Re: Which New Message Template?
Hello Tony, > I need to update the new mail template but I have used it (with > minor variations) in many folders. Is there a way to find them all? Aside of what MFPA and Thomas have suggested, there is one thing that maybe useful to you to be aware of about folders: default templates. When you create a new folder, its templates default to whatever are the Account Templates. What I did many years ago is add this line at the end of all account templates: %COMMENT="This is default"%COMMENT="" This way, if and when I modify a folder template, I will delete this line. So, next time I happen to look at this folder template I will know it was modified. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (Els Poblets (Alicante) - Spain) Using The Bat! v8.2.8.3 (BETA) My photos at: http://mau.smugmug.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Which New Message Template?
Hello MFPA, Monday, March 5, 2018, 9:08:39 PM, you wrote: > As you need to update it anyway, I suggest you look at building it up > from Quick Templates. That way, next time you just change the info in > the QT and the change carries through to all your varying versions of > the new message template. > Another suggestion is to use the %include macro in the message > templates to point to a text file. For example, one of my new message > templates just says:- > %INCLUDE="%maildir%\templates\new_msg_template_general.txt"%- > The actual template is in the text file it points to, and I keep all > of them in the same folder. In that case, the text file says:- > %SetEditor="1"%- > %QT="Std_Header"%- > %- > Hi %UCFIRST="%TOFName" > %Cursor > %- > %QT="Std_Signature"%- > %- > %nopgpmime%- > (My Quick Templates are also just a %include macro, but they point to > text files in a quick_templates subdirectory of the templates folder.) Thanks. I'll give it a go. -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 8.2.8.3 (BETA) with IMAP on Windows 10.0. Build: 16299 Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Which New Message Template?
Hello Thomas, > I use Quick Templates for that. For example, I need to update any > holiday announcements in the templates for my company account, so each > template has the signature as quick template, so only the macro > %companysig is in each indivual template. > Then I only need to update the quick template with the handle > companysig. That seems like a good idea. I'll give it a go. -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 8.2.8.3 (BETA) with IMAP on Windows 10.0. Build: 16299 Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Which New Message Template?
Hello Tony, On Mon, 5 Mar 2018 17:05:13 + GMT (06-Mar-18, 00:05 +0700 GMT), Tony Hoare wrote: > Does anyone know how to find which templates exist and are active? > You can have a template at the account level, the folder level > within an account, an address book group and an individual contact. There is a hierarchy of templates. If you have a template on the account level only, this will be used. If you also have one on the folder level, this will override it. If there is one on the individual contact, this takes top priority over the others. I am not sure about address book groups, as I don't use them. I would think their hierarchy is between folder and individual contact. > I need to update the new mail template but I have used it (with > minor variations) in many folders. Is there a way to find them all? I use Quick Templates for that. For example, I need to update any holiday announcements in the templates for my company account, so each template has the signature as quick template, so only the macro %companysig is in each indivual template. Then I only need to update the quick template with the handle companysig. -- Cheers, Thomas. Travel Map: http://matadornetwork.com/travel-map/db757901ff009eef93a2fc09521fb6bf-1482632877 Message reply created with The Bat! 8.2.4 under Windows 10.0 Build 16299 Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Which New Message Template?
Hi On Monday 5 March 2018 at 5:05:13 PM, in , Tony Hoare wrote:- > Does anyone know how to find which templates exist > and are active? I do not know where The Bat! stores them by default. But there are ways around this. > You can have a template at the account level, the > folder level > within an account, an address book group and an > individual contact. The folder level does not have to be within an account: you can have Folder Templates in Common Folders, too. > I need to update the new mail template but I have > used it (with > minor variations) in many folders. Is there a way to > find them all? Maybe somebody knows a quick way to find them. I don't but I made it easier for myself. I learned most of this from this list but unfortunately cannot remember who to credit. As you need to update it anyway, I suggest you look at building it up from Quick Templates. That way, next time you just change the info in the QT and the change carries through to all your varying versions of the new message template. Another suggestion is to use the %include macro in the message templates to point to a text file. For example, one of my new message templates just says:- %INCLUDE="%maildir%\templates\new_msg_template_general.txt"%- The actual template is in the text file it points to, and I keep all of them in the same folder. In that case, the text file says:- %SetEditor="1"%- %QT="Std_Header"%- %- Hi %UCFIRST="%TOFName" %Cursor %- %QT="Std_Signature"%- %- %nopgpmime%- (My Quick Templates are also just a %include macro, but they point to text files in a quick_templates subdirectory of the templates folder.) -- Best regards MFPA <mailto:2017-r3sgs86x8e-lists-gro...@riseup.net> Keep them dry and don't feed them after midnight Using The Bat! v8.2.8.2 (BETA) on Windows 10.0 Build 16299 Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Which New Message Template?
Hi All, Does anyone know how to find which templates exist and are active? You can have a template at the account level, the folder level within an account, an address book group and an individual contact. I need to update the new mail template but I have used it (with minor variations) in many folders. Is there a way to find them all? -- Best regards, Tony mailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
New Message Template
Hi A number of my programs have a menu option to send a new mail message using the default email program (in my case TheBat! 4.1) with the current document as an attachment. This seems to work in most cases other than the default new message template isn't used and I am presented with a blank window. Is there any way to make TB start with the new message template every time or is it limited only to new messages started from within TB? Although I have a number of accounts I do have one selected as the default for mailto: URLs -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 4.1.7 and AntispamSniper 3.0.1.2 Current version is 4.1.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Address book and New Message Template
Hi Robin, On Thursday, January 24, 2008 at 10:08:50 PM you wrote: RA> On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 at 17:24:00 -0500, Maggie wrote: MP>>> Could it be you have more than one entry for them in your AB? >> I have an additional entry for him alone and for her alone both with their >> own handles. RA> I have a suspicion that when called from the main screen, TB! just RA> looks for the first entry in the address book with the particular RA> email address. So if all 3 entries have the same email address, RA> although you call the joint entry by nickname, it still goes back and RA> finds Joe's solitary entry when looking for the template to use. I tried reversing the names and it now calls Sue instead of Joe. I tried entering a bogus couple with a fictitious address, using an AB template with Dear Bill and Jane, (no macro) and got a proper Dear Bill and Jane. There were no other addresses for them. So, I then decided to delete Joe's address, shut down, and re-enter it. Lo and behold, I received this: --- Application Error --- Exception ECriticalSectionsLeak in module thebat.exe at 0003CF75. Resource leak: 8 instance(s) of TBatCriticalSection left Caller addresses listed below: 00ADE377 00AFC323 00AFC323 00AFC323 00AFC323 00AFC323 00AFC323 00AFC323. --- OK --- There was another error message at the same time about a pointer, but it went by too fast to get it all. Am hanging up the gloves for tonight and will resume the bout tomorrow when I will try your following. Thanks, Robin. RA> Try changing the email address (temporarily) in the address book entry RA> for him alone, and creating an email from the main screen. If it then RA> goes to the AB template from the joint entry (or even the one for Sue RA> alone) it will prove this to be the case. -- Regards, Maggie No amount of time can erase the memory of a good cat, and no amount of masking tape can ever totally remove his fur from your couch. -Leo Dworken Emailing with The Bat! 3.99.29 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address book and New Message Template
On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 at 17:24:00 -0500, Maggie wrote: MP>> Could it be you have more than one entry for them in your AB? > > I have an additional entry for him alone and for her alone both with their > own handles. I have a suspicion that when called from the main screen, TB! just looks for the first entry in the address book with the particular email address. So if all 3 entries have the same email address, although you call the joint entry by nickname, it still goes back and finds Joe's solitary entry when looking for the template to use. Try changing the email address (temporarily) in the address book entry for him alone, and creating an email from the main screen. If it then goes to the AB template from the joint entry (or even the one for Sue alone) it will prove this to be the case. -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.99.25 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address book and New Message Template
Hello Maggie, Thursday, January 24, 2008, 11:24:00 PM, you wrote: MP>> Could it be you have more than one entry for them in your AB? MM> I have an additional entry for him alone and for her alone both with their own handles. What happens when you activate an AB New Message Template in which you put f.i. (not necessarily as a salutation): "1. Joe" in the AB entry for him alone "2. Sue" in the AB entry for her alone (*) "3. Joe And Sue" in the AB entry for both Which one shows up then? (*) I presume Johnny Cash is not envolved! :-) -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.0.0.12 (ALPHA) Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Address book and New Message Template
Hi Mark, On Thursday, January 24, 2008 at 6:05:09 PM you wrote: MP> Are there any AB New Message templates active for those? No, I checked. There are also no folder templates either. MP> If not, what happens when you activate one for him in which you put MP> "Dear Joe and Sue" or whatever [f.i. you could also use something like MP> "The miserable life of a toilet blessed with a severe form of Mysophobia"] When I put in "The miserable..." into the AB New Message template, if I chose a new message from the main screen, it still said Dear Joe. Using the New Message button on the Address Book toolbar with their handle, I got "The miserable...". So weird. -- Regards, Maggie We are dreamers, shapers, singers, and makers. -Michael Ansara as Elric Emailing with The Bat! 3.99.29 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address book and New Message Template
Hello Maggie, Thursday, January 24, 2008, 11:24:00 PM, you wrote: MM> I have an additional entry for him alone and for her alone both with their own handles. Are there any AB New Message templates active for those? If not, what happens when you activate one for him in which you put "Dear Joe and Sue" or whatever [f.i. you could also use something like "The miserable life of a toilet blessed with a severe form of Mysophobia"] :-) -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.0.0.12 (ALPHA) Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Address book and New Message Template
Hi Mark, On Thursday, January 24, 2008 at 5:04:08 PM you wrote: MP> Before writing I tried that out and it worked as expected. MP> Could it be you have more than one entry for them in your AB? I have an additional entry for him alone and for her alone both with their own handles. -- Regards, Maggie The trouble with political jokes is they get elected. Emailing with The Bat! 3.99.29 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address book and New Message Template
Hello Maggie, Thursday, January 24, 2008, 10:37:01 PM, you wrote: MM> Understandably this is hard to understand (even for me, and I wrote it!) MM> Thanks for taking a look at this for me. Before writing I tried that out and it worked as expected. Could it be you have more than one entry for them in your AB? -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.0.0.12 (ALPHA) Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Address book and New Message Template
Hi Mark, On Thursday, January 24, 2008 at 3:55:15 PM you wrote: MM>> If I choose a new email from the New Message button in the address book MM>> when their name is highlighted, all is well and the new message reads: Dear Joe and Sue. MM>> If I create a message by calling a new message from the main screen and MM>> using their nickname (handle), the salutation says Dear Joe only. MM>> How can I get the new message to read Dear Joe and Sue when using the nickname to call a new message? MP> Perhaps I'm missing something, but what's wrong with simply putting MP> "Dear Joe and Sue" (without quotes of course & instead of using a macro) MP> in the AB - New Message Template, meanwhile not forgetting to tick "use MP> specific template for new messages" (translated - text may be slightly MP> different)??? Yes, I did that, I did not use a macro. The address book template says Dear Joe and Sue, but it only shows up that way if I create the new email from the "New" button in the address book window, NOT if I am in the main screen calling up a New message and using the handle in the To: address line to address their mail. The result is only Dear Joe. Understandably this is hard to understand (even for me, and I wrote it!) Thanks for taking a look at this for me. -- Regards, Maggie Even overweight, cats instinctively know the cardinal rule: when fat, arrange yourself in slim poses. -John Weitz Emailing with The Bat! 3.99.29 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address book and New Message Template
Hello Maggie, Thursday, January 24, 2008, 6:38:02 PM, you wrote: MM> If I choose a new email from the New Message button in the address book MM> when their name is highlighted, all is well and the new message reads: Dear Joe and Sue. MM> If I create a message by calling a new message from the main screen and MM> using their nickname (handle), the salutation says Dear Joe only. MM> How can I get the new message to read Dear Joe and Sue when using the nickname to call a new message? Perhaps I'm missing something, but what's wrong with simply putting "Dear Joe and Sue" (without quotes of course & instead of using a macro) in the AB - New Message Template, meanwhile not forgetting to tick "use specific template for new messages" (translated - text may be slightly different)??? -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.0.0.12 (ALPHA) Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Address book and New Message Template
Hello Bats, I have a new message template in the address book for a couple with whom I correspond. They both have different email addresses. In the first name line in the address book, I have Joe and Sue. The Display Name As is User Defined. The Display Name is Joe and Sue. The new message template says Dear Joe and Sue. If I choose a new email from the New Message button in the address book when their name is highlighted, all is well and the new message reads: Dear Joe and Sue. If I create a message by calling a new message from the main screen and using their nickname (handle), the salutation says Dear Joe only. How can I get the new message to read Dear Joe and Sue when using the nickname to call a new message? -- Best regards, Maggie Just remember, we're all in this alone. -Lily Tomlin Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Recipient macro in New Message template
Isn't that the address cache that I just asked about deleting? In the newly-created email click on the arrow in the To: field and it will bring up addresses that you have previously used or even incorrectly typed in. I deleted them because I prefer to use my address book which has now successfully been imported. >From my post: > While talking about the address book, could someone please tell me > how to delete the address list history when creating new emails. Open a new message, then on the To: line go to the drop down list, but don't touch any keys once the list appears. Now take your down arrow and hit it once. That should cause the first entry in the List to be highlighted. You can now use the arrow and delete keys to edit at will. :o) And my thanks to Nick Andriash for providing the information on deleting the cache. Elaine > Hello Orrie, > On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 09:27:54 -0500 GMT (24/01/02, 22:27 +0800 GMT), > Orrie Frutkin wrote: OF>> My New Message template begins with "Hi %TOFNAME," > Try the macro %ABToFirstName instead. > AB means addressbook. I found this in the help under "Full alphabetic > list of macros". OF>> Also, TB seems to fill in the address of previously used names from OF>> some stored area other than the Address Book, like from a cache of OF>> some sort. I've purposely changed addresses and TB continues to write OF>> the old address. Very puzzling. > Weird indeed. Hello Orrie, On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 09:27:54 -0500 GMT (24/01/02, 22:27 +0800 GMT), Orrie Frutkin wrote: OF> My New Message template begins with "Hi %TOFNAME," Try the macro %ABToFirstName instead. AB means addressbook. I found this in the help under "Full alphabetic list of macros". OF> Also, TB seems to fill in the address of previously used names from OF> some stored area other than the Address Book, like from a cache of OF> some sort. I've purposely changed addresses and TB continues to write OF> the old address. Very puzzling. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Recipient macro in New Message template
Hello Orrie, On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 09:27:54 -0500GMT (24-1-02, 15:27 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: OF> How can I get it say "Hi Joe," and get TB to recognize changes I make OF> in recipient info. I'm using %ABtoFIRSTNAME="%TOFNAME" in my template, that takes the first name from the address book and if there isn't a corresponding address book entry, it takes the first name from the TO: header. Works for new messages and replies the same. The auto-completion can be set by: Options -> Preferences -> System tab -> autocomplete -- Groetjes, Roelof -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Recipient macro in New Message template
Hello Orrie, On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 09:27:54 -0500 GMT (24/01/02, 22:27 +0800 GMT), Orrie Frutkin wrote: OF> My New Message template begins with "Hi %TOFNAME," Try the macro %ABToFirstName instead. AB means addressbook. I found this in the help under "Full alphabetic list of macros". OF> Also, TB seems to fill in the address of previously used names from OF> some stored area other than the Address Book, like from a cache of OF> some sort. I've purposely changed addresses and TB continues to write OF> the old address. Very puzzling. Weird indeed. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. If flying is so safe, why do they call the airport the 'terminal'? Message reply created with The Bat! 1.54 Beta/30 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 67766446 A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Recipient macro in New Message template
Disregarding for the moment how you have set up your addressbook, if the content of the To: field is: "Firstname Lastname" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> does the macro act properly? JN Orrie Frutkin wrote on Thursday, January 24, 2002: > Hi [EMAIL PROTECTED], > The above almost sums up my problem: > My New Message template begins with "Hi %TOFNAME," which should render > a greeting to a recipient by his/her first name. But when I address > a new message using the Address Book, The Bat! inserts either the > entire e-mail address or the first part of it after "Hi", even though > the template says to pick up the recipient's first name. I have filled > out the name fields on the Properties tabs with First and Last Name, > Handle and Display Name. In other words, if I address my mail to Joe > Smith at [EMAIL PROTECTED], TB will usually start the message with "Hi jsmith," > or, even worse "Hi [EMAIL PROTECTED]," rather than "Hi Joe," > Also, TB seems to fill in the address of previously used names from > some stored area other than the Address Book, like from a cache of > some sort. I've purposely changed addresses and TB continues to write > the old address. Very puzzling. > How can I get it say "Hi Joe," and get TB to recognize changes I make > in recipient info. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Recipient macro in New Message template
Hi [EMAIL PROTECTED], The above almost sums up my problem: My New Message template begins with "Hi %TOFNAME," which should render a greeting to a recipient by his/her first name. But when I address a new message using the Address Book, The Bat! inserts either the entire e-mail address or the first part of it after "Hi", even though the template says to pick up the recipient's first name. I have filled out the name fields on the Properties tabs with First and Last Name, Handle and Display Name. In other words, if I address my mail to Joe Smith at [EMAIL PROTECTED], TB will usually start the message with "Hi jsmith," or, even worse "Hi [EMAIL PROTECTED]," rather than "Hi Joe," Also, TB seems to fill in the address of previously used names from some stored area other than the Address Book, like from a cache of some sort. I've purposely changed addresses and TB continues to write the old address. Very puzzling. How can I get it say "Hi Joe," and get TB to recognize changes I make in recipient info. -- Best regards, Orrie "If you don't find it in the index, look very carefully through the entire catalogue." -- Sears, Roebuck Orrie Frutkin Copywriter/Marketing Communications 24 Derby Road Port Washington NY 11050 (516) 883-6088 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
The Bat! - bug report - new message template BCC macro ignored
Hi, TB! developers, I'm using The Bat! Version 1.53t Serial Number 3283B3AA under Windows 2000 Pro SP2 I'd like to report a bug: Description: --- Under certain circumstances, the BCC macro is ignored if a new message is created with the Favourites drop-down list. Steps to reproduce the bug: -- 1. If both the Account New message template _and_ the AB entry New message template contain BCC macros and a new message is created using the Favourites drop-down list, the AB BCC macro is ignored. 2. If _only_ the Account New message template contains a BCC macro (the AB entry New message template is empty) and a new message is created using the Favourites drop-down list, the Account BCC macro is ignored. This bug has been confirmed by several other people. A TBUDL thread on this subject can be found here: http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/msg32531.html regards, Andrew Aronoff -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
