loved the ending monologue/rant. Hauling tanks back to the entrance on an
aborted dive trip in Honey Creek, thru seeming miles of sucking mud, I grumbled
to myself that I was going to take up knitting.
years later, I did. So there is still hope for the nettlebed explorers.
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yet another gratuitious ugly comment. This is why people get off cavetex.
I cannot imagine what drives this bullying - and it tells me way more about the
person doing it than the rather eccentric, gentle and amusing person being
bullyied.
On Feb 24, 2014, at 8:17 AM, Bill Steele wrote:
I
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Texas Parks and Wildlife will air a show on October 21-27
about using a high-tech method to remove graffiti and restore
pictographs at Hueco Tanks.
so pictographs arent grafitti . . .
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Looking for the Toyota luggage crossbar unit for a 98 RAV 4, 4 door.
I think several years in the vicinity of this one used the same rack.
Anybody who has one they dont want, let me know, to me not cavetex.
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anyone else remember when the gourmet meal during and post caving was
an open unheated can of something, often glugged down without benefit
of the unnecessary weight of a spoon? campbells soup was popular as
well as beanie weanies and god knows whatever other delights.
there is an obvious and common sense answer to this question which is
rarely if ever applied. If asked about the length of ones back yard
I seriously doubt most people would include every traversible foot.
Cavers might tho.
Nancy
David - I for one appreciate your posts and encourage you to
continue. I realize its difficult not to take criticism personally,
however my observation is that those critical people generally have
nothing of value to say and so often ignore their own rules about
whats OK for cavetex that it
Locking tower roof rack. 40 crossbars, fits any vehicle with
appropriate clips available at REI. 3 upright bike mounts and set of
boat supports. Seen plenty of action on many caving trips and still
functional. $100 firm for everything. See in Wimberley.
contact Nancy at 512 847 7422 or
This from my SF friend:
...is a smart idea. You can type evacuation in Google get some
good ideas. (As you may recall I have a Red Cross backpack in my car
in my apartment to help me survive for 3 days if I experience an
earthquake in SF.) I found this list in Wikipedia of items
I'm putting together a suitcase with clothes, passport, necessary
legal papers and leaving it in the car. My friends in San Francisco
call it an earthquake kit, in New Orleans they do it for floods. So
sorry for everyone's losses.
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Thursday Dec 6th Brigit Alexander, her 16 yr old daughter Mimi and
school friend Teresa, and I drove to Real de Catorce for a multiday
celebration of Humberto Fernandez' 70th bday. The drive down was
swift and easy and uneventful. A bit bizarrely, before being allowed
to enter the bridge on
Just returned from a 10 day splendid driving trip from Austin to
Zacatecas. We had a swift friendly crossing at Laredo, an easy drive
on the toll road south. We spent a couple of days in Real de
Catorce, hiking and hanging out with friends then drove to my 72 yr
old companion's casita in the
Texas Parks and Wildlife will air a show on October 21-27
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I think several years in the vicinity of this one used the same rack.
Anybody who has one they dont want, let me know, to me not cavetex.
thanks, Nancy
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anyone else remember when the gourmet meal during and post caving was
an open unheated can of something, often glugged down without benefit
of the unnecessary weight of a spoon? campbells soup was popular as
well as beanie weanies and god knows whatever other delights.
there is an obvious and common sense answer to this question which is
rarely if ever applied. If asked about the length of ones back yard
I seriously doubt most people would include every traversible foot.
Cavers might tho.
Nancy
David - I for one appreciate your posts and encourage you to
continue. I realize its difficult not to take criticism personally,
however my observation is that those critical people generally have
nothing of value to say and so often ignore their own rules about
whats OK for cavetex that it
Locking tower roof rack. 40 crossbars, fits any vehicle with
appropriate clips available at REI. 3 upright bike mounts and set of
boat supports. Seen plenty of action on many caving trips and still
functional. $100 firm for everything. See in Wimberley.
contact Nancy at 512 847 7422 or
This from my SF friend:
...is a smart idea. You can type evacuation in Google get some
good ideas. (As you may recall I have a Red Cross backpack in my car
in my apartment to help me survive for 3 days if I experience an
earthquake in SF.) I found this list in Wikipedia of items
I'm putting together a suitcase with clothes, passport, necessary
legal papers and leaving it in the car. My friends in San Francisco
call it an earthquake kit, in New Orleans they do it for floods. So
sorry for everyone's losses.
I'm glad this festering conversation is finally being aired. For
years now the content police on this list have almost driven me to
unsubscribing; the pleasure I take in other posts and in sharing my
experiences caving or traveling in Mexico keeps me reading. I also
derive enormous humour
Texas Parks and Wildlife will air a show on October 21-27
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Looking for the Toyota luggage crossbar unit for a 98 RAV 4, 4 door.
I think several years in the vicinity of this one used the same rack.
Anybody who has one they dont want, let me know, to me not cavetex.
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anyone else remember when the gourmet meal during and post caving was
an open unheated can of something, often glugged down without benefit
of the unnecessary weight of a spoon? campbells soup was popular as
well as beanie weanies and god knows whatever other delights.
there is an obvious and common sense answer to this question which is
rarely if ever applied. If asked about the length of ones back yard
I seriously doubt most people would include every traversible foot.
Cavers might tho.
Nancy
David - I for one appreciate your posts and encourage you to
continue. I realize its difficult not to take criticism personally,
however my observation is that those critical people generally have
nothing of value to say and so often ignore their own rules about
whats OK for cavetex that it
Locking tower roof rack. 40 crossbars, fits any vehicle with
appropriate clips available at REI. 3 upright bike mounts and set of
boat supports. Seen plenty of action on many caving trips and still
functional. $100 firm for everything. See in Wimberley.
contact Nancy at 512 847 7422 or
This from my SF friend:
...is a smart idea. You can type evacuation in Google get some
good ideas. (As you may recall I have a Red Cross backpack in my car
in my apartment to help me survive for 3 days if I experience an
earthquake in SF.) I found this list in Wikipedia of items
I'm putting together a suitcase with clothes, passport, necessary
legal papers and leaving it in the car. My friends in San Francisco
call it an earthquake kit, in New Orleans they do it for floods. So
sorry for everyone's losses.
Thanks Moni - so few of go to mexico actually able to communicate
with the locals. and it is always fun to get the slang versions of
how people reaally talk.
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I've got papers that expire on the 17th of december. anyone know
what happens if one enters on papers that expire while in Mexico?
and is there a way to cancel here in the US? other wise what is the
procedure?
Nancy
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Hopefully,
he won't be as wacko as the other Craigslist riders that rode north
with me,
ahh David - there are quite a few currently respectable old cavers
still around who were wacko riders on great adventures in the past.
thanks for your descriptions of life on the road. takes me back . .
Chris Nichols and I returned from Real de Catorce on Monday June 28 -
our first time on the newly opened toll road. On the drive down we
noticed that the road cuts were so new that the wire retaining mesh
had not been hung. On the drive back, workers were swarming on the
cliffs setting the
my recollection is that there wasnt particularly. interesting view
of mongolia tho . . .
Of course as the US is the ultimate customer for these drugs and our
insane drug policies have created these cartels, it seems a bit odd
to call it Mexico's problem.
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generally enjoy and often agree with sleazal's posts, AND like most
humans in this last one he presupposes that we humans somehow 'know'
what natural is. as tho nature herself hasnt got a clue how to
revegetate land and habitats destroyed by human previous 'knowing'.
If nature sees fit to
Hi rene - a couple of fun stories from oldtimers . . . I seem to
recall that you arent on cavetex.
cheery spring, Nance
The following article about the Jumar and the man who invented them
appeared in the Fall 1970 issue of the Southwest Texas State
University Grotto Newsletter.
for sending to whole list. If you missed those stories the first
time around they are worth reading.
Nancy
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For
This may be of some interest to those cavers who used to visit the El
Abra - its an exchange about mala mujer with the amazing naturalist
Jim Conrad who lives parttime in Mexico ( his very worthwhile
newsletter available free! digitally!! at
naturalist_newslet...@backyardnature.net - thank you
There were some ants in South Texas that made underground nests
which humped up above ground (sorta like fireant mounds except 10x
bigger) and which created large subsurface voids. On more than one
occasion we were unlucky enough to drive over these mounds hidden by
tall pasture grass and
When I think of the fun I had when I was a kid doing things that are
now illegal -- Mixon
Really. My dad used to let the 3 of us (ages 3 - 9) ride all over
Rockport on the tailgate of the station wagon holding onto whatever
we could find. Thank god for growing up in the 50's.
Everyone is invited to celebrate with the friends and family of Ed
Alexander. Allow plenty of time to reach Flat Rock by 11 am, drop
off your potluck dish at the lodge and then drive down to the caver
reunion site. A formal ceremony and music will begin promptly at
noon.
Nancy
Edward
Everyone is invited to celebrate with the friends and family of Ed
Alexander. Allow plenty of time to reach Flat Rock by 11 am, drop
off your potluck dish at the lodge and then drive down to the caver
reunion site. A formal ceremony and music will begin promptly at
noon.
Nancy
Edward
well not having read the article, only the intriguing title - I must
say I've always entertained a Gary Larson like picture of doves,
javelinas, deer, elk, moose, buffalo, squirrels etc armed with high
velocity rifles.
Everyone is invited to celebrate with the friends and family of Ed
Alexander. Allow plenty of time to reach Flat Rock by 11 am, drop
off your potluck dish at the lodge and then drive down to the caver
reunion site. A formal ceremony and music will begin promptly at
noon.
Nancy
Edward
48 inch rooftop Yakima rack available with 3 locking jaw mount bike
racks. Some parts old, not very pretty and still strong and
functional, survivors of many 4wd trips to Mexico. Some parts brand
new. Kit and caboodle for 90$ - about 400$ brand new.
call or email
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the towers and crossbars are taken - 3 yakima jaw mount bike racks
available, call or email. great for cave recon.
Nancy
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For the past 6 months I've written to cajole, harrangue and generally
beat the bushes for volunteers for ICS. Well all of you came through
spectacularly to create an event that every participant I spoke with
had nothing but praise for. There were those of you that worked
round the clock, and
We are all texas cavers as far as I'm concerned.
Nancy
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please contact me off post.
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If you're not on Facebook, try this link:
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Vacation is more precious than money
Many places will not let one take time off without pay.
Maybe the question is - whose life is this anyway and what am I
willing to trade for it?
Nnacy
Wow - I have had a broken leg ever since I got home! I thought it
was from a bad fall 2 months earlier but now I'm thinking it was ICS.
Nance
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I don't know if it is true but I have heard that ounce for ounce,
moccasin venom is more dangerous than our other pit vipers. Something
to do with different properties in their venom.
dont know about that, but a friend was struck on a dry path at a
state park 3 weeks ago and the anti venin,
Hey Nancy,
I will be coming in on Saturday and Sunday to help. Who do I talk to
and what do I do?
We will (hopefully) have an up to date list of volunteer needs at
INFO each day, and get folks who wish to help connected with a task
that they are interested in. Also I'm certain that any
?
feel free to email me and I'll put you in touch with a way to use all
this excess time and energy!
Nancy
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How on earth have bats managed to survive so long without thoughtful
human intervention? Or any other part of nature? Good thing we can
now remedy nature's poor planning. I wonder what the displacement
factor in the production of the heater boxes is - ie how many bats or
habitat does it
friends to be part
of the excitement.
Nancy Weaver
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PS: While this message is aimed at Texas cavers and grottos, the
invitation is open to any caver and grotto that wants to help. Please
post or forward this message to any one or list you think is
interested.
Title: Danish researcher finds nanothermite in 9/11 dust/
sorta r
since many cavers have a piercing
interest in explosives, thought this would be appropriate
This is a translation of an
interviewdone on Danish TV on April 6thwith Dr.Niels
Harrit, aresearch chemist (see reference to
CALLING ALL MD'S, EMTS OR GENERALLY KNOWLEDGABLE FIRST AID TYPES.
ICS NEEDS HELP KEEPING A FIRST AID STATION OPEN 24/7 DURING THE CONGRESS
Please contact Nancy Weaver nan...@io.com or Bob Cowell
bcow...@satx.rr.com if you can help with some shifts at the first aid
station. We
Just returned from another delightful week in Mexico, where the only
trouble seems to be how much of a good time to have. I have always
felt safe, hitchhiking (years ago) as a single woman, taking buses or
driving, visiting friends in cities or caving in remote areas. I
have also always felt
and of course the illegal drug activities and the profits of the
groups that benefit could be cut to zero by simply making marijuana
and meth legal. voila, just like prohibition - the same number would
use the product, however no crimes or vast criminal organizations
would flourish.
way too
Title: Shaping Sound
thought the Maya references might be of
interest. The link to the entire article is provided.
Along these lines, I watched of a video of
some friends climbing out of Golondrinas last night. One of them
was singing Amazing Grace around the midpoint and the reverb was
this may interest the many who think about 'mobility miles'
Nancy
December 10, 2008
Op-Ed Columnist
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/10/opinion/10friedman.html?hphttp://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/10/opinion/10friedman.html?hp
While Detroit Slept
By
Ron - you will likely provoke a firestorm with this - of the wrong
sort, so let me hurry to thank you for posting it. This is probably
the most important crossroads for the US, whether we let go of all
other concerns (like how old graffitti is) and pay attention to the
massive theft of our
It seems so sad to me that such a drop dead gorgeous photo should be
dissected in terms of how it was taken. Is anyone just enjoying it?
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The thing that gets to me is how in white history texts, the word
massacre is used to describe ay event in which whites were killed
by indians, and the word battle is used to describe any event
dear Chris - it doesnt stop there. You may notice that 'terrorists'
blow up americans, and
One passenger side electronic telescoping rear view mirror, should
fit any Ford 250 or 350 truck. Custom conversion upgrade. Brand new
still in bubble wrap. 175$ retail, will sell for 125$.
contact by phone or email
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highly recommended, thought provoking mirror of just how we might be
burying ourselves in stuff and stuffing our selves into obsolescence.
A disturbing number of patrons at the show I attended looked just
like the future.
and it was heartwarming to imagine Stone's robotprobe as the
whimsical
that's really wierd!
Apparently it is above the water table.
It otherwise seems that it would fill up with water.
-WaV
there is a fascinating place in Honey Creek at the end of the grand
finale. there is a circular swimming pool room perhaps 12 feet
across (been a long time, could be way
A popular theory of speleogenesis in the seventeenth and
eighteenth centuries was that caves were eroded when the water of
the flood came from within the earth and/or when it drained back
into it.
If one isnt utterly literal - that explanation would certainly jibe
with my understanding of
Saturday July 19th $25
Cave Without a Name
Women's Peace Ceremony Concert
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Gingras on Percussion
I always thought a concert there
would be cool, guess I'll never know.
There are two concerts as posted in the first message. The second is
open to all 3 genders.
Saturday September 20th 7PM $25
Equinox Cave Ceremony
Paul Hubbert on Vocals and Crystal Bowls
Roberts on
REALLY COOL THINGS TO DO BEFORE, DURING AND AFTER
THE INTERNATIONAL CONGRESS OF SPELEOLOGY
Ever wanted to learn how to set up water lines and showers, how to
build a portable party hot tub or a foot bridge? Ever wanted to
learn how to run audio/visual equipment? Or maybe how to organize
Productive Controlled Hysteria -- I see it in our future...
thats interesting, I see it in my past and present
Nancy
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swimming and
boating stretches and caters to mountain biking, rock climbing and
challenge course events. Camp personnel were excited about finding a small
cave on the land and rumours of others and issued a Texas wide
invitation to cavers to come explore and ridge walk.
Rene Shields, Nancy Weaver, Scott
As always, if some of these appeal to you, contact the coordinator
directly, or you can get in touch with me for further info -
Nancy Weaver
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Joe Mitchelljoemitch...@satx.rr.com Coordinator for
Cultural and Family Trips
Hey
contact data, your interests and your
availability pre and during the congress/convention and we will put
all that energy to good use.
please remember to post to me directly, not the whole list.
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Thanks all - within 4 hours of posting the volunteer call, I heard
from 6 people. 5 of them are already either chairing committees or
running trips, helping with guidebooks etc. 1 was a woman from New
Mexico who gave me her contact info for future reference when we know
just what volunteer
please contact me off list. thanks
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Upon hearing that I just completed a yoga teacher training course,
Jocie Hooper asked me to consider leading a half day women's yoga,
meditation and vision quest journaling retreat at my home in
Driftwood. She was so enthusiastic that I have decided to schedule
one for either a saturday or
please contact me off list re ICS volunteering. I've got the wrong
email address for you.
thanks,
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so how do you know someone 'didnt' go back with a contemporary computer?
hmmm
Nance
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I echo the observations of other respondents who say that with the
billions of dollars that this project is to cost, results could best
be achieved
or even by putting the money into the mexican economy and creating a
livable life for them at home. what a concept. using millions to
make
Boeing gets the money - who does the work?
Lyndon Tiu asked: Question: Who are they hiring to build the fence?
Didn't you read the article? First paragraph says:
Amid a strong warning from Congress, the Homeland Security
Department last week conditionally accepted delivery of the first
Yesterday I went digging. A friend came and picked me up and off we
went to one of those ubiquitous oversized subdivisions where the city
pushes hungrily against former ranch and pasturelands. We walked
through the upscale 'backyard' zone, with barking dog and chiminea to
the liveoak that
someone mentioned to me a trivial pursuit question regarding what
mammal lives in caves? the answer of course is bats . . . which
got me to wondering if bats habitually live any further into a cave
than the bears, cats etc which use caves as dens. I've personally
seen evidence of mice
Lots of nice responses, thanks all. The consensus would appear to be
that a great variety of mammals (and others) utilize caves to an
equal extent as bats. And that all use the cave as a dwelling rather
than a habitat. I'd surmise that the examples found 'way back into
the cave' are
It was the dregs of December. That time when days are short and rich
food and lavish drink become an ordeal rather than a treat. One cold
windy grey cabin feverish afternoon I wrestled on layers of stained
torn clothes and called - Guy Noir, subterranean investigator. Get
me outta here
Brian - good luck and thanks for taking the time to attempt to
respond to the scientist fundamentalists. I doubt it will do much
(any) good, but who knows and you are young and energetic. I'm
fairly sure that polarity is not the answer and that evolution and
god exist quite comfortably in a
I think I finally understand.
Plastic bags and global warming are off topic,
Describing why they are off topic is on topic.
If I disagree with you it is off topic.
If I agree with you, it is on topic.
If you agree with me, it is really really on topic.
And poking fun at inconsistencies
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