Re: when a server is not a server...

2003-03-15 Thread Marcus Ohlström
On Saturday, March 15, 2003, 22:44, Adam wrote: > You could try Offline files, supported under Windows 2000/XP, as > Jernej mentioned before. I use Second Copy, recommended by Miguel which does pretty much the same (but better, IMHO). I was hoping for a better solution, though. Anyway, thanks f

Re: when a server is not a server...

2003-03-15 Thread Adam
Hello Marcus, Friday, March 14, 2003, 8:17:41 AM, you wrote: MO>>> or that the files are stored _and_ processed remotely which would MO>>> mean only the relevant information is sent to the client, not the MO>>> entire message base. >> What do you mean by relevant information? MO> What I was

Re: when a server is not a server...

2003-03-14 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Mark, On Fri, 14 Mar 2003 14:04:42 -0800 GMT (15/03/03, 05:04 +0700 GMT), Mark Wieder wrote: TF>> network. I prefer to lock them completely rather than for write access TF>> only. Mind you, if someone opens a file, it will be open for less than TF>> a second (to be vague), because once the

Re: when a server is not a server...

2003-03-14 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Mike, On Fri, 14 Mar 2003 21:20:59 + GMT (15/03/03, 04:20 +0700 GMT), Mike Alexander wrote: > Is there no way of locking the files so one instance locks out any > other access? Yes, there is, but only on programming level. All you can do as a user is send a wishlist item to Ritlabs. -

Re: when a server is not a server...

2003-03-14 Thread Carsten Thönges
* Marcus Ohlström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I myself are interested in having TB! installed as a server on machine > A, and on machine B run TB! with two accounts, one which should connect > to the server as a non tcp/ip workstation, the other which should work > as a generic email client. As

Re[2]: when a server is not a server...

2003-03-14 Thread Mark Wieder
Thomas- Thursday, March 13, 2003, 4:52:10 PM, you wrote: TF> If two users are writing to a file at the same time, it *will* cause TF> problems. I don't understand what you mean by locking "properly": a TF> file is locked or not. Depending on the programming language, you TF> might be able to dist

Re: when a server is not a server...

2003-03-14 Thread Allie Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mark Wieder [MW] wrote: MW> I've gotten into the habit of archiving the registry settings on the MW> first workstation I set up in a system and then importing the MW> settings onto the next one and so forth. It makes the configuration MW> job a simple

Re[2]: when a server is not a server...

2003-03-14 Thread Mark Wieder
Allie- I've gotten into the habit of archiving the registry settings on the first workstation I set up in a system and then importing the settings onto the next one and so forth. It makes the configuration job a simple double-click - all the accounts are pointing to the proper place on the server,

Re[2]: when a server is not a server...

2003-03-14 Thread Mike Alexander
Hi Thomas, Thursday, March 13, 2003, 4:48:30 AM, you wrote: >> Any idea what happens when both try to access the files at the same time? TF> Loss of data integrity, corruption or loss of data. Is there no way of locking the files so one instance locks out any other access? -- Best regards,

Re: when a server is not a server...

2003-03-14 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello DG, On Fri, 14 Mar 2003 12:27:18 -0500 GMT (15/03/03, 00:27 +0700 GMT), DG Raftery Sr. wrote: TF>> Want to talk with me about semaphores and how file TF>> locking works? Or what physically happens when a file on a network TF>> drive is accessed for writing by two users at the same time and

Re[2]: when a server is not a server...

2003-03-14 Thread DG Raftery Sr.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Friday, March 14, 2003 12:14:25 PM RE: "when a server is not a server..." Greetings Thomas, On Thursday, March 13, 2003, 7:52:10 PM, you wrote: TF> Want to talk with me about semaphores and how file TF> locking works? Or what ph

Re: when a server is not a server...

2003-03-14 Thread Marcus Ohlström
On Friday, March 14, 2003, 12:59, Allie Martin wrote: > With the setup I initially described, i.e., changing the home > directory via the registry, no mail bases are transferred. All > account data is stored on the server. You're just seeing a display > of it through your installa

Re: when a server is not a server...

2003-03-14 Thread Allie Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marcus Ohlström [MO] wrote: MO> What I was hoping for was a setup where the client is merely a MO> display of what's going on at the server side, like with Microsoft's MO> Terminal Server. Then, if the client caches the message bases MO> locally and u

Re: when a server is not a server...

2003-03-14 Thread Marcus Ohlström
On Friday, March 14, 2003, 11:50, Allie Martin wrote: MO>> or that the files are stored _and_ processed remotely which would MO>> mean only the relevant information is sent to the client, not the MO>> entire message base. > What do you mean by relevant information? What I was hoping for was

Re: when a server is not a server...

2003-03-14 Thread Allie Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marcus Ohlström [MO] wrote: >> Each account has a home directory. Again, you can change this to the >> home directory of an account on the server. MO> Ah, I see. Is that how TB!'s client/server works? Yes. MO> I'd rather have all *.tb(b|i) file

Re: when a server is not a server...

2003-03-14 Thread Marcus Ohlström
On Friday, March 14, 2003, 11:23, Allie Martin wrote: > Mixed? I reviewed your message and see what you meant. Sorry about > that. No problem. > Each account has a home directory. Again, you can change this to > the home directory of an account on the server. Ah, I see. Is that

Re: when a server is not a server...

2003-03-14 Thread Allie Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marcus Ohlström [MO] wrote: MO> It does? I know there's information about the client/server mode, MO> but I didn't see any about the mixed setup I want. I'll go back and MO> have a look again. Mixed? I reviewed your message and see what you meant

Re: when a server is not a server...

2003-03-14 Thread Allie Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mark Wieder [MW] wrote: MW> Well, that's an interesting question. It's not a simple yes/no MW> thing. I use a server mode TB running on a Win2k server machine. The MW> other computers had TB installed in workstation (no TCP) mode to MW> generate the r

Re: when a server is not a server...

2003-03-14 Thread Marcus Ohlström
On Thursday, March 13, 2003, 03:29, Allie Martin wrote: >It is possible. Take a look in the help section 'Mailing Within the >Internet'//'Network and Administration'//'The Bat! Networking >Course >A detailed description of how to do what you seem to want to do is >outlined th

Re: when a server is not a server...

2003-03-14 Thread Marcus Ohlström
On Wednesday, March 12, 2003, 17:58, Tomasz Nidecki wrote: > I'm not 100% sure, but wouldn't it just be easier to install Hamster? > It's a freeware mail and news server, and I believe (but I might be > wrong - I only use it for news) it should have the necessary > capabilities... Check it out.

Re[2]: when a server is not a server...

2003-03-13 Thread Mark Wieder
Allie- Thursday, March 13, 2003, 4:29:45 PM, you wrote: AM> Are you running a TB! server/clients network? Or are you running AM> multiple TB!'s in 'Worstation' mode, but which are all configured to AM> use the same working mail directory? Well, that's an interesting question. It's n

Re: when a server is not a server...

2003-03-13 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Thursday, March 13, 2003, 7:48 PM, you wrote: PC>> at the same time... I mean I COULD just do a backup, right? and PC>> restore it to the laptop. AM> Yes, you could. Do you have direct CD? This could make it that much AM> easier. that would be EASYCDCreator, and NO I don't have it. I

Re: when a server is not a server...

2003-03-13 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Mark, On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 12:06:22 -0800 GMT (14/03/03, 03:06 +0700 GMT), Mark Wieder wrote: >>> Any idea what happens when both try to access the files at the same time? TF>> Loss of data integrity, corruption or loss of data. > I, OTOH, try to go by the rule that if you don't know what

Re: when a server is not a server...

2003-03-13 Thread Allie Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul Cartwright [PC] wrote: PC> I have a CD-RW, but I've never done a re-writable CD PC> maybe it is TIME!! let's see, I buy 100 CD's for $22, I don't think PC> using just a CD each time would kill me either, AND it is a BACKUP, PC> at the same time.

Re: when a server is not a server...

2003-03-13 Thread Allie Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mark Wieder [MW] wrote: MW> I, OTOH, try to go by the rule that if you don't know what you're MW> talking about, don't post answers. MW> I've been using the networked multiuser solution on my own system MW> and on several client systems for a couple

Re[2]: when a server is not a server...

2003-03-13 Thread rick
Hello Paul, Thursday, March 13, 2003, 3:39:26 PM, you wrote: PC> yes, and a fine moderator you are too sir!!! You and Marck have been PC> doing a great job, I don't mind saying so, and I mention it to everyone PC> any time I get the chance!! I vote to just DUMP Rick, do we get a PC> vote??? I f

Re[2]: when a server is not a server...

2003-03-13 Thread Deborah W
On Thursday, March 13, 2003, 8:39:26 PM, Paul Cartwright wrote: AM>> Wow! Still trying to use floppies for this sort of thing? :) It AM>> will really be frustrating then. A rewriteable CD would be better.. AM>> or a zip disk. I guess you don't have either, so you have to AM>> struggle with that in

Re: when a server is not a server...

2003-03-13 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Wednesday, March 12, 2003, 9:11 PM, you wrote: PC>> Last time I tried the synchro it took 15 floppies, because of the PC>> size of the HOME account. AM> Wow! Still trying to use floppies for this sort of thing? :) It will AM> really be frustrating then. A rewriteable CD would be bette

Re[2]: when a server is not a server...

2003-03-13 Thread Mark Wieder
Thomas- Wednesday, March 12, 2003, 8:48:30 PM, you wrote: >> Any idea what happens when both try to access the files at the same time? TF> Loss of data integrity, corruption or loss of data. I, OTOH, try to go by the rule that if you don't know what you're talking about, don't post answers. I'

Re: when a server is not a server...

2003-03-12 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Gerard, On Wed, 12 Mar 2003 16:30:21 +0100 GMT (12/03/03, 22:30 +0700 GMT), Gerard wrote: AM>> It's possible to have two pc's with a TB! installation using the AM>> same message bases and accounts. > Any idea what happens when both try to access the files at the same time? Loss of data in

Re: when a server is not a server...

2003-03-12 Thread Allie Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marcus Ohlström [MO] wrote: MO> I myself are interested in having TB! installed as a server on MO> machine A, and on machine B run TB! with two accounts, one which MO> should connect to the server as a non tcp/ip workstation, the other MO> which shoul

Re: when a server is not a server...

2003-03-12 Thread Allie Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gerard [G] wrote: G> Any idea what happens when both try to access the files at the same G> time? Since I haven't tried it, I'm not sure. I hope someone with such a setup can step in here and share their experience. - -- -= allie_M =- | List

Re: when a server is not a server...

2003-03-12 Thread Allie Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ss [S] wrote: S> (large ship) (to save bytes, you know :-) AM>>HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\rit\The Bat!\\Working Directory S> Thank you very much for the hot tip... You're welcome. :) AM>>If you simply change the Mail directory via the TB

Re: when a server is not a server...

2003-03-12 Thread Allie Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul Cartwright [PC] wrote: PC> this synchro process isn't exactly meeting my needs, or I'm not able PC> to do it right. For simplicity sake, say I have 2 accounts HOME & PC> WORK. I get most of my mail from the HOME account, but need access PC> to bo

Re[2]: when a server is not a server...

2003-03-12 Thread Mark Buell
Allie, Good answer! AM> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- AM> Hash: SHA1 AM> Ss [S] wrote: S>> Reason is dead simple - I have one main PC (the "server") where most S>> of the mailing stuff gets done (will be done), but I have another PC S>> in the bedroom, on which I would lazy over on Sundays

Re[2]: when a server is not a server...

2003-03-12 Thread Tomasz Nidecki
Wednesday, March 12, 2003, 11:41:55 AM, Marcus wrote: > I myself are interested in having TB! installed as a server on machine > A, and on machine B run TB! with two accounts, one which should connect > to the server as a non tcp/ip workstation, the other which should work > as a generic email cli

Re: when a server is not a server...

2003-03-12 Thread Gerard
ON Wednesday, March 12, 2003, 12:15:48 PM, you wrote: AM> It's possible to have two pc's with a TB! installation using the same AM>message bases and accounts. Hi Allie, Any idea what happens when both try to access the files at the same time? -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Re: when a server is not a server...

2003-03-12 Thread SS
Hello Allie, Wednesday, March 12, 2003, 11:15:48 AM, you wrote: (large ship) (to save bytes, you know :-) AM>HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\rit\The Bat!\\Working Directory Thank you very much for the hot tip... AM>If you simply change the Mail directory via the TB! interface, TB! AM>wil

Re: when a server is not a server...

2003-03-12 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Wednesday, March 12, 2003, 6:15 AM, you wrote: AM>The only way to do this is to synchronise the installation or use an AM>external application to synchronise the Mail directories for the AM>server and the laptop. this synchro process isn't exactly meeting my needs, or I'm not able

Re: when a server is not a server...

2003-03-12 Thread Allie Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ss [S] wrote: S> Reason is dead simple - I have one main PC (the "server") where most S> of the mailing stuff gets done (will be done), but I have another PC S> in the bedroom, on which I would lazy over on Sundays and send mail S> from it rather than

Re: when a server is not a server...

2003-03-12 Thread Marcus Ohlström
On Wednesday, March 12, 2003, 03:39, SS wrote: > In any case, what I am interested to do is have a "server" mode Bat > running on a given PC and then 2 more "workstation" connecting to > it, but all being able to see one and the same set of accounts. I'm afraid I cannot help you,

Re: when a server is not a server...

2003-03-11 Thread Roberto Machorro
Hi I've been happily sharing the folder where I have my The Bat e-mails using MS-Networking. Then I install TB in another PC on the local net, I create a new account and I browse over to other computer and use those files, too. It works great and no special setup is needed :) Roberto Tuesday,

when a server is not a server...

2003-03-11 Thread SS
Hello Folks, I am struggling over a question on the "server" functionality of TB. I understand (I think) that in standalone mode TB collects and shows you your email (like for most of us), in non-TCP mode acts as an internal workgroup mail client (whatever) and lastly in server mode