[tw] Re: [TW5] Let the creator field be required for every new tiddler

[The Bo]

Hey,

thank you guys for your answers.

I like this solution! It's nearly perfect for our tiddly project. :)
Thanks a lot!

Greetings
tueb

Am Mittwoch, 28. Januar 2015 12:14:10 UTC+1 schrieb Stephan Hradek:

 Would it be enought to set this as the first tiddler to display?

 $reveal state=$:/status/UserName type=match text=

 Please set your username first.

 $edit-text tiddler=$:/status/UserName tag=input type=text/
 /$reveal
 $reveal state=$:/status/UserName type=nomatch text=

 If {{$:/status/UserName}} is not your name, please change it here

 $edit-text tiddler=$:/status/UserName tag=input type=text/
 /$reveal





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Re: [tw] Re: Simple Javascript insertion in tiddlers (text/vnd.tiddlywiki)

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Tobi

On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 2:00 AM, Tobias Beer beertob...@gmail.com wrote:

 I never actually looked at the core to find what disables script tags. I'd
 be curious to figure out how to enable them. Anyone wanting to mess with
 your data would do the same thing. I prefer to know myself how that's done.


It's not hard to find. If you search the source tree for script
(including quotes) you'll see this in config.js:

exports.htmlUnsafeElements = script.split(,);

Then search for htmlUnsafeElements to find where it is used in
$:/core/modules/widgets/element.js:

var tag = this.parseTreeNode.tag;
if($tw.config.htmlUnsafeElements.indexOf(tag) !== -1) {
tag = safe- + tag;
}
var domNode = this.document.createElementNS(this.namespace,tag);

Note that script tags are allowed in text/html tiddlers because they are
safely sandboxed in an iframe.

Best wishes

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Re: [tw] Re: TW5 rules to import files based on its extension.

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Danielo

If a folder within a wiki folder contains a tiddlywiki.files file, then TW
just processes the specified files, and doesn't scan the folder or it's
subfolders.

Can you share the relevant wiki folders?

Best wishes

Jeremy.


On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 9:27 PM, Danielo Rodríguez rdani...@gmail.com
wrote:

 I sould like to hear something from the core-gurus.
 Thank you all.

 El martes, 27 de enero de 2015, 15:52:09 (UTC+1), Danielo Rodríguez
 escribió:

 loadTiddlersFromFile calls deserializeTiddlers passing the extension as
 type. And the deserializeTiddlers function imports the file even if the
 extension is not recognized, treating it as a plain text file, so every
 file should be imported. Then, why it is not importing all the files inside
 the tiddlers file, or even better, all the tiddlers specify on the
 defualt-tiddlers-location option?

 El martes, 27 de enero de 2015, 15:43:14 (UTC+1), Danielo Rodríguez
 escribió:

 loadTiddlersFromFile seems to rely on the registered extensions to load
 a tiddler. Based on this information, I think at least mp3,pnj,jpg, and
 basically all file types that TW can understand should be correctly
 included as tiddlers. But this is not happening, and I don't understand
 why. Dioes anyone have any clue?

 El martes, 27 de enero de 2015, 15:15:33 (UTC+1), Danielo Rodríguez
 escribió:

 Meta files can be also used, which are easier to build, but they did
 not accept relative notation, so we are facing a similar problem.
 I found that in the core there is a map on file types based on its
 extension:

 https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/
 7abe9aa53d9b1ec19e2afe1c5ace1c7633b0d5ce/boot/boot.js#L1748

 But it does not see to work when scanning folders. Maybe a boot module
 for that is enough, but I would like to see any example. Is there any part
 of the core that does something similar? Where is the code that scans the
 tiddlers folder recursively?

 El martes, 27 de enero de 2015, 15:03:17 (UTC+1), Felix Küppers
 escribió:

 Good point. There are many node js projects that deal with glob
 notations. Maybe it is possible to use a node module for this purpose.

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[tw] Re: Editor Prototype Mk II

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

 I do not miss an undo button. Mouse is not far away and right mouse button 
 undo removes the last change I made.


I didn't know about the mouse undo option. Now I've added research how that 
works though I'm a bit fearful of Undo unless there is a matching Redo. 
 

 The table helper for excel is pure gold ;-)


Thank you. I can't estimate how much time I spent converting those tables 
manually.
 

 When I first tried your demo I found that it really worked the best having 
 the preview window open. The version today works very well without.

 I have 2 friends I have been trying to get to use TW. They were both here 
 when I tested, so I asked them to try your demo. They are not skilled 
 computer users but both said, that they would definitely give TW another go 
 with this.


And that ultimately is what started me off down this path. The commands for 
bold, underline, and such are far from obvious. I use superscripts and 
subscripts routinely and I sometimes forget what the codes are. The new 
user who hasn't mastered these things has to go back and forth between 
several web pages to extract the necessary information. My observations are 
that most of them get frustrated and quit before they get deep enough into 
TiddlyWiki to appreciate it. Even those who have seen what it can do appear 
to be unlikely to use it on their own because of this educational barrier. 
And while the bookmarklets and keyboard snippets work well, no new user who 
is having problems figuring out how to bold text is ever going to figure 
out how to install those. But if the commands are right there in front of 
them in the form of buttons that are familiar looking because they resemble 
the buttons they see in other programs, the barrier is gone. Your friends' 
comments are exactly what I would expect.
 

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Re: [tw] Translating TW5 to spanish: Issues making TW5 work on node.

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Pau

 node --version
 #but still no reply.

That seems very weird; if node were not installed one would expect to see
an error message.

That makes me wonder whether there's an issue with the package manager that
you're using; I've no experience with apt-get myself, sadly.

Best wishes

Jeremy



On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Pau Deluca pau...@alamier.com wrote:

 Hi there!

 I intend to make a full translation into spanish of TW5. I've been advised
 to translate the tiddlers working locally on node.js, after forking and
 branching Jeremy's TW5 repository. However, TW5 nor node seem to work.
 (e.g.:, I type tiddlywiki --version and get no reply at all).

 I would like to ask you help to figure out what could I doing wrong:
 My SO is LinuxMint 17.1-64. Git is previously installed, user and email
 duly configured.

 These are the operations I made, for you to check.

1. Github: Forked https://github.com/jermolene/TiddlyWiki5 as
https://github.com/PauDeLuca/TiddlyWiki5
2. Github: Branched master as translES and established translES as
default.
3. Console: Created folder /home/pau/GIT
4. cd GIT
5. git clone https://github.com/PauDeLuca/TiddlyWiki5
6. cd TiddlyWiki5/
7. git checkout -b translES
#everything ok so far.
8. sudo apt-get install node
#positive response. I thought that node would be installed along with
npm, but it's not. I then install npm:
9. sudo apt-get install npm
10. sudo npm install -g tiddlywiki.
#I get the following:
11. npm http GET https://registry.npmjs.org/tiddlywiki
npm http 304 https://registry.npmjs.org/tiddlywiki
/usr/local/bin/tiddlywiki -
/usr/local/lib/node_modules/tiddlywiki/tiddlywiki.js
tiddlywiki@5.1.7 /usr/local/lib/node_modules/tiddlywiki
#I then check if TW is installed by:
12. tiddlywiki --version
#no reply at all. After checking with Jeremy, I type:
13. node --version
#but still no reply.

 My geekness is totally overwhelmed, I fear. I don't know where the error
 is. Any hint or advise would be well received.

 In the meanwhile, I'll start translating directly on my local copy of TW5,
 hoping the pain to join the translated tiddlers to the fork will not be too
 much.
 Thank you all.

 P.-)

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Let the creator field be required for every new tiddler

[Tobias Beer]

Hi Stephan,

While it won't help with editing conflcts, that sounds like a good practice.

Added here: Review UserName On Startup @ tb5 
http://tb5.tiddlyspot.com/#Review%20UserName%20On%20Startup

While instructional, I don't see a need for any reveals, though.

Best wishes, Tobias. 

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[tw] Re: New Google Group Settings

[Tobias Beer]

Excellent! The times of complaining about google groups have come to an end.

Best wishes, Tobias.

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Re: [tw] Translating TW5 to spanish: Issues making TW5 work on node.

[Paulus]

Nothing to apologise. I'll better let node aside by now and get hands on
translating. I'll retry on node when coming up to the server side of TW.

2015-01-28 15:02 GMT+01:00 Jeremy Ruston jeremy.rus...@gmail.com:

 Apologies, it wasn't about blame, so much as the size of the pool of
 people who may be able to help; a problem with installing Node.js is a nice
 straightforward thing to search for on google for example,

 Best wishes

 jeremy

 On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 2:01 PM, Paulus pau...@alamier.com wrote:

 Not blaming anyone. Just asking in case someone recognises the case and
 gives a helping hand.
 I'll work in the browser, on my local copy.

 P.-)

 2015-01-28 14:53 GMT+01:00 Jeremy Ruston jeremy.rus...@gmail.com:



 On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Pau Deluca pau...@alamier.com wrote:

 No issues experienced with apt-get, nor referred on linuxmint forums,
 as far as I know :(


 OK, but you can see that the problem we're faced with now has nothing to
 do with TiddlyWiki: it's that node.js isn't properly installed. That makes
 it hopefully a much more common problem to diagnose :)

 Best wishes

 Jermey.





 El miércoles, 28 de enero de 2015, 14:30:05 (UTC+1), Jeremy Ruston
 escribió:

 Hi Pau

  node --version
  #but still no reply.

 That seems very weird; if node were not installed one would expect to
 see an error message.

 That makes me wonder whether there's an issue with the package manager
 that you're using; I've no experience with apt-get myself, sadly.

 Best wishes

 Jeremy



 On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Pau Deluca pau...@alamier.com
 wrote:

 Hi there!

 I intend to make a full translation into spanish of TW5. I've been
 advised to translate the tiddlers working locally on node.js, after 
 forking
 and branching Jeremy's TW5 repository. However, TW5 nor node seem to 
 work.
 (e.g.:, I type tiddlywiki --version and get no reply at all).

 I would like to ask you help to figure out what could I doing wrong:
 My SO is LinuxMint 17.1-64. Git is previously installed, user and
 email duly configured.

 These are the operations I made, for you to check.

1. Github: Forked https://github.com/jermolene/TiddlyWiki5 as
https://github.com/PauDeLuca/TiddlyWiki5
https://github.com/PauDeLuca/TiddlyWiki5
2. Github: Branched master as translES and established translES
as default.
3. Console: Created folder /home/pau/GIT
4. cd GIT
5. git clone https://github.com/PauDeLuca/TiddlyWiki5
6. cd TiddlyWiki5/
7. git checkout -b translES
#everything ok so far.
8. sudo apt-get install node
#positive response. I thought that node would be installed along
with npm, but it's not. I then install npm:
9. sudo apt-get install npm
10. sudo npm install -g tiddlywiki.
#I get the following:
11. npm http GET https://registry.npmjs.org/tiddlywiki
npm http 304 https://registry.npmjs.org/tiddlywiki
/usr/local/bin/tiddlywiki - /usr/local/lib/node_modules/
tiddlywiki/tiddlywiki.js
tiddlywiki@5.1.7 /usr/local/lib/node_modules/tiddlywiki
#I then check if TW is installed by:
12. tiddlywiki --version
#no reply at all. After checking with Jeremy, I type:
13. node --version
#but still no reply.

 My geekness is totally overwhelmed, I fear. I don't know where the
 error is. Any hint or advise would be well received.

 In the meanwhile, I'll start translating directly on my local copy of
 TW5, hoping the pain to join the translated tiddlers to the fork will not
 be too much.
 Thank you all.

 P.-)

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[tw] Translating TW5 to spanish: Issues making TW5 work on node.

[Pau Deluca]

Hi there!

I intend to make a full translation into spanish of TW5. I've been advised 
to translate the tiddlers working locally on node.js, after forking and 
branching Jeremy's TW5 repository. However, TW5 nor node seem to work. 
(e.g.:, I type tiddlywiki --version and get no reply at all).

I would like to ask you help to figure out what could I doing wrong:
My SO is LinuxMint 17.1-64. Git is previously installed, user and email 
duly configured.

These are the operations I made, for you to check.

   1. Github: Forked https://github.com/jermolene/TiddlyWiki5 as 
   https://github.com/PauDeLuca/TiddlyWiki5
   2. Github: Branched master as translES and established translES as 
   default.
   3. Console: Created folder /home/pau/GIT
   4. cd GIT
   5. git clone https://github.com/PauDeLuca/TiddlyWiki5
   6. cd TiddlyWiki5/
   7. git checkout -b translES 
   #everything ok so far.
   8. sudo apt-get install node 
   #positive response. I thought that node would be installed along with 
   npm, but it's not. I then install npm:
   9. sudo apt-get install npm 
   10. sudo npm install -g tiddlywiki. 
   #I get the following:
   11. npm http GET https://registry.npmjs.org/tiddlywiki
   npm http 304 https://registry.npmjs.org/tiddlywiki
   /usr/local/bin/tiddlywiki - 
   /usr/local/lib/node_modules/tiddlywiki/tiddlywiki.js
   tiddlywiki@5.1.7 /usr/local/lib/node_modules/tiddlywiki
   #I then check if TW is installed by:
   12. tiddlywiki --version
   #no reply at all. After checking with Jeremy, I type:
   13. node --version
   #but still no reply.

My geekness is totally overwhelmed, I fear. I don't know where the error 
is. Any hint or advise would be well received.

In the meanwhile, I'll start translating directly on my local copy of TW5, 
hoping the pain to join the translated tiddlers to the fork will not be too 
much.
Thank you all.

P.-)

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Re: [tw] Translating TW5 to spanish: Issues making TW5 work on node.

[Jeremy Ruston]

On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Pau Deluca pau...@alamier.com wrote:

 No issues experienced with apt-get, nor referred on linuxmint forums, as
 far as I know :(


OK, but you can see that the problem we're faced with now has nothing to do
with TiddlyWiki: it's that node.js isn't properly installed. That makes it
hopefully a much more common problem to diagnose :)

Best wishes

Jermey.





 El miércoles, 28 de enero de 2015, 14:30:05 (UTC+1), Jeremy Ruston
 escribió:

 Hi Pau

  node --version
  #but still no reply.

 That seems very weird; if node were not installed one would expect to see
 an error message.

 That makes me wonder whether there's an issue with the package manager
 that you're using; I've no experience with apt-get myself, sadly.

 Best wishes

 Jeremy



 On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Pau Deluca pau...@alamier.com wrote:

 Hi there!

 I intend to make a full translation into spanish of TW5. I've been
 advised to translate the tiddlers working locally on node.js, after forking
 and branching Jeremy's TW5 repository. However, TW5 nor node seem to work.
 (e.g.:, I type tiddlywiki --version and get no reply at all).

 I would like to ask you help to figure out what could I doing wrong:
 My SO is LinuxMint 17.1-64. Git is previously installed, user and email
 duly configured.

 These are the operations I made, for you to check.

1. Github: Forked https://github.com/jermolene/TiddlyWiki5 as
https://github.com/PauDeLuca/TiddlyWiki5
https://github.com/PauDeLuca/TiddlyWiki5
2. Github: Branched master as translES and established translES as
default.
3. Console: Created folder /home/pau/GIT
4. cd GIT
5. git clone https://github.com/PauDeLuca/TiddlyWiki5
6. cd TiddlyWiki5/
7. git checkout -b translES
#everything ok so far.
8. sudo apt-get install node
#positive response. I thought that node would be installed along
with npm, but it's not. I then install npm:
9. sudo apt-get install npm
10. sudo npm install -g tiddlywiki.
#I get the following:
11. npm http GET https://registry.npmjs.org/tiddlywiki
npm http 304 https://registry.npmjs.org/tiddlywiki
/usr/local/bin/tiddlywiki - /usr/local/lib/node_modules/
tiddlywiki/tiddlywiki.js
tiddlywiki@5.1.7 /usr/local/lib/node_modules/tiddlywiki
#I then check if TW is installed by:
12. tiddlywiki --version
#no reply at all. After checking with Jeremy, I type:
13. node --version
#but still no reply.

 My geekness is totally overwhelmed, I fear. I don't know where the error
 is. Any hint or advise would be well received.

 In the meanwhile, I'll start translating directly on my local copy of
 TW5, hoping the pain to join the translated tiddlers to the fork will not
 be too much.
 Thank you all.

 P.-)

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[tw] Re: Using Macro Substitution as a filter parameter

[Alan Finger]

I mean that the operator  section{$:/temp/findby!!section} should only be 
applied to the filter if the field value is not Any

I'll try to post an example in the next day or so. 

Alan

On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 at 2:43:44 AM UTC-5, Stephan Hradek wrote:



 Am Mittwoch, 28. Januar 2015 08:42:13 UTC+1 schrieb Stephan Hradek:

 Could you please post a fully (non-)working example? I have difficulties 
 in understanding what you're trying to do by just looking at an image. I'd 
 prefer to be able to play around a bit with real data and not try to make 
 up test data which I made up on my own and which need not match what you 
 had in mind.

 I'm especially extremely astonished about this part: 
 [title[$:/tmp/findby]!section[Any]] What do you think should this do? I 
 have no clue what the meaning should be. Especially because there is no 
 such filter like section.


 P.S. Maybe I know! that part means: Get the tiddler  titled 
 $:/tmp/findby but only if it's field section does not contain Any!?


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Re: [tw] Translating TW5 to spanish: Issues making TW5 work on node.

[Jeremy Ruston]

Apologies, it wasn't about blame, so much as the size of the pool of people
who may be able to help; a problem with installing Node.js is a nice
straightforward thing to search for on google for example,

Best wishes

jeremy

On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 2:01 PM, Paulus pau...@alamier.com wrote:

 Not blaming anyone. Just asking in case someone recognises the case and
 gives a helping hand.
 I'll work in the browser, on my local copy.

 P.-)

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 On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Pau Deluca pau...@alamier.com wrote:

 No issues experienced with apt-get, nor referred on linuxmint forums, as
 far as I know :(


 OK, but you can see that the problem we're faced with now has nothing to
 do with TiddlyWiki: it's that node.js isn't properly installed. That makes
 it hopefully a much more common problem to diagnose :)

 Best wishes

 Jermey.





 El miércoles, 28 de enero de 2015, 14:30:05 (UTC+1), Jeremy Ruston
 escribió:

 Hi Pau

  node --version
  #but still no reply.

 That seems very weird; if node were not installed one would expect to
 see an error message.

 That makes me wonder whether there's an issue with the package manager
 that you're using; I've no experience with apt-get myself, sadly.

 Best wishes

 Jeremy



 On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Pau Deluca pau...@alamier.com wrote:

 Hi there!

 I intend to make a full translation into spanish of TW5. I've been
 advised to translate the tiddlers working locally on node.js, after 
 forking
 and branching Jeremy's TW5 repository. However, TW5 nor node seem to work.
 (e.g.:, I type tiddlywiki --version and get no reply at all).

 I would like to ask you help to figure out what could I doing wrong:
 My SO is LinuxMint 17.1-64. Git is previously installed, user and
 email duly configured.

 These are the operations I made, for you to check.

1. Github: Forked https://github.com/jermolene/TiddlyWiki5 as
https://github.com/PauDeLuca/TiddlyWiki5
https://github.com/PauDeLuca/TiddlyWiki5
2. Github: Branched master as translES and established translES as
default.
3. Console: Created folder /home/pau/GIT
4. cd GIT
5. git clone https://github.com/PauDeLuca/TiddlyWiki5
6. cd TiddlyWiki5/
7. git checkout -b translES
#everything ok so far.
8. sudo apt-get install node
#positive response. I thought that node would be installed along
with npm, but it's not. I then install npm:
9. sudo apt-get install npm
10. sudo npm install -g tiddlywiki.
#I get the following:
11. npm http GET https://registry.npmjs.org/tiddlywiki
npm http 304 https://registry.npmjs.org/tiddlywiki
/usr/local/bin/tiddlywiki - /usr/local/lib/node_modules/
tiddlywiki/tiddlywiki.js
tiddlywiki@5.1.7 /usr/local/lib/node_modules/tiddlywiki
#I then check if TW is installed by:
12. tiddlywiki --version
#no reply at all. After checking with Jeremy, I type:
13. node --version
#but still no reply.

 My geekness is totally overwhelmed, I fear. I don't know where the
 error is. Any hint or advise would be well received.

 In the meanwhile, I'll start translating directly on my local copy of
 TW5, hoping the pain to join the translated tiddlers to the fork will not
 be too much.
 Thank you all.

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Re: [tw] Re: Simple Javascript insertion in tiddlers (text/vnd.tiddlywiki)

[Stephan Hradek]

Am Mittwoch, 28. Januar 2015 12:49:27 UTC+1 schrieb Jeremy Ruston:


 Note that script tags are allowed in text/html tiddlers because they are 
 safely sandboxed in an iframe.


I'm not sure, whether or not I understand sandboxed correctly.

Please go to tiddlywiki.com

Set a username

Create a New Tiddler

Paste this into the tiddler:

script type=text/javascript
alert(hooray!\n\n
  + Your username is ' 
  + window.parent.$tw.wiki.getTiddlerText($:/status/UserName) + '\n\n +
  + And this wiki is called '
  + window.parent.$tw.wiki.getTiddlerText($:/SiteTitle)+');
/script

Set the type to text/html

Finish editing

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[tw] Re: Editor Prototype Mk II

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

 I know you are looking for feedback, so here goes. Your edit toolbar is 
 cool. Most essential though if anyone is going to use it would be *undo*. 
 I showed it to several non tiddlywiki people and they said abandon wiki 
 markup and go straight to html. The business world does not use wiki 
 markup. Tiddlywiki will always have markup as far as I know, but people who 
 don't use and wont use markup will use this if it is user friendly. I have 
 always wondered why we have an edit window with markup and a preview 
 instead of an editable preview with a toolbar like your's and a separate 
 editable code preview if you wanted to type it in html code or markup. 
 Anyway, I will be following this tread waiting for an *undo* button or 
 Ctrl-z to work.


 Andrew, thank you for your feedback. I appreciate that you made the effort.

I'll assume that you, like me, were unaware of the mouse right click Undo. 
Would that be sufficient or do you think the toolbar needs an explicit Undo 
button? 

Are you aware that you can enter tiddlers in html in the editor? Presumably 
someone who knows html but is weak in markdown or wikitext could do 
anything they wanted in html instead. 

Again, thanks for your feedback

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[tw] Re: Using Macro Substitution as a filter parameter

[Tobias Beer]

Thanks, Jed,

That's a cool example

If you know what the filters will be you can use the select widget to set a 
 field to the entire filter string and use a text reference for the filters.


Added here: filter from field @ filters 
http://filters.tiddlyspot.com/#filter%20from%20field.

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[tw] Re: Configure a default 'new tiddler'

[Bill Denbigh]

You guys are awesome. Thank you so much...

On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 at 9:35:39 AM UTC-5, Bill Denbigh wrote:

 I would like to create a 'default style' for a new tiddler, when i press 
 the + button i want the tiddler to open with some text already completed, 
 simple stuff like headings and created date and such. I'm sure there is a 
 simple way of doing it but for the life of me i can't find it, can someone 
 please direct me to the correct location to look for the information / 
 keywords to search on / anything... :)

 Thanks, Bill


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Re: [tw] Translating TW5 to spanish: Issues making TW5 work on node.

[Pau Deluca]

No issues experienced with apt-get, nor referred on linuxmint forums, as 
far as I know :(


El miércoles, 28 de enero de 2015, 14:30:05 (UTC+1), Jeremy Ruston escribió:

 Hi Pau

  node --version
  #but still no reply.

 That seems very weird; if node were not installed one would expect to see 
 an error message.

 That makes me wonder whether there's an issue with the package manager 
 that you're using; I've no experience with apt-get myself, sadly.

 Best wishes

 Jeremy



 On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Pau Deluca pau...@alamier.com 
 javascript: wrote:

 Hi there!

 I intend to make a full translation into spanish of TW5. I've been 
 advised to translate the tiddlers working locally on node.js, after forking 
 and branching Jeremy's TW5 repository. However, TW5 nor node seem to work. 
 (e.g.:, I type tiddlywiki --version and get no reply at all).

 I would like to ask you help to figure out what could I doing wrong:
 My SO is LinuxMint 17.1-64. Git is previously installed, user and email 
 duly configured.

 These are the operations I made, for you to check.

1. Github: Forked https://github.com/jermolene/TiddlyWiki5 as 
https://github.com/PauDeLuca/TiddlyWiki5
2. Github: Branched master as translES and established translES as 
default.
3. Console: Created folder /home/pau/GIT
4. cd GIT
5. git clone https://github.com/PauDeLuca/TiddlyWiki5
6. cd TiddlyWiki5/
7. git checkout -b translES 
#everything ok so far.
8. sudo apt-get install node 
#positive response. I thought that node would be installed along with 
npm, but it's not. I then install npm:
9. sudo apt-get install npm 
10. sudo npm install -g tiddlywiki. 
#I get the following:
11. npm http GET https://registry.npmjs.org/tiddlywiki
npm http 304 https://registry.npmjs.org/tiddlywiki
/usr/local/bin/tiddlywiki - 
/usr/local/lib/node_modules/tiddlywiki/tiddlywiki.js
tiddlywiki@5.1.7 /usr/local/lib/node_modules/tiddlywiki
#I then check if TW is installed by:
12. tiddlywiki --version
#no reply at all. After checking with Jeremy, I type:
13. node --version
#but still no reply.

 My geekness is totally overwhelmed, I fear. I don't know where the error 
 is. Any hint or advise would be well received.

 In the meanwhile, I'll start translating directly on my local copy of 
 TW5, hoping the pain to join the translated tiddlers to the fork will not 
 be too much.
 Thank you all.

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Re: [tw] Re: Simple Javascript insertion in tiddlers (text/vnd.tiddlywiki)

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Stephan

Good catch. It seems to depend on the browser: Firefox seems to allow the
cross domain access, but Safari and Chrome do not allow it in my tests.
I'll investigate whether adding the sandbox attribute improves things.

Best wishes

Jeremy.


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 Am Mittwoch, 28. Januar 2015 12:49:27 UTC+1 schrieb Jeremy Ruston:


 Note that script tags are allowed in text/html tiddlers because they are
 safely sandboxed in an iframe.


 I'm not sure, whether or not I understand sandboxed correctly.

 Please go to tiddlywiki.com

 Set a username

 Create a New Tiddler

 Paste this into the tiddler:

 script type=text/javascript
 alert(hooray!\n\n
   + Your username is '
   + window.parent.$tw.wiki.getTiddlerText($:/status/UserName) + '\n\n
 +
   + And this wiki is called '
   + window.parent.$tw.wiki.getTiddlerText($:/SiteTitle)+');
 /script

 Set the type to text/html

 Finish editing

 Hooray!





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[tw] Re: [TW5] drop here or click escape to cancel

[Peter Miller]

If that's the case, why does it say click? Surely it should say press? 

Peter

On Monday, November 10, 2014 at 9:52:20 PM UTC, Birthe C wrote:

 When you drag at tiddler into your wiki, you see the green bar...and until 
 you drop, you can press esc on your keyboard to cancel.


 Birthe

 Den mandag den 10. november 2014 22.35.46 UTC+1 skrev dlu...@emich.edu:

 Every time I import a tiddler, there is a persistent green bar that 
 appears at the top of my browser window that says Drop here (or click 
 escape to cancel). It remains there until I refresh the browser window. And 
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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] drop here or click escape to cancel

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Peter

On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 9:10 AM, Peter Miller pmil...@liv.ac.uk wrote:

 If that's the case, why does it say click? Surely it should say press?


Well spotted, I guess that's a typo. I've fixed it for 5.1.8:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/ba971a2d2b2e909a37d0434e4b0b804893c4dc77

Best wishes

Jeremy.





 Peter


 On Monday, November 10, 2014 at 9:52:20 PM UTC, Birthe C wrote:

 When you drag at tiddler into your wiki, you see the green bar...and
 until you drop, you can press esc on your keyboard to cancel.


 Birthe

 Den mandag den 10. november 2014 22.35.46 UTC+1 skrev dlu...@emich.edu:

 Every time I import a tiddler, there is a persistent green bar that
 appears at the top of my browser window that says Drop here (or click
 escape to cancel). It remains there until I refresh the browser window. And
 there is nothing to click. What am I supposed to click?

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[tw] Re: New Google Group Settings

[Danielo Rodríguez]

I can't see any difference. Where are those new features? Like Me Too 
Topic or Mark favorite Reply?

El miércoles, 28 de enero de 2015, 10:09:55 (UTC+1), Jeremy Ruston escribió:

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 that I didn't know about. I've now made the following configuration changes 
 to both of these discussion groups:

 ! Posting Permissions

 Change Add references from None to All members of group. I've no 
 idea what references are but thought they may be worth exploring

 Change Post Announcements from None to All members of group. Might 
 be useful (we may want to restrict it to managers, I guess)

 Change Me Too Topic from None to All members of group.

 Change Post Rich Text Format from None to All members of group.

 ! Moderation Permissions

 Change Edit Own Posts from None to All members of group

 Change Mark Duplicate from None to All members of group

 Change Mark Favorite Reply On Any Other User's Topics from None to 
 All members of group

 Let me know how it goes,

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Let the creator field be required for every new tiddler

[Stephan Hradek]

Would it be enought to set this as the first tiddler to display?

$reveal state=$:/status/UserName type=match text=

Please set your username first.

$edit-text tiddler=$:/status/UserName tag=input type=text/
/$reveal
$reveal state=$:/status/UserName type=nomatch text=

If {{$:/status/UserName}} is not your name, please change it here

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[tw] Re: Simple Javascript insertion in tiddlers (text/vnd.tiddlywiki)

[Stephan Hradek]

Go to tiddlywiki.com

Create a New Tiddler

Paste this into the tiddler:

script type=text/javascript
alert(Hooray);
/script

Set the type to text/html

Finish editing

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[tw] Re: Configure a default 'new tiddler'

[Tobias Beer]

Thanks, Jed,

Added here...

Create Tiddler From Template @ tb5 
http://tb5.tiddlyspot.com/#Create%20Tiddler%20From%20Template

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Re: [tw] Some theme changes

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Shash



 I could achieve what I really wanted but the problem now is Seamless theme
 doesn't seem to work.


Can you show us what's going wrong?

Best wishes

Jeremy



 Is there any way to get the seamless theme into my style sheet and get it
 to work. The only thing i want to remove is the box around the tiddler. Any
 help is really appreciated.

 Thanks!
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[tw] New Google Group Settings

[Jeremy Ruston]

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that I didn't know about. I've now made the following configuration changes
to both of these discussion groups:

! Posting Permissions

Change Add references from None to All members of group. I've no idea
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Change Post Announcements from None to All members of group. Might be
useful (we may want to restrict it to managers, I guess)

Change Me Too Topic from None to All members of group.

Change Post Rich Text Format from None to All members of group.

! Moderation Permissions

Change Edit Own Posts from None to All members of group

Change Mark Duplicate from None to All members of group

Change Mark Favorite Reply On Any Other User's Topics from None to All
members of group

Let me know how it goes,

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[tw] Re: Editor Prototype Mk II

[Birthe C]

Hi Stephen

I like your buttons. You do not have too many, I would not miss any of 
them. They are clear and understandable. I use Windows 7 and Firefox 35.01. 
I tried your demo  yesterday and it worked, but I found that some of the 
changes I had made was gone when I saved the tiddler. It was as if I had to 
apply the same changes twice. After several tries I came to the conclusion 
that it was mostly the last change that disappeared. Making one change more 
(That I did not need or  wanted solved that problem) 

I just tried your last incarnation and those problems are gone. I do not 
miss an undo button. Mouse is not far away and right mouse button undo 
removes the last change I made.

The table helper for excel is pure gold ;-)

When I first tried your demo I found that it really worked the best having 
the preview window open. The version today works very well without.

I have 2 friends I have been trying to get to use TW. They were both here 
when I tested, so I asked them to try your demo. They are not skilled 
computer users but both said, that they would definitely give TW another go 
with this.

I hope more people will try it out primarily people with other OS and 
browser.

Birthe

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[tw] Re: New Google Group Settings

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me too.

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[tw] Re: Can I have ribbon on a specific tiddler?

[Tobias Beer]

Yes, you could create a Conditional ViewTemplate Section 
http://tb5.tiddlyspot.com/#Conditional%20ViewTemplate%20Section.

Set a field *ribbon* for every tiddler you want to show it.
Then create a conditional template checking for it, e.g.

$list filter=[all[current]has[ribbon]]
div class=ribbon
{{!!ribbon}}
/div
/$list

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[tw] Re: New Google Group Settings

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Danielo

On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 9:24 AM, Danielo Rodríguez rdani...@gmail.com
wrote:

 I can't see any difference. Where are those new features? Like Me Too
 Topic or Mark favorite Reply?


I'm not the expert on Google Groups, I'm afraid, but I guess these things
are documented in the Google Groups help.

For me at least I'm seeing an edit option for my own posts.

Best wishes

Jeremy


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 escribió:

 Arc Acorn discovered that Google Groups has several permission settings
 that I didn't know about. I've now made the following configuration changes
 to both of these discussion groups:

 ! Posting Permissions

 Change Add references from None to All members of group. I've no
 idea what references are but thought they may be worth exploring

 Change Post Announcements from None to All members of group. Might
 be useful (we may want to restrict it to managers, I guess)

 Change Me Too Topic from None to All members of group.

 Change Post Rich Text Format from None to All members of group.

 ! Moderation Permissions

 Change Edit Own Posts from None to All members of group

 Change Mark Duplicate from None to All members of group

 Change Mark Favorite Reply On Any Other User's Topics from None to
 All members of group

 Let me know how it goes,

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Re: [tw] Re: Combining numbered and bullet lists breaks the numbering

[Tobias Beer]

 Perhaps this should be mentioned in the documentation.


It is, the very last section in...

Lists in WikiText http://tiddlywiki.com/#Lists%20in%20WikiText

Perhaps those long tiddlers need a little splicing up.

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[tw] Re: Using Macro Substitution as a filter parameter

[Alan Finger]

That works well for one variable. The problem is that I have two: section 
and sourcedoc so I need to try to get concatenation working.

Alan

On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 at 9:02:17 AM UTC-5, Tobias Beer wrote:

 Thanks, Jed,

 That's a cool example

 If you know what the filters will be you can use the select widget to set 
 a field to the entire filter string and use a text reference for the 
 filters.


 Added here: filter from field @ filters 
 http://filters.tiddlyspot.com/#filter%20from%20field.

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Re: [tw] Re: TW5 rules to import files based on its extension.

[Danielo Rodríguez]

El miércoles, 28 de enero de 2015, 14:07:47 (UTC+1), Jeremy Ruston escribió:

 Hi Danielo

 Hello Jeremy, glad to see you here again.
 

 If a folder within a wiki folder contains a tiddlywiki.files file, then TW 
 just processes the specified files, and doesn't scan the folder or it's 
 subfolders.


I deducted this from the code comments. Anyway, I have folders where NO 
tiddlywiki.files is present and it is not importing the images or the plain 
text files.
 


 Can you share the relevant wiki folders?


I don't understand this request. Is any normal wiki folder with text files 
and images inside it (as an example, I expect .js and css files to be 
imported too)

Regards.
 


 Best wishes

 Jeremy.


 On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 9:27 PM, Danielo Rodríguez rdan...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote:

 I sould like to hear something from the core-gurus. 
 Thank you all.

 El martes, 27 de enero de 2015, 15:52:09 (UTC+1), Danielo Rodríguez 
 escribió:

 loadTiddlersFromFile calls deserializeTiddlers passing the extension as 
 type. And the deserializeTiddlers function imports the file even if the 
 extension is not recognized, treating it as a plain text file, so every 
 file should be imported. Then, why it is not importing all the files inside 
 the tiddlers file, or even better, all the tiddlers specify on the 
 defualt-tiddlers-location option?

 El martes, 27 de enero de 2015, 15:43:14 (UTC+1), Danielo Rodríguez 
 escribió:

 loadTiddlersFromFile seems to rely on the registered extensions to 
 load a tiddler. Based on this information, I think at least mp3,pnj,jpg, 
 and basically all file types that TW can understand should be correctly 
 included as tiddlers. But this is not happening, and I don't understand 
 why. Dioes anyone have any clue? 

 El martes, 27 de enero de 2015, 15:15:33 (UTC+1), Danielo Rodríguez 
 escribió:

 Meta files can be also used, which are easier to build, but they did 
 not accept relative notation, so we are facing a similar problem.
 I found that in the core there is a map on file types based on its 
 extension:

 https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/
 7abe9aa53d9b1ec19e2afe1c5ace1c7633b0d5ce/boot/boot.js#L1748

 But it does not see to work when scanning folders. Maybe a boot module 
 for that is enough, but I would like to see any example. Is there any 
 part 
 of the core that does something similar? Where is the code that scans the 
 tiddlers folder recursively?

 El martes, 27 de enero de 2015, 15:03:17 (UTC+1), Felix Küppers 
 escribió:

 Good point. There are many node js projects that deal with glob 
 notations. Maybe it is possible to use a node module for this purpose.

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Strange duplicate display of tiddlywiki in browser window

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Peter

Good idea. I've added a note in GettingStarted for 5.1.8:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/2db6cbed2d1f81483251c49c75721f066cfd6a29

Best wishes

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On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 5:05 PM, pMotz peter.mottis...@gmail.com wrote:

 My guess is that a number of new users will encounter this problem, so it
 would be worth addressing. A comment in the GettingStarted tiddler is
 probably sufficient. Something like If the TiddlyWiki you downloaded does
 not behave as expected make sure you clicked the green download button and 
 *did
 not* use the browser save page function.

 Best wishes,
 Peter.

 On Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:36:33 UTC, Jeremy Ruston wrote:


 On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 9:29 PM, PMario pmar...@gmail.com wrote:

 This TW is definitely broken. An empty.html file is at least 1.2 MByte
 in size. You file is smaller, so you may have downloaded it with File: Save
 as dialog, which doesn't work.

 Click the big green button download empty or download full and try
 again.

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 This is an interesting problem that has cropped up since the early days
 of TW Classic.

 In all browsers but Firefox, the File/Save menu option saves a snapshot
 of the HTML file that was loaded from the server. Firefox, no doubt with
 good intentions, doesn't do that: it saves a snapshot of the current state
 of the DOM. In the case of TiddlyWiki, that means that the DOM elements
 that have been generated by JavaScript are also saved, leading to the
 double sidebar that you saw.

 Back in TW Classic we engineered a specific warning message that appeared
 when re-opening a TW file that had been saved with File/Save on Firefox.
 I'm not sure if it's worth doing that for TW5. I mean, the basic problem is
 that File/Save isn't how one saves changes in TiddlyWiki.

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Strange duplicate display of tiddlywiki in browser window

[pMotz]

My guess is that a number of new users will encounter this problem, so it 
would be worth addressing. A comment in the GettingStarted tiddler is 
probably sufficient. Something like If the TiddlyWiki you downloaded does 
not behave as expected make sure you clicked the green download button and *did 
not* use the browser save page function.

Best wishes,
Peter.

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 On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 9:29 PM, PMario pmar...@gmail.com javascript: 
 wrote:

 This TW is definitely broken. An empty.html file is at least 1.2 MByte in 
 size. You file is smaller, so you may have downloaded it with File: Save as 
 dialog, which doesn't work. 

 Click the big green button download empty or download full and try 
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 This is an interesting problem that has cropped up since the early days of 
 TW Classic.

 In all browsers but Firefox, the File/Save menu option saves a snapshot of 
 the HTML file that was loaded from the server. Firefox, no doubt with good 
 intentions, doesn't do that: it saves a snapshot of the current state of 
 the DOM. In the case of TiddlyWiki, that means that the DOM elements that 
 have been generated by JavaScript are also saved, leading to the double 
 sidebar that you saw.

 Back in TW Classic we engineered a specific warning message that appeared 
 when re-opening a TW file that had been saved with File/Save on Firefox. 
 I'm not sure if it's worth doing that for TW5. I mean, the basic problem is 
 that File/Save isn't how one saves changes in TiddlyWiki.

 Best wishes

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Re: [tw] Re: TW5 rules to import files based on its extension.

[Danielo Rodríguez]

 Tiddlers without a title are rejected here, deep in wiki.addTiddler:

 https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/master/boot/boot.js#L855

 OK, as I supposed. Thank you very much for confirming it.

 

 I think the logical place to handle this is within loadTiddlersFromFile.



I succesfuly edited the boot to achieve this this way 

if(ext !== .json  tiddlers.length === 1 ) {
metadata = fs.existsSync(metafile) ? fs.readFileSync(metafile,utf8) : 
undefined ;
if(metadata) {
tiddlers = [$tw.utils.parseFields(metadata,tiddlers[0])];
} else if( !tiddlers[0].title ){
console.log(Tiddler without title: ,JSON.stringify(tiddlers), filepath );
tiddlers[0].title = filepath.replace(/(.*[\/\\])+/,);
}
}

 But this does not seems to apply for the files that are located at 
unnoficial folders such as those specified by default-tiddlers-location 
 neither for files located at other wikis that you import via importWikis. 
Are those files managed in a different way?

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Re: [tw] Re: TW5 rules to import files based on its extension.

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Danielo

default-tiddlers-location is currently only used for writing newly
created tiddlers; tiddlers aren't automatically read from it during
startup. Wikis imported via importWikis should get your modified title
handling though, are you sure that they are not?

Best wishes

Jeremy




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wrote:


 Tiddlers without a title are rejected here, deep in wiki.addTiddler:

 https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/master/boot/boot.js#L855

 OK, as I supposed. Thank you very much for confirming it.



 I think the logical place to handle this is within loadTiddlersFromFile.



 I succesfuly edited the boot to achieve this this way

 if(ext !== .json  tiddlers.length === 1 ) {
 metadata = fs.existsSync(metafile) ? fs.readFileSync(metafile,utf8) :
 undefined ;
 if(metadata) {
 tiddlers = [$tw.utils.parseFields(metadata,tiddlers[0])];
 } else if( !tiddlers[0].title ){
 console.log(Tiddler without title: ,JSON.stringify(tiddlers), filepath );
 tiddlers[0].title = filepath.replace(/(.*[\/\\])+/,);
 }
 }

  But this does not seems to apply for the files that are located at
 unnoficial folders such as those specified by default-tiddlers-location
  neither for files located at other wikis that you import via importWikis.
 Are those files managed in a different way?




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[tw] Re: Simple Javascript insertion in tiddlers (text/vnd.tiddlywiki)

[Tobias Beer]

Hi Stephan,
 

 Go to tiddlywiki.com
 Create a New Tiddler
 Paste this into the tiddler:

 script type=text/javascript
 alert(Hooray);
 /script

 Set the type to text/html


Yes, that will do things in an encapsulaed iframe, but not in the context 
of TiddlyWiki.

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[tw] Re: Editor Prototype Mk II

[RichShumaker]

I agree with Mario SVG is excellent for TiddlyWiki buttons and it makes 
your icons usable across platforms(phones, tablets, traditional computers).

I have just started with SVG and found Tobias added the Google SVG editor 
to his TidlyWiki as a Tiddler http://tb5.tiddlyspot.com/#SVG-Edit, very 
awesome and convenient. 
If I had more experience making SVG's I would take a stab at the Icons but 
alas I am too much of an SVG NOOB.

Thank you very much for creating this Toolbar as I think it makes it 
faster and easier for someone just starting out.
I also really like the Editor TAB in the Preview Window to give you help on 
things you might not know how to do.
So even if you are experienced with the [[Tiddlers]] and *Bullet Points you 
can still get help when needed for things you might not use a lot.
Totally unrelated I find myself using the Community Search 
https://rawgit.com/erwanm/tw-aggregator/master/tw-community-search.html a 
lot these days and it has been very helpful.

Rich Shumaker

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[tw] Re: Using Macro Substitution as a filter parameter

[Tobias Beer]

 Looks like a good place to use a javascript macro...


That may indeed be a viable way to achieve this...

*#1427 allow text-references and variables anywhere in a filter expression*
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/1427

@Jeremy, (how) can a js macro acces a variable number of parameters?

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[tw] Re: New Google Group Settings

[Tobias Beer]

 Change Mark Duplicate from None to All members of group


 Only group managers should be able to do this.


I'd suggest we see how it goes first and if it's not working out or never 
used (properly) it can be disabled again.

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[tw] Re: New Google Group Settings

[BJ]

Good stuff! - but I am not seeing an Edit button in the dev forum.
On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 at 3:09:51 AM UTC-6, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 Arc Acorn discovered that Google Groups has several permission settings 
 that I didn't know about. I've now made the following configuration changes 
 to both of these discussion groups:

 ! Posting Permissions

 Change Add references from None to All members of group. I've no 
 idea what references are but thought they may be worth exploring

 Change Post Announcements from None to All members of group. Might 
 be useful (we may want to restrict it to managers, I guess)

 Change Me Too Topic from None to All members of group.

 Change Post Rich Text Format from None to All members of group.

 ! Moderation Permissions

 Change Edit Own Posts from None to All members of group

 Change Mark Duplicate from None to All members of group

 Change Mark Favorite Reply On Any Other User's Topics from None to 
 All members of group

 Let me know how it goes,

 Best wishes

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Let the creator field be required for every new tiddler

[Tobias Beer]

Thanks for the reminder, Danielo...

On tiddlydrive I put this on the sidebar and I make the subtitle of the 
 wiki to tell you the username you are using. In case no username is set 
 then you can read you are witting as anonymous in red.


Again, also... 

Added here: Review UserName On Startup @ tb5 
 http://tb5.tiddlyspot.com/#Review%20UserName%20On%20Startup


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Re: [tw] Re: Simple Javascript insertion in tiddlers (text/vnd.tiddlywiki)

[Tobias Beer]

 It's not hard to find. If you search the source tree for script 
 (including quotes) you'll see this in *config.js*...


Thanks for the pointers.

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[tw] Re: New Google Group Settings

[Danielo Rodríguez]

Ok, now it is working for me. Maybe it took some time.

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 Excellent! The times of complaining about google groups have come to an 
 end.

 Best wishes, Tobias.


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[tw] Re: [TW5] Let the creator field be required for every new tiddler

[Danielo Rodríguez]

On tiddlydrive I put this on the sidebar and I make the subtitle of the 
wiki to tell you the username you are using. In case no username is set 
then you can read you are witting as anonymous in red.

El miércoles, 28 de enero de 2015, 15:13:44 (UTC+1), Tobias Beer escribió:

 Hi Stephan,

 While it won't help with editing conflcts, that sounds like a good 
 practice.

 Added here: Review UserName On Startup @ tb5 
 http://tb5.tiddlyspot.com/#Review%20UserName%20On%20Startup

 While instructional, I don't see a need for any reveals, though.

 Best wishes, Tobias. 


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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Icon menus demo

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Jed

Great stuff, looks good, particularly the custom control panel tabs, I'm
impressed with your attention to detail,

Best wishes

Jeremy.


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 Hi Jed,

 Waw, and most things easy to change according to user preference. I really
 like the Right Menu Pop Out on Hover Style - or maybe not the green so
 much, but easy to change ;-) I did not find a way to use SideBar. I did try
 the button Toggle Old Sidebar from the menus, but it is covered by the
 leftmenu icons.


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Re: [tw] Re: TW5 rules to import files based on its extension.

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Danielo


 I deducted this from the code comments. Anyway, I have folders where NO
 tiddlywiki.files is present and it is not importing the images or the plain
 text files.


In both those cases you'll need a filename.meta file to give the created
tiddler an explicit title.

Best wishes

Jeremy.






 Can you share the relevant wiki folders?


 I don't understand this request. Is any normal wiki folder with text files
 and images inside it (as an example, I expect .js and css files to be
 imported too)

 Regards.



 Best wishes

 Jeremy.


 On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 9:27 PM, Danielo Rodríguez rdan...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I sould like to hear something from the core-gurus.
 Thank you all.

 El martes, 27 de enero de 2015, 15:52:09 (UTC+1), Danielo Rodríguez
 escribió:

 loadTiddlersFromFile calls deserializeTiddlers passing the extension
 as type. And the deserializeTiddlers function imports the file even if
 the extension is not recognized, treating it as a plain text file, so every
 file should be imported. Then, why it is not importing all the files inside
 the tiddlers file, or even better, all the tiddlers specify on the
 defualt-tiddlers-location option?

 El martes, 27 de enero de 2015, 15:43:14 (UTC+1), Danielo Rodríguez
 escribió:

 loadTiddlersFromFile seems to rely on the registered extensions to
 load a tiddler. Based on this information, I think at least mp3,pnj,jpg,
 and basically all file types that TW can understand should be correctly
 included as tiddlers. But this is not happening, and I don't understand
 why. Dioes anyone have any clue?

 El martes, 27 de enero de 2015, 15:15:33 (UTC+1), Danielo Rodríguez
 escribió:

 Meta files can be also used, which are easier to build, but they did
 not accept relative notation, so we are facing a similar problem.
 I found that in the core there is a map on file types based on its
 extension:

 https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/7abe9aa53d9b1e
 c19e2afe1c5ace1c7633b0d5ce/boot/boot.js#L1748

 But it does not see to work when scanning folders. Maybe a boot
 module for that is enough, but I would like to see any example. Is there
 any part of the core that does something similar? Where is the code that
 scans the tiddlers folder recursively?

 El martes, 27 de enero de 2015, 15:03:17 (UTC+1), Felix Küppers
 escribió:

 Good point. There are many node js projects that deal with glob
 notations. Maybe it is possible to use a node module for this purpose.

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Re: [tw] Re: TW5 rules to import files based on its extension.

[Danielo Rodríguez]

 In both those cases you'll need a filename.meta file to give the created 
 tiddler an explicit title.


Both? Do you mean for both types of files right? In which part of the 
boot.js code is this stated? There is no option to take the file-name as 
tiddler name by default? We have everything that we need right now: default 
type and parser for many file types, why don't implement this? Can be this 
created as a startup module?
 



 Best wishes

 Jeremy.

  

  


 Can you share the relevant wiki folders?


 I don't understand this request. Is any normal wiki folder with text 
 files and images inside it (as an example, I expect .js and css files to be 
 imported too)

 Regards.
  


 Best wishes

 Jeremy.


 On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 9:27 PM, Danielo Rodríguez rdan...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 I sould like to hear something from the core-gurus. 
 Thank you all.

 El martes, 27 de enero de 2015, 15:52:09 (UTC+1), Danielo Rodríguez 
 escribió:

 loadTiddlersFromFile calls deserializeTiddlers passing the extension 
 as type. And the deserializeTiddlers function imports the file even 
 if the extension is not recognized, treating it as a plain text file, so 
 every file should be imported. Then, why it is not importing all the 
 files 
 inside the tiddlers file, or even better, all the tiddlers specify on the 
 defualt-tiddlers-location option?

 El martes, 27 de enero de 2015, 15:43:14 (UTC+1), Danielo Rodríguez 
 escribió:

 loadTiddlersFromFile seems to rely on the registered extensions to 
 load a tiddler. Based on this information, I think at least mp3,pnj,jpg, 
 and basically all file types that TW can understand should be correctly 
 included as tiddlers. But this is not happening, and I don't understand 
 why. Dioes anyone have any clue? 

 El martes, 27 de enero de 2015, 15:15:33 (UTC+1), Danielo Rodríguez 
 escribió:

 Meta files can be also used, which are easier to build, but they did 
 not accept relative notation, so we are facing a similar problem.
 I found that in the core there is a map on file types based on its 
 extension:

 https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/7abe9aa53d9b1e
 c19e2afe1c5ace1c7633b0d5ce/boot/boot.js#L1748

 But it does not see to work when scanning folders. Maybe a boot 
 module for that is enough, but I would like to see any example. Is 
 there 
 any part of the core that does something similar? Where is the code 
 that 
 scans the tiddlers folder recursively?

 El martes, 27 de enero de 2015, 15:03:17 (UTC+1), Felix Küppers 
 escribió:

 Good point. There are many node js projects that deal with glob 
 notations. Maybe it is possible to use a node module for this purpose.

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Re: [tw] Re: TW5 rules to import files based on its extension.

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Danielo


 Both? Do you mean for both types of files right?


Yes, that's right. You might have:

myimage.jpg
myimage.jpg.meta
mytextfile.txt
mytextfile.txt.meta


 In which part of the boot.js code is this stated?


You can see in loadTiddlersFromFile the code that loads a meta file if
present:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/master/boot/boot.js#L1387

If the title isn't specified then it doesn't currently reuse the filename
as the title. It could be made to do so but has some subtleties: a single
file can yield multiple tiddlers (think TW HTML files, and .json and
.multids)


 There is no option to take the file-name as tiddler name by default? We
 have everything that we need right now: default type and parser for many
 file types, why don't implement this? Can be this created as a startup
 module?


It would be a question of changing boot.js. I agree that it would be useful.

Best wishes

Jeremy







 Best wishes

 Jeremy.






 Can you share the relevant wiki folders?


 I don't understand this request. Is any normal wiki folder with text
 files and images inside it (as an example, I expect .js and css files to be
 imported too)

 Regards.



 Best wishes

 Jeremy.


 On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 9:27 PM, Danielo Rodríguez rdan...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I sould like to hear something from the core-gurus.
 Thank you all.

 El martes, 27 de enero de 2015, 15:52:09 (UTC+1), Danielo Rodríguez
 escribió:

 loadTiddlersFromFile calls deserializeTiddlers passing the extension
 as type. And the deserializeTiddlers function imports the file even
 if the extension is not recognized, treating it as a plain text file, so
 every file should be imported. Then, why it is not importing all the 
 files
 inside the tiddlers file, or even better, all the tiddlers specify on the
 defualt-tiddlers-location option?

 El martes, 27 de enero de 2015, 15:43:14 (UTC+1), Danielo Rodríguez
 escribió:

 loadTiddlersFromFile seems to rely on the registered extensions to
 load a tiddler. Based on this information, I think at least mp3,pnj,jpg,
 and basically all file types that TW can understand should be correctly
 included as tiddlers. But this is not happening, and I don't understand
 why. Dioes anyone have any clue?

 El martes, 27 de enero de 2015, 15:15:33 (UTC+1), Danielo Rodríguez
 escribió:

 Meta files can be also used, which are easier to build, but they
 did not accept relative notation, so we are facing a similar problem.
 I found that in the core there is a map on file types based on its
 extension:

 https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/7abe9aa53d9b1e
 c19e2afe1c5ace1c7633b0d5ce/boot/boot.js#L1748

 But it does not see to work when scanning folders. Maybe a boot
 module for that is enough, but I would like to see any example. Is 
 there
 any part of the core that does something similar? Where is the code 
 that
 scans the tiddlers folder recursively?

 El martes, 27 de enero de 2015, 15:03:17 (UTC+1), Felix Küppers
 escribió:

 Good point. There are many node js projects that deal with glob
 notations. Maybe it is possible to use a node module for this purpose.

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] node.js tiddlywiki over ssl possible

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Captain Packers

The TW5 source doesn't currently support acting as an SSL server. As Daniel
says, the expectation is that in production people would want to terminate
their SSL connection with something more standard than TiddlyWiki.

Best wishes

Jeremy

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wrote:


 You can do SSL directly from a node server -- I don't know if Jeremy has
 actually done it with the TW server, but it's not especially difficult.
 However it's often a good idea to do SSL through a well-used and mature
 proxy like nginx or apache.  Then your attack service is a bit narrower
 (well not exactly narrower.. just more battle-tested).

 Cheers
 ;Daniel


 On 23 January 2015 at 08:25, Captain Packers drdl...@gmail.com wrote:

 So I need to set up a proxy server?

 On Thursday, January 22, 2015 at 11:58:00 AM UTC-5, PMario wrote:

 TW doesn't need  MySQL + PHP + Perl

 So you basically would have enough with an xa Apache environment and
 apache set up as a proxy.

 Do you want to expose your node tw to the web?

 -mario

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[tw] Re: Theme tweaks for TableOfContentsMacro

[Jed Carty]

On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 at 12:00:36 PM UTC-7, Shash wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 
 I am trying to use the Tabbed version of TableOfContentsMacro. I wish to 
 change the background of the tabs.. Is there a easy way to achieve this with 
 stylesheets.
 
 
 Thanks!
 Shash

I have looked at this a little and didn't see an obvious solution, I will 
hopefully have time to look again soon. The macros are defined in the tiddler 
$:/core/macros/toc if you want to try looking at modifying them

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[tw] Re: New Google Group Settings

[PMario]

On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 at 10:09:51 AM UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 ! Moderation Permissions

 Change Edit Own Posts from None to All members of group


IMO ok.
 

 Change Mark Duplicate from None to All members of group


Only group managers should be able to do this.



Every post has a mark as complete now. IMO only the OP author, managers 
should be able to set this option

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[tw] Re: Editor Prototype Mk II

[PMario]

The disappearing formatting seems to be fixed.
The last 3 icons seem to be fine now. 

The icons should be SVGs. The PNGs don't scale well with a browser zooming 
factor.

If you convert h2heading /h2  imo it should be
!! heading 2 ... see the space. It has much better readability in edit mode.

There are some problems with activate formatting and selected text. ... I 
think I'll create a video for those, since they are complicated to explain 
in text only.

have fun!
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Re: [tw] Re: TW5 rules to import files based on its extension.

[Danielo Rodríguez]

El miércoles, 28 de enero de 2015, 22:51:04 (UTC+1), Jeremy Ruston escribió:

 Hi Danielo


Hello Jeremy,

Wikis imported via importWikis should get your modified title handling 
 though, are you sure that they are not?


Yes they are. This is a small mix of confusing things from my side. For 
some reason I lived in a reality where tiddlers created under default 
tiddlers location were loaded at boot. Also I got a tiddlywiki.files file 
on the wiki I was importing. Now I removed that file it is importing the 
files at the tiddlers sub-folder of the wiki being imported . It is 
behaving as expected. The big confusion for me, as I said, is that I was 
expecting tiddlers at default tiddlers location to be loaded also. 
 


 default-tiddlers-location is currently only used for writing newly 
 created tiddlers; tiddlers aren't automatically read from it during 
 startup. 


What is the added value of this feature then? You create tiddlers that are 
displayed until you reboot the server. This is confusing (for me it was!! 
it took a complete read of filesystem.js to understood).

I have plans to use TW as a centralized index for certain folders. This is 
accomplished with a small TW subfolder on the folder that I want to include 
on the index. Something like git does. 
There are two ways to do this:

   -  something like git, where you have to build the index again when you 
   add new files, 
   - With tiddlywiki automatically scaning the folder pointed by 
   default-tiddlers-location


The structure is like this

Folder with files
 |_Regular files
 |_Regular files
 |_TW folder
|_ tiddlywiki.info
|_shell.script to build tiddlywiki.files. It points to its parent 
directory
|_ tiddlers/tiddlywiki.files

Then when you add new files, you just run the shell.script to build again 
the tiddlywiki.files file. Similar to git add. This have the advantage that 
you can define sets of rules on which tags add, pre and post sections and 
so on based on extension, but it depends on you building the index. I is 
soo close right now to the automatically load process directly from TW5 
that is frustrating to not reach that objective. Could you point me in the 
good way of doing this? Maybe editing the loadtiddler function 
from filesystemadaptor ?

Regards

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[tw] [TW5] Action Increment widget

[Jed Carty]

I have cleaned up my action-increment widget and added some documentation 
http://inmysocks.tiddlyspot.com/#ActionIncrementWidget the widget itself is 
$:/plugins/inmysocks/MathyThing/action-increment.js

I have been considering submitting a pull request but I am not sure if it 
would be generally useful enough to warrant it. So I wanted to get peoples 
opinions before I do. Also if anyone wants to try breaking it or find bugs 
I missed that would be good too.

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Re: [tw] Re: Looking for a few good TW5'rs!

[Ed Dixon]

Hi all, 

I should have posted this over a week ago but we did move this conversation 
to the Dev group in case anyone here is interested and not aware of that. 
We do plan to have a hangout tomorrow morning which I will try to record 
and Friday is the registration day so its still not too late! Please join 
us in that other thread and regardless if you go through this training, 
make the meetings, or not, know that your support, help, and the work you 
have already done in all this is so greatly appreciated and will be 
recognized. So many excellent people and outstanding works here in this 
community!

Thanks,

On Friday, January 16, 2015 at 3:13:56 PM UTC-7, Ed Dixon wrote:

 I am wide open so what ever time works best for our group here as we come 
 together (anytime) works for me.

 Since the registration for the event is a webex on the 30th I figure we 
 can work out those details as that approaches and hopefully have our first 
 meeting after that orientation. But just shooting from the hip here at this 
 point?

 On Fri Jan 16 2015 at 3:06:32 PM RichShumaker richshuma...@gmail.com 
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 Very Cool Stuff.

 I would like to help if I can so I guess the question is when are you 
 getting together?

 Rich Shumaker

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[tw] issue running in ubuntu 14.04

[Jeremiah Johnson]

ok this is driving me nuts after unpacking the zip i tried to run the nw 
and nothing.  So i ran it from the terminal and it gave me a libudev0 error 
so i created a symbolic link from libudev0 to libudev1 cause libudev0 is 
gone in ubuntu 14.04 and then i got it to launch so i moved it to my home 
folder and then it wouldn't launch again so i did the terminal launch again 
and it gave me a error with somthing like a suid sandbox thing that i 
couldn't solve.  I really like the empty verison and want to try out the 
desktop and just cant get it running?

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[tw] Re: issue running in ubuntu 14.04

[Jeremiah Johnson]

Even tried the 2nd and 3rd releases after that and they had an error w/ 
NVCtrl??

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Re: [tw] Re: TW5 rules to import files based on its extension.

[Danielo Rodríguez]

I'm thinking that this maybe worth a plugin. From within tiddlywiki, and 
only in the node versions (node.js and node-webkit). At the control pannel, 
for example, you select the folders you wan to include, and the plugin will 
scan them recursively (just the newly added folders, and the older ones on 
demand). Then the plugin will add the scanned files to the tiddlywiki.files 
file in the same directory than the wiki is. This is self-contained within 
tiddlywiki and does not  pollute the scanned folders. The only problem here 
is the routes: is there any way to make the routes linux and windows 
compatible? I know that it is possible with relative routes, but what about 
absolute ones?

Sounds this feasible?

Regards.

El miércoles, 28 de enero de 2015, 23:18:17 (UTC+1), Danielo Rodríguez 
escribió:



 El miércoles, 28 de enero de 2015, 22:51:04 (UTC+1), Jeremy Ruston 
 escribió:

 Hi Danielo


 Hello Jeremy,

 Wikis imported via importWikis should get your modified title handling 
 though, are you sure that they are not?


 Yes they are. This is a small mix of confusing things from my side. For 
 some reason I lived in a reality where tiddlers created under default 
 tiddlers location were loaded at boot. Also I got a tiddlywiki.files file 
 on the wiki I was importing. Now I removed that file it is importing the 
 files at the tiddlers sub-folder of the wiki being imported . It is 
 behaving as expected. The big confusion for me, as I said, is that I was 
 expecting tiddlers at default tiddlers location to be loaded also. 
  


 default-tiddlers-location is currently only used for writing newly 
 created tiddlers; tiddlers aren't automatically read from it during 
 startup. 


 What is the added value of this feature then? You create tiddlers that are 
 displayed until you reboot the server. This is confusing (for me it was!! 
 it took a complete read of filesystem.js to understood).

 I have plans to use TW as a centralized index for certain folders. This is 
 accomplished with a small TW subfolder on the folder that I want to include 
 on the index. Something like git does. 
 There are two ways to do this:

-  something like git, where you have to build the index again when 
you add new files, 
- With tiddlywiki automatically scaning the folder pointed by 
default-tiddlers-location


 The structure is like this

 Folder with files
  |_Regular files
  |_Regular files
  |_TW folder
 |_ tiddlywiki.info
 |_shell.script to build tiddlywiki.files. It points to its parent 
 directory
 |_ tiddlers/tiddlywiki.files

 Then when you add new files, you just run the shell.script to build again 
 the tiddlywiki.files file. Similar to git add. This have the advantage that 
 you can define sets of rules on which tags add, pre and post sections and 
 so on based on extension, but it depends on you building the index. I is 
 soo close right now to the automatically load process directly from TW5 
 that is frustrating to not reach that objective. Could you point me in the 
 good way of doing this? Maybe editing the loadtiddler function 
 from filesystemadaptor ?

 Regards


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[tw] Re: Simple Javascript insertion in tiddlers (text/vnd.tiddlywiki)

[Stephan Hradek]

Please look further down the thread. The encapsulated javascript can 
access window.parent.$tw and its children.

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Re: [tw] Re: Theme tweaks for TableOfContentsMacro

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Shash

You could try something like this. In a stylesheet tiddler:

.my-table-of-contents .tc-table-of-contents {
background: red;
}

.my-table-of-contents .tc-tabbed-table-of-contents .tc-table-of-contents
.toc-item  a {
border-color: green;
}

Then wrap the toc with a DIV like this:

div class=my-table-of-contents
$macrocall $name=toc-tabbed-internal-nav tag=TableOfContents
selectedTiddler=$:/temp/toc/selectedTiddler unselectedText=pSelect a
topic in the table of contents. Click the arrow to expand a topic./p
missingText=pMissing tiddler./p/
/div

Best wishes

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On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Jed Carty inmyso...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 at 12:00:36 PM UTC-7, Shash wrote:
  Hi all,
 
 
  I am trying to use the Tabbed version of TableOfContentsMacro. I wish to
 change the background of the tabs.. Is there a easy way to achieve this
 with stylesheets.
 
 
  Thanks!
  Shash

 I have looked at this a little and didn't see an obvious solution, I will
 hopefully have time to look again soon. The macros are defined in the
 tiddler $:/core/macros/toc if you want to try looking at modifying them

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Re: [tw] Translating TW5 to spanish: Issues making TW5 work on node.

[Xavier Cazin]

Hi Pau,

From
tiddlywiki --version
#no reply at all.

I'd say /usr/local/bin is not in your PATH (eventhough I would have
expected at least a response from you shell complaining that it can't find
the command). What about:

export PATH=/usr/local/bin:$PATH
tiddlywiki --version

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wrote:

 Hello paul

 did you tried locate node? try with
 locate node

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Re: [tw] Re: Simple Javascript insertion in tiddlers (text/vnd.tiddlywiki)

[Jeremy Ruston]

TiddlyWiki is designed to block JavaScript in wiki text content to make
sure that it is safe to share wiki text content. It's necessary so that we
can explore multi-user server configurations and federation. If the act of
viewing content authored by someone else causes executable JS code to run
then it becomes possible for a malicious actor to, for example, craft a
message that actually contains code to steal or delete your personal
information.

So, in TW5, there is a strict distinction between wiki text tiddlers
(text/vnd.tiddlywiki) and JavaScript module tiddlers (type text/javascript,
and with a module-type field). That allows us to filter content from other
sources to ensure that we don't allow executable code.

Obviously, these aren't concerns for many users who are working privately.
We can serve their needs with a plugin that explicitly enables inline
JavaScript, but it's not something that will ever be supported directly by
the core.

Best wishes

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wrote:

 Yeah but I think that this method is not really nice since I want to put
 the javascript in a tiddler (text/vnd.tiddlywiki)


 On Wednesday, 28 January 2015 06:44:47 UTC-5, Stephan Hradek wrote:

 Go to tiddlywiki.com

 Create a New Tiddler

 Paste this into the tiddler:

 script type=text/javascript
 alert(Hooray);
 /script

 Set the type to text/html

 Finish editing

 Hooray!

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Strange duplicate display of tiddlywiki in browser window

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On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 9:29 PM, PMario pmari...@gmail.com wrote:

 This TW is definitely broken. An empty.html file is at least 1.2 MByte in
 size. You file is smaller, so you may have downloaded it with File: Save as
 dialog, which doesn't work.

 Click the big green button download empty or download full and try
 again.

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This is an interesting problem that has cropped up since the early days of
TW Classic.

In all browsers but Firefox, the File/Save menu option saves a snapshot of
the HTML file that was loaded from the server. Firefox, no doubt with good
intentions, doesn't do that: it saves a snapshot of the current state of
the DOM. In the case of TiddlyWiki, that means that the DOM elements that
have been generated by JavaScript are also saved, leading to the double
sidebar that you saw.

Back in TW Classic we engineered a specific warning message that appeared
when re-opening a TW file that had been saved with File/Save on Firefox.
I'm not sure if it's worth doing that for TW5. I mean, the basic problem is
that File/Save isn't how one saves changes in TiddlyWiki.

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Re: [tw] Re: TW5 rules to import files based on its extension.

[Danielo Rodríguez]

  

 In which part of the boot.js code is this stated?


 You can see in loadTiddlersFromFile the code that loads a meta file if 
 present:

 https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/master/boot/boot.js#L1387

 If the title isn't specified then it doesn't currently reuse the filename 
 as the title. It could be made to do so but has some subtleties: a single 
 file can yield multiple tiddlers (think TW HTML files, and .json and 
 .multids)


I thin this is handled on this line: 
 (https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/master/boot/boot.js#L1396)

if(ext !== .json  tiddlers.length === 1  fs.existsSync(metafile)) {

Also I think that the deserializeTiddlers function takes care of searching 
tiddlers inside a particular file . Isn't it? It goes through all the known 
parsers (so json and HTML files will be correctly parsed ). What is the 
problem then?
 

  

 There is no option to take the file-name as tiddler name by default? We 
 have everything that we need right now: default type and parser for many 
 file types, why don't implement this? Can be this created as a startup 
 module?


 It would be a question of changing boot.js. I agree that it would be 
 useful.

 Best wishes

 Jeremy

  

  



 Best wishes

 Jeremy.

  

  


 Can you share the relevant wiki folders?


 I don't understand this request. Is any normal wiki folder with text 
 files and images inside it (as an example, I expect .js and css files to 
 be 
 imported too)

 Regards.
  


 Best wishes

 Jeremy.


 On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 9:27 PM, Danielo Rodríguez rdan...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 I sould like to hear something from the core-gurus. 
 Thank you all.

 El martes, 27 de enero de 2015, 15:52:09 (UTC+1), Danielo Rodríguez 
 escribió:

 loadTiddlersFromFile calls deserializeTiddlers passing the 
 extension as type. And the deserializeTiddlers function imports the 
 file even if the extension is not recognized, treating it as a plain 
 text 
 file, so every file should be imported. Then, why it is not importing 
 all 
 the files inside the tiddlers file, or even better, all the tiddlers 
 specify on the defualt-tiddlers-location option?

 El martes, 27 de enero de 2015, 15:43:14 (UTC+1), Danielo Rodríguez 
 escribió:

 loadTiddlersFromFile seems to rely on the registered extensions to 
 load a tiddler. Based on this information, I think at least 
 mp3,pnj,jpg, 
 and basically all file types that TW can understand should be 
 correctly 
 included as tiddlers. But this is not happening, and I don't 
 understand 
 why. Dioes anyone have any clue? 

 El martes, 27 de enero de 2015, 15:15:33 (UTC+1), Danielo Rodríguez 
 escribió:

 Meta files can be also used, which are easier to build, but they 
 did not accept relative notation, so we are facing a similar problem.
 I found that in the core there is a map on file types based on its 
 extension:

 https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/7abe9aa53d9b1e
 c19e2afe1c5ace1c7633b0d5ce/boot/boot.js#L1748

 But it does not see to work when scanning folders. Maybe a boot 
 module for that is enough, but I would like to see any example. Is 
 there 
 any part of the core that does something similar? Where is the code 
 that 
 scans the tiddlers folder recursively?

 El martes, 27 de enero de 2015, 15:03:17 (UTC+1), Felix Küppers 
 escribió:

 Good point. There are many node js projects that deal with glob 
 notations. Maybe it is possible to use a node module for this 
 purpose.

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[tw] Re: Simple Javascript insertion in tiddlers (text/vnd.tiddlywiki)

[Jimmy Armand]

In fact what would be nice is to be able to import javascript directly in 
the tiddler, like we can do with the style/style tags. With css it's 
easy: Create a tiddler put your css et voilà

The same would have been nice (a major nice to have IMO) to have

On Tuesday, 27 January 2015 14:43:24 UTC-5, PMario wrote:

 Hi Jimmy, 

 TiddlyWiki 5 doesn't use jQuery anymore. 

 script tags in the tiddler source are not executed, due to security 
 restrictions. 

 The tw2/source tree is only there to test the TWclassic build procedure. 

 Can you explain, what you want to achieve?

 -mario


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[tw] Re: Simple Javascript insertion in tiddlers (text/vnd.tiddlywiki)

[Jimmy Armand]

Yeah but I think that this method is not really nice since I want to put 
the javascript in a tiddler (text/vnd.tiddlywiki)

On Wednesday, 28 January 2015 06:44:47 UTC-5, Stephan Hradek wrote:

 Go to tiddlywiki.com

 Create a New Tiddler

 Paste this into the tiddler:

 script type=text/javascript
 alert(Hooray);
 /script

 Set the type to text/html

 Finish editing

 Hooray!



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Re: [tw] Re: TW5 rules to import files based on its extension.

[Jeremy Ruston]

 What is the problem then?

There's no problem, the necessary code just needs to be written and tested
:)

Best wishes

Jeremy.


On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 4:12 PM, Danielo Rodríguez rdani...@gmail.com
wrote:



 In which part of the boot.js code is this stated?


 You can see in loadTiddlersFromFile the code that loads a meta file if
 present:

 https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/master/boot/boot.js#L1387

 If the title isn't specified then it doesn't currently reuse the filename
 as the title. It could be made to do so but has some subtleties: a single
 file can yield multiple tiddlers (think TW HTML files, and .json and
 .multids)


 I thin this is handled on this line:  (
 https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/master/boot/boot.js#L1396)

 if(ext !== .json  tiddlers.length === 1  fs.existsSync(metafile)) {

 Also I think that the deserializeTiddlers function takes care of
 searching tiddlers inside a particular file . Isn't it? It goes through all
 the known parsers (so json and HTML files will be correctly parsed ). What
 is the problem then?




 There is no option to take the file-name as tiddler name by default? We
 have everything that we need right now: default type and parser for many
 file types, why don't implement this? Can be this created as a startup
 module?


 It would be a question of changing boot.js. I agree that it would be
 useful.

 Best wishes

 Jeremy







 Best wishes

 Jeremy.






 Can you share the relevant wiki folders?


 I don't understand this request. Is any normal wiki folder with text
 files and images inside it (as an example, I expect .js and css files to 
 be
 imported too)

 Regards.



 Best wishes

 Jeremy.


 On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 9:27 PM, Danielo Rodríguez rdan...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 I sould like to hear something from the core-gurus.
 Thank you all.

 El martes, 27 de enero de 2015, 15:52:09 (UTC+1), Danielo Rodríguez
 escribió:

 loadTiddlersFromFile calls deserializeTiddlers passing the
 extension as type. And the deserializeTiddlers function imports
 the file even if the extension is not recognized, treating it as a 
 plain
 text file, so every file should be imported. Then, why it is not 
 importing
 all the files inside the tiddlers file, or even better, all the 
 tiddlers
 specify on the defualt-tiddlers-location option?

 El martes, 27 de enero de 2015, 15:43:14 (UTC+1), Danielo Rodríguez
 escribió:

 loadTiddlersFromFile seems to rely on the registered extensions
 to load a tiddler. Based on this information, I think at least 
 mp3,pnj,jpg,
 and basically all file types that TW can understand should be 
 correctly
 included as tiddlers. But this is not happening, and I don't 
 understand
 why. Dioes anyone have any clue?

 El martes, 27 de enero de 2015, 15:15:33 (UTC+1), Danielo
 Rodríguez escribió:

 Meta files can be also used, which are easier to build, but they
 did not accept relative notation, so we are facing a similar problem.
 I found that in the core there is a map on file types based on
 its extension:

 https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/7abe9aa53d9b1e
 c19e2afe1c5ace1c7633b0d5ce/boot/boot.js#L1748

 But it does not see to work when scanning folders. Maybe a boot
 module for that is enough, but I would like to see any example. Is 
 there
 any part of the core that does something similar? Where is the code 
 that
 scans the tiddlers folder recursively?

 El martes, 27 de enero de 2015, 15:03:17 (UTC+1), Felix Küppers
 escribió:

 Good point. There are many node js projects that deal with
 glob notations. Maybe it is possible to use a node module for this
 purpose.

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Re: [tw] Re: TW5 rules to import files based on its extension.

[Danielo Rodríguez]

Hello Jeremy, 

May you can fill the gaps in my investigation :

I know that the first function called is loadTiddlersFromPath, which calls 
itself recursively for each folder. Then for each file it calls 
loadTiddlersFromFile, who extracts all posible data based on extension from 
fileExtensioninfo. Then if it has a metadata file it is parsed, but before this 
the Tiddlers array is filled with information from deserializeTiddlers, who 
receives the extension, content, and fields. So a complete tiddler should be at 
the Tiddlers array, because deserializeTiddlers has a fallback deserializer of 
txt for unknown extensions or types. So the only thing left is the title. Then 
loadTiddlersFromFile returns an object that can represent one or more tiddlers, 
which are pushed to the Tiddlers array. At which point are the Tiddlers without 
title discarded? At which point would be better to include the title if no meta 
is given? 

Thank you. 

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Re: [tw] Re: Simple Javascript insertion in tiddlers (text/vnd.tiddlywiki)

[Jimmy Armand]

It make sens. Thanks!

On Wednesday, 28 January 2015 11:25:39 UTC-5, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 TiddlyWiki is designed to block JavaScript in wiki text content to make 
 sure that it is safe to share wiki text content. It's necessary so that we 
 can explore multi-user server configurations and federation. If the act of 
 viewing content authored by someone else causes executable JS code to run 
 then it becomes possible for a malicious actor to, for example, craft a 
 message that actually contains code to steal or delete your personal 
 information.

 So, in TW5, there is a strict distinction between wiki text tiddlers 
 (text/vnd.tiddlywiki) and JavaScript module tiddlers (type text/javascript, 
 and with a module-type field). That allows us to filter content from other 
 sources to ensure that we don't allow executable code.

 Obviously, these aren't concerns for many users who are working privately. 
 We can serve their needs with a plugin that explicitly enables inline 
 JavaScript, but it's not something that will ever be supported directly by 
 the core.

 Best wishes

 Jeremy.




 On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Jimmy Armand jimmy@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote:

 Yeah but I think that this method is not really nice since I want to put 
 the javascript in a tiddler (text/vnd.tiddlywiki)


 On Wednesday, 28 January 2015 06:44:47 UTC-5, Stephan Hradek wrote:

 Go to tiddlywiki.com

 Create a New Tiddler

 Paste this into the tiddler:

 script type=text/javascript
 alert(Hooray);
 /script

 Set the type to text/html

 Finish editing

 Hooray!

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Re: [tw] Translating TW5 to spanish: Issues making TW5 work on node.

[Paulus]

As I see, in debian-based distributions (as mine is), there is some
confusion between node and nodejs... (sh@##~f|#½|!!)
It turns out that instead of installing node, I should have invoqued
nodejs. I have now found the way to go.

So, the correct sequence for ubuntu-based systems is:

*sudo apt-get install nodejs npm*
*sudo npm install -g tiddlywiki*

Then, in order to check whether TW is installed or not:


*nodejs tiddlywiki --version*
After that, you get response from TW: 5.1.8-prerelease.

So, It seems that I finally got the things working. I now have to check the
rest, in order to proceed.
Thanks, Danielo, Xavier and Jeremy for the patience.

Yours,
P.-)

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Re: [tw] Translating TW5 to spanish: Issues making TW5 work on node.

[Danielo Rodríguez]

Hello paul

did you tried locate node? try with 
locate node

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Re: [tw] Translating TW5 to spanish: Issues making TW5 work on node.

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Pau

That's great, glad you're up and running.

The need to use `nodejs` instead of `node` will unfortunately break the
existing batch files. I've made a ticket:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/1434

Best wishes

Jeremy.


On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 6:48 PM, Paulus pau...@alamier.com wrote:

 As I see, in debian-based distributions (as mine is), there is some
 confusion between node and nodejs... (sh@##~f|#½|!!)
 It turns out that instead of installing node, I should have invoqued
 nodejs. I have now found the way to go.

 So, the correct sequence for ubuntu-based systems is:

 *sudo apt-get install nodejs npm*
 *sudo npm install -g tiddlywiki*

 Then, in order to check whether TW is installed or not:


 *nodejs tiddlywiki --version*
 After that, you get response from TW: 5.1.8-prerelease.

 So, It seems that I finally got the things working. I now have to check
 the rest, in order to proceed.
 Thanks, Danielo, Xavier and Jeremy for the patience.

 Yours,
 P.-)

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Re: [tw] Translating TW5 to spanish: Issues making TW5 work on node.

[Paulus]

Thanks, mate!

I can finally get TW work on node. Now let's see if I manage to do the rest
before next release is due :D


2015-01-28 20:02 GMT+01:00 Jeremy Ruston jeremy.rus...@gmail.com:

 Hi Pau

 That's great, glad you're up and running.

 The need to use `nodejs` instead of `node` will unfortunately break the
 existing batch files. I've made a ticket:

 https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/1434

 Best wishes

 Jeremy.


 On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 6:48 PM, Paulus pau...@alamier.com wrote:

 As I see, in debian-based distributions (as mine is), there is some
 confusion between node and nodejs... (sh@##~f|#½|!!)
 It turns out that instead of installing node, I should have invoqued
 nodejs. I have now found the way to go.

 So, the correct sequence for ubuntu-based systems is:

 *sudo apt-get install nodejs npm*
 *sudo npm install -g tiddlywiki*

 Then, in order to check whether TW is installed or not:


 *nodejs tiddlywiki --version*
 After that, you get response from TW: 5.1.8-prerelease.

 So, It seems that I finally got the things working. I now have to check
 the rest, in order to proceed.
 Thanks, Danielo, Xavier and Jeremy for the patience.

 Yours,
 P.-)

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Re: [tw] Re: TW5 rules to import files based on its extension.

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Danielo

I know that the first function called is loadTiddlersFromPath, which calls
 itself recursively for each folder. Then for each file it calls
 loadTiddlersFromFile, who extracts all posible data based on extension from
 fileExtensioninfo. Then if it has a metadata file it is parsed, but before
 this the Tiddlers array is filled with information from
 deserializeTiddlers, who receives the extension, content, and fields. So a
 complete tiddler should be at the Tiddlers array, because
 deserializeTiddlers has a fallback deserializer of txt for unknown
 extensions or types. So the only thing left is the title. Then
 loadTiddlersFromFile returns an object that can represent one or more
 tiddlers, which are pushed to the Tiddlers array. At which point are the
 Tiddlers without title discarded? At which point would be better to include
 the title if no meta is given?


Tiddlers without a title are rejected here, deep in wiki.addTiddler:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/master/boot/boot.js#L855

I think the logical place to handle this is within loadTiddlersFromFile.

Best wishes

Jeremy.




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Re: [tw] Re: Editor Prototype Mk II

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Stephen

Congratulations, this is a terrific piece of work. I'd echo your warnings
to users about being cautious with using it in it's present form, but I'm
sure that we can figure out ways to smoothly integrate the functionality.

Best wishes

Jeremy.


On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 1:45 PM, 'Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki 
tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com wrote:

 I know you are looking for feedback, so here goes. Your edit toolbar is
 cool. Most essential though if anyone is going to use it would be *undo*.
 I showed it to several non tiddlywiki people and they said abandon wiki
 markup and go straight to html. The business world does not use wiki
 markup. Tiddlywiki will always have markup as far as I know, but people who
 don't use and wont use markup will use this if it is user friendly. I have
 always wondered why we have an edit window with markup and a preview
 instead of an editable preview with a toolbar like your's and a separate
 editable code preview if you wanted to type it in html code or markup.
 Anyway, I will be following this tread waiting for an *undo* button or
 Ctrl-z to work.


  Andrew, thank you for your feedback. I appreciate that you made the
 effort.

 I'll assume that you, like me, were unaware of the mouse right click Undo.
 Would that be sufficient or do you think the toolbar needs an explicit Undo
 button?

 Are you aware that you can enter tiddlers in html in the editor?
 Presumably someone who knows html but is weak in markdown or wikitext could
 do anything they wanted in html instead.

 Again, thanks for your feedback

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