Re: [tw5] Re: Typing lag in <$edit-text/> widget

2019-10-15 Thread Hubert
Hi Jeremy, That's fantastic, thank you! I really appreciate having this addition. Many thanks for your support & the great work! Best regards, Hubert On Monday, 14 October 2019 15:08:14 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote: > > Hi Hubert > > I've added support for v5.1.22 for the presence of a field cal

Re: [tw5] Re: Typing lag in <$edit-text/> widget

2019-10-14 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Hubert I've added support for v5.1.22 for the presence of a field called "throttle.refresh" triggering the same throttling process as for draft tiddlers. You can try it out here: https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease#RefreshThrottling Best wishes Jeremy. -- Jeremy Ruston jer...@jermolene.com

Re: [tw5] Re: Typing lag in <$edit-text/> widget

2019-10-11 Thread Hubert
Just to add, sliders created using the <$range/> widget are now also smooth as butter, as long as the tiddler being updated is an unsaved draft, eg: <$range tiddler="Draft of 'edit-range'" min=0 max=10 default=5 increment=0.5/> I've tested this on desktop and mobile. Even on desktop, removing t

Re: [tw5] Re: Typing lag in <$edit-text/> widget

2019-10-11 Thread Hubert
Hi Jeremy, Thank you for taking the time to respond, I appreciate it. We could add an additional field that we check for along with the > “draft.of” field, such as “refresh.slow” as suggested in the thread above. > I don’t think that’s going to be particularly convenient in lots of > situation

Re: [tw5] Re: Typing lag in <$edit-text/> widget

2019-10-11 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Hubert, Thank you for finding this thread from 2015: https://groups.google.com/d/topic/tiddlywiki/hlIvXE6jRys/discussion As you note, I think we are still in the same place: on lower powered devices, it would be useful to be able to extend the refresh dampening mechanism to selectively appl

[tw5] Re: Typing lag in <$edit-text/> widget

2019-10-11 Thread Hubert
Mark, I've found this old post of yours , again, in relation to performance issues specifically related to typing. This was even before TypingTimeout was a user-adjustable setting. This led me to experiment with an alto

[tw5] Re: Typing lag in <$edit-text/> widget

2019-10-11 Thread Hubert
Hi Mark, My TW now has 63k entries, and, in a meeting the other day,I was able to > look up entries about as fast as people asked. > That's impressive. Did you use a search bar or your own widget? I'm particularly interested if it was the latter. But that was using a Kindle Fire, which might

[tw5] Re: Typing lag in <$edit-text/> widget

2019-10-10 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
In my case, I kept the tags but removed all usage of the tag filter operator. My TW now has 63k entries, and, in a meeting the other day, I was able to look up entries about as fast as people asked. But that was using a Kindle Fire, which might have a stronger processor than a motorola phone. I

[tw5] Re: Typing lag in <$edit-text/> widget

2019-10-10 Thread Hubert
Sounds counter-intuitive, but I've just checked it nevertheless. Nope, 400 is much worse in my case. The circumstantial evidence I have so far is pointing to tags... On Thursday, 10 October 2019 15:49:30 UTC+1, Mark S. wrote: > > I you know, I think experienced this before, and commented. Try re

[tw5] Re: Typing lag in <$edit-text/> widget

2019-10-10 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
I you know, I think experienced this before, and commented. Try resetting the timeout back to 400 and reloading. After setting the TO to 6, it feels *slower* when typing into the input box. On Thursday, October 10, 2019 at 5:53:07 AM UTC-7, Hubert wrote: > > Hi Mark, > > >> Just testing n

[tw5] Re: Typing lag in <$edit-text/> widget

2019-10-10 Thread Hubert
Update: having read Mark's post about hitting a barrier at 36000 tiddlers , I've removed all tags from my wiki and made another typing test using a PC. Pressing and holding a letter key produced 10 rows of text in 16 seco

[tw5] Re: Typing lag in <$edit-text/> widget

2019-10-10 Thread Hubert
Hi Mark, > Just testing now, and setting it to 6 doesn't seem to impact the speed > with regular editing nor inside a form box. > Have you reloaded the wiki after setting it to 6? It might not take effect until reloaded. Is there anything special about your TW file? Have you tested o

[tw5] Re: Typing lag in <$edit-text/> widget

2019-10-09 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
I've mentioned typing speeds in the past. I never found that the draft speed setting really changed anything one way or the other. Maybe it makes a difference on Mac but not on Android. Just testing now, and setting it to 6 doesn't seem to impact the speed with regular editing nor inside a f

[tw5] Re: Typing lag in <$edit-text/> widget

2019-10-09 Thread Hubert
Hi Mark, What vintage is your phone? It's a fairly recent midrange Motorola. What version of TW are you using? There are size/speed improvements in > 5.1.20. I'm using the latest stable TW version (5.1.21). I tried your test on the full downloaded TiddlyWiki.com page on my 2012 era > sams

[tw5] Re: Typing lag in <$edit-text/> widget

2019-10-09 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
What vintage is your phone? What version of TW are you using? There are size/speed improvements in 5.1.20. I tried your test on the full downloaded TiddlyWiki.com page on my 2012 era samsung phone. The speed of course was slow, but it was the same for the edit box as for editing the tiddler its

[tw5] Re: Typing lag in <$edit-text/> widget

2019-10-09 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Hah! You don't remember something *you* wrote? Welcome to my world! ;-) On Tuesday, October 8, 2019 at 10:10:51 PM UTC-7, TonyM wrote: > > Birthe C > > I had a habit of naming things quick in the past, but do not recall QuickDB > > Yes, Tiddlywiki is a "divergent thinking muse". > > Regards > Ton

[tw5] Re: Typing lag in <$edit-text/> widget

2019-10-09 Thread TonyM
Hubert Thanks for the example. I reproduced it in tiddloid. I see even back space lags. Now I have something to hack. Regards Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

[tw5] Re: Typing lag in <$edit-text/> widget

2019-10-09 Thread Hubert
Thank you Tony. Perhaps something I did not make clear I tend to allow edit and view of > content through the view template such that there is nothing in the current > tiddler that needs refreshing. In my examples of caption and description > these are not displayed by rendering the current tid

[tw5] Re: Typing lag in <$edit-text/> widget

2019-10-09 Thread TonyM
Hubert, I stand to be corrected, and will test on mobile myself. Perhaps something I did not make clear I tend to allow edit and view of content through the view template such that there is nothing in the current tiddler that needs refreshing. In my examples of caption and description these are

[tw5] Re: Typing lag in <$edit-text/> widget

2019-10-09 Thread Hubert
Hi Tony, Thanks for taking the time to help. I'm sorry that I didn't make it more clear in my original post (which, I admit, is a bit convoluted) -- I'm *not* attempting to type into the current tiddler using edit-text as this will of course introduce lag and loss of focus. This is a known iss

[tw5] Re: Typing lag in <$edit-text/> widget

2019-10-08 Thread Birthe C
Tony, I found it: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/kLqyVrjcJ50/EyawWyGCEQAJ Birthe onsdag den 9. oktober 2019 kl. 07.29.14 UTC+2 skrev Birthe C: > > Tony, > > I recalled QuickDB because it is field editing in vie

[tw5] Re: Typing lag in <$edit-text/> widget

2019-10-08 Thread Birthe C
Tony, I recalled QuickDB because it is field editing in viewmode, and having an edit-field-list to enter the names that will be the entries in the db. Very lovely when being in a hurry, saving the little details. Birthe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Grou

[tw5] Re: Typing lag in <$edit-text/> widget

2019-10-08 Thread TonyM
Birthe C I had a habit of naming thing quick in the past, but do not recall QuickDB Yes, Tiddlywiki is a "divergent thinking muse". Regards Tony On Wednesday, October 9, 2019 at 4:02:38 PM UTC+11, Birthe C wrote: > > Thank you Tony, > > And now I recall. It was you who came up with the QuickDB

[tw5] Re: Typing lag in <$edit-text/> widget

2019-10-08 Thread Birthe C
Thank you Tony, And now I recall. It was you who came up with the QuickDB I am using that one for a lot of stuff now. For years I have tried to get my partner and my best friend to use tiddlywiki. No big luck, I am afraid. QuickDB with a lot of other easy stuff got at least some interest - at l

[tw5] Re: Typing lag in <$edit-text/> widget

2019-10-08 Thread TonyM
Hubert, If you use the online forum to access Google Groups you can actually edit your original post. One idea for collaboration is if you are happy with the result update your initial post with the answer you accepted, but leave the original intact. Regards Tony On Wednesday, October 9, 2019

[tw5] Re: Typing lag in <$edit-text/> widget

2019-10-08 Thread TonyM
Example 2 In a tiddler called CodeTiddler place Caption: <$edit-text field="caption" size=80/> In a tiddler called GlobalMacro tagged $:/tags/Macro place \define edit-caption() {{||CodeTiddler}} In any tiddler place <> *Notes* - This does not work on the CodeTiddler itself but you can ed

[tw5] Re: Typing lag in <$edit-text/> widget

2019-10-08 Thread TonyM
Here we Go, Example 1 In a tiddler called CodeTiddler place Description: <$edit-text field="description" size=80/> In a tiddler called "Edit view" tagged $:/tags/ViewTemplate enter {{||CodeTiddler}} Click on the $:/tags/ViewTemplate tag pill and drag the "Edit view" to above $:/core/ui/ViewTemp

[tw5] Re: Typing lag in <$edit-text/> widget

2019-10-08 Thread TonyM
Birthe, Seriously, I have attempted to a number of times, even create minimal test case. But have failed. It is easy to get caught in complex loops and twists where the slightest change breaks it. I will have another go. Regards Tony On Wednesday, October 9, 2019 at 12:36:19 PM UTC+11, Birth

[tw5] Re: Typing lag in <$edit-text/> widget

2019-10-08 Thread Birthe C
Hi Tony, You seem to have a lot of exiting things going on. Need and curiosity is getting the best of me when reading about it. You know curiosity killed the cat...and (Do I need to say more...). I understand that complexity and lack of time can make it difficult to publish the all shining and

[tw5] Re: Typing lag in <$edit-text/> widget

2019-10-08 Thread TonyM
Hubert, The lag often occurs when you are editing text or fields in the same or another tiddler that is being rendered in front of your eyes. If you can edit values in a tiddler that is not visible this can be eliminated. There are workarounds, and I have built these into a number of sophist