cs EPSG:25830
copyright 2018 "Matienzo Caving Expeditions"
#Date ranges for survey trips
date 1974.08.01 #Earliest date (estimated)
date 2018.04.01 #Latest date
#Survey teams
team "Paul_'Footleg' Fretwell"
team "Paul Dold"
explo-date 1974.08.01 #Earliest date (es
to be drawn up still.
Footleg
On Wed, Jun 29, 2022 at 6:10 PM Wookey wrote:
> Has anyone done any work on the task of converting existing Tunnel
> sketches (xml) to therion .th2 files?
>
> CUCC (Cambridge Loser expeditions: https://expo.survex.com) has a huge
> investment of
Nice. I had not thought to join all the line points like that. I'll bear
that in mind next time I have a particularly tricky join.
Footleg
On Fri, 10 May 2019 at 14:39, Tarquin Wilton-Jones via Therion <
therion@speleo.sk> wrote:
> On 10/05/2019 14:28, Footleg wrote:
> > If
line of the pit in the upper scrap, as any overlap will be hidden.
Footleg
On Fri, 10 May 2019 at 13:51, Tarquin Wilton-Jones via Therion <
therion@speleo.sk> wrote:
> > So if you
> > need to join them to keep them aligned you have to specify the exact
> > line points t
'join' the scraps automatically now as neither will have an
opening in the outline at the pit now. So if you need to join them to keep
them aligned you have to specify the exact line points to join to pin the
points at either end of the curved lines to each other in the pair of
scraps.
Footleg
You might also find the Cave Converter tool I wrote of some use. It doesn't
convert to Therion, but it can read Compass.dat and convert to Survex. The
survex files are not too difficult to then convert into Therion in a text
editor:
http://wscc.darkgem.com/caveconverter/
Footleg
On Mon, 7 Jan
.
Footleg
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The correct way to average bearings is to the treat them as vectors, then
average the x and y components separately before converting the resulting
vector back to a bearing. It is likely this is what the trig functions
mentioned in this thread are doing.
Footleg
On Fri, 18 May 2018 at 12:57
by survey
data).
Footleg
On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 2:27 PM Bill Gee via Therion <therion@speleo.sk>
wrote:
> Hello everyone -
>
>
>
> Well, that turned out to be easy! I was fearing a huge conglomerated mess
> of entries in a thconfig and *.th file. It turned out to be some
.
Footleg
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From: Jarvist Moore Frost
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2018 00:07
Subject: Re: Aven in stereoscopic 3D
To: Pedro Silva Pinto
Cc: sur...@survex.com <sur...@survex.com>
Perhaps easiest is to extract the data & use with a more mainstream viewer.
I
scrap backgrounds by altitude. The water area fill is always blue in my
layout so it hides the contrast between adjoining scrap colours (circled in
red in attached graphic).
Footleg
[image: ScrapJoinHiddenByWater.png]
On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 8:22 PM Martin Sluka via Therion <therion@speleo.sk>
project in that catchment is Swildons. So if you want to see how I
include it in a Therion project just download the data set and process the
thconfig-swildons_ent Therion project file in the Swildons folder.
Footleg
On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 11:36 PM Wookey via Therion <therion@speleo.sk>
update them to
reflect the latest release.
Footleg
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I have yet to meet a Therion user who knows another Therion user who they
share a computer with. So I would be happy with install for Current user
only.
Footleg
On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 1:15 PM Владимир Георгиев via Therion <
therion@speleo.sk> wrote:
> Yes, the location is flexible
page to accept the default install under Program Files.
Footleg
On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 9:28 AM Bruce Mutton via Therion <therion@speleo.sk>
wrote:
> It is outside of my area of expertise, however:
>
>- No 1 seems dangerous, at the whim of future MS updates and there
the namespace using search and replace in a plain
text editor.
It would be good to add an analysis of the pros and cons of each structure
to your document, covering how they handle the imperfect structure of real
world data.
Footleg
On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 12:38 PM Vasily Vl. Suhachev via Therion
map.
Footleg
On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 6:04 PM Владимир Георгиев via Therion <
therion@speleo.sk> wrote:
> There is also a "min-symbol-scale" option in layout, which hides smaller
> symbols. It might work similar to what you are doing in the font_setup
> metapost.
> You
Possibly your walls are inside out. Do the walls appear and vanish as you
rotate the model? That is a sure sign some of your scrap boundaries are not
right. Common causes are the insides of loops not flagged as outline in, or
walls which cross other walls.
Footleg
On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 3:34 PM
aligned with the plane of the elevation
slice I will have to distort the drawings in the X dimension only to match
the approximate station spacing in the projection, then load these as PNG
background sketches and place the stations by hand. I'll report back on how
I get on.
Footleg
Same as Bruce (but on Windows 7). Edit line context menu items work for me
(e.g. Convert to Curve when clicking on a line makes all the nodes smooth
curves).
Footleg
On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 5:22 AM Bruce Mutton via Therion <therion@speleo.sk>
wrote:
> I cannot duplicate thi
les. I am working on adding direct Therion export (and import)
next.
Footleg
On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 2:50 PM Martin Sluka via Therion <therion@speleo.sk>
wrote:
> Anyway, you may use Survex and .3d file exported from Therion:
>
> 3dtopos - name of utulity
>
> 3dtopos — produc
think both
should be 0.125 right?
Footleg
On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 10:17 PM Benedikt Hallinger <b...@hallinger.org>
wrote:
> Hello,
>
> for a recent project i made a grades file (based on the BCRE-example in
> therion distribution) for UISv1 specifications (see attac
Or you could convert the Compass DAT file back to metric using my Cave
Converter utility which reads Compass format now.
http://wscc.darkgem.com/caveconverter/
Footleg
On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 11:12 AM Graham Mullan
wrote:
> Bruce wrote:
>
> "Also notice you have added a link to
the colours do not keep changing as I draw more scraps. I try hard to hide
my scrap borders with pitch or floor step lines, Or under water area fills.
I've attached an example.
Footleg
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laptop (or in a virtual machine running on the same laptop) then it
rendered fine. But using the native OS on the laptop directly (I think it
was an ATI graphics chipset) just rendered a plain grey overlap.
Footleg
On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 9:05 AM Martin Sluka wrote:
> It is very strange. G
) because
PocketTopo saves temporary backup files to any memory cards in the PDA
during use. I think these get cleaned up when you save the project, but a
recovery utility may find the files still there.
Footleg
On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 12:04 PM Andrew Atkinson
wrote:
> Yep, I could not find it, o
into one file by doing
something like this:
select
export
select
export
As I understand this now, this still would not work as I intended. But it
would generate two PDFs both containing both map1 and map2 right?
Footleg
On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 6:47 AM Bruce wrote:
> Footleg
>
> Had a q
I tried this in my team list:team [text Paul/"Footleg"] notes
but it appears in the PDF as:text Paul .Footleg.,
It is the double quotes appearing as . which puzzles me. Is this a language
setting problem?
Footleg
On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 10:25 AM ÐÐ»Ð°Ð´Ð¸Ð¼Ð¸Ñ ÐеÐ
team "Tim/'The Beast' Bloggs" dog
put him at the start of the list as the ' character is sorted ahead of A.
I've put this into the Tutorial. Does anyone know how to include
double-quotes in a name? I can't seem to escape the double-quote character.
Footleg
On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 12:34 A
?
Convert to curve is a good one. I'll find a place to add that in as I've
seen a few people struggle with drawing beziers directly when we run out
training courses.
Thanks,
Footleg
On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 3:34 PM Martin Sluka wrote:
> Hi Footleg,
>
> you don't show using right click with m
of
associated scrap.
Footleg
On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 6:21 PM Bruce Mutton wrote:
> I use colour by scrap quite often as a drawing aid. Random is fine for
> that. Colour by map would be the more useful to be able to specify for
> 'finished presentations'.
>
> Colour by map has
that if is not coded into the drawings of the scraps
themselves. Perhaps a syntax to let you specify as follows:
colour
Am I missing a way to do this in the existing release?
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Confirmed with a quick test that I could reproduce that problem with the
old version, and that I don't see the issue with this latest compiled .tcl
file. I'm trying this out for some drawing up so I'll let you know whether
I find any other issues.
Footleg
On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 8:05 PM ÐлаÐ
the orientation (without having to select them as currently) that
would be another step forwards.
Great stuff, thank you!
Footleg
On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 11:50 AM ÐÐ»Ð°Ð´Ð¸Ð¼Ð¸Ñ ÐеоÑгиев
wrote:
> Hi all
>
> There are some modifications that I made to the XTherion
I've not looked into the features of Therion for including bitmaps in the
PDF output. So much still to learn!
Footleg
On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 2:05 PM Martin Sluka wrote:
> Choice of software:
>
> I am aware that Zoomify does this sort of thing too. But I chose krpano
> viewer as I
(as example here which has hotspot links to other caves if you want
to explore a bit http://wscc.darkgem.com/footleg/pano/Risco.html )
How the composite map was produced:
The presentation was generated from one very high resolution bitmap image
which I assembled from various bitmaps of the different surveys
data over 40 years, featuring 'pencil and graph paper',
'ink on tracing paper', 'offlet litho printed', Tunnel and Therion software
drawings.
http://wscc.darkgem.com/matienzo/4valleys/
This format should work on all mobile devices and web browsers on computers.
Footleg
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cave will be rendered entirely in the green to red colour range.
Footleg
On Thu, 10 Dec 2015 18:28 Andrew Atkinson wrote:
> .
> > >
> > > Anyone know where the palette is defined?
> >
> > I think this is an outstanding wishlist item. i.e. there is n
I have just put an updated draft of my Therion Tutorial online (link on the
Therion wiki), or click here: http://wscc.darkgem.com/footleg/therion/
I've completed lessons on area fills, and tackled the much more complex
topic of how to structure your data for a project which is more than one
scrap
there is more to learn which can then be added to the topic if you start a
wiki page for this.
Footleg
On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 6:00 PM Martin Sluka wrote:
> Therion and 3D
>
> Therion is able to export 3D model in format .lox based on LRUD data,
> shape of walls in plan and pa
(Actually you only need to check out the
http://cave-registry.org.uk/svn/MatienzoCaves/5Valleys/Therion%20Drawings/
folder
to get the complete Therion project)
Footleg
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 5:27 PM Footleg wrote:
> Hi Jenny,
>
> I have a project where I do this. I think I copied the
can check it out from
the UK cave registry svn here:
http://cave-registry.org.uk/svn/MatienzoCaves/5Valleys
This particular project is part of a much larger one (the entire 5
valleys). You want to process the thconfig-carcavuezo project in the
folder 5Valleys\Therion Drawings\0081_Carcavuez
I see this problem with some graphics cards (on Windows computers). The
same Loch file viewed on another computer (or on a VM running on the
computer where I see the problem) shows the graphic overlay fine. So it is
likely a display driver problem.
Footleg
On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 7:27 PM Dr
on the trip where a discovery was made.
Footleg
On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 9:13 PM Andrew Atkinson wrote:
> I have a asus vivo tab/not 8 tablet, which I just find too big for cave
> surveying, which I feel will be a problem with the one below. I think
> that you need to be able to hold it on
since March (I took a break to actually do some survey drawing up)
so rather than sit on this longer, I have posted a link to the current
draft on the Documentation section of the wiki. Or you can find it directly
from this link: http://wscc.darkgem.com/footleg/therion/
I would welcome any feedback
and caving hut expenses of trainers).
Footleg
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Footleg
On 17 February 2015 at 14:50, Martin Sluka wrote:
>
> > 17. 2. 2015 v 13:34, Graham Mullan :
> >
> > One always has to remember, however, that Compass natively stores all
> linear
> > measurements in feet and decimal feet, n
We had problems on a recent training course getting Therion installed on
one XP laptop. It turned out in that case that service pack 3 had not been
installed. So that is one thing to check.
Paul
On 15 Feb 2015 17:26, "Nick Bairstow" wrote:
> Hi, I just re-installed XP Pro on a laptop, updated
an talking about.
Details can be found here for those who are interested:
http://wscc.darkgem.com/caveconverter/
Footleg
On 26 January 2015 at 15:19, Beat Heeb wrote:
> The â<â character after the trip number means the extended elevation runs
> to the left.
>
> Without the ch
een
the trip number [1] and the comment in double quotes. I've not seen this in
any text files exported before, and I need to know what it indicates so I
can update the parser in my cave converter program.
Footleg
On 25 Jan 2015 22:05, "Beat Heeb" wrote:
> The direction used for the ex
marily by the station names in the From and To columns. So I am not
clear what this menu item does or when I might want or need to use it?
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How can I get around this limitation?
Footleg
On 8 January 2015 at 10:28, Footleg wrote:
> I see it too now. I have not realised you could include j
assumed I could only see survey
sections which were drawn in scraps. I can see how it is useful to be
able to render centrelines and stations for the entire system
regardless.
Footleg
On 7 January 2015 at 18:41, Bruce wrote:
>>Or maybe I am not understanding what you mean by inc
://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php/contrib:externaleditors#notepad
Footleg
On 15 January 2013 at 19:41, Bruce wrote:
>> I find having multiple thconfig files open so I can compile different
> parts of my large cave system project very useful.
>
> Nice
> My usual mode of worki
'. If I comment that out in my layout then the centreline is drawn in
the map, but my altitude range still covers only the range of my scraps.
Footleg
On 5 January 2015 at 22:40, Bruce wrote:
> OK, the problem is not the previews or the offsets, as it occurs in the
> map examples
areas of the cave get coloured with very different scrap
colours due to the small altitude range of the scraps in the map.
Footleg
On 5 January 2015 at 22:40, Bruce wrote:
> OK, the problem is not the previews or the offsets, as it occurs in the
> map examples below regardless of pr
in
the input survex file are ignored and not output in the output file. But
new passage data is generated from any splays if you specified the lrud
argument on the command line.
Footleg
On 3 Dec 2014 00:50, "Mark Brown" wrote:
> Hi chaps
>
> I've got some data that is Therion, whic
A search on ebay for 'dell axim pda x51v' with the 'sold items' and
under £30 filters showed that several sold for that price in the past
few weeks. So certainly these come up regularly and sell for a
reasonable price in the UK. Just keep watching out and one will come
up.
Footleg
On 14 October
with PocketTopo. But I understand there is a
Palm OS emulator for Android (not free though) which enables Auriga to
run on Android devices. Has anyone on this list tried Auriga, and if
so have you looked at running it on Android?
Footleg
On 12 October 2014 22:46, Martin Sluka wrote:
> With A
window open and each time I recompile
my project the PDF display refreshes automatically which is really
handy.
Footleg
On 22 September 2014 17:48, Xavier Pennec wrote:
> Hi Stacho,
>
> It also looks to me as if there is a lock on some file. It is apparently
> happening during th
now appears in the wrong
place.
The other files show various ways of including both caves, and they
are rendered always with one in the correct place and one in the wrong
place.
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in the correct place, and the second is
positioned using the cs of the first one.
The same in a lox model file (except I cannot confirm which is correct, but
I see them in different places when I give them the same entrance location
to test this).
Footleg
On 19 Sep 2014 14:33, "Andrew Atkinson&qu
. Then I discovered that if I include a survey in
the old cs with one using the new cs then Therion appears to treat
both caves as having the same cs. Whichever cs is used by the first
included cave is applied to subsequent caves too. Is there a way to
deal with this?
Footleg
different
the results of these two averaging methods can be.
Footleg
On 8 September 2014 19:47, Bill Gee wrote:
> Hello everyone -
>
> I did some skull time on this problem. I have an idea that might work. Many
> numbers need to be run on this to prove that it works in all cases.
not the only one.
Footleg
On 9 July 2014 06:47, Jenny Black wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Sorry, I should have replied sooner. You are both right of course, the
> symbols are the same size. It was an optical illusion due to the shape of
> some of the area fills in the original survey
> (http://expo.sur
If you generate kml output then you can read the lat-lon for any station
from that.
If you generate survex 3d output then you can read the coordinates of any
station in the Aven viewer (part of the Survex install) in the grid
coordinate system you defined for the data.
Footleg
On 3 June 2014 07
I would certainly suggest that some sort of diveline symbol is used, as
that is really what you are wanting to indicate. Then you can turn off all
survey lines (which just happen to correspond to the dive line position in
this case).
Footleg
On 20 May 2014 22:24, "Steve Clark&qu
which sorted splays into groups for L,R,U,D
measurements in this reader).
Bug reports and requests to support other formats always welcomed.
Enjoy!
Footleg
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batteries which can run them for around 24
hours continuous use. I use an Aquapac case to waterproof the PDA. Others
prefer rigid boxes (Otterbox?).
Footleg
On 11 April 2014 15:45, Markus Boldt wrote:
> Hello,
> has anyone a list of PDA mobiles, which are able to work PocketTopo? I
> have an A
is too long. That
way I could put my labels on long lines and not see them stretched too much
at more detailed scale rendering (1:1000), but have them shrink to stay
within the bounds of the line ends when rendering at much less detailed
scales (1:5000).
Footleg
On 4 March 2014 06:29, Bruce wrote
to be
excessively large and run over the cave passage, but at scales where
smaller text scales are set it is not stretched out so much along the line.
Is something like this possible?
Footleg
On 3 March 2014 18:56, Bruce wrote:
> Footleg
>
> This was one of my early challenges shortly after di
now rather than
actually drawing anything new to be sure I have things working in my scraps
properly before I spend a load of time drawing up a load more.
Footleg
On 3 March 2014 18:56, Bruce wrote:
> Footleg
>
> This was one of my early challenges shortly after discoverin
you drew against for that
drawing and let Therion distort the survey to match the updated centreline
when you render the maps.
Footleg
On 25 February 2014 18:11, Tomek Chojnacki wrote:
> Hi,
>
> After I closed a loop in a cave the background image (centerline from
> xvi file) chan
I have been using Therion on Windows 7 over several recent versions
including the very recent release and not seen this problem. I am running
under a user account which has administrator privileges which might make a
difference?
Footleg
On 25 February 2014 12:29, Markus Boldt wrote:
>
Is this a short term need Graham? I've been planning to add Compass format
reading/writing and Therion writing to me cave data converter for a while.
It might be another while before I get it done, but it is useful to know
what there is a need for as it helps me chose what to prioritise.
Footleg
is for projects where
you import an already generated 3d file into the Therion project to define
the survey centreline (e.g. Within the 'survey' block: import
West_Kingsdale_System.3d -surveys use -cs OSGB:SD )
Footleg
On 15 January 2014 17:46, Bruce wrote:
> Graham
>
> The Windows
to do this
for my main project:
"C:\Program Files (x86)\Survex\cavern.exe" -v7 mycavedata.svx
Other more technical solutions may enable Therion to read the newer format
3D files (I expect Wookey is already typing something about the Debian
version as I write this!)
Footleg
On 15 January
overlapping areas is now in a zip file linked from the end of that section
on the wiki:
http://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php/contrib:externalviewers#examples_of_rendering_differences_between_pdf_viewers
Footleg
On 15 December 2013 22:57, Footleg wrote:
> Ah, that makes much more sense. I
Ah, that makes much more sense. I'll see if I can find the once from my
examples. They will be somewhere as I never delete anything!
Footleg
On 15 December 2013 21:54, Wookey wrote:
> [bloody top-posters - rearranging to make sense]
>
> Footleg [2013-12-15 21:29 +] wrote:
> &g
.
It was the differences in the PDF viewers which the renders illustrate,
rather than differences in Therion builds. I would expect the current
latest release of Therion renders exactly the same PDFs.
Footleg
On 15 December 2013 19:30, Bruce wrote:
>
> http://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/do
and put on the
wiki by me, so I knew how things looked. I just did not know why the Adobe
Reader rendered them like that before.
Footleg
On 14 December 2013 21:28, Martin Sluka wrote:
> Footleg, read, please, that f⦠wiki first :). There is exact analysis of
> this problem and it
them. Try drawing a border line though the area of boulders but under them
in the scrap ordering. I bet one pdf will show the line under the boulders
and the other will not.
Footleg
On 13 Dec 2013 15:12, "Graham Mullan" wrote:
> I have just noticed that Adobe Acrobat and the (unname
window automatically, making for a much smoother workflow.
Footleg
On 4 December 2013 10:07, Footleg wrote:
> I have been using most of those applications on Windows 7 on both 32bit
> and 64bit machines with no problems for several years. My recent upgrade of
> a laptop to Windows 8
fixed both those issues for me (an some other graphics rendering
applications which had the same issue of crashing on launch). So now I am
seeing no issues with any of these applications on Windows 8.1 (32 bit) on
the laptop.
Footleg
On 4 December 2013 07:26, Bruce wrote:
> Iâm staring d
That should have said 'not used in any fix or leg'
On 30 Nov 2013 09:53, "Footleg" wrote:
> Does the log file contain a warning? I thought that it was using Survex
> under the hood, and that warns of stations referred to but not used in and
> fix or leg.
> On 29 Nov 2013
Does the log file contain a warning? I thought that it was using Survex
under the hood, and that warns of stations referred to but not used in and
fix or leg.
On 29 Nov 2013 20:07, "Bruce" wrote:
> This may have been raised before.
>
>
>
> If a typing error is made in a station equate
.
Footleg
On 11 October 2013 19:37, Wookey wrote:
> +++ Footleg [2013-10-11 08:24 +0100]:
>>I used the vrml export from Loch to produce a 3D model file which was
>>suitable to get 3D printed. The article about it (written by Mike Bedford,
>>who got the printing d
legs, export as splays) or just to help
visualise data errors better (I have not started on data visualisation
yet, but have been thinking about it for a while).
Footleg
On 29 August 2013 12:12, John Stevens wrote:
> Export oddities from PocketTopo to Therion
>
> A while back, I noted th
down
the operation, and if it was to fail for some reason (like an error in
the SQL script) then you can just drop and recreate the tables to
reset the database ready to try again.
Footleg
On 24 July 2013 21:18, Andrew Atkinson wrote:
> Hello
>
> I have just been playing with the export
A very useful account of the various options Bruce. Well worth adding to
the wiki!
I will experiment with some of my caves were I have LRUD data but have not
entered it into Therion to see if I can improve my models.
Footleg
On 20 July 2013 23:12, Bruce wrote:
> **
>
> Footleg*
to improve passage dimensions in models viewed in Loch. I'll find
you a compelling reason to use this tool yet Bruce!
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in the altitude of the resurgence and of the
upstream end of the sump (determined by survey data from an entrance)?
My data shows a significant difference, but I do not know how much of
that difference might be expected and how much is due to errors in the
dry passage survey and entrance altitudes?
Footleg
That is why I posted the data inline as plain text. But that was bounced as
my message exceeded 40KB. Yet my attachment is only 7 KB.
On 17 Jun 2013 19:05, "Wookey" wrote:
> +++ Footleg [2013-06-17 18:45 +0100]:
> >This is a Survex issue but may also be of interest
This is a Survex issue but may also be of interest to this list. Plus the
Survex list does not accept my 7 KB of data as it says my post is too big.
Posting the data here for lack of a capable list for Survex.
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spent much more time working out
how best to do things than actually drawing anything yet, as I want to be
sure I am doing it right before spending the next few years drawing!
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he section was written. So I've added a tip on getting data
off PDA via memory card, and a link to Andrew's TopParser application to
this wiki page:
http://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php/paperless#data_transfer_from_pockettopo_to_therion
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Thanks Bruce, I just spotted this as I added a second piece of line label
text and it came out a different size to the previous line label. It
appears that the text resizes to fit the length of the line. So the only
way to be certain of the size of the text is to use point labels.
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size text whether I am placing it using a
label or a line?
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' or 'Colour by Error' in Aven then none of my data appears to be
counted as being in loops or having dates associated with it. Is this a
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series (i.e. Not joined at the
start or end of either series).
Same place as usual for the download:
http://wscc.darkgem.com/caveconverter/
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