Hi all!
John Lyles e-mailed me after he noticed a significant mistake in the
map that I prepared for the regional at Big Manhole Cave. (I hope
you've all received that notice.) On the map, you'll note that there
is a comment about Distinct right turns at these junctions!
texascavers Digest 24 Feb 2009 15:41:45 - Issue 715
Topics (messages 10228 through 10249):
Re: Center of the Caving Universe
10228 by: Preston Forsythe
10232 by: Alex Sproul
Some Kinda Soul
10229 by: Gill Ediger
Underground houses
10230 by: Gill Ediger
David lives in Sugar Land.
-Original Message-
From: R D Milhollin [mailto:rdmilhol...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 11:31 PM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com; Mike Gross
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Caving Club at SFA
Wasn't David Locklear exploring for caves in East Texas a
Sleeping on the couch.
-Original Message-
From: R D Milhollin [mailto:rdmilhol...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 11:31 PM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com; Mike Gross
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Caving Club at SFA
Wasn't David Locklear exploring for caves in East Texas a while
No-man,
Houston is the ghetto and illegal alien center of the universe. That is,
considering Texas to be the meaningful inverse.
Fritz
From: Geary Schindel [mailto:gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org]
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 10:56 PM
To: germa...@aol.com;
I can't spell but you know what I meant.
Fritz
From: Fritz Holt [mailto:fh...@townandcountryins.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 9:40 AM
To: Geary Schindel; germa...@aol.com; bmixon...@austin.rr.com;
texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] new
Geary,
I thought West Texas was everything west of the Pecos and east Texas was
everything east with the exception of Houston which is considered no-mans land.
You left out Central Texas, where the center of the caving universe is!
No one I know considers Austin, Dallas or San Antonio
Mark,
I agreed, But every time I'm out in the Ft. Stockton area, they label us
folks from San Antonio as east Texans. They can't believe that anyone
or anything could survive in such a wet humid climate (as we suffer our
19th month of drought).
Geary
From: Minton, Mark
And we have even less rain out in Midland...
Bill
- Original Message -
From: Geary Schindel
To: Minton, Mark ; texascavers@texascavers.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 11:10 AM
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] RE: new caving club
Mark,
I agreed, But every time I'm
This is from British caving filmmaker Sid Perou:
The British Cave Library Audio Archive is up and
running.!http://caving-library.org.uk/audio/
There is some great listening - largely thanks to a load of tapes that we
obtained from Geoff Yeadon that were done as research for a book which never
The Karst Information Portal includes the Oral History Project (go to
www.karstportal.org and look under the Resources tab). Six oral histories are
posted so far. As Sid correctly points out, there are lots more that should be
done and done soon. If you are interested in making some possible
This is a fascinating site. Thanks for passing the info on. I must say, I'm not
surprised at the background radiation around the Trinity site, but the spikes
around NBC are a real revelation. Thanks again for the info.
From: william.tuc...@att.net
To: Texascavers@texascavers.com
List-Post:
Looks to me like that spike was in natural Bridge Caverns rather than
around it. He mentions that the gray background elevation data drops out when
he went underground because of the GPS not working then. Same thing for
Carlsbad Sonora. Though Sonora looks relatively radiation free. I'm
At 12:27 PM 2/24/2009, Bill Bentley wrote:
And we have even less rain out in Midland...
A drouth is a relative thing in a place where it never rains anyway.
--Ediger
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texascavers Digest 25 Feb 2009 01:17:39 - Issue 716
Topics (messages 10250 through 10264):
Re: new caving club
10250 by: Fritz Holt
10252 by: Minton, Mark
10255 by: Geary Schindel
10257 by: Bill Bentley
Re: Caving Club at SFA
10251 by: Fritz Holt
At 10:37 AM 2/24/2009, Minton, Mark wrote:
I thought West Texas was everything west of the Pecos and east
Texas was everything east with the exception of Houston which is
considered no-mans land.
You left out Central Texas, where the center of the caving
universe is!
As a trained,
Don't forget the added complexity that truly old maps show the original North
Texas running up to into a region referred to by it Yankee invaders as the
State of Colorado.
~~T
--- On Tue, 2/24/09, Gill Ediger gi...@worldnet.att.net wrote:
Or is that North Texas? It is generally conceded, I
Ah shoot, I'll make it all real simple. If it ain't in Houston, then
its a suburb of Houston ... ; ) ... anybody got another Shinner?
Later, ~F~
At 10:37 AM 2/24/2009, Minton, Mark wrote:
I thought West Texas was everything west of the Pecos and east
Texas was everything east
WTF is a Shinner!?
On Feb 24, 2009, at 7:19 PM, wa5...@peoplepc.com wrote:
Ah shoot, I'll make it all real simple. If it ain't in Houston,
then
its a suburb of Houston ... ; ) ... anybody got another Shinner?
Later, ~F~
A, that dur n key is stickenn
agai now I have another keyboard ... ain't my
fault Shiner - a Texas medicinal fermented carbohydrate
beverage BTW ... H town is still anenxing land, I think the city
limits are getten' close to NYC
For clarification --- I am not a New Mexico transplant, I am a Texan who
went to Grad School in New Mexico and returned to Texas this past fall.
Of course some would question if deep east Texas is really Texas!!
We will see if the students can create a real cave club. Arkansas is as
close as
Hello Kevin, what part of East Texas are you in? I'm originally from
the Paris, TX area, but live in Dallas at this time.
Charles
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 6:49 AM, Kevin W Stafford kwstaff...@juno.com wrote:
For clarification --- I am not a New Mexico transplant, I am a Texan who
went to Grad
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 06:49:15 -0600 kwstaff...@juno.com wrote:
Arkansas is as
close as Deep and Punkin for us here, so there are possibilities for this
group to go caving in either direction.
That makes your location the center of the caving universe.
--
Lyndon Tiu
Charles,
I am in Nacogdoches, where I am teaching in the Geology Department at
Stephen F. Austin State University.
Hopefully, I can get the students actively involved in caving activities
here.
Cheers,
Kevin
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 10:09:37 -0600 Charles Goldsmith
wo...@justfamily.org writes:
Gotcha, there are a few cavers in the Texarkana area (not students),
they aren't real active, they go caving in the Buffalo National River
area once or twice a year. We did have a grotto of sorts for them
back a few years ago, but due to inactivity, it dropped off the NSS
radar. NETCavers
If
And, Kevin was a former Chair-Thang for the UT Grotto!
--- On Tue, 2/24/09, Kevin W Stafford kwstaff...@juno.com wrote:
From: Kevin W Stafford kwstaff...@juno.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] New caving group starting up in East Texas :
To: jerryat...@aol.com
Cc: Texascavers@texascavers.com
At 06:49 AM 2/24/2009, Kevin W Stafford wrote:
Of course we only have sandstone caves here
Maybe you could build a house in it.
--Ediger
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The distance on the Dark Canyon road from highway 137, the Queen road, to the
dirt road going to Manhole, is about 10.5 miles.
jtml
Another comment: Many people coming from the north drive in from
Highway 137 (the road to the Guads), then turn left onto the Dark
Canyon road and
Please pass this request on to any club or regional caver forum you
might be on.
I've got to go back down to Conrado Castillo, Tamaulipas, Mexico
within the next week and probably won't have a chance to return
before the upcoming Spring Break trip leaving the 13th. I need a
rider in the
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