[Texascavers] TPWD park re-openings

2020-04-24 Thread Mark
I’ve received 2 or 3 notices in the last couple of days about the state parks re-opening. All of them indicate that “To help keep parks safe during the pandemic, visitors must bring and wear face coverings, keep a six-foot distance from those outside their group and avoid gathering in groups

Re: [Texascavers] Historical Question

2020-04-24 Thread Carl Kunath
Chris: Is it still your favorite photo despite not being Helmer? ===ck From: Chris Vreeland Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 10:06 PM To: Chris Vreeland Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Historical Question Oh hell, I just got out my book & the photo is of Jack Smith, page

Re: [Texascavers] Historical Question

2020-04-24 Thread Chris Vreeland
Oh hell, I just got out my book & the photo is of Jack Smith, page 504 of 50 Years of Texas Caving - not Helmer. > On Apr 24, 2020, at 9:59 PM, Chris Vreeland wrote: > >  > Kunath’s photo of Helmer titled “May Nothing You Dismay” is probably my > favorite caving photo ever taken. > >>> On

Re: [Texascavers] Historical Question

2020-04-24 Thread Chris Vreeland
Kunath’s photo of Helmer titled “May Nothing You Dismay” is probably my favorite caving photo ever taken. > On Apr 24, 2020, at 4:22 PM, Ron Ralph wrote: > >  > Ross, > > Kunath is indeed the one to talk to about Bill Helmer. Attached is a note > from 1955 in the records of the Texas

Re: [Texascavers] Historical Question Re: Pogo

2020-04-24 Thread Carol W Russell
here you go, logan. carol Carl Kunath via texascavers.com 12:58 PM (4 hours ago) to Cave, seaross50 What about the Pogo cartoon? That’s an obscure question and has caused several rather ill-informed conjectures. Without delving into detail,

Re: [Texascavers] missing messages from Kunath?

2020-04-24 Thread Charles Goldsmith
Click on the link in the footer for the archives : https://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 5:24 PM Logan wrote: > I just called Carl Kunath and he said he sent a message around noonish > today explaining the Pogo/Helmer question. Helmer was not

[Texascavers] missing messages from Kunath?

2020-04-24 Thread Logan
I just called Carl Kunath and he said he sent a message around noonish today explaining the Pogo/Helmer question. Helmer was not involved. I did not get that email, nor possibly several from other folks. I scoured everyplace the email might have landed, but nothing. Cursing, gently turning my

Re: [Texascavers] Historical Question Re: Pogo

2020-04-24 Thread Charles Loving
Up lifting article and story. Thanks for the memories. On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 4:34 PM Katherine Arens wrote: > Jerry asked me to repost! > > > On Apr 24, 2020, at 3:16 PM, Jerry wrote: > > Okay, everybody, > > Here's the cartoon in question in the attached pdf. It's not the best > quality but

Re: [Texascavers] Historical Question

2020-04-24 Thread Ron Ralph
Ross, Kunath is indeed the one to talk to about Bill Helmer. Attached is a note from 1955 in the records of the Texas Speleological Survey that might help somewhat. Ron Ralph, TSS Director From: grub...@centurytel.net Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 7:59 AM To: texascavers Cc:

Re: [Texascavers] Historical Question Re: Pogo

2020-04-24 Thread jerryatkin
I have a copy available if you don’t find it, Carl. Jerry. Sent from my iPhone Jerry Atkinson > On Apr 24, 2020, at 2:08 PM, Carl Kunath wrote: > > I’ll check. > ===ck > > From: Katherine Arens > Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 1:38 PM > To: Texascavers > Cc: searos...@gmail.com > Subject:

Re: [Texascavers] Historical Question Re: Pogo

2020-04-24 Thread Nancy Weaver
and thus it comes (like speludknockers) out of darkness into the light. thanks Jerry Nancy ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/

Re: [Texascavers] Historical Question Re: Pogo

2020-04-24 Thread Carl Kunath
I’ll check. ===ck From: Katherine Arens Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 1:38 PM To: Texascavers Cc: searos...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Historical Question Re: Pogo Carl, the TSS archive is presently in boxes, preparatory for the move. Does someone have a copy of that Reunion

Re: [Texascavers] Historical Question Re: Pogo

2020-04-24 Thread Katherine Arens
Carl, the TSS archive is presently in boxes, preparatory for the move. Does someone have a copy of that Reunion publication that could be pdf’ed and circulated? I could do the work if i could get my hands on it k On Apr 24, 2020, at 12:59 PM, Carl Kunath mailto:carl.kun...@suddenlink.net>>

Re: [Texascavers] Historical Question

2020-04-24 Thread Logan
Hello Ross, Your question about the Pogo strip mentions that Walt Kelly "loved to play with words including spelunking". I once overheard a conversation with a landowner about possible caves on her ranch, and she said "Now what do those people call themselves . . .Spudnuckers?" Kelly would

[Texascavers] Historical Question Re: Pogo

2020-04-24 Thread Carl Kunath
What about the Pogo cartoon? That’s an obscure question and has caused several rather ill-informed conjectures. Without delving into detail, here’s the core of the story: That cartoon was a brief moment of fame for the UT cavers. When the guide book was in preparation for the first UT Grotto

Re: [Texascavers] Historical Question

2020-04-24 Thread Charles Loving
It was 1954/55 many of us were mere babies at the time. The Pogo strips were daily and on Sunday. I searched through a few dozen of them. Knowing a date would be helpful. On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 9:43 AM wrote: > The person I'd ask about Bill Helmer is Gil, or maybe Frank Binney > >

Re: [Texascavers] TEXAS HIGHWAYS July 1980 (corrected)

2020-04-24 Thread Mark Minton
Thanks, Carl! Very nice article. The cover looks familiar. I probably have a hard copy of that somewhere in my collection of old magazine articles on caving, but it's buried in a box in the attic. Mark - From: Texascavers On Behalf Of

Re: [Texascavers] Historical Question

2020-04-24 Thread grubbsi
The person I'd ask about Bill Helmer is Gil, or maybe Frank Binney From: "kara posso" To: "texascavers" , "seaross50" Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 7:48:55 AM Subject: [Texascavers] Historical Question Hello Everyone, Below is a message i received from a fellow through the grotto email

Re: [Texascavers] Historical Question

2020-04-24 Thread James Jasek
Charlie somebody else to contact in Austin a pogo could possibly be Terry Raines I wouldn’t be at all surprised that he has some of those comic strip the only trouble is getting the monetary is not easy and it never was I know you know him or just contact him and see what he has to say he’s on

Re: [Texascavers] Historical Question

2020-04-24 Thread James Jasek
The person right they are living in Austin that you can contact is Terry Raines he’s been caring since he was 16 and I know him he’s a good friend Sent from my iPhoneX > On Apr 24, 2020, at 8:59 AM, James Jasek wrote: > The person to contact for this information and in Texas is Carl Kunath

Re: [Texascavers] Historical Question

2020-04-24 Thread James Jasek
The person to contact for this information and in Texas is Carl Kunath Sent from my iPhoneX > On Apr 24, 2020, at 7:49 AM, kara posso wrote: >  Hello Everyone, Below is a message i received from a fellow through the grotto email the other day. I thought that he would have better luck

Re: [Texascavers] Historical Questionc

2020-04-24 Thread James Jasek
Andy as far as I know Carl Kunath has the negatives with the bill Helmer took Carl wanted me to scan them he said he only had about 100 negatives but when I sign for me they must’ve been for 500 and I just wouldn’t do it so I sent him back to Carl he had some pretty good images some of them

Re: [Texascavers] Historical Question

2020-04-24 Thread Charles Loving
Pogo was a great strip. I will try to find those strips. On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 7:49 AM kara posso wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > Below is a message i received from a fellow through the grotto email the > other day. I thought that he would have better luck solving his mystery > with the help of

Re: [Texascavers] Historical Question

2020-04-24 Thread grubbsi
I think a "person of interest" to look into here is Bill Helmer. He was a UTG caver back about then and he was a cartoonist who did many caver cartoons. See his book "There we was" He went on to have a career at a nationally prominent magazine, Playboy. Even if this is a blind lead you will

[Texascavers] Historical Question

2020-04-24 Thread kara posso
Hello Everyone, Below is a message i received from a fellow through the grotto email the other day. I thought that he would have better luck solving his mystery with the help of all of you since my institutional knowledge does not go back this far. Ross is included on this email, please reply