Re: [tw5] Re: A basket on the sidebar

2021-05-09 Thread TW Tones
Further feature extensions; - The ability to build cumulative json tiddlers or plugins. - A Cumulative plugin would allow you to drop titles on a basket, click to create a plugin. then add additional tiddlers and update it, and update the plugin with all edited tiddlers. -

Re: [tw5] Re: Missing transcluded tiddlers question

2021-05-09 Thread TW Tones
FYI neocities is a Hosting site. In the past I have seen it blocked because one of those sites is up to nefarious activities. It should be blocking with regards to the subdomains not the top domain but some blacklisting does not take account of this. Tones On Monday, 10 May 2021 at 11:01:47

[tw5] [Announcement] Sydney TWIG - TiddlyWiki Interest Group

2021-05-09 Thread TW Tones
Folks, I just want to let you know I have just invested in Meetup and Zoom accounts to start a Sydney TWIG - TiddlyWiki Interest Group. Of course if you can bear our +10 GMT meeting times anyone is welcome. I would also love

Re: [tw5] Re: A basket on the sidebar

2021-05-09 Thread TW Tones
Gentlemen, Simply leveraging the idea of the basket, I am exploring a set of related methods to extend its functionality. Behind this is a desire to make lists of tiddlers a first class citizen in tiddlywiki. My time is limited but I hope to see or design myself if no one else does. -

[tw5] Re: Can ordinary tiddlers be made into shadow tiddlers?

2021-05-09 Thread TW Tones
Anjar, Shadow tiddlers is quite a big subject since it relates to a large part of the core, plugins etc... I do personally believe there are many opportunities to make use of this infrastructure for much more, which I think you question hints at. I have done quite a lot of exploration in

Re: [tw5] Re: Ten Ways to Drag and Drop Tiddlers to Tiddlywiki

2021-05-09 Thread TW Tones
Mohammad et al... I know link to tabs is introducing this feature, but I must admit I have felt for sometime that given the tabs macros exists there is an opportunity to clone or modify these from the core and add more features from native drag and drop, the tab title or body as a drop zone or

Re: [tw5] Is blockchain still not for TW?

2021-05-09 Thread TW Tones
Mart, I applaud your raising blockchain as a possible integration to tiddlywiki. I spent some time researching the technology, but I could not build an instance, nor am I an expert, however some thoughts; I think it could be a good technology to make use of with tiddlywiki, especially since

Re: [tw5] Re: Missing transcluded tiddlers question

2021-05-09 Thread CJ Veniot
Yeah, sounds like your network firewall is blocking access to neocities. I can't do anything about that. On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 9:55 PM David Gifford wrote: > Same message > > > > > > On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 7:48 PM Charlie Veniot wrote: > >> Unless your firewall is suspicious of a

Re: [tw5] Re: Missing transcluded tiddlers question

2021-05-09 Thread David Gifford
Same message On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 7:48 PM Charlie Veniot wrote: > Unless your firewall is suspicious of a redirect > > Would you mind trying a direct link to the tiddlywiki for me, to see if I > should always be providing direct links going forward: >

Re: [tw5] Re: Missing transcluded tiddlers question

2021-05-09 Thread Charlie Veniot
Unless your firewall is suspicious of a redirect Would you mind trying a direct link to the tiddlywiki for me, to see if I should always be providing direct links going forward: https://tiddlywiki-programming.neocities.org/CJ_TiddlyWikiProgramming.html Thanks ! On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at

Re: [tw5] Re: Missing transcluded tiddlers question

2021-05-09 Thread David Gifford
I am in a hotel presently. Perhaps they are limiting access to certain sites? I will try when I get home tomorrow. On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 7:12 PM Charlie Veniot wrote: > Sounds like your computer does not allow access to neocities. Not sure > why it would do that. I know of nothing

Re: [tw5] Re: Missing transcluded tiddlers question

2021-05-09 Thread Charlie Veniot
Are you using a work computer? Could be the workplace firewall is blocking access. On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 9:11:53 PM UTC-3 Charlie Veniot wrote: > Sounds like your computer does not allow access to neocities. Not sure > why it would do that. I know of nothing nefarious related to

Re: [tw5] Re: Missing transcluded tiddlers question

2021-05-09 Thread Charlie Veniot
Sounds like your computer does not allow access to neocities. Not sure why it would do that. I know of nothing nefarious related to neocities. On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 6:11:28 PM UTC-3 David Gifford wrote: > Chrome: " Your Internet access is blocked > > Firewall or antivirus software may

Re: [tw5] Re: The sidebar bermuda triangle

2021-05-09 Thread Ray Vermey
Ah ok so it is general? Great, thanks! Ray Op zo 9 mei 2021 om 23:16 schreef David Gifford : > Hi Ray > > Create a tiddler. Tag it $:/tags/Stylesheet . Change type to text/css. Add > the snippet below and save it, and watch that wasted space disappear > instantly. > > div.tc-sidebar-scrollable

Re: [tw5] Re: The sidebar bermuda triangle

2021-05-09 Thread David Gifford
Hi Ray Create a tiddler. Tag it $:/tags/Stylesheet . Change type to text/css. Add the snippet below and save it, and watch that wasted space disappear instantly. div.tc-sidebar-scrollable { padding-top: 0px ; } On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 3:53:46 PM UTC-5 rayv...@gmail.com wrote: > Well, so

Re: [tw5] Re: Missing transcluded tiddlers question

2021-05-09 Thread David Gifford
Chrome: " Your Internet access is blocked Firewall or antivirus software may have blocked the connection." On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 4:09:44 PM UTC-5 David Gifford wrote: > "Firefox can’t establish a connection to the server at > tiddlywiki-programming.neocities.org." > > Just now. > > --

Re: [tw5] Re: Missing transcluded tiddlers question

2021-05-09 Thread David Gifford
"Firefox can’t establish a connection to the server at tiddlywiki-programming.neocities.org." Just now. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [tw5] Re: Missing transcluded tiddlers question

2021-05-09 Thread Charlie Veniot
Link is working fine for me right now, and haven't seen an errors throughout the day. I have no idea why you would get a 404 error. On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 5:57:16 PM UTC-3 David Gifford wrote: > Strange, I was able to open this on my phone earlier. But now at my > computer I am getting a

Re: [tw5] Re: Missing transcluded tiddlers question

2021-05-09 Thread David Gifford
Strange, I was able to open this on my phone earlier. But now at my computer I am getting a 404. But I was able to figure out the gist of it and reproduce what I need. Thanks a bunch! On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 2:10 PM Charlie Veniot wrote: > https://tiddlywiki-programming.neocities.org/ > >

Re: [tw5] Re: The sidebar bermuda triangle

2021-05-09 Thread Ray Vermey
Well, so where can you adjust those things?? Ray Op zo 9 mei 2021 om 22:49 schreef David Gifford : > That's it! Thank you Mark! > > > > > On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 3:17 PM 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki < > tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com> wrote: > >> It's there in one of the divs. >> >> Possibly >> >>

Re: [tw5] Re: The sidebar bermuda triangle

2021-05-09 Thread David Gifford
That's it! Thank you Mark! On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 3:17 PM 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki < tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com> wrote: > It's there in one of the divs. > > Possibly > > div.tc-sidebar-scrollable > { padding-top: 50px ; > } > > will move it up (tweak 50px as needed). > > On Sunday, May 9,

[tw5] Re: Demystify drag-N-drop in Tiddlywiki

2021-05-09 Thread si
@Mohammad Really nice! I've stayed away from drag and drop up until now, so I look forward to seeing what you come up with. The bookmarker is a great example. It works particularly well in Vivaldi if you have your wiki open in the sidebar - no having to jump between tabs. It would be cool if

[tw5] Re: The sidebar bermuda triangle

2021-05-09 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
It's there in one of the divs. Possibly div.tc-sidebar-scrollable { padding-top: 50px ; } will move it up (tweak 50px as needed). On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 12:12:08 PM UTC-7 David Gifford wrote: > Hi everyone > > In the attached image, the red area keeps me from moving the sidebar > elements

Re: [tw5] Re: A basket on the sidebar

2021-05-09 Thread David Gifford
Thanks Mohammad, I am going to look at this right now! Blessings On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 12:22:00 AM UTC-5 Mohammad wrote: > David, > In another thread there is discussion on drag and drop features! I bring > one example here! > > The attached tiddler shows a drop zone and if you drag a

[tw5] Re: Missing transcluded tiddlers question

2021-05-09 Thread Charlie Veniot
https://tiddlywiki-programming.neocities.org/ Create a new tiddler. In it, enter {{Blah blah blah || tAsDc }} Save the tiddler. You'll find visible markers when you pop open the Details Widget. Look for the little fishy link in the top-right corner. This is just the transclusion way of

[tw5] Re: Missing transcluded tiddlers question

2021-05-09 Thread David Gifford
Thanks Mark, but how would I get a list of the transclusions? On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 1:26:14 PM UTC-5 Mark S. wrote: > I would use a macro that would display a message if the tiddler was absent > or the contents if it wasn't. You could even make the "absent" message > display a button that

[tw5] Re: Missing transcluded tiddlers question

2021-05-09 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
I would use a macro that would display a message if the tiddler was absent or the contents if it wasn't. You could even make the "absent" message display a button that would allow you to create the tiddler and navigate to it. On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 10:59:16 AM UTC-7 David Gifford wrote: >

[tw5] Missing transcluded tiddlers question

2021-05-09 Thread David Gifford
Hi all When working in edit template for a long article, I tend to start out creating transclusions to tiddlers that will function as sections, but those tiddlers are not created yet. They are transclusions of missing tiddlers. When I return to view template, there are no visible markers to

[tw5] Re: Can ordinary tiddlers be made into shadow tiddlers?

2021-05-09 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Tinka is a tool for making tiddlers into a plugin. You could also use it to add tiddlers to an existing "storage" plugin. On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 4:28:15 AM UTC-7 Anjar wrote: > Hi! > > Shadow tiddlers have some nice properties, s I wonder: can ordinary >

[tw5] Re: Options for keeping revision history?

2021-05-09 Thread PMario
On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 6:40:48 PM UTC+2 si wrote: > I've become kind of interested in keeping a full revision history of my > wiki - i.e. be able to see every single change I've made to every tiddler. > I know about http://j.d.revisions.tiddlyspot.com/, which I like a lot, but > it has a

[tw5] Re: A Prototype of UID's for stable permalinks

2021-05-09 Thread Charlie Veniot
Pff, no worries. It is very easy to call things by various "names", and for the "intent" of words to match exactly all of one's thoughts related to the words, while meaning something entirely different to somebody else. So context gets jumbled easily. Imagine you place in all sorts of places

[tw5] Re: Can ordinary tiddlers be made into shadow tiddlers?

2021-05-09 Thread PMario
On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 1:28:15 PM UTC+2 Anjar wrote: Shadow tiddlers have some nice properties, s I wonder: can ordinary > tiddlers be made into shadow tiddlers or is it technically difficult? So > that if a new tiddler is created with the same title, the old one > disappears but is lurking

[tw5] Re: A Prototype of UID's for stable permalinks

2021-05-09 Thread ludwa6
Sorry Charlie for my sloppy wording: by "named-alike," what i meant was two tiddlers having the same UID-permalink. As for titles, i am very comfortable with the conflict avoidance measures built into the TW5 import process. In any case, i am reassured by your answer(s- this last and the one

[tw5] Re: Relink vs Permalinks

2021-05-09 Thread Charlie Veniot
I'm pretty sure we are talking very different problems. The problem I am solving is trying to guarantee as much as possible and with the least amount of fuss: prevent a URL, out in the wild and to a specific tiddler existing in a TiddlyWiki that is also out in the wild, from not opening that

[tw5] Options for keeping revision history?

2021-05-09 Thread si
I've become kind of interested in keeping a full revision history of my wiki - i.e. be able to see every single change I've made to every tiddler. I know about http://j.d.revisions.tiddlyspot.com/, which I like a lot, but it has a couple of disadvantages for my use case: 1. Revisions are

[tw5] Re: Relink vs Permalinks

2021-05-09 Thread Anjar
Hi, To remove it, just delete the permalink button: (replace URL with your own) https://tiddlywiki.com/#%24%3A%2Fcore%2Fui%2FButtons%2Fpermalink But I don't think we are changing any core functionality with this button; all we have done is replaced the single button and all it does is making a

[tw5] Re: A Prototype of UID's for stable permalinks

2021-05-09 Thread Charlie Veniot
G'day Walt, I did not clue into your statement: "So, i have to ask: in case of UID conflict: is what would happen indeed as innocuous a condition as what you describe, i.e.: the two named-alike tiddlers would both display to the WWW browser who comes in on that link? No other problem you can

[tw5] Re: A Prototype of UID's for stable permalinks

2021-05-09 Thread Charlie Veniot
I'm an amateur security-type, but I'm more so a creative type. I cannot imagine any scenario that would be a problem other than a UID-permalink opening unintended tiddlers in addition to the intended tiddler. It should not matter any, but I've been a programmer for close to 40 years. One of

[tw5] Re: A Prototype of UID's for stable permalinks

2021-05-09 Thread ludwa6
I understand, Charlie, how you are only trying to solve the problem w/in scope of a single wiki -and if that were a truly closed system, then indeed your solution solves the problem, if i'm understanding it correctly. However: i do see how easily tiddlers with the same ID could wind up in the

[tw5] Re: A Prototype of UID's for stable permalinks

2021-05-09 Thread Charlie Veniot
It will always be unique within one TiddlyWiki. Same as "Sequence numbers" in an Oracle Database. The UID isn't really a counter. It gets the the largest value of UID that exists among the tiddlers, then gives "this tiddler" the greatest value + 1. So not a counter in the sense of a stored

[tw5] Re: A Prototype of UID's for stable permalinks

2021-05-09 Thread PMario
Hi, TLDR; I think a "counter" used as UID will fail in the short run! I did my post my concerns at github. https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/discussions/5668#discussioncomment-715278 -mario -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki"

Re: [tw5] Is blockchain still not for TW?

2021-05-09 Thread Soren Bjornstad
One blockchain-related thing I do with my TiddlyWiki is stamp the Git repo containing the wiki with OpenTimestamps . It piggybacks on PGP signing, adding a timestamp on top of the signature. Whenever a commit is made, it calculates hashes for all the blobs in the

[tw5] Re: Digital gardening Tools

2021-05-09 Thread Soren Bjornstad
On Friday, May 7, 2021 at 12:31:00 PM UTC-5 Odin wrote: > It also appears a lot of the public gardens on the list aren´t maintained. > Which is ironic considering the name. A garden requires continuous > maintenance to be successful and to produce. Maybe the initial craze about > Zettelkasten

[tw5] Re: Relink vs Permalinks

2021-05-09 Thread ludwa6
Anders: much as i appreciate the brilliance of your solution to this problem, i think that -since Charlie's come up w/ a different solution that solves the problem w/o opening core functionality to possible corruption (right? i hope!)- then maybe i would do well to remove this

[tw5] Re: A Prototype of UID's for stable permalinks

2021-05-09 Thread ludwa6
W00t! It works! Created a new tiddler, generated stable permalink from Charlie's UID solution -confirmed valid- then retitled & Relinked that tiddler, reloaded page in another browser w/ that same URL... And it landed on that same tiddler w/ the new title! Thanks for the pointer, Saq -big

[tw5] Can ordinary tiddlers be made into shadow tiddlers?

2021-05-09 Thread Anjar
Hi! Shadow tiddlers have some nice properties, s I wonder: can ordinary tiddlers be made into shadow tiddlers or is it technically difficult? So that if a new tiddler is created with the same title, the old one disappears but is lurking in the background as a shadow? Best, Anders -- You

[tw5] Re: What is #TiddlyWiki?

2021-05-09 Thread strikke...@gmail.com
Dave, Very good descriptions both of them. That is exactly so - and the reason I need a pause sometimes, to sort out my drives. It is kind of comforting to read your post, I just thought I was messy..LOL. A pause never last for long - too afraid of missing out. Birthe lørdag den 8. maj

Re: [tw5] Re: Digital gardening Tools

2021-05-09 Thread Mohammad Rahmani
Hi Odin, I think the below article describes the digital garden in a simple language https://talk.macpowerusers.com/t/nerding-out-about-digital-gardens/19112 Social media like Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, and WhatsApp are categorized as streams and are different! I also think the writeup by

Re: [tw5] Is blockchain still not for TW?

2021-05-09 Thread Mat
@inmysocks That's a very sober approach - but/and which I don't think anyone has contradicted. My question is; *could *blockchain somehow be of value for TW? I would not be surprised if it could, especially for aspects that we currently disregard or dismiss for TW. After all, TW is very

Re: [tw5] Streams 0.21 is now available - streams 0.212 quirks and workarounds

2021-05-09 Thread Saq Imtiaz
> Thanks all the same; any advice on the use of > baseName=<> > vs baseName=<> ? > I think that is really a personal preference on how you like your titles set up. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this

[tw5] Re: A Prototype of UID's for stable permalinks

2021-05-09 Thread Saq Imtiaz
Suggest updating Relink to the latest version if you have not already done so. On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 9:33:33 AM UTC+2 ludwa6 wrote: > OK Charlie: can't say as i understand much of this, but the fact that > you've been able to replicate that JavaScript error - saving to your local >

Re: [tw5] Re: Ten Ways to Drag and Drop Tiddlers to Tiddlywiki

2021-05-09 Thread Mohammad Rahmani
On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 12:44 PM PMario wrote: > Hi Mohammd, > > Hi Mario, > Nice catch. That's a "side-effect", that in TW everything is a tiddler. > The d mechanism knows, what to do with tiddler links. The plugin creates > a tiddler link, that can be dragged. > Yes, but very useful at

[tw5] Re: Ten Ways to Drag and Drop Tiddlers to Tiddlywiki

2021-05-09 Thread PMario
Hi Mohammd, Nice catch. That's a "side-effect", that in TW everything is a tiddler. The d mechanism knows, what to do with tiddler links. The plugin creates a tiddler link, that can be dragged. That's all what happens. -mario > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

[tw5] Re: A Prototype of UID's for stable permalinks

2021-05-09 Thread ludwa6
OK Charlie: can't say as i understand much of this, but the fact that you've been able to replicate that JavaScript error - saving to your local downloaded instance of mine (as you lack edit perms on the hosted instance) i presume- leads me to believe that it's not a Tiddlyhost thing, but