[tw5] Re: Error when using musicsheets widget

2021-08-18 Thread BurningTreeC
Hi @Psalm 104:33 KJV and @Eric Shulman, The musicsheets widget which I created could definitely need some love When I find the time I'll release an updated version Best wishes, Simon Eric Shulman schrieb am Donnerstag, 19. August 2021 um 01:14:49 UTC+2: > On Wednesday, August 18, 2021 at

Re: [tw5] Seeking common misunderstandings

2021-08-18 Thread TW Tones
Soren, I too think this is a great idea. Some of the miss understandings are listed in my documents, built on Tobias's efforts before here https://anthonymuscio.github.io/#Standard%20Nomenclature and tiddlers pointed to there in. - In particular to support Jeremy's point see ❷ Widget and

[tw5] Re: seeing what the transfering of tiddlywiki to a more self-coded platform can look like

2021-08-18 Thread TW Tones
Jamm Perhaps you could describe this with more detail, what are you trying to achieve, define "self-coded platform" etc.., because this forum is for a more general audience. Tiddlywiki is a non-trivial Quine which makes me ask is it not already a " self-coded platform ". Otherwise if this is

[tw5] Re: I Think I Hacked TiddlyWiki

2021-08-18 Thread TW Tones
Thanks all for considering this; I think the best way to limit risks is to provide plugins in trusted libraries, from trusted sources. then people could also install these in an empty html and run a vulnerability test using a plugin designed to highlight risks. As soon as a library contains

[tw5] Re: How can I prevent TW from trimming leading space in field transclusion?

2021-08-18 Thread TW Tones
Stephanie It took a little time to wade through the combinations. I also found there are possibly many ways to do this. The attached json has a view template that displays the detail or references if they exist according to your specs, the view template itself is for all other setting and the

[tw5] Re: Import tiddlers w/ json including custom fields

2021-08-18 Thread Soren Bjornstad
By the way, when I said that the example "imported correctly" for me, it indeed did not include some of the fields...for some reason I foolishly decided not to mention that when I imported it even though I noticed. I am not however seeing the message jkm was where $:/Import said there were no

[tw5] Re: Gitmbed beta: A tool that complements TW

2021-08-18 Thread TW Tones
Flanc, I will check it out today. I hope you remain obsessed with tiddlywiki because your contributions are proving top be substantial. Let me know if I can help you from a Superuser (rather than developer perspective) but of course posting here or soon discourse will share the love. Thanks

[tw5] Gitmbed beta: A tool that complements TW

2021-08-18 Thread Finn Lancaster
Hello Everybody, Yet again, I have had a flash of creativity, and, like usual built a new tool which I believe could complement TiddlyWiki. This time, the tool is a Chrome extension (pending for Chrome Web Store) which allows embedding of external content/embeds into GitHub and other social

[tw5] Re: How can I prevent TW from trimming leading space in field transclusion?

2021-08-18 Thread Joshua Fontany
Stéphane, Some-one on GitHub in the bug report (link) mentioned that you can "view" the raw text of a field with the View Widget. So, where as {{foo!!bar}} is a shortcut for <$tiddler tiddler="foo"><$translcude tiddler=<> field="bar"/> You can create a macro that uses the View Widget like

[tw5] Re: Import tiddlers w/ json including custom fields

2021-08-18 Thread TW Tones
I can totally recommend Joshua's JSON mangler in cases likele this and csv. On Thursday, 19 August 2021 at 04:22:26 UTC+10 jkm...@gmail.com wrote: > New member here. Windows, TiddlyDesktop v0.0.14, TW 5.1.23 > > I'm able to import tiddlers from json with the title and text fields. But >

[tw5] Re: Should we prohibit leading and trailing whitespace in field names in 5.2.0?

2021-08-18 Thread Joshua Fontany
I am in favor of stripping out leading and trailing whitespace in field Names during field creation and tiddler import. Best, Joshua F On Wednesday, August 18, 2021 at 1:38:29 PM UTC-7 Soren Bjornstad wrote: > I'll preface this by saying this probably belongs in a GitHub issue, and > I'll be

[tw5] Re: Import tiddlers w/ json including custom fields

2021-08-18 Thread Joshua Fontany
The "Deserializer" for "application/json" files that are Objects (with minimum "title" field), or Arrays of such objects, does include a check to see if the value is a string: ``` if(typeof incomingFields[f] === "string") { fields[f] = incomingFields[f]; } ``` This is stripping out your other

[tw5] Re: Error when using musicsheets widget

2021-08-18 Thread Eric Shulman
On Wednesday, August 18, 2021 at 3:28:33 PM UTC-7 Psalm 104:33 KJV wrote: > I am a musician and enjoy researching and cataloging things. Tiddlywiki > combined with the musicsheets > widget looks like my dream come true. > I have attempted to install the

[tw5] Re: I Think I Hacked TiddlyWiki

2021-08-18 Thread Joshua Fontany
I agree that there are a lot of possible open "attack vectors", and keeping track of every one is not feasable. Good conversation so far. I think the primarily concern is that TW will run obfuscated javascript without a refresh required. That should have an option to "Sandbox" that behaviour

[tw5] Re: Should we prohibit leading and trailing whitespace in field names in 5.2.0?

2021-08-18 Thread Eric Shulman
On Wednesday, August 18, 2021 at 1:57:26 PM UTC-7 PMario wrote: > There has been a discussion recently, where a user needed to be able to > add whitespace as needed. And the description of the usecase made sense. > That discussion was related to having leading whitespace in a field *value*,

[tw5] Re: Should we prohibit leading and trailing whitespace in field names in 5.2.0?

2021-08-18 Thread Soren Bjornstad
Mario, I don't think the thread you linked is relevant. I'm talking about field *names*, not field values. And I don't see how it would break backwards compatibility with 5.1.x, because 5.1.x didn't allow *any* spaces in field names. If I'm misunderstanding, please correct me (and can you

[tw5] Error when using musicsheets widget

2021-08-18 Thread Psalm 104:33 KJV
Hello, I am a musician and I love to research and catalog things. So when I found Tiddlywiki and musicsheets , it looked like my dreams had come true. Unfortunately I am getting an error (image attached). I am using TW 5.1.23 on Chrome on OSX Catalina and

[tw5] Error when using musicsheets widget

2021-08-18 Thread Psalm 104:33 KJV
Hello, I am a musician and enjoy researching and cataloging things. Tiddlywiki combined with the musicsheets widget looks like my dream come true. I have attempted to install the musicsheets widget several times, but cannot seem to get past this error

Re: [tw5] Do you already use https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/ ?

2021-08-18 Thread Abraham Samma
Plus, the Discourse site does not leak emails oh so liberally like GG! On Thursday, August 19, 2021 at 12:39:09 AM UTC+3 abes...@gmail.com wrote: > The Discourse interface makes it far better than GG, especially on mobile > imho. I think there are a couple of things the moderators and admins

Re: [tw5] Do you already use https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/ ?

2021-08-18 Thread abes...@gmail.com
The Discourse interface makes it far better than GG, especially on mobile imho. I think there are a couple of things the moderators and admins should consider: 1. Allow cross-site replies; as seen above, it seems folks would prefer being able to reply to GG posts from Discourse to ease the

[tw5] Re: How can I prevent TW from trimming leading space in field transclusion?

2021-08-18 Thread Misterel85
Thank you for your very interesting and useful examples, Tones. I didn't know about `sentencecase`! I'll keep that post as a reference. And thank you very much for proposing your help. Sorry for not replying sooner. I've spent the last two days thinking those field connexion rules over for my

[tw5] Re: Should we prohibit leading and trailing whitespace in field names in 5.2.0?

2021-08-18 Thread PMario
On Wednesday, August 18, 2021 at 10:38:29 PM UTC+2 Soren Bjornstad wrote: > I'll preface this by saying this probably belongs in a GitHub issue, and > I'll be happy to create one over there if we want one. But wanted to get > people's thoughts first, and ASAP because now is our last chance to

[tw5] Re: Should we prohibit leading and trailing whitespace in field names in 5.2.0?

2021-08-18 Thread Soren Bjornstad
Just realized some people might not be familiar with the term "leading and trailing whitespace"...I mean whitespace at the very beginning or end of the name. In the current prerelease, these are valid and distinct field names (with the quotes removed): "my field" " my field" "my field " "

[tw5] Should we prohibit leading and trailing whitespace in field names in 5.2.0?

2021-08-18 Thread Soren Bjornstad
I'll preface this by saying this probably belongs in a GitHub issue, and I'll be happy to create one over there if we want one. But wanted to get people's thoughts first, and ASAP because now is our last chance to do this without breaking backwards compatibility (once 5.2.0 is released, it

[tw5] Re: Import tiddlers w/ json including custom fields

2021-08-18 Thread springer
JKM, After putting quotes around your numbers (and fixing where a So-called "smart" quote had crept in during my editing, sorry about my earlier post, now deleted), both records import fine for me. I have found that raw numbers for field content (as in your kbarating field) will not work;

[tw5] seeing what the transfering of tiddlywiki to a more self-coded platform can look like

2021-08-18 Thread Andrew Paul
I'm looking to see what the transfering of tiddlywiki to a more self-coded platform, such as jekyll, gatsby, or others, can look like. My concern is the transition being difficult, long, etc. Any resources? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

[tw5] Re: Import tiddlers w/ json including custom fields

2021-08-18 Thread springer
JKM, This is not much of an answer, except two comments: (1) I regularly import JSON strings with fields, needing no further configuration. (The import tiddler won't show the additional fields, but they'll be part of the tiddler after import, as you can see once you open in edit mode.) (2) I

[tw5] Re: Import tiddlers w/ json including custom fields

2021-08-18 Thread Soren Bjornstad
Your second example imports as expected for me. Is it possible tiddlers with the titles in your JSON already exist in the wiki? I believe there is a bug in 5.1.23 where it doesn't explain that to you in the import dialog and just silently skips them. On Wednesday, August 18, 2021 at 1:22:26 PM

[tw5] Import tiddlers w/ json including custom fields

2021-08-18 Thread John Mayes
New member here. Windows, TiddlyDesktop v0.0.14, TW 5.1.23 I'm able to import tiddlers from json with the title and text fields. But when I try to do it with a custom field the import tiddler shows no items to import. All my custom fields begin with *kba* and some additional alphanumeric

[tw5] Re: I Think I Hacked TiddlyWiki

2021-08-18 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Really, it gets back to trust and reputation. A TW coder could write a tiddler that contains no javascript tiddlers, but that, when run, creates a javascript tiddler that will later get run. So you would never see javascript code during import. The core TW is already pretty huge. Adding patch

[tw5] Re: I Think I Hacked TiddlyWiki

2021-08-18 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
I never got the alert. I'm curious why some people are reporting that it worked. Also, "alert" is very public and generally pretty harmless. Possibly it could be used as part of a phishing scheme. It's not clear to me that you could create code that could modify anything outside the iframe

[tw5] Re: I Think I Hacked TiddlyWiki

2021-08-18 Thread
Excellent points John. Most users will indeed not review the full text of every single tiddler they import. I'm now thinking that pointing out which ones should indeed be reviewed more explicitly would be both easy and worthwhile. At the tm-import-tiddlers widget level, any JS that's being

[tw5] Re: A brewing idea: TiddlyWiki on node.js: check for changes

2021-08-18 Thread Stobot
Ah! I knew it must be something easy - thanks for that! Lots to read up on :) On Wednesday, August 18, 2021 at 11:52:06 AM UTC-4 PMario wrote: > HI, > The TiddlyWiki --listen command has a lot of additional parameters. See: > https://tiddlywiki.com/#ListenCommand > > tiddlywiki "path/to/wiki"

[tw5] Re: A brewing idea: TiddlyWiki on node.js: check for changes

2021-08-18 Thread PMario
HI, The TiddlyWiki --listen command has a lot of additional parameters. See: https://tiddlywiki.com/#ListenCommand tiddlywiki "path/to/wiki" --listen host=10.1.x.x should do the trick. -m On Wednesday, August 18, 2021 at 5:34:19 PM UTC+2 Stobot wrote: > Thanks for the continued

[tw5] Re: A brewing idea: TiddlyWiki on node.js: check for changes

2021-08-18 Thread Stobot
Thanks for the continued conversation @pmario, So I'm aware of my IP and am fine with the ip:port need (as that's how it's done in BOB also), but the piece I'm stuck on is how to get node to serve it on my local IP address (though this is really not my area of expertise, so could be way

[tw5] Re: Refer to the same tiddler with multiple names

2021-08-18 Thread PMario
Hi Sandip, I did create a plugin named: uni-link. .. It will allow you to use an aliases field in your tiddler. This field can then be used to link to other tiddlers. Have a closer look at the original intro thread and the video on the plugin page.

Re: [tw5] Seeking common misunderstandings

2021-08-18 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Soren, > I'm working on adding a chapter (or back-matter section, not sure yet) called > "Common Misunderstandings" to Grok TiddlyWiki. Currently I have two sections: Excellent idea, I think that will be very helpful. > Macros are not function calls > Constant strings cannot be combined

[tw5] Re: A brewing idea: TiddlyWiki on node.js: check for changes

2021-08-18 Thread PMario
On Wednesday, August 18, 2021 at 4:45:31 PM UTC+2 PMario wrote: If you do have admin rights on your PC you can also define a "local domain > name" in the windows hosts file, if you have a fixed IP address. > eg: http://.lan:8080 .. > Oh ... I did forget. If others also need to know the local

[tw5] Re: A brewing idea: TiddlyWiki on node.js: check for changes

2021-08-18 Thread PMario
On Wednesday, August 18, 2021 at 4:01:11 PM UTC+2 Stobot wrote: I start node each morning and it gives me the standard Serving on > http://127.0.0.1:8080 message, so I'd have to figure out how to get that > to a 10.1.X.X situation for LAN usage to multi-serve right? In BOB there's > some

[tw5] Re: Seeking common misunderstandings

2021-08-18 Thread Soren Bjornstad
Maybe this is derailing the thread, but I'm disinclined to post on Discourse when I'm looking for a broad audience (like in this post) since only a few people are over there so far. Is there anything we can do to to ease that? Is it possible to crosspost new threads from Discourse to GG for

[tw5] Re: Seeking common misunderstandings

2021-08-18 Thread Saq Imtiaz
Yes that is exactly what I mean. The GG threads in Discourse are read only. It would help if people started new threads on Discourse, hopefully we will see more of that in the next days. The plan is to migrate to Discourse and make this group read only after a short period where we test out

[tw5] Re: A brewing idea: TiddlyWiki on node.js: check for changes

2021-08-18 Thread PMario
In powershell you can try ipconfig or Get-NetIPAddress | Format-Table Your PC address will be the one with 10.1.x.x in it. Mainly the one which comes form a Dhcp server -m On Wednesday, August 18, 2021 at 4:22:16 PM UTC+2 Stobot wrote: > Windows 10 > > On Wednesday, August 18, 2021 at

[tw5] Re: Seeking common misunderstandings

2021-08-18 Thread Stobot
@saqimtiaz - I might be doing it wrong, but I haven't found a way to reply in Discourse to a GG thread, I assume you mean you'll start a new 'topic' in Discourse, or am I missing something? I only see the reply button in Discourse for Discourse-native conversations. This is making the

[tw5] Re: A brewing idea: TiddlyWiki on node.js: check for changes

2021-08-18 Thread Stobot
Windows 10 On Wednesday, August 18, 2021 at 10:16:39 AM UTC-4 PMario wrote: > Hi, > Which OS do you have? > -mario > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

[tw5] Re: how to set a global variable with a tiddler field value

2021-08-18 Thread vpl
Hi, Much much simplier .. indeed I've turned around this simple solution for some time without finding it .. Thanks a lot for your very quick help Regards Le mercredi 18 août 2021 à 12:53:31 UTC+2, Eric Shulman a écrit : > On Wednesday, August 18, 2021 at 3:25:22 AM UTC-7 vpl wrote: > >> In

[tw5] Re: A brewing idea: TiddlyWiki on node.js: check for changes

2021-08-18 Thread PMario
Hi, Which OS do you have? -mario -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web

[tw5] Re: Seeking common misunderstandings

2021-08-18 Thread Saq Imtiaz
Hi Soren, I posted a small list an hour ago but due to the vagaries of GG it doesn't seem to have been posted. Re-writing is never fun but will do so and post as a reply on Discourse a little later. Regards, Saq On Wednesday, August 18, 2021 at 3:30:43 PM UTC+2 Soren Bjornstad wrote: > I'm

[tw5] Re: A brewing idea: TiddlyWiki on node.js: check for changes

2021-08-18 Thread Stobot
Interesting - I greatly appreciate the input/detail @pmario! In many (though not all) of my intended use cases, restricting others to *only add* operations (no changes) via UI trickery would be doable. My use-cases usually involve *me* setting something up a list of business decisions for

[tw5] Re: I Think I Hacked TiddlyWiki

2021-08-18 Thread J. C. S.
Well, what I see is this: If you use TW, you use JavaScript. And if you use JavaScript code from unknown / unsafe sources, you will run the risk of the code doing things that it shouldn't be doing. That should actually be clear to everyone. But that's not a problem for TW, but in principle for

[tw5] Seeking common misunderstandings

2021-08-18 Thread Soren Bjornstad
I'm working on adding a chapter (or back-matter section, not sure yet) called "Common Misunderstandings" to *Grok TiddlyWiki*. Currently I have two sections: - Macros are not function calls - Constant strings cannot be combined with transclusions Are there other common misunderstandings

Re: [tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki Community Call and File Uploads Plugin

2021-08-18 Thread TW Tones
Folks, I watched the video which was too late at night for me to attend. You all have my support and I am ready to contribute. You are all going in the direction I have wanted for some time so you have a happy chappy here. I was not able to receive a confirmation email or sign up to talk

[tw5] Re: A brewing idea: TiddlyWiki on node.js: check for changes

2021-08-18 Thread PMario
Followup, On Wednesday, August 18, 2021 at 2:03:53 PM UTC+2 PMario wrote: ... > The function is called "syncFromServer". So if you open 1 wiki in 2 tabs > of a browser you will informed, if someone opened a tiddler. A _red_ "draft > of ... by " button will be shown in the bottom of the wiki

[tw5] Re: A brewing idea: TiddlyWiki on node.js: check for changes

2021-08-18 Thread PMario
On Wednesday, August 18, 2021 at 1:30:01 PM UTC+2 Stobot wrote: > Ok, think my post went somewhere else (sorry if someone got that directly) It did land in my PM inbox. .. No problem :) > Newbie question for Charlie or others: How did you get Node.js version to > serve to multiple people? I

[tw5] Re: A brewing idea: TiddlyWiki on node.js: check for changes

2021-08-18 Thread Stobot
Ok, think my post went somewhere else (sorry if someone got that directly) Newbie question for Charlie or others: How did you get Node.js version to serve to multiple people? I use Node.js for my personal stuff and BOB for multi-user but I have a lot of issues with BOB during

[tw5] Generating Static Sites & Plugins

2021-08-18 Thread Louis Davout
So I'm using the render command to generate a static site. I'm also using some plugins that at the very least include css such as TW-Shiraz. Is there a best practice for getting this to work or do I need to manually modify my render template to include references to all the css files used and

[tw5] Re: how to set a global variable with a tiddler field value

2021-08-18 Thread Eric Shulman
On Wednesday, August 18, 2021 at 3:25:22 AM UTC-7 vpl wrote: > In fact my problem was linked to a button action and thanks to > https://tiddlytools.com/timer.html code sample I was able to find a work > an option > \define tasks_delete() > <$vars projectId={{{ [get[projectId]] }}}> >

[tw5] Refer to the same tiddler with multiple names

2021-08-18 Thread Sandip Deshmukh
There are times when I would like to call a tiddler by multiple names. This is true especially about names of people, places, etc. In Wikipedia, one can see mentions like this: "JFK", "John Kennedy", and "Jack Kennedy" redirect here Does similar functionality exist in tiddlywiki? It will

[tw5] Re: how to set a global variable with a tiddler field value

2021-08-18 Thread vpl
Thanks a lot for this detailed answer which is going beyond my current expertise and understanding of these languages suptilities In fact my problem was linked to a button action and thanks to https://tiddlytools.com/timer.html code sample I was able to find a work an option \define

[tw5] Re: TiddlyWikis on node.js: includeWikis: configuration BEFORE includes

2021-08-18 Thread PMario
Hi, As Joshua pointed out it mainly is a convenience function for developers. And as such it has some rough edges. One of them you found out. The second one is, that you can't define the "bag" that is used to store completely new tiddlers. It is hardcoded by in the server tiddlywiki.info

[tw5] Re: Speech To Text v1.0.6 Released - Piping of Text into inputs and textareas

2021-08-18 Thread Ste
That is very cool! On Wednesday, 18 August 2021 at 08:53:25 UTC+1 BurningTreeC wrote: > The plugin works best on Chrome/Chromium browsers and using the NodeJs > configuration > > file:/// urls don't keep the permission for microphone access but https:// > urls do. The NodeJs configuration by

[tw5] Re: A brewing idea: TiddlyWiki on node.js: check for changes

2021-08-18 Thread PMario
On Wednesday, August 18, 2021 at 4:27:18 AM UTC+2 joshua@gmail.com wrote: Aside: I also noticed that if you "Close" an open draft tiddler with the > `X` button, that it deletes the draft from the wiki, and this really > disturbs drafts from other users that are being edited live note

[tw5] Re: Speech To Text v1.0.6 Released - Piping of Text into inputs and textareas

2021-08-18 Thread BurningTreeC
The plugin works best on Chrome/Chromium browsers and using the NodeJs configuration file:/// urls don't keep the permission for microphone access but https:// urls do. The NodeJs configuration by default serves the wiki at https://127.0.0.1:8080 and Chrome/Chromium can grant permissions to

Re: [tw5] Installing plugins in Android

2021-08-18 Thread Sandip Deshmukh
Thanks.That did it. On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 10:36:49 PM UTC+5:30 jeremy...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi Sandip > > > On 16 Aug 2021, at 16:01, Sandip Deshmukh wrote: > > A newbie here. So, bear with me if this is a basic question. > > On my desktop, I am able to install several plugins not

[tw5] Re: Speech To Text v1.0.6 Released - Piping of Text into inputs and textareas

2021-08-18 Thread BurningTreeC
I hope we can get some feedback from users if there are any BurningTreeC schrieb am Dienstag, 17. August 2021 um 17:31:59 UTC+2: > > Finn Lancaster and I (Simon Huber alias BurningTreeC) are proud to > announce the release of v1.0.6 of the Speech to Text plugin >

[tw5] Re: I Think I Hacked TiddlyWiki

2021-08-18 Thread TW Tones
Mark et al You said *TW wasn't built from the ground-up for mult-user, and it's definitely not how most people are using it. I'm sure products built as server-side entities (e.g. WikiMedia) have all sorts of protection against injected code. * I agree, yet we have Bob which makes this