations accessed a file at the same time, at least one for writing, data damage was caused. Do you mean some other one? If you are saying above that TB locks a database before writing into it, then this problem doesn't exist (any more?). -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. I live in my own little world, but it's ok, they know me here. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.03 Beta/31 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB! with shared message folders on a network drive: has version 2 got any file locking?
Hello Stefan. nice to see developers continue to read the list, - same as it used to be 2 years ago :). Sunday, January 18, 2004, 11:27:30 AM, you wrote: ST What kind of locking is meant exactly? Message bases cannot be damaged ST by accessing from different workstations because files are locked when ST something is being written into a message base. Do you mean some ST other one? No, I mean exactly what you've said: locking message base files when writing to them. Sorry, I just read some messages by Thomas and others in TBUDL archives (March 2003) saying TB! does _not_ lock files at all. I'm glad that's turned out to be wrong. Thank you Stefan. -- Maksym Kozub, MK881-UANICmailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB! with shared message folders on a network drive: has version 2 got any file locking?
Hello, it is really nice to be on TBUDL again (I used to be a subscriber long ago). I'm now curious to know whether version 2.x has any sort of locking implemented. I've read some discussions on that subject by Thomas Fernandez and others back in March 2003; now I'm trying version 2.02.03CE, and you probably know better than I do whether anything has changed (or if not, then whether anything _is_ going to change) in those terms. Hope somebody would enlighten me on that. -- Maksym Kozub, MK881-UANICmailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! with shared message folders on a network drive: has version 2 got any file locking?
Hello Maksym, On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 06:47:02 +0200 GMT (18/01/2004, 11:47 +0700 GMT), Maksym Kozub wrote: it is really nice to be on TBUDL again (I used to be a subscriber long ago). I'm now curious to know whether version 2.x has any sort of locking implemented. I've read some discussions on that subject by Thomas Fernandez and others back in March 2003; now I'm trying version 2.02.03CE, and you probably know better than I do whether anything has changed (or if not, then whether anything _is_ going to change) in those terms. Hope somebody would enlighten me on that. It has not been mentioned in any changelog, that's all I know. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Nennen Sie ein anderes Gericht als das Bundesverfassungsgericht: Erbsengericht Message reply created with The Bat! 2.03 Beta/31 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade to version 2?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Susanne, On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 18:11:06 -0800 your time, you said: How about folders and filters? If you have any manually created folders in your account tree named 'Inbox' or 'Sent' _OTHER_ than the normal account tree Inbox and Sent folders you should rename them to something else as TB!v2 will convert them to account folders. If you have folder templates assigned to manually created folders named Inbox and Sent you won't be able to access their templates or get rid of them. - -- Slán, Simon @ i~n+f~o+w~i+z~a+r~d+.~c+o~.+u~k * PGP Key via Web: http://pgp.infowizard.co.uk/ PGP Key via Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Faffing about with TB! v1.62r on W2K SP4 #2246. Quarry Id Mess Owl ¶ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Protect your Privacy with PGP. Comment: KeyID: 0xDF8062C1 Comment: Fingerprint: 40DD 7908 9DF8 634F 1B98 8849 9266 C870 DF80 62C1 iQA/AwUBP+62w5JmyHDfgGLBEQII3gCg4RM0unsS1F8fn++tN3o5L5S9OywAoITN l+Z7leRBP1lbqCE0001OzFOw =LZII -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade to version 2?
Hello, S Also, while I still have the key I purchased years ago, my S password is being rejected as incorrect, even though I'm S certain I am using the correct one. You'll have to buy a new key. Tip: thanks to the RitLabs Christmas Discount, you can upgrade your current version for 14 US$. Check the link below http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/news_detail.php?ID=389 -- Regards, Raf Using The Bat! v2.02.3 CE on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Upgrade to version 2?
Hi, I'm considering an upgrade from version 1.53d to version 2.0. Can anyone tell me if I will have to completely set up TB from scratch again after the update, or if my settings will stay. Also, while I still have the key I purchased years ago, my password is being rejected as incorrect, even though I'm certain I am using the correct one. Will this cause problems during the upgrade? I tried finding more info about these questions on the ritlab website, but didn't have any luck. -- Best regards, Susanne Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade to version 2?
Hi Susanne, @27-Dec-2003, 13:39 -0800 (27-Dec 21:39 UK time) Susanne [S] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: S I'm considering an upgrade from version 1.53d to version 2.0. S Can anyone tell me if I will have to completely set up TB from S scratch again after the update, or if my settings will stay. Some settings will stay. New features or reworked features may require reconfiguration. S Also, while I still have the key I purchased years ago, my S password is being rejected as incorrect, even though I'm certain S I am using the correct one. S Will this cause problems during the upgrade? The new key will not have a password so it's not going to be relevant. -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.03 Beta/24 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade to version 2?
Hi Marck, Saturday, December 27, 2003, 2:14:39 PM, you wrote: Some settings will stay. New features or reworked features may require reconfiguration. How about folders and filters? I have quite a large number of them, and might decide to stay with the old version if I have to set up every single one of those again :} -- Best regards, Susannemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.53d OS: Windows 98 4.90 Build 3000 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade to version 2?
Hello Susanne, Saturday, December 27, 2003, 6:43:14 PM, you wrote: How about folders and filters? I have quite a large number of them, and might decide to stay with the old version if I have to set up every single one of those again :} I don't think I had to change a single thing when I upgraded (except the registration). I don't use a lot of templates and most of my filtering is pretty basic, but everything worked just fine after the upgrade. (I did rearrange all my folders and update my filters at that time, but that was just something that had needed doing for some time - it wasn't forced on me by the upgrade.) -- Best regards, Shaunamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! version 2.01 on Windows XP 5 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade to version 2?
Susanne, [S] wrote: S How about folders and filters? S I have quite a large number of them, and might decide to stay with S the old version if I have to set up every single one of those again S :} You should be OK with those, but you should backup prior to a major upgrade. Strange, inexplicable, things happen at times. :) -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Using TB! v2.03 Beta/24 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade to version 2?
Hi Susanne, @27-Dec-2003, 17:43 -0800 (28-Dec 01:43 UK time) Susanne [S] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: Some settings will stay. New features or reworked features may require reconfiguration. S How about folders and filters? S I have quite a large number of them, and might decide to stay S with the old version if I have to set up every single one of S those again :} Folders stay. Filters are unchanged. Some templates may need fiddling with - the V2 macro set includes variables and makes %COMMENT and %TO macros work differently. -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.03 Beta/24 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade to version 2?
Hi, Saturday, December 27, 2003, 5:55:27 PM,[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Susanne, Saturday, December 27, 2003, 6:43:14 PM, you wrote: How about folders and filters? I don't think I had to change a single thing when I upgraded (except the registration). Thanks, that helps my decision! and Saturday, December 27, 2003, 5:50:46 PM,[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You should be OK with those, but you should backup prior to a major upgrade. Strange, inexplicable, things happen at times. :) Believe me, I'll definitely back up TB before upgrading! :) If something goes wrong, I can always go back to the old version, if I have to... -- Best regards, Susannemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.53d OS: Windows 98 4.90 Build 3000 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade to version 2?
Hello Susanne, On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 13:39:10 -0800 GMT (28/12/2003, 04:39 +0700 GMT), Susanne wrote: Also, while I still have the key I purchased years ago, my password is being rejected as incorrect, even though I'm certain I am using the correct one. I think you'll need to buy a new key for v2 anyway, as the original key you purchased was valid for all 1.xx versions only. But you can currently buy an upgrade key for a special discount, if you advise the S/N of your TB v1.xx version. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Fettflecken werden wie neu, wenn man sie regelmaessig mit Butter beschmiert. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.02.3 CE under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade to version 2?
Hello Susanne, On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 17:43:14 -0800 GMT (28/12/2003, 08:43 +0700 GMT), Susanne wrote: Some settings will stay. New features or reworked features may require reconfiguration. How about folders and filters? IIRC my column settings disappeared and I had to redo them. Other than that, everything staid the same. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. This afternoon there will be a meeting in the south and north ends of the church. Children will be baptized at both ends. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.02.3 CE under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade to version 2?
Hello Thomas, Saturday, December 27, 2003, 9:07:33 PM, you wrote: TF [...] But you can currently buy an upgrade key for a special TF discount, if you advise the S/N of your TB v1.xx version. You don't even need your old serial number. Just buy the upgrade and when the key arrives by email it will recognise the valid v1.xx installation. Very smooth, and in my case very handy because I had lost my v1.xx password. -- Best regards, Scottmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] BayesIt! 0.4gm Using The Bat! 2.01.3 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A pgp key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Body=Please%20send%20keys Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Version 2
Friday, December 19, 2003 at 8:08 AM (Pacific Time) Hello Bat Users, Well, I held off as long as I could before upgrading to version 2. I used 1.62r a long time with no problems. Then I seen where I could upgrade for only $14.00 until Jan, 10th because of the Christmas specials. I just couldn't pass it up. I am really glad I did! The new folder maintenance centre is very well done. I backed 1.62r up first in case I had problems. Then I just installed 2.02.3 over the top of 1.62r, I wasn't sure you could do that but I had my back up so it didn't mater. To my surprise, everything works fine so far. Even my templates are working,and I thought I read something where they had to be changed for version 2. Anyway, I have always been very conservative when it comes to upgrading software. I don't do it just because but I can tell you that now is the time especially with the Christmas discounts. I am still in the early stages of using version 2 but have not, yet anyway, experienced any of the problems that I have seen others have on the list. I just wanted to say how pleased I am with version 2. Everyone have a Merry Christmas! -- Wayne Black Using TheBat 2.02.3 CE under Windows 98 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version 2
Hello Wayne, Friday, December 19, 2003, 12:34:58 PM, you wrote: Even my templates are working,and I thought I read something where they had to be changed for version 2. It's not the templates per se, it's related to the template macros. There's a bit of information in TB!'s help, in regards to some syntax changes. And, apparently some macros behavior changed. But I'm not able to comment, since the only thing that I do remember is that I didn't use any of the affected macros. -- Best regards, Daniel Rail Senior Software Developer ACCRA Group Inc. (www.accra.ca) ACCRA Med Software Inc. (www.filopto.com) Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version 2
Wayne Black wrote: WB To my surprise, everything works fine so far. That's no surprise to me. :) I've never done a major upgrade and had problems. WB Even my templates are working,and I thought I read something where WB they had to be changed for version 2. It depends on how complex your templates are. Most templates should still work. They've offered more options with the macro syntax and have changed some things with how some of the complex recursive templates work. So, if you don't use any of those, then things should be just fine for you. WB Anyway, I have always been very conservative when it comes to WB upgrading software. I don't do it just because That's a good attitude to have. :) I try to practice it. WB I just wanted to say how pleased I am with version 2. Everyone WB have a Merry Christmas! Thanks for sharing and to you and yours, do have a Merry Christmas as well. -- -=allie_M=- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com ___..__ SecureBat! Lite v2.02.8 CE · WinXP Pro SP1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Version 2 Observation
Hello Marck, Sunday, October 19, 2003, 5:30:57 PM, you wrote: BH Is TB2 really this flaky? MDP No. 1.62 was and it left your folders in that state. Now you've MDP fixed them they'll stay straight. Thanks, I must say that since repairing the folders, etc. everything now seems OK. Fingers crossed!! -- Best regards Barry Using TB version 2.01 Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Version 2 Observation
Dear TB Users OK, my curiosity got the better of me and I've upgraded to version 2! I'd stuck with 1.62 because of the apparent folder problems with 1.63 on, but I thought that would have been fixed by now. :( Two days in and TB has just lost half my folders and screwed my Inbox! It must have been good fortune, but I've managed to recover. With my Inbox I deleted the .tbi file and used the maintenance utility to recover, before deleting the .tbi file the maintenance utility failed to recover my Inbox every time I tried. I recovered the lost folders by recreating with the same name and ignoring TB's complaints that the folder already existed. Is TB2 really this flaky? Should I go back to 1.62? Can I go back to 1.62? Have I wasted my money? :(( -- Best regards Barry Using TB version 2.01 Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version 2 Observation
Hi Barry, On Sunday at 9:26 AM you wrote: BH Is TB2 really this flaky? BH Should I go back to 1.62? BH Can I go back to 1.62? BH Have I wasted my money? :(( I have never in my 2 years have had a single problem with TB. I dont think youve wasted your money at all. Maybe you can do a complete clean install of TB (registry and everything) and try installing it again. - Darrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat 2.01 C:\BELFRY is where I keep my .BAT files. Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version 2 Observation
Hi Barry, @18-Oct-2003, 17:26 Barry Higginbottom [BH] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to The: BH Is TB2 really this flaky? No. 1.62 was and it left your folders in that state. Now you've fixed them they'll stay straight. BH Should I go back to 1.62? Why? You want your folders messed up again? BH Can I go back to 1.62? There's no need. BH Have I wasted my money? :(( Not IMHO. -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.01 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version 2 Observation
Hello Barry, On 18 October 2003, at 17:26:19 (GMT +0100) you wrote: BH Have I wasted my money? :(( 99,9% *NO*. The developers say that users have 30 experiences days for trying and using of program and then they (users) buy this program they clearly conceives what they buying. -- Best regards, Vasiliymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Version 2
How do I switch the view so the HTML is tabbed behind the plain text version of an email? I did that with the lower version and cannot find the option with the new version. Elaine Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version 2
How do I switch the view so the HTML is tabbed behind the plain text version of an email? I did that with the lower version and cannot find the option with the new version. I found it fast after this popped into my mailbox. HTML orange and black color codes removed Massive Men Hammer Tiny Women Free! Click here! recieve no more And the idiots can't even properly spell receive in the supposed link for removal ha!. I do SO detest HTML surprising me (and I'm a great-grandmother who has been surprised a LOT in her life). WHY has such a default been set into the program? I have been using K9 for spam control. Is the new version of TB going to give me the same spam/junk control? Do I need to train the TB control as I have trained K9? Which list/forum is the best place to ask questions about this new upgrade? How many have moved on and how many have sat back to see what idiots like me find out the hard way? big grin Elaine A good deed never goes unpunished. --Gore Vidal Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version 2
Etm, [E] wrote: E I have been using K9 for spam control. Is the new version of TB E going to give me the same spam/junk control? You can continue using K9 with v2. E Do I need to train the TB control as I have trained K9? The antispam controls you see in v2 require a plug-in. One is currently available and it's called Bayesit. http://klirik.narod.ru/usefuls/bayesiteng.htm You'll need to train it as you've done with K9. E Which list/forum is the best place to ask questions about this new E upgrade? TBUDL. E How many have moved on and how many have sat back to see what idiots E like me find out the hard way? big grin I've moved on and am enjoying this version. There are many others. I among many others don't yet consider ourselves idiots for having upgraded. -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html _ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version 2
I've moved on and am enjoying this version. There are many others. I among many others don't yet consider ourselves idiots for having upgraded. Thanks, Allie. I'll continue to reserve judgment about my own intelligence in upgrading. Self-taught approaching-70 computer users should probably keep company with Gates who seems to have inspired the whole world to think in terms of XP-blues/hues. If I didn't so loathe HTML in email MS probably would have me. Best, Elaine Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Version 2
Hi, ETM (State of Virginia) wrote: Thanks, Allie. I'll continue to reserve judgment about my own intelligence in upgrading. Self-taught approaching-70 computer users should probably keep company with Gates who seems to have inspired the whole world to think in terms of XP-blues/hues. If I didn't so loathe HTML in email MS probably would have me. --SOT-- I understand what you mean and I think your message showed good humour and self-mockery - and: I think it's just great when people try to cope with the challenges new software gives them, regardless of age/gender etc. :-)) Even though it has to be said that there aren't many 70-year-olds who would do that, let alone those who would even sit in front of a computer with a happy face. :-) Antje Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- | Antje Lehmann | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version 2
The antispam controls you see in v2 require a plug-in. One is currently available and it's called Bayesit. I know of TWO Bat installations that, once Bayesit was installed, caused TB to no longer start! (The fix was to rename/remove the c:\bayesit directory/folder.) I gather from many other messages I've seen that this plugin must be working for quite a number of users though. PS the subject of this thread has now become something other than the originally intended question about v2 features. At what point does one change the subject? Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version 2
Rich Gregory, [RG] wrote: RG PS the subject of this thread has now become something other than RG the originally intended question about v2 features. At what point RG does one change the subject? Whenever you think it appropriate. I read all messages so I at times, inadvertently ignore the subject. So if we continue to discuss the antispam plugin support then we'd need to change the subject. -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html _ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Receiving Registration Code for Version 2
Hi all, Good to be back on the list. :) I upgraded to version 2 of The Bat today. I was wondering, on average, how long did it take for you to receive your new registration code? When I first ordered The Bat (version 1.x), the registration code didn't arrive until about four hours after I registered, however, in looking at the new Bat forums today, I noticed that someone mentioned that they received their registration code about three minutes after registering. I did receive a receipt right after registration, but this isn't the same as the mail with the registration code. So, how long did it take you all to get your new upgrade code after registration? Thanks! -- Best regards, Kim Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Receiving Registration Code for Version 2
Hi all, Talk about timing... Within 15 minutes of posting my question, I received my new registration code. Wooohooo! :) -- Best regards, Kim Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Receiving Registration Code for Version 2
Hi Kim, Sunday, September 7, 2003, 7:27:28 PM, you asked: K ... how long did it take you all to get your new upgrade code after K registration? I placed my order today at 9:27 AM and my registration code message was created at 10:25 AM local time -- less than 1 hour. -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows ME 4.90 Build 3000 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TLS, Bayesit, NOD32 and TB version 2
Hello Terry, Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 9:26:51 AM, you wrote: T If I upgrade to version 2 and utilize the Bayesian plug-in, will I T also be able to use TLS? Absolutely. :-) T And, am I correct in assuming that until Eset comes up with a NOD32 T version 2 plug-in for TB version 2, IMON won't work with TLS? AFAIK, the old plug-in for NOD32 should work. I do not know any anti-virus software which is able to monitor a secured connection, this is one of the points of providing plug-in interface in The Bat! -- Cheers! Stefan pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TLS, Bayesit, NOD32 and TB version 2
On Friday, September 05, 2003 at 7:16 AM, Stefan wrote: AFAIK, the old plug-in for NOD32 should work. I do not know any anti-virus software which is able to monitor a secured connection, this is one of the points of providing plug-in interface in The Bat! Thanks, Stefan, for the answers. I tried it the old plug-in and had trouble with it, so I discontinued my use of it. I did write to NOD32 and ask if they'd be doing a new plug-in, but never heard back from them. -- Regards, Terry Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Version 2 Download Mirrors
Hello Allen, Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 7:31:42 AM, you wrote: May be something wrong, indeed -- as I have yet to receive my upgraded key some 15 hours after registering. How long did it take for you guys? I ordered it at 8:28 AM. The key was processed at 9:47 PM. Then I got to wait through ISP mail server delays. :) -- Best regards, Lourdes Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: so is version 2 here yet .... :-)
Hello Deborah, I was expecting the html editor to be useful, because I do occasionally want to send html mail, but tbh I'm disappointed with it. Have you tried Foxmail (it's free) to compose/send your HTML e-mail? On the bright side, the installation, as you say, was a dream - fast simple. That's great news, because I install TB several times a day ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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It seems that MAU said ... M Have you tried Foxmail (it's free) to compose/send your HTML e-mail? Uh-oh. I have the occasional need to send HTML-coded mail, so I did a search for Foxmail. Found it on C|Net, along with some reviews like this: This program will steal your passwords and people will be able to see all your personal information. I contacted the government to investigate this company I would stay clear of this by all means. and this BEWARE!!! Secretly sends your password to malicious hackers! This program is not what it seems. My technical software analysis team has debugged the program and found it to be full of holes and security breaches. It doesn't just install spyware on your system. It also sends your password to most likely malicious hackers. Then a few months when you least suspect, your email account is taken over and un-usable. This program also appears to send your email to multiple advertising companies, hence making you put up with more and more ads in your inbox each day. There have been a number of programs that are silimar to this one, it's only a matter of time before they can be stopped! There were a few positive responses, but many were negative and warned of security problems. Enough to scare me away! -- Bill Blinn Technology Editor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - 9/3/2003 at 7:25 AM Technology Editor, Newsradio 610 WTVN, Columbus, Ohio Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Random thought: Cats must need to use ALL the kitty litter to bury their poop. Featured speaker at PowerPoint Live - Tucson, Arizona October 12-15, 2003 - http://www.pptlive.com/ Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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On Wednesday, September 3, 2003, 3:29:48 AM, MAU wrote: I was expecting the html editor to be useful, because I do occasionally want to send html mail, but tbh I'm disappointed with it. M Have you tried Foxmail (it's free) to compose/send your HTML e-mail? Yes, that's what I've been using. It's slow (or at least, it's slow when you're used to TB) but it does a good job on html mail. I was hoping that with TB v2 I could dump Foxmail, but that's certainly not the case yet. -- Deborah Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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On Wednesday, September 3, 2003, 7:27:47 AM, Bill Blinn Technology Editor wrote: BBTE This program will steal your passwords and people will be able to BBTE see all your personal information. I contacted the government to BBTE investigate this company I would stay clear of this by all means. Hm...what government? It's a Chinese company iirc...I don't think the Chinese gov't is terribly concerned about personal privacy ;-) BBTE and this BBTE BEWARE!!! Secretly sends your password to malicious hackers! BBTE This program is not what it seems. My technical software analysis BBTE team has debugged the program and found it to be full of holes and BBTE security breaches. It doesn't just install spyware on your system. BBTE It also sends your password to most likely malicious hackers. Then BBTE a few months when you least suspect, your email account is taken BBTE over and un-usable. This program also appears to send your email BBTE to multiple advertising companies, hence making you put up with BBTE more and more ads in your inbox each day. There have been a number BBTE of programs that are silimar to this one, it's only a matter of BBTE time before they can be stopped! Interesting. I've been using Foxmail for a couple of years now. I've not had any problems with security, nobody has hacked my account, none of my email accounts has been taken over, I only get spam on the accounts that already got spam before I used Foxmail, I don't get any more spam on those accounts than I already did. BBTE There were a few positive responses, but many were negative and BBTE warned of security problems. Enough to scare me away! H...I just had a look at the negative reviews. There were several which said the same thing, word-for-word, but used different names, which makes me think someone's got an axe to grind G. Then there's the person who says it wouldn't work with Tiny Firewall (it does for me) so he/she had to disable the firewall to send/receive mail (bit of a silly thing to do really...). Then there's the one that says you can't see received html...yes, you can, you just click the html symbol at the top right of the preview pane. Or the one who says he prefers Incredimail. Or the one who complains that when he clicks on an email address on a webpage, it starts Foxmail when he wants to use something else... My personal favourite, though, is the one which says: Plain fact is there is nothing to equal OE. If only my OE would work ROFL! -- Deborah Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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It seems that Deborah W said ... D On Wednesday, September 3, 2003, 7:27:47 AM, Bill Blinn Technology Editor wrote: BBTE This program will steal your passwords and people will be able to BBTE see all your personal information. I contacted the government to BBTE investigate this company I would stay clear of this by all means. Just to clear things up, I did not write that. I quoted comments from C|Net. I have no opinion one way or the other on the application. -- Bill Blinn Technology Editor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - 9/3/2003 at 9:43 AM Technology Editor, Newsradio 610 WTVN, Columbus, Ohio Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Random thought: I'm against any law that I wouldn't break if I could get away with it. -A. Whitney Brown. Featured speaker at PowerPoint Live - Tucson, Arizona October 12-15, 2003 - http://www.pptlive.com/ Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Bill, Uh-oh. I have the occasional need to send HTML-coded mail, so I did a search for Foxmail. Found it on C|Net, along with some reviews like this: snipped a bit If Foxmail sold for US$ 100 reviews would say it was too expensive for what it does. As it is FREE... you know what I mean :) There were a few positive responses, but many were negative and warned of security problems. Enough to scare me away! I assume you don't use any Microsoft products then, right? ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Deborah, Yes, that's what I've been using. I always thought you were smart :-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Bill, BBTE It seems that MAU said ... M Have you tried Foxmail (it's free) to compose/send your HTML e-mail? BBTE Uh-oh. I have the occasional need to send HTML-coded mail, so I did a BBTE search for Foxmail. Found it on C|Net, along with some reviews like BBTE this: BBTE This program will steal your passwords and people will be able to see BBTE all your personal information. I contacted the government to BBTE investigate this company I would stay clear of this by all means. BBTE [snip] Hmn . . . mywebattack's users seem to have a different opinion. http://www.webattack.com/get/foxmail.shtml I'm not a big fan of C|Net, these days, though . . . so I'm always looking for a second opinion . . . I can't speak from personal experience, regarding foxmail. Not recent experience, anyway, I haven't touched it since . . . 98 or 99 or so. And I don't remember having it installed for more than a day. Be well, Allen -- | One of my poems chosen at random specifically for you: | http://jarday.com/recent%20sketches/the%20source.shtml | | Running The_Bat! version 2.00 | Windows XP Service Pack 1 build 2600 -- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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It seems that Allen said ... A Hmn . . . mywebattack's users seem to have a different opinion. A http://www.webattack.com/get/foxmail.shtml A I'm not a big fan of C|Net, these days, though . . . so I'm always A looking for a second opinion . . . Second opinions are often helpful. I'll download it and take a look. The problem with C|Net, I suppose, is that opinions by techno-turnips tend to be given the same weight as those from people who actually know what they're talking about. -- Bill Blinn Technology Editor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - 9/3/2003 at 11:06 AM Technology Editor, Newsradio 610 WTVN, Columbus, Ohio Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Random thought: Thousands of years ago, cats were worshipped as gods. Cats have never forgotten this.' Anonymous. Featured speaker at PowerPoint Live - Tucson, Arizona October 12-15, 2003 - http://www.pptlive.com/ Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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On Wednesday, September 3, 2003, 9:45:05 AM, Bill Blinn Technology Editor wrote: BBTE Just to clear things up, I did not write that. I quoted comments BBTE from C|Net. I have no opinion one way or the other on the BBTE application. Oh, I know you were quoting the cnet comments...I just found some of them very amusing (still lol over the plain fact is there is nothing to equal OE one - no, I suppose not, if your aim is get viruses G) -- Deborah Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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On Wednesday, September 03, 2003, Bill Blinn Technology Editor wrote... [..] techno-turnips [..] hahaha... I love that term. Very nice ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) My mind is not for rent / To any god or government pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Deborah, On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 09:36:15 -0400 GMT (03/09/2003, 20:36 +0700 GMT), Deborah W wrote: My personal favourite, though, is the one which says: Plain fact is there is nothing to equal OE. If only my OE would work LOL! I love this. ducking from incoming trout -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Sign in a shop: Open 24 hours a day, longer on weekends. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Allister Jenks, [AJ] wrote: AJ Excellent! However, some questions. AJ 1) Is it ready for prime time? ie. stable? For prerelease software, this is unpredictable. Some of us may have problems while others don't. In fact, this remains the case even after release though the problems should be much less. Try it at your own risk. I'd be irresponsible for saying otherwise. Let's just say that I've personally been using all the betas and haven't lost any mail. I haven't had any showstopping experiences either. Many others will surely confess a similar experience. It's up to you to take the plunge. :) Note that I've been using only POP3 accounts and haven't been using the new IMAP support. If you're looking for problem free usage, then I'd definitely wait for the full release version before trying IMAP. AJ 3) Is the upgrade straightforward? For POP accounts, yes. If you're using IMAP accounts, you'll have to first convert them to POP before upgrading. You'll then have to create new IMAP accounts and then transfer your mail over to the new IMAP accounts. -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html _ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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On Monday, September 01, 2003, Deborah W wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: DW If I download install v2 decide to go back to 1.62r, can I? Or DW will I need to re-install 1.62 from scratch? Deborah, The file structure is different, and you would not be able to use the 1.62 program with files that were adapted by the 2.0 program. My recollection is that there were some messages on the Beta mailing list about what to do if you want to revert back, but I do not recall any details. You could search the Beta list archives, or wait for Marck or another expert to offer up more detailed help. -- JN Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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A Bat-fellow, Allister Jenks, wrote on Tuesday, 2nd September 2003 at 10:10:43 (GMT +1200), which was 0:10 a.m. in Bratislava -- AJ 1) Is it ready for prime time? ie. stable? I have had no time to participate in Beta cycles after 1.61. However, when version 2.0 Final came out earlier this evening, the temptation was too much, so after backing up all of my 10 accounts with 63000+ messages through the Maintenance Center, I went ahead and upgraded. AJ 2) If I install it, is my wife going to have trouble using it, after AJ being used to 1.xx, and not being technically minded? No trouble at all. Version 2 looks much the same as 1.61 did, despite the new default set of icons. I do like the new set of icons, incidentally, unlike many users on the Bat lists. (The icons may strike you as too gray after you got used to all the yellows in version 1.xx. Yellow is gone in Version 2.) AJ 3) Is the upgrade straightforward? That's the word for it. Everything* has been restored perfectly and everything is in its place. The upgrade took me about 30 seconds (excluding the speedy download of Version 2 from http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/beta/the_bat.exe ). * an exception: something that has not worked for me recently, even when restoring accounts from a CD backup, is the restoration of Address Book Groups -- only the Main Personal Address Book gets restored here from a CD backup or after upgrading to Version 2, with all email addresses from former Groups indiscriminately dumped in it. So in order not to lose your Groups, simply copy the *.ABD and *.INI files from your The Bat!\MAIL\ folder to a temporary folder prior to upgrading. Then, when in Version 2.0, should you find that your Groups are gone, in the Address Book go to: File -- Load Address Book Set..., and find your Addrbook.INI file previously copied from your 1.xx TB! version. That will restore the former status quo. As I said, this is not a Version 2 issue, as I had to do the same thing with v1.61 when I reformatted my hard-drive a few weeks ago. Incidentally, the restoration of all mail data, including numerous user-specific settings, via the Maintenance Centre from a single *.tbk file of about 120 MB size, worked like a charm. Deborah W asks: DW What are the highlights of v2? After reading all the sceptical opinions about v2 betas on the TBBETA list, I doubted whether it would be necessary for me to upgrade. The big improvement in v2 is supposed to be full working IMAP, which I don't use. However, the few hours that I've been using version 2 have convinced me that v2 is worth paying the price for upgrade. There are lots of cosmetic improvements and bug-fixes in version 2 compared to 1.61 that I wouldn't want to live without any longer. Such as, oattachments to messages can be displayed at the bottom of the preview pane, as small icons (rather than on the left as huge icons) ofinally, if you have more than one message open for editing, your customized keyboard shortcuts work in all open editor windows instead of in only the one that was opened first othe content of attached *.txt, *.att, and most importantly, *.msg files gets displayed directly in the preview pane after you press CTRL+TAB, so you no longer need to open separate windows to view the content of those attachments. onew centralized Preferences dialog, with new options thrown in onew Folder Maintenance center oenhanced Search, it seems (though I can't seem to be able to find the 1.xx option to search in All Accounts or only in Current Account) onew Scheduler -- haven't tested it yet oif you decide to view Kludges in v2's Preview Window, Word-Wrap is finally applied to them (as in TB! 1.5x, later lost in 1.6x, now restored) oin v2 you can use Message Header Fields data directly in your reply templates via new (and customizable) Message Header macros ogenerally speaking, version 2 feels very stable, is super-fast and so, a joy to work with. Concerning Message Header fields data, could anyone help with the following: Is it possible to get to the message header pane via the keyboard only, without clicking with the mouse? It is often useful to copy data from the message header, but having to use the mouse for accessing the message header pane above the preview pane is time-consuming. Thank you. -- Yours, Alex. of Slovakia www.avenarius.sk [flying with The Bat! 2.00 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A amd k6-2 500 mhz processor with 128 mb ram] Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Avenarius, oenhanced Search, it seems (though I can't seem to be able to find the 1.xx option to search in All Accounts or only in Current Account) Right mouse click 'Select all' or 'Cntl+A'. -- Best regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Joseph, The file structure is different, and you would not be able to use the 1.62 program with files that were adapted by the 2.0 program. Not totally correct for Pop accounts. The folder structure has changed. I have specifically asked this question to Stefan in the past with regard to 1.62 vs 1.63. V2 is basically 1.63 with fixes and some new updates. IIRC the only problem is with the folder structure getting out of sync, otherwise you can run 1.62 1.63 on the same mail base which I believe should apply to v2. If you add a new folder in one version, then you will have to do manually in the other version. Again the above only applies to Pop accounts. Don't ask me about IMAP because I don't really use IMAP accounts. -- Best regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Avenarius, On Tue, 02 Sep 2003 02:33:44 +0200 GMT (02/09/2003, 07:33 +0700 GMT), Avenarius wrote: However, the few hours that I've been using version 2 have convinced me that v2 is worth paying the price for upgrade. There are lots of cosmetic improvements and bug-fixes in version 2 compared to 1.61 that I wouldn't want to live without any longer. Such as, [snipped] This was the best summary so far. I have parked your message, as the question why pay for upgrade is sure to be asked again and again over the coming weeks. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. CIRCUMVENT: Opening in the front of boxer shorts Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Avenarius, Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 2:33:44 AM, you wrote: A However, the few hours that I've been using version 2 have convinced A me that v2 is worth paying the price for upgrade. There are lots of A cosmetic improvements and bug-fixes in version 2 compared to 1.61 that A I wouldn't want to live without any longer. Such as, Can you (or someone else) confirm that Bayesian filtering made it into the final 2.0 version? I tried to look for this info on the ritlabs site but I could not find any reference. Frank -- Best regards, FJ de Bruin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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On Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 10:04:14 AM, FJ de Bruin wrote: FdB Can you (or someone else) confirm that Bayesian filtering made it into FdB the final 2.0 version? FdB I tried to look for this info on the ritlabs site but I could not find FdB any reference. Ritlabs gives a link to this information from the Russian version of TheBat! page. I think it is just the matter of time until the Enlish information appears there as well. -- -=Robert Beata Golovniov | Lviv, Ukraine=- ~~ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Body=Embedded%20key mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Body=Attached%20key ~~ Raise your eyes high up and see. Who has created these things? (Isaiah 40:26) Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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On Tuesday, 2 September 2003, at 7:04:14 p.m., FJ de Bruin wrote: Can you (or someone else) confirm that Bayesian filtering made it into the final 2.0 version? Having just taken the plunge and upgraded, I can give you the following text from the help topic About Spam... The Bat! offers an interface for installing self learning anti-spam plug-ins. How to install and use them in The Bat you can learn in the Using Anti-spam plug-ins topic. ...and under the Using Anti-spam plug-ins topic... The Bat! offers an interface for installing anti-spam plug-ins. Each message you receive has score from 0 to 100 if it spam or not, and if points are above minimum that you set in preferences it is moved a Junk Mails Folder. To determine a message as Junk or not in The Bat! you can use Mark As Junk and Mar as NOT Junk oprions from Specials sub-menu. In order to use Anti spam support firstly you have to install anti-spam plug-in with self learning facilities. To install a plug-in, open Preferences dialog from the Options | Preferences menu and in the preferences tree click at Anti-spam leaf. ...and so it goes on. -- Regards, Allister. Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Allister Jenks wrote: Having just taken the plunge and upgraded, I can give you the following text from the help topic About Spam... Does this mean the Help file has been revised? This is a badly needed improvement. Is it any good? -- Paul Richardson Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hi FJ, Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 9:29:05 PM, you wrote: FdB Thanks for this information, guess I will have to be patient for the FdB ritlabs site to come back online. It is up and operational, I have just been there and downloaded v.2. Regards Robyn This e-mail message and accompanying data may contain information that is confidential and subject to privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message or data is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify us immediately and delete all material pertaining to this e-mail. Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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It seems that FJ de Bruin said ... F Thanks for this information, guess I will have to be patient for the F ritlabs site to come back online. It's back now. I gave the site my credit card information last night and this morning I'm fully registered. The 30-day-trial counter re-set itself to 30 days on 9/1 -- at least on my computer -- so I could have waited a bit. -- Bill Blinn Technology Editor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - 9/2/2003 at 7:40 AM Technology Editor, Newsradio 610 WTVN, Columbus, Ohio Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Featured speaker at PowerPoint Live - Tucson, Arizona October 12-15, 2003 - http://www.pptlive.com/ Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Version 2 Download Mirrors
Hi, I've registered and upgrade to v2 (although it looks like I've been sent an Educational license) but can't download it. The following link from the Ritlabs website isn't working: http://download2.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/the_bat.exe I've also tried downloading it from www.thebat.co.uk and ftp.ritlabs.com with no joy. Anybody know of any alternatives? Thanks a lot. Cheers, Alan. Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Alan Jarvis, Alan Jarvis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 at 11:30:39 AM AJ Hi, AJ I've registered and upgrade to v2 (although it looks like I've been AJ sent an Educational license) but can't download it. The following AJ link from the Ritlabs website isn't working: AJ http://download2.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/the_bat.exe AJ I've also tried downloading it from www.thebat.co.uk and AJ ftp.ritlabs.com with no joy. Anybody know of any alternatives? AJ Thanks a lot. AJ Cheers, Alan. AJ AJ Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: AJ http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html I have downloaded my copy of version 2 from : http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download.php Maybe there you will have more luck best regards, Rene -- Best regards, Cyber Touristmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tuesday, September 2, 2003 - 1:59:21 PM === Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hi, AJ I've registered and upgrade to v2 (although it looks like I've been AJ sent an Educational license) but can't download it. Funny, me too. Maybe there is something wrong with their automatic key generation. AJ The following link from the Ritlabs website isn't working: AJ http://download2.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/the_bat.exe AJ I've also tried downloading it from www.thebat.co.uk and AJ ftp.ritlabs.com with no joy. Anybody know of any alternatives? I may be able to send it to you if you like :-) -- Cheers Christian The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5 .1 2600 Service Pack 1 Reading taglines makes you stupid. Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hi Allister, Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 5:49:23 PM, you wrote: AJ In order to use Anti spam support firstly you have to install AJ anti-spam plug-in with self learning facilities. To install a plug-in, AJ open Preferences dialog from the Options | Preferences menu and in the AJ preferences tree click at Anti-spam leaf. I have looked under Option | Preferences and clicked on Anti-spam but when I click Add there doesn't appear to be any Plug-In file available. Am I suppose to download an Anti-spam plug-in or does this refer to Third Party plug-ins? I have probably overlooked something VERY obvious and therefore I apologise in advance. Regards Robyn Winter Melbourne Australia This e-mail message and accompanying data may contain information that is confidential and subject to privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message or data is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify us immediately and delete all material pertaining to this e-mail. Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version 2 Download Mirrors
Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 1:01:27 PM, you wrote: AJ I've registered and upgrade to v2 (although it looks like I've been AJ sent an Educational license) but can't download it. Funny, me too. Maybe there is something wrong with their automatic key generation. I'll give it a few days to let the dust settle and send them an email. AJ I've also tried downloading it from www.thebat.co.uk and AJ ftp.ritlabs.com with no joy. Anybody know of any alternatives? I may be able to send it to you if you like :-) Thanks all but I got it in the end from a beta link posted in an earlier thread. Very nice it is too from first impressions, seems much quicker to me. Just need to get my head around Bayesit now! Thanks again. Cheers, Alan. Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Version 2 Download Mirrors
Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 8:01:27 AM, you wrote: CR Hi, AJ I've registered and upgrade to v2 (although it looks like I've been AJ sent an Educational license) but can't download it. CR Funny, me too. Maybe there is something wrong with their automatic key CR generation. May be something wrong, indeed -- as I have yet to receive my upgraded key some 15 hours after registering. How long did it take for you guys? Allen Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version 2 Download Mirrors
Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 1:31:42 PM, you wrote: AJ I've registered and upgrade to v2 (although it looks like I've been AJ sent an Educational license) but can't download it. CR Funny, me too. Maybe there is something wrong with their automatic key CR generation. May be something wrong, indeed -- as I have yet to receive my upgraded key some 15 hours after registering. How long did it take for you guys? About 1.5 hours for me. I registered this morning and was surprised it came through so quickly. Cheers, Alan. Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: so is version 2 here yet .... :-)
Hello FJ, Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 2:04:14 AM, you wrote: FdB Can you (or someone else) confirm that Bayesian filtering made it into FdB the final 2.0 version? FdB I tried to look for this info on the ritlabs site but I could not find FdB any reference. Work continues on the Bayesian plug in. It is not included, though. You do have to go out and get it separately. Also the docs have not been improved yet. -- Best regards, MikeDmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows ME 4.90 Build 3000 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Version 2 Download Mirrors
AJ Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 1:31:42 PM, you wrote: AJ I've registered and upgrade to v2 (although it looks like I've been AJ sent an Educational license) but can't download it. CR Funny, me too. Maybe there is something wrong with their automatic key CR generation. May be something wrong, indeed -- as I have yet to receive my upgraded key some 15 hours after registering. How long did it take for you guys? AJ About 1.5 hours for me. I registered this morning and was surprised AJ it came through so quickly. AJ Cheers, Alan. OK, well then . . . I'm just really not sure what to think about all this. I feel . . . botched. :-) -- | One of my poems chosen at random specifically for you: | http://jarday.com/harvest/darkness%20looms.shtml | | Running The_Bat! version 2.00 | Windows XP Service Pack 1 build 2600 -- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version 2 Download Mirrors
Hello all, Tuesday, September 2, 2003, Alan Jarvis wrote: Hi, I've registered and upgrade to v2 (although it looks like I've been sent an Educational license) but can't download it. The following link from the Ritlabs website isn't working: http://download2.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/the_bat.exe I've also tried downloading it from www.thebat.co.uk and ftp.ritlabs.com with no joy. Anybody know of any alternatives? yes, here they are: ftp://ftp.gin.cz/pub/mswindows/the_bat/the_bat_200.exe http://www.thebat.cz/stazeni/the_bat_200.exe -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 2.00 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 AMD ThunderBird 1,2 GHz, 512 MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: so is version 2 here yet .... :-)
== Reply to your email of Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 10:37:33 PM == FdB Can you (or someone else) confirm that Bayesian filtering made it into FdB the final 2.0 version? Work continues on the Bayesian plug in. It is not included, though. You do have to go out and get it separately. Also the docs have not been improved yet. Hello MikeD, I use a beautiful little peice of software (for Bayesian Spam filtering) that works well with TB (or any mail client) its called K9. You can get it from www.keir.net/k9.html oh yeah... its free :-) The Sept-2003 Australian PCUser magazine compared 9 anti-spam software products. Of the ones that were not list-based, it scored mid-field with false-negatives at 17% (range was 15% - 20%) and it scored best of all on false-positives at 0.1% (range was 0.1% to 4.7%). Enjoy... ;-) -- kind regards, Sean _ Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TLS, Bayesit, NOD32 and TB version 2
Hi all, If I upgrade to version 2 and utilize the Bayesian plug-in, will I also be able to use TLS? And, am I correct in assuming that until Eset comes up with a NOD32 version 2 plug-in for TB version 2, IMON won't work with TLS? -- Regards, Terry Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version 2 Download Mirrors
Tuesday, September 2, 2003, Allen wrote: May be something wrong, indeed -- as I have yet to receive my upgraded key some 15 hours after registering. How long did it take for you guys? I'm in the same situation you are. -- Urban Manhattan Island was bought from the Indians for $24 and I do not suppose you could buy it now for $500. Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version 2 Download Mirrors
Tuesday, September 2, 2003, Allen wrote: May be something wrong, indeed -- as I have yet to receive my upgraded key some 15 hours after registering. How long did it take for you guys? Update to my previous message. It was a mistake on my side, the reg message had found its way to the spam folder. -- Urban Franklin discovered electricity by rubbing two cats backwards and declared, A horse divided against itself cannot stand.. Franklin died in 1790 and is still dead. Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Version 2 Download Mirrors
Hello Allen, Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 2:31:42 PM, you wrote: A May be something wrong, indeed -- as I have yet to receive my A upgraded key some 15 hours after registering. How long did it take A for you guys? A few minutes (10 or 15). -- Best regards, Jos Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Version 2 Download Mirrors **SPAM OSIRU 194.109.127.137**
A May be something wrong, indeed -- as I have yet to receive my A upgraded key some 15 hours after registering. How long did it take A for you guys? A few minutes (10 or 15). After my online registration, they're using The Element 5 site now for that, I got in a 'thank you' message the note: The publisher will send the license key by e-mail within 48 hours. That would make 15 hours even rather fast. :-) -- Regards, Gunivortus Goos MAKE MONEY FAST! (don't feed it anything) Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[5]: Version 2 Download Mirrors **SPAM OSIRU 194.109.127.137**
Hello Gunivortus, Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 6:32:00 PM, you wrote: GG After my online registration, they're using The Element 5 site now for that, GG I got in a 'thank you' message the note: GG The publisher will send the license key by e-mail within 48 hours. GG That would make 15 hours even rather fast. :-) Same message here, but I received my key today within 15 minutes g. -- Best regards, Jos Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: so is version 2 here yet .... :-)
Hello MikeD, Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 2:37:33 PM, you wrote: M3 Work continues on the Bayesian plug in. It is not included, though. M3 You do have to go out and get it separately. Could you give me a pointer to where to get this plug-in? I tried to google but everytime, I end up at programs like Spampal, K9, Popfile. While they do the trick, I would prefer a solution that does not need yet another active process on my machine. Frank -- Best regards, FJ de Bruin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: so is version 2 here yet .... :-)
Hello Robert, Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 3:29:45 AM, you wrote: RG On Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 10:04:14 AM, FJ de Bruin wrote: FdB Can you (or someone else) confirm that Bayesian filtering made it into FdB the final 2.0 version? FdB I tried to look for this info on the ritlabs site but I could not find FdB any reference. http://klirik.narod.ru/arc/bayesit04c.zip -- Best regards, Dangermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: so is version 2 here yet .... :-)
Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 7:54:22 PM, you wrote: M3 Work continues on the Bayesian plug in. Could you give me a pointer to where to get this plug-in? I tried to google but everytime, I end up at programs like Spampal, K9, Popfile. The Bayesian plugin for TB! can be found at http://klirik.narod.ru/arc/bayesit04c.zip Note that this zip does not include docs. You should find Alexey's explanations in the archive of the tbbeta mailing list. I have not tried his plugin as up to now spampal has served my needs sufficiently. -- cheers, Peter Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version 2 Download Mirrors
Hello Cyber, CT Maybe there you will have more luck CT CT Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: CT http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html moderator This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Cyber. Please trim replies to context. A sure fire indicator that insufficient trimming has been done is that the original signature and list footer remain in the quoted text. Thank you. /moderator -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Using The Bat! 2.0 RC1 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[5]: Version 2 Download Mirrors **SPAM OSIRU 194.109.127.137**
A May be something wrong, indeed -- as I have yet to receive my A upgraded key some 15 hours after registering. How long did it take A for you guys? A few minutes (10 or 15). GG After my online registration, they're using The Element 5 site now for that, GG I got in a 'thank you' message the note: GG The publisher will send the license key by e-mail within 48 hours. GG That would make 15 hours even rather fast. :-) I realize this, but in light of no one else having a problem with latency, I threw up a red flag. I think they'd forgotten about me -- because as soon as I emailed Cifnet, I got my reg code. Allen -- | One of my poems chosen at random specifically for you: | http://jarday.com/Loosely%20inspired/never%20let%20the%20painless.shtml | | Running The_Bat! version 2.00 | Windows XP Service Pack 1 build 2600 -- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: so is version 2 here yet .... :-)
On Monday, September 1, 2003, 8:33:44 PM, Avenarius wrote: A After reading all the sceptical opinions about v2 betas on the TBBETA A list, I doubted whether it would be necessary for me to upgrade. The A big improvement in v2 is supposed to be full working IMAP, which I A don't use. Same here. I've played with v2 a bit now, as you say, there are some nice features. I was expecting the html editor to be useful, because I do occasionally want to send html mail, but tbh I'm disappointed with it. If you highlight text in order to change, for example, the font size, you have to highlight it twice - because as soon as you change one thing, you lose the highlight. And it doesn't appear to be possible to paste html into the editor - I get an error message when I try that. I suspect Ritlabs introduced the html editor in order to appeal to a wider audience, but I don't think this one's going to do it. On the bright side, the installation, as you say, was a dream - fast simple. But while I appreciate that other features are to be added as time goes on, at the minute I'm probably going to stick with the old version, because I can't justify paying for new features I don't need our household income is zero :-/ -- Deborah Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: so is version 2 here yet .... :-)
On Tuesday, 2 September 2003, at 9:13:04 p.m., Paul Richardson wrote: Does this mean the Help file has been revised? This is a badly needed improvement. Is it any good? Um. See topic Anti Spam... Enter topic text here. So, there are still patches to worry about. As for the rest, I actually don't remember much about the old stuff except that I could never easily find what I wanted. Someone else who is more familiar may have to comment... -- Regards, Allister. Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
so is version 2 here yet .... :-)
Hello TBUDL, Hey I'm just impatitent ;) Anytime over the next couple of weeks will be fine... -- kind regards, Sean _ Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 _ Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: so is version 2 here yet .... :-)
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/beta/the_bat.exe It's in the beta dir, but it's the final. Hello TBUDL, Hey I'm just impatitent ;) Anytime over the next couple of weeks will be fine... Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: so is version 2 here yet .... :-)
On Monday, September 1, 2003, 23:02:03, Piet Bossuyt wrote: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/beta/the_bat.exe It's in the beta dir, but it's the final. Note that you'll need a new registration code. -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ http://deepthought.ena.si/ A welfare state is one that assumes responsibility for the health, happiness, and general well being of all its citizens except the taxpayers. -- Boyle's Observation Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: so is version 2 here yet .... :-)
Bonjour Jernej, Le lundi 1 septembre 2003 23:18:19, vous criviez : JS On Monday, September 1, 2003, 23:02:03, Piet Bossuyt wrote: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/beta/the_bat.exe It's in the beta dir, but it's the final. JS Note that you'll need a new registration code. Yeah we need this new registration key, but how to obtain it ? -- Cordialement, ArchYmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: so is version 2 here yet .... :-)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello ArchY, Monday, September 1, 2003, 10:20:50 PM, you wrote: A Yeah we need this new registration key, but how to obtain it ? https://www.cifnet.com/cgi-bin/ritlabs/thebat.html?reg=dGltPTEwNjIyNjQ2OTg M - -- Best regards, Martin Webster The Bat! 2.00 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP1O9d1v+PP8p0/caEQIf3ACggmhAafG5W7qqJ+yds6i8GbHU24wAoKFt g98Hi2noZDZ1YAQpleJdrDSE =EaOG -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: so is version 2 here yet .... :-)
On Tuesday, 2 September 2003, at 9:43:12 a.m., Martin Webster wrote: https://www.cifnet.com/cgi-bin/ritlabs/thebat.html?reg=dGltPTEwNjIyNjQ2OTg Excellent! However, some questions. 1) Is it ready for prime time? ie. stable? 2) If I install it, is my wife going to have trouble using it, after being used to 1.xx, and not being technically minded? 3) Is the upgrade straightforward? -- Regards, Allister. Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: so is version 2 here yet .... :-)
On Monday, September 1, 2003, 5:02:03 PM, Piet Bossuyt wrote: PB http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/beta/the_bat.exe PB It's in the beta dir, but it's the final. Questions: What is the price on v2? Student price? Has there been any clarification on the eligibility for the 50% price-break for current users? If I download install v2 decide to go back to 1.62r, can I? Or will I need to re-install 1.62 from scratch? What are the highlights of v2? -- Deborah Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: so is version 2 here yet .... :-)
On Tuesday, 2 September 2003, at 10:38:47 a.m., Deborah W wrote: What is the price on v2? Student price? Has there been any clarification on the eligibility for the 50% price-break for current users? Go look at the registration page mentioned elsewhere in this thread! -- Regards, Allister. Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Version 2
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello List, Has anybody of you heard any trustworthy information about the date for the release of Version 2? Some months ago the end of this summer was given as a date. I came from vacation September 1 - and we are still using 1.61 (or 1.62 beta). :-) - -- Robert mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -=Robert Beata Golovniov | Lviv, Ukraine=- ~ PGP public key: 0x633F6D07 (link 1 - embedded, link 2 - attached) Fingerprint: 1A1C 29F1 2A0C 4C4E 0BDA C8EE 5A1D 9F03 633F 6D07 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP%20KeyBody=Please%20send%20key mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=GPG%20KeyBody=Please%20send%20key ~ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.91 (Win32) - GPGshell v2.55 Comment: PGP-signed for authentication. iD8DBQE9dfN3Wh2fA2M/bQcRAtw5AJ92VICBSKosW2jiz9U5h6S7BnzbfQCguiyX jG3ZyxthL77LxvkOIt5jx/U= =ft3D -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Registration and Version 2
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ciao Marck, Sunday, September 17, 2000, 1:05:27 AM, you wrote: Where we can download alfa-beta versions of TB 1.xx or 2.xx ? (if it is possible ! ;-) MDP -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- B I will need to register my copy of TB! soon. I'm concerned that B version 2 will come out right after I pay to register version 1.x. MDP Version 2 is not even in Beta yet. There's no danger of it - -- Bye,Bye... TIME di Stefano Zamprogno Via A.Bonetto,6 31044 Montebelluna Treviso E-Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB: http://www.zamprogno.com - http://www.zamprogno.it ICQ : 3813299 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOcWwuAUHijbxDVv6EQKXFgCaA6qTRtxoTS7GC6vyjXG+9UVlWv0An0bT LyCrIrJm8Uz8RFpYfTtwiU93 =0Wsh -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Registration and Version 2
Hi Stefano, On Mon, 18 Sep 2000 09:05:37 +0200GMT (18/09/2000, 15:05 +0800GMT), Stefano Zamprogno wrote: SZ Where we can download alfa-beta versions of TB 1.xx or 2.xx ? SZ (if it is possible ! ;-) TB 1.47/beta1 can be downloaded at ftp://ftp.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/beta Also, you'd better join the TBBETA discussion list in order to discuss beta issues. Do this by clicking on this link: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] There are no beta beta of v2 yet. And the alpha versions are not uploaded anywhere. Have fun, and don't forget to backup before you install any beta! :-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.46c under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Registration and Version 2
Hello Stefano Zamprogno, Responding to your article on Monday, September 18, 2000 at 09:05:37 GMT +0200 (which was 18/09/2000 14:05 GMT +0700 my Local Time) : SZ Where we can download alfa-beta versions of TB 1.xx or 2.xx ? SZ (if it is possible ! ;-) Look here http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/beta.html -- Best regards, - Syafril - Name : Syafril Hermansyah |Company: Duta Integrasi Pratama Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Voice : (62) (21) 385-1600 FAXto : (62)(21)351-9241 key:000FAX |URL: http://www.dutaint.co.id Using The Bat! 1.46 under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 Created : Monday, September 18, 2000, 14:42:26 GMT +0700 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Registration and Version 2
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ciao Thomas, Monday, September 18, 2000, 9:19:54 AM, you wrote: TF Also, you'd better join the TBBETA discussion list in order to discuss TF beta issues. Do this by clicking on this link: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks ! TF Have fun, and don't forget to backup before you install any beta! :-) Oops , sure ! :-) - -- Bye,Bye... TIME di Stefano Zamprogno Via A.Bonetto,6 31044 Montebelluna Treviso E-Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB: http://www.zamprogno.com - http://www.zamprogno.it ICQ : 3813299 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOcW/6AUHijbxDVv6EQLSlgCeN3KE862NlZpeunSvE4b/eQzqf74AmwW7 RLEhgxHlrqleFzdg8+xfiH6x =LAHP -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
