[tw5] Re: March Of The Androids -- Seeking Info On Your Usage

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Mark S.

Thanks for the detailed reply! I re-edited it and reordered it a bit, 
without comments, though with added linkage to sources. Hope I have not 
misrepresented your message? I think it tells its own story.

Best wishes, Josiah

Mark S. wrote:
>
> My circa 2012 devices are sluggish with TW, but usable in some situations. 
>
 
SYNCTHING 
(https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nutomic.syncthingandroid) 
...

> ... Syncthing *usually* works pretty well, though sometimes it needs to be 
> restarted. The thing is, it's really overkill because it encrypts 
> everything in transit.
>
 

> TW is not usually good for quick look-ups because loading time is so long. 
> But it is OK for persistent reference (like a recipe or book passages) 
> where you're going to have it on the same set of tiddlers for awhile. As an 
> e-reader, it's slow to load. But then, so is Kindle (because Kindle always 
> wants to check the net).
>
> For sending data back to the home machine, it's best if your TW app 
> consists of checkboxes or small fields (like calorie counters, todo 
> check-offs).
>
 
ANDTIDWIKI 
(https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.mgsimon.android.andtidwiki=en)

> TW loads most quickly and formats most correctly with AndTidWiki. 
> AndTidWiki can still save.
>
 
>
 ... AndTidWiki will only allow you to have one TW open at a time, which is 
> a problem if you want to go back and forth. 

 
>
... Sometimes AndTidWiki won't be able to load a TW file. A trick I've 
> learned is to go into the RAM manager and clear the memory. After that 
> AndTidWiki will run OK. 
>

ON FIREFOX...

> I'm not sure that the latest versions of FF can use any of the save 
> extensions -- that shows how seldom I use TW on FF for input... 

 
>
Firefox doesn't format correctly on my devices. In particular, when you 
> zoom in on text the text goes off screen rather than formatting to the new 
> edge. 

 

> This is why I developed the Quick 8 app for changing fonts and saving 
> their settings. But, with FF you can have multiple tabs open.
>

One of the biggest problems with Android apps, especially browsers, or at 
> least on my devices, is that Android can decide at any time to close some 
> "background" task. You can hop from a TW on FF to just take a quick peak at 
> a phone log, weather report, or ebook, and when you pop back, your FF 
> session has closed and you've lost all your tabs (but not always, 
> mysteriously it sometimes remembers them). Then you have to find your 
> bookmark, load your page, etc. 
>

PERFORMANCE?

> In general, TW performance on Android is not as good as native apps like 
> Simplenote, Evernote, etc. 
>

The various improvements to TW have weighted it down to about 2.5 Megs -- 
> the size of a substantial reference ebook. And that's before any data is 
> added. 

 
>
... Perhaps there needs to be a TW-lite edition for small devices, though I 
> don't know what features I would want to ditch.
>

-- Mark

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[tw5] Re: March Of The Androids -- Seeking Info On Your Usage

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

My circa 2012 devices are sluggish with TW, but usable in some situations. 

I use syncthing to update copies of TW files to the devices.  Syncthing 
*usually* works pretty well, though sometimes it needs to be restarted. The 
thing is, it's really overkill because it encrypts everything in transit.

TW is not usually good for quick look-ups because loading time is so long. 
But it is OK for persistent reference (like a recipe or book passages) 
where you're going to have it on the same set of tiddlers for awhile. As an 
e-reader, it's slow to load. But then, so is Kindle (because Kindle always 
wants to check the net).

For sending data back to the home machine, it's best if your TW app 
consists of checkboxes or small fields (like calorie counters, todo 
check-offs).

TW loads most quickly and formats most correctly with AndTidWiki. 
AndTidWiki can still save. I'm not sure that the latest versions of FF can 
use any of the save extensions -- that shows how seldom I use TW on FF for 
input.  Firefox doesn't format correctly on my devices. In particular, when 
you zoom in on text the text goes off screen rather than formatting to the 
new edge. This is why I developed the Quick 8 app for changing fonts and 
saving their settings. But, with FF you can have multiple tabs open. 
AndTidWiki will only allow you to have one TW open at a time, which is a 
problem if you want to go back and forth. 

Sometimes AndTidWiki won't be able to load a TW file. A trick I've learned 
is to go into the RAM manager and clear the memory. After that AndTidWiki 
will run OK.

One of the biggest problems with Android apps, especially browsers, or at 
least on my devices, is that Android can decide at any time to close some 
"background" task. You can hop from a TW on FF to just take a quick peak at 
a phone log, weather report, or ebook, and when you pop back, your FF 
session has closed and you've lost all your tabs (but not always, 
mysteriously it sometimes remembers them). Then you have to find your 
bookmark, load your page, etc. 

In general, TW performance on Android is not as good as native apps like 
Simplenote, Evernote, etc. The various improvements to TW have weighted it 
down to about 2.5 Megs -- the size of a substantial reference ebook. And 
that's before any data is added. Perhaps there needs to be a TW-lite 
edition for small devices, though I don't know what features I would want 
to ditch.

-- Mark 

On Monday, April 16, 2018 at 4:54:00 AM UTC-7, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> *March of the Androids*: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUN78LgRfHE
>
> *Since the first quarter of 2011, Google’s mobile operating system 
> , Android, has 
> steadily increased its share of the global smartphone OS market. As of the 
> fourth quarter of 2016, Android leads the global market 
> 
>  
> with an 81.7 percent market share, while Apple’s iOS is second. Android is 
> also the most often used operating system for tablet computers 
> 
>  
> worldwide, with a 66 percent share of the global market in 2016.-- 
> *Statistics 
> Portal 
> 
>
> I'm hazy on how people actually use TiddlyWiki on Android Phones & 
> Tablets. 
>
> If you using Android I'd like to learn more about how you use it for 
> TiddlyWiki. Android is dominant in the mobile market in much of the world 
> so I think it makes sense to ensure its well addressed in TW. Currently I'm 
> not that clear how folk actually practically use TW with it. 
>
> Best wishes
> Josiah
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Preparing for v5.1.16

[Matthew Lauber]

Any word on the range widget PR 
here?  https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/2988  

If there's something that needs done with it, I'm happy to add to the PR.

Thanks,
Matt Lauber

On Wednesday, April 11, 2018 at 10:10:06 PM UTC-4, Matthew Lauber wrote:
>
> Could I get the following PRs looked at for inclusion?
>
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/2988 Adding a <$range> 
> widget that supports all the features of the  element.
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/2982 Modify the is operator 
> to allow multiple types to be specified.
>
> On Saturday, April 7, 2018 at 12:17:18 PM UTC-4, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>
>> The release of v5.1.16 is overdue; the good news is that there are a lot 
>> of exciting new features:
>>
>> * Copying to the clipboard
>> * A new “sortan” filter operator for intuitive alphanumeric sorting
>> * A new “rotate left” button in the bitmap editor
>> * Comparison operators for the reveal widget
>> * Visual diffs available in the edit preview and the import listing
>> * A hugely overhauled CodeMirror plugin with many new futures, and much 
>> better extensibility and customisability
>> * Many improvements to the TextSlicer plugin, including customisability 
>> via declarative JSON rules
>> * An updated KaTeX plugin to the latest v0.9.0
>> * The new DynaView plugin for building user interfaces that respond to 
>> scrolling and zooming
>> * Sharper and more readable default fonts
>>
>> In preparation for the release, I’d be grateful for as many hands as 
>> possible to give the prerelease a try:
>>
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease
>>
>> Please try it with your favourite plugins, or perform a trial upgrade of 
>> your personal wikis. Any feedback gratefully received.
>>
>> If all goes well, we’ll release v5.1.16 in the next few days.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy.
>>
>>

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Re: [tw5] Re: NoteSelf uses local browser storage seamlessly with a remote synching server

[Arlen Beiler]

Considering that this is tied to the browser, which is tied to the
computer, I have now switched to using Dropbox synced data folders, which
work about the same. There are three or four different ways to serve them:
NodeJS TiddlyWiki, TiddlyServer, an electron-based shim which loads the
filesystem directly into the browser, and maybe TiddlyDesktop (not sure
about this one). I also have a copy of electron stored in my Dropbox, but
that is optional.

The only downside is that there is not yet a way to access a data folder
from the web, except in raw text, but I am hoping my exploration in
TiddlyWiki will one day lead to that.

Just my two cents.

On Sun, Apr 15, 2018, 17:11 Danielo Rodríguez  wrote:

>
> Hello everyone,
>
> Sorry for all the inconveniences. Yes, it is true, cloudant as an
> independent platform is being closed. However, you can sign-up for a
> bluemix account and continue to use the free tier of cloudant inside the
> bluemix platform. The problem is that sign up is not as easy as before, the
> username is not as easy to remember as before and the password is
> automatically generated, it can be changed but it is very inconvenient.
>
> I don't have much time to spend on NoteSelf lately, but my idea is to
> build a service on top of bluemix dedicated to NoteSelf, so you can just
> sign up and use the service normally, much more like evernote, and we take
> care of the rest under the hood.
> This kind of functionality will require a server, something I have to find
> where to host, and an update to the online edition to offer better support
> for this.
>
> In any case, someone has added some written instructions about how to
> create a bluemix account and how to use it with NoteSelf on the tutorial
> video about how to create a cloudant account.
>
>
> A killer feature would be if tiddlers would be encrypted transparently
>> before being sent to the server. This would give it an edge over SimpleNote
>> and Evernote, neither of which promise to encrypt your data.
>
>
> That is an Idea I have been wanting to implement for years, but I just
> delayed it.
>
> Regards
>
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[tw5] March Of The Androids -- Seeking Info On Your Usage

[@TiddlyTweeter]

*March of the Androids*: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUN78LgRfHE

*Since the first quarter of 2011, Google’s mobile operating system 
, Android, has 
steadily increased its share of the global smartphone OS market. As of the 
fourth quarter of 2016, Android leads the global market 

 
with an 81.7 percent market share, while Apple’s iOS is second. Android is 
also the most often used operating system for tablet computers 

 
worldwide, with a 66 percent share of the global market in 2016.-- *Statistics 
Portal 


I'm hazy on how people actually use TiddlyWiki on Android Phones & Tablets. 

If you using Android I'd like to learn more about how you use it for 
TiddlyWiki. Android is dominant in the mobile market in much of the world 
so I think it makes sense to ensure its well addressed in TW. Currently I'm 
not that clear how folk actually practically use TW with it. 

Best wishes
Josiah


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[tw5] Re: Preparing for v5.1.16

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Jeremy

Small point. There are references to "TiddlySpace" in the documentation at:

https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#TiddlyWiki%20in%20the%20Sky%20for%20TiddlyWeb

  and 

https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#TiddlySpace

... that maybe should be updated/removed?

  and 

https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#History%20of%20TiddlyWiki

... maybe updated not to be linked to a TiddlySpace Tiddler?

Best wishes
Josiah

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[tw5] Re: Transclusion in Markdown

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Martin Hähnel wrote:
>
> As far as I can see it's not possible to include another tiddler into a 
> markdown tiddler via the transclusion syntax: 
> {{MyTiddler}}
>


UPDATE: TiddlyWiki style Transclusion IS allowed in BJ's Markdown parser 
called "More Markdown Like" (MDL).

1 - Install http://bjtools.tiddlyspot.com/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Fbj%2Fflexitype

2 - Install 
http://bjtools.tiddlyspot.com/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Fbj%2Fmarkdownlike

Set the Content Type of a Markdown Tiddler to: 
"text/vnd.twbase;flexibility=MDL"

There is a test Tiddler for its Markdown syntax here: 
http://bjtools.tiddlyspot.com/#More%20Markdown%20Like

Best wishes
Josiah

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[tw5] Re: Create new tiddler from template fill title an jump to text field

[Robin]

I think I figgured it out

I made a template tiddler *MyTemplate*

A tiddler to store the title *MyTitle*



Tiddler Name: <$edit-text tiddler="MyTitle" tag="input" default="" class=
'tc-edit-texteditor' placeholder='Tiddler Title'/>


<$button>Make Tiddler
<$action-navigate $to={{MyTitle}}/>
<$action-setfield $tiddler='MyTemplate' $field='title' $value={{MyTitle}}/>
<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-edit-tiddler" $param={{MyTitle}}/>




Only thing left is to remove the text inside *MyTitle*


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[tw5] Re: What do "tc" and "tm" means in the tiddlywiki ecosystem ?

[@TiddlyTweeter]

GOOD to see these explanations of the CSS naming system in TW. 

Makes great sense. 

Odd I never twigged it.

Josiah

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[tw5] Re: What do "tc" and "tm" means in the tiddlywiki ecosystem ?

[PMario]

They are shortcuts, because the long version would be way to much to type ;)

On Monday, April 16, 2018 at 9:24:02 AM UTC+2, peuhpeuh singe wrote:
>
> Like in "*tm-*navigate" ?
>

tiddlywiki-message-navigate
 

> In ".*tc*-tab-buttons" ?
>

tiddlywiki-class-tab-buttons



In TiddlyWiki most "core names" are just naming conventions. ... 

The core UI eg: needs to assign some HTML classes to style UI-elements. One 
of them is a styling "tab-buttons". 

In normal cases a developer would use a class name like "tab-buttons" ... 
BUT ... 
Since TW is highly tweakable, and our users are changing almost every 
aspect of the UI, the "risk" is high that .tab-buttons would be used by a 
user. 
So if "the core" UI would use the same name, it would interfere with a user 
defined setting.  That's why tiddlywiki base classes use a prefix: tc-  
... for HTML classes. 

Which also means. Users *should _NOT define new_  *tc-, tm-, tw-, tv- ... 
tx-  prefixes. Only use them. 

As a plugin author I use my own "namespace" for new stuff: Just follow the 
link 
.
 


In the early days TW used tw- as a prefix for many different things. eg: 
tw-tab-buttons, tw-navigate, ... and so on. ... AS you can see this can get 
confusing for core devs now, since it mixes "class" and "message" names ... 

That's why the naming was changed in 5.0.16-beta 
. 

Hope that clarifies things a bit :)

have fun!
mario

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[tw5] Re: What do "tc" and "tm" means in the tiddlywiki ecosystem ?

[Jed Carty]

They are just prefixed given to the names and don't have any special 
purpose other than organising the names.

tm- is a prefix on messages used. I am not certain but I always assumed 
that it means tiddlywiki message. tc- is used to prefix css class names, 
presumably standing for tiddlywiki class.

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[tw5] What do "tc" and "tm" means in the tiddlywiki ecosystem ?

[peuhpeuh singe]

Like in "*tm-*navigate" ?

In ".*tc*-tab-buttons" ?

Thanks for sharing your knowledge !

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