date:20190102

I could see a mark as complete to the bottom left of the last comment. 
Within the forum (online view).

Regards
Tony

On Thursday, 3 January 2019 18:13:14 UTC+11, David Nebauer wrote:
>
> I don't see any way to mark this thread as resolved/solved/closed. If 
> there is a way I'd appreciate someone pointing it out. If it's an access 
> issue, someone with that access should feel free to mark this thread as 
> solved.
>
> Thanks again,
> David.
>
> On Thursday, 3 January 2019 14:16:35 UTC+9:30, David Nebauer wrote:
>>
>> The web browser I'm using with TW, qutebrowser 
>>  has a mechanism for opening 
>> an external editor when filling in forms fields. When creating a new 
>> tiddler this mechanism works with every editable field *except* for the 
>> content field, which is obviously the field for which an external editor 
>> would be most useful.
>>
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[tw5] Re: External editor works with all new tiddler field except for content field

I don't see any way to mark this thread as resolved/solved/closed. If there 
is a way I'd appreciate someone pointing it out. If it's an access issue, 
someone with that access should feel free to mark this thread as solved.

Thanks again,
David.

On Thursday, 3 January 2019 14:16:35 UTC+9:30, David Nebauer wrote:
>
> The web browser I'm using with TW, qutebrowser 
>  has a mechanism for opening 
> an external editor when filling in forms fields. When creating a new 
> tiddler this mechanism works with every editable field *except* for the 
> content field, which is obviously the field for which an external editor 
> would be most useful.
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[tw5] Re: External editor works with all new tiddler fields except for content field [SOLVED]

It seems the solution to my problem is to disable the CodeMirror plugin, 
which is no problem if I routinely use an external editor for entering 
content. Thanks to BurningTreeC for spotting the cause so quickly and to 
everyone else for their helpful input. This was my first request for help 
in this forum and I couln't be more impressed with the response.

Regards,
David.


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>
> The web browser I'm using with TW, qutebrowser 
>  has a mechanism for opening 
> an external editor when filling in forms fields. When creating a new 
> tiddler this mechanism works with every editable field *except* for the 
> content field, which is obviously the field for which an external editor 
> would be most useful.
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[tw5] Re: External editor works with all new tiddler field except for content field

Thanks, Tony M., for pointing me to the advanced search.

You may well be right about the the CodeMirror plugin. Frankly, as far as I 
know I've never used any of its features except for hghlighting matching 
parentheses, so it won't be a great hardship to do without it.

Regards,
David.

On Thursday, 3 January 2019 16:12:48 UTC+9:30, TonyM wrote:
>
> David,
>
> Search for $:/config/EditTemplateFields/Visibility/text and open the 
> advanced edit.
>
> You will then see it listed in one of the tabs and can click on it to open.
>
> Also if you stop to think about the code mirror editor, with its line 
> numbers, highlights and other features it can not be a simple text field. 
> Hence the need to toggle it off if you use something such as an external 
> editor browser plugin that uses a simple textarea to work.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Thursday, 3 January 2019 17:36:09 UTC+11, David Nebauer wrote:
>>
>> Mark S., I have to confess something embarrassing. After trawling through 
>> scads of TW documentation and related internet posts, I have seen hundreds 
>> of references to opening tiddlers with notation like 
>> "$:/config/EditTemplateFields/Visibility/text", but I have no idea how to 
>> do it. Can you give me a pointer?
>>
>> David.
>>
>> On Thursday, 3 January 2019 15:30:26 UTC+9:30, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> I suspect that it is the iframe that is used to contain the text field 
>>> that is blocking the action.
>>>
>>> You can try an experiment. Open tiddler 
>>>
>>> $:/config/EditTemplateFields/Visibility/text
>>>
>>> and change the text to "show". Now the text field will appear down with 
>>> the other fields (only a bigger box). From that text field box try 
>>> launching your external editor. 
>>>
>>> Good luck!
>>> -- Mark
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 8:46:35 PM UTC-8, David Nebauer wrote:

 The web browser I'm using with TW, qutebrowser 
  has a mechanism for 
 opening an external editor when filling in forms fields. When creating a 
 new tiddler this mechanism works with every editable field *except* for 
 the content field, which is obviously the field for which an external 
 editor would be most useful:

 [image: new-tiddler] 

 In order to troubleshoot this at the browser end I need to understand 
 what is different about the content field in comparison with the other 
 fields.

 If it helps, the mode of failure is that the external editor (gvim) 
 launches, I enter the content in the editor, and close the editor -- at 
 this point for all other fields the editor content appears in the browser 
 form field, but in the case of the content field it remains empty.

 I tried to view the page source but, of course, that showed me the 
 entire wiki. I don't have sufficient knowledge of TW to wade through that.

 [I've reported this as a TW github issue 
 , but it since 
 occurred to me it might be better discussed here.]

>>>

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[tw5] Showing the text field as it appears in Edit

Folks,

I want to include the content of another tiddlers text field however with 
it in block mode, ie not doing what wikification does and put the following 
on the one line

First line
2nd Line

<$transclude mode="block"/>
and
<$view field="text" format="text" />

Currently displays as

*First line2nd Line*

Basically I want the equivalent of wrapping the text field in triple quotes 
or triple back ticks but displayed as plain text.

Background;
I am creating a tiddler view that presents tiddlers for copy and past into 
Google groups with title and tags, and text as it is. Could be pasted into 
a new tid file and work.

Regards
Tony

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[tw5] Re: External editor works with all new tiddler field except for content field

I tried Mark S.' suggestion of 
changing $:/config/EditTemplateFields/Visibility/text to 'show' but it made 
no difference to the behaviour of the content field and external editor.

David.

On Thursday, 3 January 2019 15:30:26 UTC+9:30, Mark S. wrote:
>
> I suspect that it is the iframe that is used to contain the text field 
> that is blocking the action.
>
> You can try an experiment. Open tiddler 
>
> $:/config/EditTemplateFields/Visibility/text
>
> and change the text to "show". Now the text field will appear down with 
> the other fields (only a bigger box). From that text field box try 
> launching your external editor. 
>
> Good luck!
> -- Mark
>
> On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 8:46:35 PM UTC-8, David Nebauer wrote:
>>
>> The web browser I'm using with TW, qutebrowser 
>>  has a mechanism for opening 
>> an external editor when filling in forms fields. When creating a new 
>> tiddler this mechanism works with every editable field *except* for the 
>> content field, which is obviously the field for which an external editor 
>> would be most useful:
>>
>>
>> [image: new-tiddler] 
>> 
>>
>> In order to troubleshoot this at the browser end I need to understand 
>> what is different about the content field in comparison with the other 
>> fields.
>>
>>
>> If it helps, the mode of failure is that the external editor (gvim) 
>> launches, I enter the content in the editor, and close the editor -- at 
>> this point for all other fields the editor content appears in the browser 
>> form field, but in the case of the content field it remains empty.
>>
>> I tried to view the page source but, of course, that showed me the entire 
>> wiki. I don't have sufficient knowledge of TW to wade through that.
>>
>>
>> [I've reported this as a TW github issue 
>> , but it since 
>> occurred to me it might be better discussed here.]
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: External editor works with all new tiddler field except for content field

Thanks for the suggestion, Ton. I did toggle off the editor toolbar but it 
did not change the behaviour of the content field and external editor. I 
even restarted the TW server after turning off the toolbar, but it made no 
difference either.

Thanks again,
David.

On Thursday, 3 January 2019 15:32:26 UTC+9:30, Ton Gerner wrote:
>
> Hi David,
>
> As of v5.1.12 TiddlyWiki contains an editor toolbar which uses an iFrame 
> for the editor (editor bookmarklets ceased to work as well since then).
>
> According to @Jermolene: "The iframe was added around the textarea when we 
> added the toolbar buttons because otherwise clicking on a button will 
> remove any active selection from the textarea as a side effect of removing 
> focus".
>
> So, if you switch off the editor toolbar (Controlpanel > Settings > Editor 
> toolbar) you can use an external editor (and bookmarklets) for the text 
> field.
>
> Note: I added a toggle switch for editor toolbar (and preview) below the 
> tags field: $:/_toggle-editor-toolbar_preview, available at 
> http://tongerner.tiddlyspot.com/ (see tab 'Code tiddlers').
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ton
>
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: External editor works with all new tiddler field except for content field

David,

Search for $:/config/EditTemplateFields/Visibility/text and open the 
advanced edit.

You will then see it listed in one of the tabs and can click on it to open.

Also if you stop to think about the code mirror editor, with its line 
numbers, highlights and other features it can not be a simple text field. 
Hence the need to toggle it off if you use something such as an external 
editor browser plugin that uses a simple textarea to work.

Regards
Tony

On Thursday, 3 January 2019 17:36:09 UTC+11, David Nebauer wrote:
>
> Mark S., I have to confess something embarrassing. After trawling through 
> scads of TW documentation and related internet posts, I have seen hundreds 
> of references to opening tiddlers with notation like 
> "$:/config/EditTemplateFields/Visibility/text", but I have no idea how to 
> do it. Can you give me a pointer?
>
> David.
>
> On Thursday, 3 January 2019 15:30:26 UTC+9:30, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> I suspect that it is the iframe that is used to contain the text field 
>> that is blocking the action.
>>
>> You can try an experiment. Open tiddler 
>>
>> $:/config/EditTemplateFields/Visibility/text
>>
>> and change the text to "show". Now the text field will appear down with 
>> the other fields (only a bigger box). From that text field box try 
>> launching your external editor. 
>>
>> Good luck!
>> -- Mark
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 8:46:35 PM UTC-8, David Nebauer wrote:
>>>
>>> The web browser I'm using with TW, qutebrowser 
>>>  has a mechanism for 
>>> opening an external editor when filling in forms fields. When creating a 
>>> new tiddler this mechanism works with every editable field *except* for 
>>> the content field, which is obviously the field for which an external 
>>> editor would be most useful:
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: new-tiddler] 
>>> 
>>>
>>> In order to troubleshoot this at the browser end I need to understand 
>>> what is different about the content field in comparison with the other 
>>> fields.
>>>
>>>
>>> If it helps, the mode of failure is that the external editor (gvim) 
>>> launches, I enter the content in the editor, and close the editor -- at 
>>> this point for all other fields the editor content appears in the browser 
>>> form field, but in the case of the content field it remains empty.
>>>
>>> I tried to view the page source but, of course, that showed me the 
>>> entire wiki. I don't have sufficient knowledge of TW to wade through that.
>>>
>>>
>>> [I've reported this as a TW github issue 
>>> , but it since 
>>> occurred to me it might be better discussed here.]
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: External editor works with all new tiddler field except for content field

Mark S., I have to confess something embarrassing. After trawling through 
scads of TW documentation and related internet posts, I have seen hundreds 
of references to opening tiddlers with notation like 
"$:/config/EditTemplateFields/Visibility/text", but I have no idea how to 
do it. Can you give me a pointer?

David.

On Thursday, 3 January 2019 15:30:26 UTC+9:30, Mark S. wrote:
>
> I suspect that it is the iframe that is used to contain the text field 
> that is blocking the action.
>
> You can try an experiment. Open tiddler 
>
> $:/config/EditTemplateFields/Visibility/text
>
> and change the text to "show". Now the text field will appear down with 
> the other fields (only a bigger box). From that text field box try 
> launching your external editor. 
>
> Good luck!
> -- Mark
>
> On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 8:46:35 PM UTC-8, David Nebauer wrote:
>>
>> The web browser I'm using with TW, qutebrowser 
>>  has a mechanism for opening 
>> an external editor when filling in forms fields. When creating a new 
>> tiddler this mechanism works with every editable field *except* for the 
>> content field, which is obviously the field for which an external editor 
>> would be most useful:
>>
>>
>> [image: new-tiddler] 
>> 
>>
>> In order to troubleshoot this at the browser end I need to understand 
>> what is different about the content field in comparison with the other 
>> fields.
>>
>>
>> If it helps, the mode of failure is that the external editor (gvim) 
>> launches, I enter the content in the editor, and close the editor -- at 
>> this point for all other fields the editor content appears in the browser 
>> form field, but in the case of the content field it remains empty.
>>
>> I tried to view the page source but, of course, that showed me the entire 
>> wiki. I don't have sufficient knowledge of TW to wade through that.
>>
>>
>> [I've reported this as a TW github issue 
>> , but it since 
>> occurred to me it might be better discussed here.]
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: External editor works with all new tiddler field except for content field

Astounding, you are "two for two". Disabling the CodeMirror plugins 
resulted in me being able to sucessfully use an external editor with the 
new tiddler content field. Then, once I re-enabled the CodeMirror plugins I 
was again unable to use gvim with the content field. However, typing input 
into the "type" field did result in a different content field which I 
*could* use the external editor with.

Does this point to the cause, and to a workaround which lets me use an 
external editor with the content field, and use the CodeMirror plugin?

On Thursday, 3 January 2019 15:19:05 UTC+9:30, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> Hi David, when you don't use CodeMirror does it behave better?
>
> Try by writing a letter into the "type" field , like "a". That spawns the 
> standard editor and you can try again
>

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[tw5] Re: External editor works with all new tiddler field except for content field

2019-01-02 Thread Ton Gerner

Hi David,

As of v5.1.12 TiddlyWiki contains an editor toolbar which uses an iFrame 
for the editor (editor bookmarklets ceased to work as well since then).

According to @Jermolene: "The iframe was added around the textarea when we 
added the toolbar buttons because otherwise clicking on a button will 
remove any active selection from the textarea as a side effect of removing 
focus".

So, if you switch off the editor toolbar (Controlpanel > Settings > Editor 
toolbar) you can use an external editor (and bookmarklets) for the text 
field.

Note: I added a toggle switch for editor toolbar (and preview) below the 
tags field: $:/_toggle-editor-toolbar_preview, available at 
http://tongerner.tiddlyspot.com/ (see tab 'Code tiddlers').

Cheers,

Ton



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[tw5] Re: External editor works with all new tiddler field except for content field

I suspect that it is the iframe that is used to contain the text field that 
is blocking the action.

You can try an experiment. Open tiddler 

$:/config/EditTemplateFields/Visibility/text

and change the text to "show". Now the text field will appear down with the 
other fields (only a bigger box). From that text field box try launching 
your external editor. 

Good luck!
-- Mark

On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 8:46:35 PM UTC-8, David Nebauer wrote:
>
> The web browser I'm using with TW, qutebrowser 
>  has a mechanism for opening 
> an external editor when filling in forms fields. When creating a new 
> tiddler this mechanism works with every editable field *except* for the 
> content field, which is obviously the field for which an external editor 
> would be most useful:
>
>
> [image: new-tiddler] 
> 
>
> In order to troubleshoot this at the browser end I need to understand what 
> is different about the content field in comparison with the other fields.
>
>
> If it helps, the mode of failure is that the external editor (gvim) 
> launches, I enter the content in the editor, and close the editor -- at 
> this point for all other fields the editor content appears in the browser 
> form field, but in the case of the content field it remains empty.
>
> I tried to view the page source but, of course, that showed me the entire 
> wiki. I don't have sufficient knowledge of TW to wade through that.
>
>
> [I've reported this as a TW github issue 
> , but it since 
> occurred to me it might be better discussed here.]
>

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[tw5] Re: A comment about the DozenDukeWrap plugin

2019-01-02 Thread BurningTreeC

Happy New Year David!

Please tell us about the dozen duke wrap

I have no clue that plugin even exists - in your toolmap under which 
category can I find it?


all the best and a happy 2019, Simon

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[tw5] Re: External editor works with all new tiddler field except for content field

2019-01-02 Thread BurningTreeC

Hi David, when you don't use CodeMirror does it behave better?

Try by writing a letter into the "type" field , like "a". That spawns the 
standard editor and you can try again

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[tw5] Re: How can I get <> to be evaluated now?

Joe,

Here is my complete log solution. Attached, download and drag to your wiki,.

The viewTemplate tiddler determines when to display it, currently on non 
system tiddlers, and the $:/PSaT/macros/ShowLogMacro tiddler details the 
macros that come with it for use in different ways.

Eg list items logged here on this tiddler, or all tiddlers, recent only 
etc... or log line or text area.
.
It uses some tricks to combine the date time stamp, and current tiddler 
into a line in a data tiddler, the log is wikified so can include links 
etc... The list log functions reverse it to be most recent first.

Regards
Tony


On Thursday, 3 January 2019 04:28:34 UTC+11, Joe Armstrong wrote:
>
> I have made a tiddler called [[Log1]] this is
> supposed to be a log file.
>
>
> I have a second tiddler [[AddToLog]] which is supposed to add a 
> time-stamped entry to the end of the log.
>
> It has a little text box to enter text with and a button
>
> AddToLog is like this:
>
>
> \define appendButton(old,add) 
><$button set="Log1" setTo="$old$  At <>  $add$"> add 
> to log 
> \end 
>
>  <$edit-text tiddler="$:/temp/Append"/> 
>  <$macrocall $name="appendButton" old={{Log1}} add={{$:/temp/Append}}/>
>
> If I run the code in this tiddler ut some text in the edit button and click
> on 'add to log' the log gets appended with this:
>
> 
>At <>  .. the text I entered ...
>
>  Which is wrong since I want <> to be now (ie something like 
> 2019-01-02 ...) and NOT <>
>
> I have tried many ways to program my way around this but they all fail.
>
> So how can I get the value of <> now?
>
> I need to turn off the lazy evaluation.
>
> Cheers 
>
> /Joe
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: How can I get <> to be evaluated now?

Ah, Thank you Mark. That is the solution. A dictionary tiddler.

This way, no need to read the whole log into a variable and write back.
That way I can filter a period of time in my display tiddler.

You are great Mark. 

Cheers
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[tw5] External editor works with all new tiddler field except for content field

The web browser I'm using with TW, qutebrowser
has a mechanism for opening an
external editor when filling in forms fields. When creating a new tiddler
this mechanism works with every editable field *except* for the content
field, which is obviously the field for which an external editor would be
most useful:

[image: new-tiddler]

In order to troubleshoot this at the browser end I need to understand what
is different about the content field in comparison with the other fields.

If it helps, the mode of failure is that the external editor (gvim)
launches, I enter the content in the editor, and close the editor -- at
this point for all other fields the editor content appears in the browser
form field, but in the case of the content field it remains empty.

I tried to view the page source but, of course, that showed me the entire
wiki. I don't have sufficient knowledge of TW to wade through that.

[I've reported this as a TW github issue
, but it since
occurred to me it might be better discussed here.]

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[tw5] Re: How can I get <> to be evaluated now?

Hi Mohammad,

A completely different approach would be to store the log entries in a data 
dictionary. Then use a display tiddler to present the entries. I have a 
daily reading log that works this way (I didn't write the routine -- think 
it was PMario) that now has records going back to 2014, so more than a 
thousand entries.

-- Mark

On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 8:01:05 PM UTC-8, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Hi Mark,
>  Just for curiosity: If I understand on each button click, TW reads the 
> whole Log1 contents, stores it in an variable, appends new texts to it, and 
> writes it back to the same tiddler.
> Is there any way to not read and store Log1 content and just append texts 
> to the end of tiddler? Is there any performance issue with the current 
> solution?
>
> --Mohammad
>

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[tw5] Re: How to use TW for college math notes? (beginner)

Now attached 

On Thursday, 3 January 2019 15:14:15 UTC+11, TonyM wrote:
>
> Evžen,
>
> Please find attached a tiddler I extracted from a bigger solution I have 
> built but not published. Download this file and drag to a test wiki, It 
> will add some icons to the view template to allow you to toggle view edit 
> and Fold/unfold.
>
> If you edit tiddlers this way (From the view Template), every key stroke 
> is saved on the current tiddler, but the autosave of the whole wiki will 
> not occur. This can help for "in class" note taking. 
> The editor used and the editor Toolbar buttons vary according to Tiddler 
> Type. But folding the tiddler you can avoid displaying the content while 
> you type for a more rapid entry.
>
> You could wrap the code in this tiddler in a list or reveal to only 
> display in particular cases. eg tiddlers [!is[system}] or has a particular 
> tag eg note.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
>
> On Thursday, 3 January 2019 02:42:49 UTC+11, Evžen Wybitul wrote:
>>
>> Hey,
>>
>> I'm revising my note-taking system for the next semester. Initially I 
>> planned to use simple Markdown files, maybe with some tags added, but I can 
>> see that TW could be better for my use case — I'm a math major and I could 
>> use some modular definition/theorem Tiddlers that could be interlinked and 
>> tagged, rather than searching for them in individual markdown files. I have 
>> a question, though:
>>
>> *How should I start?*
>>
>> There's so many different plugins, saving schemes, different servers, 
>> themes... Is there any TW that would skip all the hassle and come with (the 
>> most important) batteries included? And which are those "batteries" anyway? 
>> I don't want to miss out on something great just because I don't know I 
>> need it. The question could be phrased differently:
>>
>> *How would you take college/class/meeting notes with TW? Which plugins, 
>> which workflow? And how would you review the notes later?*
>>
>> I'm sorry, I didn't manage to find the info I'm looking for here in this 
>> group, nor on the internet. Thank you for your help.
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: How to use TW for college math notes? (beginner)

Evžen,

Please find attached a tiddler I extracted from a bigger solution I have 
built but not published. Download this file and drag to a test wiki, It 
will add some icons to the view template to allow you to toggle view edit 
and Fold/unfold.

If you edit tiddlers this way (From the view Template), every key stroke is 
saved on the current tiddler, but the autosave of the whole wiki will not 
occur. This can help for "in class" note taking. 
The editor used and the editor Toolbar buttons vary according to Tiddler 
Type. But folding the tiddler you can avoid displaying the content while 
you type for a more rapid entry.

You could wrap the code in this tiddler in a list or reveal to only display 
in particular cases. eg tiddlers [!is[system}] or has a particular tag eg 
note.

Regards
Tony

On Thursday, 3 January 2019 02:42:49 UTC+11, Evžen Wybitul wrote:
>
> Hey,
>
> I'm revising my note-taking system for the next semester. Initially I 
> planned to use simple Markdown files, maybe with some tags added, but I can 
> see that TW could be better for my use case — I'm a math major and I could 
> use some modular definition/theorem Tiddlers that could be interlinked and 
> tagged, rather than searching for them in individual markdown files. I have 
> a question, though:
>
> *How should I start?*
>
> There's so many different plugins, saving schemes, different servers, 
> themes... Is there any TW that would skip all the hassle and come with (the 
> most important) batteries included? And which are those "batteries" anyway? 
> I don't want to miss out on something great just because I don't know I 
> need it. The question could be phrased differently:
>
> *How would you take college/class/meeting notes with TW? Which plugins, 
> which workflow? And how would you review the notes later?*
>
> I'm sorry, I didn't manage to find the info I'm looking for here in this 
> group, nor on the internet. Thank you for your help.
>

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[tw5] Re: How can I get <> to be evaluated now?

Hi Mark,
 Just for curiosity: If I understand on each button click, TW reads the 
whole Log1 contents, stores it in an variable, appends new texts to it, and 
writes it back to the same tiddler.
Is there any way to not read and store Log1 content and just append texts 
to the end of tiddler? Is there any performance issue with the current 
solution?

--Mohammad

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[tw5] Re: Some help with Tekan Kanban

Riz,

Forgive me going off on a wouldn't it be great journey on Tekan,

In exploring the plugin for application on top of my own primary wiki, I 
have being exploring in more detail the great tekan plugin. DO you have a 
gitHub presence for this plugin that I could raise issues that may be 
included in a future version?

The reason I ask is as I uncover the details of how it works, to run it on 
top of my current personal GTD system, I can see some easy ways to add some 
of your road map items and also generalise it further, which would give me 
and others better options to integrate it with existing solutions. I can 
see you are a structured coder and already make it quite hackable with 
buttons etc... I have some key areas I think you could improve that would 
allow the addition of custom or "powerups" not unlike other kanban 
solutions. 

I offer this not only to promote somethings I would like to see, but also 
to lend a hand to your development effort. But no time pressure, or demands 
on my part, only if I can add value.

Regards
Tony 

On Wednesday, 2 January 2019 23:11:17 UTC+11, Riz wrote:
>
> Hello there,
>
> Author of Tekan here. 
> Tekan comes in 2 forms. As a plugin, and a standalone form(which I named 
> Tekkan, with an extra k). The plugin will let you switch back to 
> Tiddlywiki, while the standalone version will not. While this may seem like 
> a shortcoming, standalone version has distinct advantages.  It is more 
> performant,  it will let you add duplicate cards and has more features than 
> plugin version. 
>
>
> Standalone version.
> https://ibnishak.github.io/Tekkan/Tekkan%20Demo.html
>
> Plugin version.
> https://ibnishak.github.io/Tesseract/projects/tekan/Tekan.html (Click on 
> the "double-circle" button on the page toolbar to switch between Tekan mode 
> and Tiddlywiki mode.
>
>
>  Now coming to your points.
>
>
> 1. Yeah, archiving lists is not a feature I thought about. It is simple to 
> implement though. 
> If you want to remove from the board lists you tagged archive, open the 
> shadow tiddler '$:/Tekan/Main' and find the following line.
>
> <$list filter="[tag!has[draft.of]]" variable="currentList">
>
> Now change it to 
>
> <$list filter="[tag!has[draft.of]!tag[Archive]]" 
> variable="currentList">
>
> 2. No. When you open the detailed modal view, try clicking on the title of 
> card. It will switch to editable. Once you are done editing, click change. 
> That is how it is intended to be used. Not the most intuitive design, I can 
> see. That is why it was changed in the standalone version. 
>
> 3. See the standalone version.
>
> 4. Implemented in standalone version. Open sidebar and select "scroll Y". 
> This has some CSS issues as of now.
>
> 5. Card tiddler names are already editable. Open the detailed view of card 
> and click on title.
>
> Now word of caution: Tekan has not seen significant development for a year 
> because of three reasons.
> 1. The community response was rather mute to the release of Tekkan One. 
> This is the major reason behind feature disparity between the two versions. 
> 2. The support for drag and drop in mobile platforms were rather buggy 
> back then. So adaptation to mobile platforms required extensive hacks. In 
> addition, tiddlyfox was on the brink of being outdated, which put the 
> future of "easy standalone single html" Tiddlywiki at risk. Much as I love 
> the node version, the charm of TW5 was the single file version. I didn't 
> want to dedicate a lot of time to a platform I was unsure of remaining part 
> of my workflow.
> 3. Each year I get a few holidays to dedicate to my side projects, and 
> this year I had to prioritise Timimi as it was a more pressing issue.
>
>
> I am seeing a little more interest in Tekan project nowadays. Once I 
> release the final version of Timimi, I will revive the Tekan project and 
> bring it up to date. There are some significant improvements in what was 
> previously the bottlenecks regarding the project. When I do, I will 
> definitely consider your points. 
>
> Sincerely,
> Riz.
>
> https://ibnishak.github.io/Timimi/
>
>

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[tw5] Re: How to use TW for college math notes? (beginner)

Evžen,

I would also add explore tiddlywiki for basic features that will help you 
while in class or studying

I use lines beginning with colon and semi-colon a lot
;Question
:answer
;Heading
:notes

Use triple back ticks for code blocks and triple double quotes for blocks 
of text that do not demand additional line breaks, good for pasting

Perhaps build your own css for shortcuts

;.q use the class q for question with a color
:.a use the class q for answers

And more...
Regards
Tony

On Thursday, 3 January 2019 02:42:49 UTC+11, Evžen Wybitul wrote:
>
> Hey,
>
> I'm revising my note-taking system for the next semester. Initially I 
> planned to use simple Markdown files, maybe with some tags added, but I can 
> see that TW could be better for my use case — I'm a math major and I could 
> use some modular definition/theorem Tiddlers that could be interlinked and 
> tagged, rather than searching for them in individual markdown files. I have 
> a question, though:
>
> *How should I start?*
>
> There's so many different plugins, saving schemes, different servers, 
> themes... Is there any TW that would skip all the hassle and come with (the 
> most important) batteries included? And which are those "batteries" anyway? 
> I don't want to miss out on something great just because I don't know I 
> need it. The question could be phrased differently:
>
> *How would you take college/class/meeting notes with TW? Which plugins, 
> which workflow? And how would you review the notes later?*
>
> I'm sorry, I didn't manage to find the info I'm looking for here in this 
> group, nor on the internet. Thank you for your help.
>

 

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[tw5] Re: How to use wikitext inside of list widget template?

I hand typed the example (not cut and paste) -- the quote mark was not 
missing in the original.

It's the 2nd form that works {{||template}}. Using {{template}} would just 
insert the contents of the template.

It would be a lot cleaner if template="MyTemplate" were to work.

Thanks!
-- Mark

On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 5:41:35 PM UTC-8, TonyM wrote:
>
> Mark,
>
> I think I have seen this before. 
>
> Quick check 
> <$list filter=... template="MyTemplate"/>
> Was missing a "
>
> I have not used this form of template much before, but is it working like? 
> {{MyTemplate}}
> vs
> {{||MyTemplate}}
>
> Where one is a transclusion, the other is a transclusion using current 
> tiddler values?
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
> On Thursday, 3 January 2019 12:16:31 UTC+11, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> If I have this text in a tiddler like MyTemplate:
>>
>> ; <$view field="caption"/>
>> : <$view field="description"/>
>> : <$view field="url"/> 
>> : (<$link to=<>><>)
>>
>> and use it with the list widget:
>>
>> <$list filter=... template="MyTemplate/>
>>
>> The widget ignores the wikitext markup and I see literal : and ; symbols 
>> rather than terms and definitions.
>>
>> But if I make it like this:
>>
>> <$list filter=... />
>>
>> {||MyTemplate}}
>> 
>>
>> Then it uses the markup. Shouldn't it use the markup when used as a 
>> template?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> -- Mark
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: How to use wikitext inside of list widget template?

Mark,

I think I have seen this before. 

Quick check 
<$list filter=... template="MyTemplate"/>
Was missing a "

I have not used this form of template much before, but is it working like? 
{{MyTemplate}}
vs
{{||MyTemplate}}

Where one is a transclusion, the other is a transclusion using current 
tiddler values?

Regards
Tony


On Thursday, 3 January 2019 12:16:31 UTC+11, Mark S. wrote:
>
> If I have this text in a tiddler like MyTemplate:
>
> ; <$view field="caption"/>
> : <$view field="description"/>
> : <$view field="url"/> 
> : (<$link to=<>><>)
>
> and use it with the list widget:
>
> <$list filter=... template="MyTemplate/>
>
> The widget ignores the wikitext markup and I see literal : and ; symbols 
> rather than terms and definitions.
>
> But if I make it like this:
>
> <$list filter=... />
>
> {||MyTemplate}}
> 
>
> Then it uses the markup. Shouldn't it use the markup when used as a 
> template?
>
> Thanks!
> -- Mark
>

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[tw5] Re: Some help with Tekan Kanban

I am revisiting the T 
ekan
 
board plugin, and many of my former questions / desires are already 
answered, 

Regards
Tony

On Thursday, 3 January 2019 10:21:12 UTC+11, TonyM wrote:
>
> Riz,
>
> I will second that appreciation of Timimi and tekkan. I did not voice it 
> publicaly as we were corosponding privatly testing the new timimi release. 
>
> The server implementations are great, powerful and and importiant addition 
> to tiddlywiki but strengthening the single file handling continues to be 
> importiant. Your Timimi contribution is an importiant one to tiddlywikis 
> future and will have a multiplier effect.
>
> I hope to add some tools to enable tiddlywiki to be used more readily as 
> smart documents and Timimi empowers this. Thank you so much.
>
> On Tekkan, when you come to revisiting it, I still struggle with applying 
> it more generically to data in tiddlywiki. It would be more powerful if it 
> could be retrofitted to any wiki to provide not only visualisation, but its 
> queue management features. An example may be provide a root tiddler 
> (optional filter) and use its children as the columns, and their children 
> as items. 
>
> Perhaps other ways to organise what the  columns and rows are. It could 
> for example take an existing tw5 with a project field and tekkan active 
> tasks by project column, or distribute project tasks into project task 
> groups and order them for action would be great.
>
> Tekkan is by definition a rapid rearrangement tool, visualising and 
> prioritisation tool. By sitting on top of the tiddlywiki platform in a more 
> generic way it stands to be much more powerfull than the solutions it 
> compeats with, and be even more relavant to tiddlywiki. Perhaps this 
> deserves a fork since the original already offers a powerful tool.
>
> Love your work
> Tony
>
>

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[tw5] How to use wikitext inside of list widget template?

If I have this text in a tiddler like MyTemplate:

; <$view field="caption"/>
: <$view field="description"/>
: <$view field="url"/> 
: (<$link to=<>><>)

and use it with the list widget:

<$list filter=... template="MyTemplate/>

The widget ignores the wikitext markup and I see literal : and ; symbols 
rather than terms and definitions.

But if I make it like this:

<$list filter=... />

{||MyTemplate}}


Then it uses the markup. Shouldn't it use the markup when used as a 
template?

Thanks!
-- Mark

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[tw5] Re: Some help with Tekan Kanban

Riz,

FYI 
at 
https://ibnishak.github.io/Tesseract/projects/tekan/Tekan.html#Optional%20Addons
 
item 3 has the same heading as Item 2

Regards
Tony

On Wednesday, 2 January 2019 23:11:17 UTC+11, Riz wrote:
>
> Hello there,
>
> Author of Tekan here. 
> Tekan comes in 2 forms. As a plugin, and a standalone form(which I named 
> Tekkan, with an extra k). The plugin will let you switch back to 
> Tiddlywiki, while the standalone version will not. While this may seem like 
> a shortcoming, standalone version has distinct advantages.  It is more 
> performant,  it will let you add duplicate cards and has more features than 
> plugin version. 
>
>
> Standalone version.
> https://ibnishak.github.io/Tekkan/Tekkan%20Demo.html
>
> Plugin version.
> https://ibnishak.github.io/Tesseract/projects/tekan/Tekan.html (Click on 
> the "double-circle" button on the page toolbar to switch between Tekan mode 
> and Tiddlywiki mode.
>
>
>  Now coming to your points.
>
>
> 1. Yeah, archiving lists is not a feature I thought about. It is simple to 
> implement though. 
> If you want to remove from the board lists you tagged archive, open the 
> shadow tiddler '$:/Tekan/Main' and find the following line.
>
> <$list filter="[tag!has[draft.of]]" variable="currentList">
>
> Now change it to 
>
> <$list filter="[tag!has[draft.of]!tag[Archive]]" 
> variable="currentList">
>
> 2. No. When you open the detailed modal view, try clicking on the title of 
> card. It will switch to editable. Once you are done editing, click change. 
> That is how it is intended to be used. Not the most intuitive design, I can 
> see. That is why it was changed in the standalone version. 
>
> 3. See the standalone version.
>
> 4. Implemented in standalone version. Open sidebar and select "scroll Y". 
> This has some CSS issues as of now.
>
> 5. Card tiddler names are already editable. Open the detailed view of card 
> and click on title.
>
> Now word of caution: Tekan has not seen significant development for a year 
> because of three reasons.
> 1. The community response was rather mute to the release of Tekkan One. 
> This is the major reason behind feature disparity between the two versions. 
> 2. The support for drag and drop in mobile platforms were rather buggy 
> back then. So adaptation to mobile platforms required extensive hacks. In 
> addition, tiddlyfox was on the brink of being outdated, which put the 
> future of "easy standalone single html" Tiddlywiki at risk. Much as I love 
> the node version, the charm of TW5 was the single file version. I didn't 
> want to dedicate a lot of time to a platform I was unsure of remaining part 
> of my workflow.
> 3. Each year I get a few holidays to dedicate to my side projects, and 
> this year I had to prioritise Timimi as it was a more pressing issue.
>
>
> I am seeing a little more interest in Tekan project nowadays. Once I 
> release the final version of Timimi, I will revive the Tekan project and 
> bring it up to date. There are some significant improvements in what was 
> previously the bottlenecks regarding the project. When I do, I will 
> definitely consider your points. 
>
> Sincerely,
> Riz.
>
> https://ibnishak.github.io/Timimi/
>
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[tw5] Re: Scrivener and Tiddlywiki

2019-01-02 Thread AdamS

Thanks Mark and Mark. I guess I'll just keep plugging along then!

Best wishes,

Adam

On Tuesday, January 1, 2019 at 3:03:21 PM UTC, Mark Krieg wrote:
>
> I'll throw in my 2 cents...
>
> I've never encountered a typing speed issue. I'm a fast typist and I 
> primarily use a MacBookPro with Chrome browser. My primary TiddlyWiki is 
> 88.7 megs. I use TW5 with node.js, however if I save it to a single .html 
> file, although the launch is slow, I notice no lag when typing. As Mark S. 
> commented, it probably depends on your platform (hardware and software). I 
> also serve my node.js version frequently from a Raspberry Pi B+ with no lag!
>
> Mark
>
>
> On Tuesday, January 1, 2019 at 5:50:26 AM UTC-5, AdamS wrote:
>>
>> Mark and Tony, 
>>
>> Could you guys say a little more about the typing speed issue. I haven't 
>> encountered this yet, but have been hoping to use TW for long-form writing. 
>> So this issue troubles me. Are there any routes to fixing this issue? Or is 
>> it a product of something fundamental to the way TW works?
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Adam
>>
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[tw5] How to use TW for college math notes? (beginner)

A note on evolution in tiddlywiki,

I have done class notes in tiddlywiki for a non maths course, but remember that 
using a single file wiki, copy or use backups at every step then you can just 
continue to grow, evolve, customise your wiki as you go along.

When studying bigdata I added an sql syntax section, stored aws scripts, 
commands and snapshots. Much of this came after I started responding to the 
material, and in many ways provided revision and set me up to be more 
productive in class. Not to mention create flashcards from tiddlers.

Think outside any box or tiddler you come accross. Evolve your solution as 
needed.

Regards
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Re: [tw5] Re: The purpose of text editor iframes?

Adam,

Let me share an approach I use, conceptualy, not in detail.

By introducing a button to toggle a field setting on each tiddler in the view 
template, then responding to this toggle=yes you can render fields in the view 
template however you want, this includes the text field, including in edit 
mode. You need to use templates so you avoid editing the current tiddler 
directly.

I have a button that folds the tiddler, then displays from the view template an 
edit text in in view mode. Using this method you could build your own edit view 
with any number of style, button and other features without touching the 
default editor.

Regards
Tony

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[tw5] Re: How can I get <> to be evaluated now?

Joe,

I already have a log here tool, that uses a data tiddler and timestamps each 
row/ record. 

Would you like me to share it, or just the part that addresses the timestamping?

Tony

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[tw5] Re: Some help with Tekan Kanban

Riz,

I will second that appreciation of Timimi and tekkan. I did not voice it
publicaly as we were corosponding privatly testing the new timimi release.

The server implementations are great, powerful and and importiant addition to
tiddlywiki but strengthening the single file handling continues to be
importiant. Your Timimi contribution is an importiant one to tiddlywikis future
and will have a multiplier effect.

I hope to add some tools to enable tiddlywiki to be used more readily as smart
documents and Timimi empowers this. Thank you so much.

On Tekkan, when you come to revisiting it, I still struggle with applying it
more generically to data in tiddlywiki. It would be more powerful if it could
be retrofitted to any wiki to provide not only visualisation, but its queue
management features. An example may be provide a root tiddler (optional filter)
and use its children as the columns, and their children as items.

Perhaps other ways to organise what the columns and rows are. It could for
example take an existing tw5 with a project field and tekkan active tasks by
project column, or distribute project tasks into project task groups and order
them for action would be great.

Tekkan is by definition a rapid rearrangement tool, visualising and
prioritisation tool. By sitting on top of the tiddlywiki platform in a more
generic way it stands to be much more powerfull than the solutions it compeats
with, and be even more relavant to tiddlywiki. Perhaps this deserves a fork
since the original already offers a powerful tool.

Love your work
Tony

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[tw5] Re: How to use TW for college math notes? (beginner)

2019-01-02 Thread passingby

Hey,
Have a look at Timimi plugin for saving on laptop. It was just updated and 
the new update is for firefox but not for chrome. But the older release 
works fine for me on chrome. You just have to install it as a developer 
extension for now, which does not bother me much. 
And for android phone, I would suggest use noteself. Just like timimi, it 
makes saving feel smooth and automatic. You can save noteself as an app on 
the phone and even have multiple notebooks in the same file. 

In the now famous words of Eddie Bravo," Look into it" :-) 


 

On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 7:42:49 AM UTC-8, Evžen Wybitul wrote:
>
> Hey,
>
> I'm revising my note-taking system for the next semester. Initially I 
> planned to use simple Markdown files, maybe with some tags added, but I can 
> see that TW could be better for my use case — I'm a math major and I could 
> use some modular definition/theorem Tiddlers that could be interlinked and 
> tagged, rather than searching for them in individual markdown files. I have 
> a question, though:
>
> *How should I start?*
>
> There's so many different plugins, saving schemes, different servers, 
> themes... Is there any TW that would skip all the hassle and come with (the 
> most important) batteries included? And which are those "batteries" anyway? 
> I don't want to miss out on something great just because I don't know I 
> need it. The question could be phrased differently:
>
> *How would you take college/class/meeting notes with TW? Which plugins, 
> which workflow? And how would you review the notes later?*
>
> I'm sorry, I didn't manage to find the info I'm looking for here in this 
> group, nor on the internet. Thank you for your help.
>

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[tw5] Re: How can I get <> to be evaluated now?

Try again:

\define stamp() $(old)$  At $(nows)$  $(add)$
\define appendButton(old,add)
<$vars old="""$old$""" add="""$add$""" nows=<>>
   <$button set="Log1" setTo=<>> add to log

\end

-- Mark

On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 11:32:06 AM UTC-8, Joe Armstrong wrote:
>
> UUm - this didn't work for me - the  and  vanish without a trace
> <> is expanded correctly
>
> ?
>
> /Joe
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, 2 January 2019 19:32:51 UTC+1, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> Wikitext doesn't get rendered between strings. The exception is wikitext 
>> inside of a wikify widget, which gets rendered sometimes on Wednesdays.
>>
>> This worked in my test:
>>
>> \define appendButton(old,add) 
>> <$wikify name="stamp" text="$old$  At <>  $add$">
>><$button set="Log1" setTo=<>> add to log 
>> 
>> \end 
>>
>> HTH
>> -- Mark
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 10:28:34 AM UTC-7, Joe Armstrong wrote:
>>>
>>> I have made a tiddler called [[Log1]] this is
>>> supposed to be a log file.
>>>
>>>
>>> I have a second tiddler [[AddToLog]] which is supposed to add a 
>>> time-stamped entry to the end of the log.
>>>
>>> It has a little text box to enter text with and a button
>>>
>>> AddToLog is like this:
>>>
>>>
>>> \define appendButton(old,add) 
>>><$button set="Log1" setTo="$old$  At <>  $add$"> add 
>>> to log 
>>> \end 
>>>
>>>  <$edit-text tiddler="$:/temp/Append"/> 
>>>  <$macrocall $name="appendButton" old={{Log1}} 
>>> add={{$:/temp/Append}}/>
>>>
>>> If I run the code in this tiddler ut some text in the edit button and 
>>> click
>>> on 'add to log' the log gets appended with this:
>>>
>>> 
>>>At <>  .. the text I entered ...
>>>
>>>  Which is wrong since I want <> to be now (ie something like 
>>> 2019-01-02 ...) and NOT <>
>>>
>>> I have tried many ways to program my way around this but they all fail.
>>>
>>> So how can I get the value of <> now?
>>>
>>> I need to turn off the lazy evaluation.
>>>
>>> Cheers 
>>>
>>> /Joe
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: How can I get <> to be evaluated now?

2019-01-02 Thread Joe Armstrong

UUm - this didn't work for me - the  and  vanish without a trace
<> is expanded correctly

?

/Joe



On Wednesday, 2 January 2019 19:32:51 UTC+1, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Wikitext doesn't get rendered between strings. The exception is wikitext 
> inside of a wikify widget, which gets rendered sometimes on Wednesdays.
>
> This worked in my test:
>
> \define appendButton(old,add) 
> <$wikify name="stamp" text="$old$  At <>  $add$">
><$button set="Log1" setTo=<>> add to log 
> 
> \end 
>
> HTH
> -- Mark
>
>
> On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 10:28:34 AM UTC-7, Joe Armstrong wrote:
>>
>> I have made a tiddler called [[Log1]] this is
>> supposed to be a log file.
>>
>>
>> I have a second tiddler [[AddToLog]] which is supposed to add a 
>> time-stamped entry to the end of the log.
>>
>> It has a little text box to enter text with and a button
>>
>> AddToLog is like this:
>>
>>
>> \define appendButton(old,add) 
>><$button set="Log1" setTo="$old$  At <>  $add$"> add 
>> to log 
>> \end 
>>
>>  <$edit-text tiddler="$:/temp/Append"/> 
>>  <$macrocall $name="appendButton" old={{Log1}} 
>> add={{$:/temp/Append}}/>
>>
>> If I run the code in this tiddler ut some text in the edit button and 
>> click
>> on 'add to log' the log gets appended with this:
>>
>> 
>>At <>  .. the text I entered ...
>>
>>  Which is wrong since I want <> to be now (ie something like 
>> 2019-01-02 ...) and NOT <>
>>
>> I have tried many ways to program my way around this but they all fail.
>>
>> So how can I get the value of <> now?
>>
>> I need to turn off the lazy evaluation.
>>
>> Cheers 
>>
>> /Joe
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [tw5] Re: The purpose of text editor iframes?

2019-01-02 Thread AdamS

Hi Mark and Jeremy,

That's good to know. So the loss of that functionality is kind of a 
problem. 

What I've been trying to do is make tiddlers such that the size of the 
tiddler can be fixed (or manually resized) and the textarea will fill the 
remaining space with overflow-y set to auto. That is to say, the iframe 
fills the remaining space (using flex). The issue I've been running into 
with this is that if the textarea is in an iframe, whenever I click into 
the textarea or keypress in it, the textarea scrolls to the top. This seems 
to be some kind of bug with iframes. I've dodged this issue just by using a 
textarea instead, but I haven't been sure what I'm losing in giving up the 
iframe.

Any ideas how to sidestep this issue while still using an iframe?

Best wishes,

Adam

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> Hi Adam
>
> The iframe was added around the textarea when we added the toolbar buttons 
> because otherwise clicking on a button will remove any active selection 
> from the textarea as a side effect of removing focus.
>
> There are some other ways to work around the same problem, notably using a 
> contenteditable DIV instead of a textarea, but the other approaches sadly 
> have their own problems too.
>
> In terms of styling, the framed editor renders an invisible textarea with 
> the class specified in the "class" attribute and one by one copies the 
> active styles from that template. Thus, one can usually target that 
> invisible textarea with a CSS declaration referencing 
> "textarea.tc-edit-texteditor".
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
> I *think* that it has to something to do with the edit buttons. I believe 
> the iframe came in at the same time as the edit buttons. I could be very 
> wrong, of course ;-)
>
> On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 10:23:56 AM UTC-7, AdamS wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm just wondering why the tiddler text editor uses as iframe instead of 
>> a textarea by default. The iframe make styling the embedded textarea 
>> somewhat tricky. Interested to know what advantages the iframe confers that 
>> I will miss out on by changing the edit tiddler template.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Adam
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[tw5] Re: How can I get <> to be evaluated now?

Hi Joe,

Ton Gerner has a very nice Time Stamp plugin, take a look

http://tongerner.tiddlyspot.com/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Ftongerner%2Ftimestamp-button



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Re: [tw5] Re: The purpose of text editor iframes?

2019-01-02 Thread Jeremy Ruston

Hi Adam

The iframe was added around the textarea when we added the toolbar buttons 
because otherwise clicking on a button will remove any active selection from 
the textarea as a side effect of removing focus.

There are some other ways to work around the same problem, notably using a 
contenteditable DIV instead of a textarea, but the other approaches sadly have 
their own problems too.

In terms of styling, the framed editor renders an invisible textarea with the 
class specified in the "class" attribute and one by one copies the active 
styles from that template. Thus, one can usually target that invisible textarea 
with a CSS declaration referencing "textarea.tc-edit-texteditor".

Best wishes

Jeremy

> I *think* that it has to something to do with the edit buttons. I believe the 
> iframe came in at the same time as the edit buttons. I could be very wrong, 
> of course ;-)
> 
>> On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 10:23:56 AM UTC-7, AdamS wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I'm just wondering why the tiddler text editor uses as iframe instead of a 
>> textarea by default. The iframe make styling the embedded textarea somewhat 
>> tricky. Interested to know what advantages the iframe confers that I will 
>> miss out on by changing the edit tiddler template.
>> 
>> Best wishes,
>> 
>> Adam
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[tw5] Re: How to use TW for college math notes? (beginner)

Further input

Take look at David Gifford wonderful TW resources at

https://dynalist.io/d/zUP-nIWu2FFoXH-oM7L7d9DM#q=math


Cheers
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[tw5] Re: How to use TW for college math notes? (beginner)

Hi Evzen,

I am sure you will get more comments here. But I think if you teach Math 
you need the KaTeX plugin.
So, for start and as minimum you need to have download Empty.html from 
tiddlywiki.com and then add
the KaTeX plugin from control panel / plugins / Get more plugins

I may also recommend shiraz plugin (https://kookma.github.io/Shiraz/) if 
you need to add colorful elements in your notes
like alerts, footnotes, ... or want to create sequential tiddlers (a story 
a slideshow)


Cheers
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[tw5] Re: The purpose of text editor iframes?


I *think* that it has to something to do with the edit buttons. I believe 
the iframe came in at the same time as the edit buttons. I could be very 
wrong, of course ;-)

On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 10:23:56 AM UTC-7, AdamS wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I'm just wondering why the tiddler text editor uses as iframe instead of a 
> textarea by default. The iframe make styling the embedded textarea somewhat 
> tricky. Interested to know what advantages the iframe confers that I will 
> miss out on by changing the edit tiddler template.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Adam
>

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[tw5] Re: How can I get <> to be evaluated now?

Wikitext doesn't get rendered between strings. The exception is wikitext 
inside of a wikify widget, which gets rendered sometimes on Wednesdays.

This worked in my test:

\define appendButton(old,add) 
<$wikify name="stamp" text="$old$  At <>  $add$">
   <$button set="Log1" setTo=<>> add to log 

\end 

HTH
-- Mark


On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 10:28:34 AM UTC-7, Joe Armstrong wrote:
>
> I have made a tiddler called [[Log1]] this is
> supposed to be a log file.
>
>
> I have a second tiddler [[AddToLog]] which is supposed to add a 
> time-stamped entry to the end of the log.
>
> It has a little text box to enter text with and a button
>
> AddToLog is like this:
>
>
> \define appendButton(old,add) 
><$button set="Log1" setTo="$old$  At <>  $add$"> add 
> to log 
> \end 
>
>  <$edit-text tiddler="$:/temp/Append"/> 
>  <$macrocall $name="appendButton" old={{Log1}} add={{$:/temp/Append}}/>
>
> If I run the code in this tiddler ut some text in the edit button and click
> on 'add to log' the log gets appended with this:
>
> 
>At <>  .. the text I entered ...
>
>  Which is wrong since I want <> to be now (ie something like 
> 2019-01-02 ...) and NOT <>
>
> I have tried many ways to program my way around this but they all fail.
>
> So how can I get the value of <> now?
>
> I need to turn off the lazy evaluation.
>
> Cheers 
>
> /Joe
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Some help with Tekan Kanban

2019-01-02 Thread passingby

Good morning Riz,
First of all, THANK YOU, for your plugins, both Tekan and Timimi. I have 
Timimi installed in my chrome browser and it makes the saving process so 
natural. I personally never could bring myself around installing a server 
for serving up a saveable TW. The attraction of TW being Standalone is a 
main thing. That is why I loved Noteself. It makes local saving on Android 
(I use android) so painless and natural.

Personally I feel noteself and Timimi are the best.

 And this plugin, Tekan. Its very useful..I shall try out your pointers and 
explanations, which I think shall solve the issues.

Thank you for your responses.



On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 4:11:17 AM UTC-8, Riz wrote:
>
> Hello there,
>
> Author of Tekan here. 
> Tekan comes in 2 forms. As a plugin, and a standalone form(which I named 
> Tekkan, with an extra k). The plugin will let you switch back to 
> Tiddlywiki, while the standalone version will not. While this may seem like 
> a shortcoming, standalone version has distinct advantages.  It is more 
> performant,  it will let you add duplicate cards and has more features than 
> plugin version. 
>
>
> Standalone version.
> https://ibnishak.github.io/Tekkan/Tekkan%20Demo.html
>
> Plugin version.
> https://ibnishak.github.io/Tesseract/projects/tekan/Tekan.html (Click on 
> the "double-circle" button on the page toolbar to switch between Tekan mode 
> and Tiddlywiki mode.
>
>
>  Now coming to your points.
>
>
> 1. Yeah, archiving lists is not a feature I thought about. It is simple to 
> implement though. 
> If you want to remove from the board lists you tagged archive, open the 
> shadow tiddler '$:/Tekan/Main' and find the following line.
>
> <$list filter="[tag!has[draft.of]]" variable="currentList">
>
> Now change it to 
>
> <$list filter="[tag!has[draft.of]!tag[Archive]]" 
> variable="currentList">
>
> 2. No. When you open the detailed modal view, try clicking on the title of 
> card. It will switch to editable. Once you are done editing, click change. 
> That is how it is intended to be used. Not the most intuitive design, I can 
> see. That is why it was changed in the standalone version. 
>
> 3. See the standalone version.
>
> 4. Implemented in standalone version. Open sidebar and select "scroll Y". 
> This has some CSS issues as of now.
>
> 5. Card tiddler names are already editable. Open the detailed view of card 
> and click on title.
>
> Now word of caution: Tekan has not seen significant development for a year 
> because of three reasons.
> 1. The community response was rather mute to the release of Tekkan One. 
> This is the major reason behind feature disparity between the two versions. 
> 2. The support for drag and drop in mobile platforms were rather buggy 
> back then. So adaptation to mobile platforms required extensive hacks. In 
> addition, tiddlyfox was on the brink of being outdated, which put the 
> future of "easy standalone single html" Tiddlywiki at risk. Much as I love 
> the node version, the charm of TW5 was the single file version. I didn't 
> want to dedicate a lot of time to a platform I was unsure of remaining part 
> of my workflow.
> 3. Each year I get a few holidays to dedicate to my side projects, and 
> this year I had to prioritise Timimi as it was a more pressing issue.
>
>
> I am seeing a little more interest in Tekan project nowadays. Once I 
> release the final version of Timimi, I will revive the Tekan project and 
> bring it up to date. There are some significant improvements in what was 
> previously the bottlenecks regarding the project. When I do, I will 
> definitely consider your points. 
>
> Sincerely,
> Riz.
>
> https://ibnishak.github.io/Timimi/
>
>

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[tw5] A comment about the DozenDukeWrap plugin

2019-01-02 Thread David Gifford

...this plugin dozen duke wrap...

Happy New Year!

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[tw5] How can I get <> to be evaluated now?

2019-01-02 Thread Joe Armstrong

I have made a tiddler called [[Log1]] this is
supposed to be a log file.


I have a second tiddler [[AddToLog]] which is supposed to add a 
time-stamped entry to the end of the log.

It has a little text box to enter text with and a button

AddToLog is like this:


\define appendButton(old,add) 
   <$button set="Log1" setTo="$old$  At <>  $add$"> add to 
log 
\end 

 <$edit-text tiddler="$:/temp/Append"/> 
 <$macrocall $name="appendButton" old={{Log1}} add={{$:/temp/Append}}/>

If I run the code in this tiddler ut some text in the edit button and click
on 'add to log' the log gets appended with this:


   At <>  .. the text I entered ...

 Which is wrong since I want <> to be now (ie something like 
2019-01-02 ...) and NOT <>

I have tried many ways to program my way around this but they all fail.

So how can I get the value of <> now?

I need to turn off the lazy evaluation.

Cheers 

/Joe


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[tw5] The purpose of text editor iframes?

2019-01-02 Thread AdamS

Hi all,

I'm just wondering why the tiddler text editor uses as iframe instead of a 
textarea by default. The iframe make styling the embedded textarea somewhat 
tricky. Interested to know what advantages the iframe confers that I will 
miss out on by changing the edit tiddler template.

Best wishes,

Adam

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[tw5] Re: How to always show preview pane?

2019-01-02 Thread Ton Gerner

Hi talha131,

When you have preview enabled, the tiddler 
$:/config/TextEditor/EnableToolbar contains yes.
After saving the preview stays enabled.

If you want to toggle editor toolbar and/of preview on/off easily, you can 
use $:/_toggle-editor-toolbar_preview available at 
http://tongerner.tiddlyspot.com/ (look under the tab code 'tiddlers').

Cheers,

Ton

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[tw5] Re: Where is the KeeBoord plugin?

2019-01-02 Thread Diego Mesa

Here is a gif showing the behavior:

https://media.giphy.com/media/f74ubKES9IXKFA0uvg/giphy.gif

After typing the search term, I am only pressing the down arrow key .

On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 10:59:15 AM UTC-6, Diego Mesa wrote:
>
> Thanks BTC! In briefly playing around with this something interesting 
> happens. If you make tiddlers:
>
>
>- tiddler 1
>- tiddler 2
>- tiddler 3
>
> And then search "tiddler" you see all three popup. If you then press the 
> down arrow, it selects "tiddler 1" and the results dropdown only shows 
> tiddler 1, as opposed to all three with tiddler 1 selected - this is 
> because pressing down arrow causes the text of in the search box to change. 
> Now the interesting part is that even after this happens, if I press down 
> again, tiddler 2 shows up! And again, tiddler 3.
>
> Diego
>
> On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 4:04:54 AM UTC-6, BurningTreeC wrote:
>>
>> Here a single wiki with both working together
>>
>> The filters configured for the up/down selections are not changed to be 
>> the same that Thomas uses
>>
>> Also, if changing a search-results tab, the simple-search shows its 
>> search results but cycles through the results of my open tab
>>
>> These are small things that need to be touched so that it works correctly
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Where is the KeeBoord plugin?

2019-01-02 Thread Diego Mesa

Thanks BTC! In briefly playing around with this something interestign 
happens. If you make tiddlers:

   - tiddler 1
   - tiddler 2
   - tiddler 3

And then search "tiddler" you see all three popup. If you then press the 
down arrow, it selects "tiddler 1" and the results dropdown only shows 
tiddler 1, as opposed to all three with tiddler 1 selected - this is 
because pressing down arrow causes the text of in the search box to change. 
Now the interesting part is that even after this happens, if I press down 
again, tiddler 2 shows up! And again, tiddler 3.

Diego

On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 4:04:54 AM UTC-6, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> Here a single wiki with both working together
>
> The filters configured for the up/down selections are not changed to be 
> the same that Thomas uses
>
> Also, if changing a search-results tab, the simple-search shows its search 
> results but cycles through the results of my open tab
>
> These are small things that need to be touched so that it works correctly
>

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[tw5] How to use TW for college math notes? (beginner)

2019-01-02 Thread Evžen Wybitul

Hey,

I'm revising my note-taking system for the next semester. Initially I
planned to use simple Markdown files, maybe with some tags added, but I can
see that TW could be better for my use case — I'm a math major and I could
use some modular definition/theorem Tiddlers that could be interlinked and
tagged, rather than searching for them in individual markdown files. I have
a question, though:

*How should I start?*

There's so many different plugins, saving schemes, different servers,
themes... Is there any TW that would skip all the hassle and come with (the
most important) batteries included? And which are those "batteries" anyway?
I don't want to miss out on something great just because I don't know I
need it. The question could be phrased differently:

*How would you take college/class/meeting notes with TW? Which plugins,
which workflow? And how would you review the notes later?*

I'm sorry, I didn't manage to find the info I'm looking for here in this
group, nor on the internet. Thank you for your help.

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[tw5] Re: Sticky Element

Thank you Mark,
 Yes, that way I can have tiddler in view as long as side bar is visible.

Cheers
Mohammad

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[tw5] Re: Sticky Element

If your intention is functional, rather than for presentation, you could 
also stick a tiddler or noted contents into the sidebar. You could then 
change the settings of the sidebar so that it is wider.

-- Mark

On Tuesday, January 1, 2019 at 10:54:24 PM UTC-8, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Sometimes you make a very long tiddler out of several other tiddlers. 
> There is situation you want to keep part of the text in view when you 
> scroll down, how to do this?
>
> I found this in https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/position
>
> position: -webkit-sticky;
> position: sticky;
> top: 20px;
>
>
> What do you think? Is there any better solution?
>
> --Mohammad
>

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[tw5] Re: Simple Android App for TiddlyWiki

2019-01-02 Thread Watt

I can confirm leaflet works very well for maps. I have it working on mobile in
a browser, but the same wiki doesn't acquire geolocation points within the TW
app. I don't think the app is requesting location permissions, and I can't find
anywhere to grant it on my Android. Previously created geoloc points create
maps in TWapp though.

Jan has done a lot of work on maps and leaflet, see here if you're interested;
https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!searchin/TiddlyWiki/Geoloc/tiddlywiki/GG6IugxnFxU

There is further help here;
https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!searchin/TiddlyWiki/Geoloc/tiddlywiki/b2ekqFfjvz0

If you search the forum for 'Geoloc' those are the top two results, at the
moment.

I had a lot of trouble getting it working, and be warned that the plugin, as
is, can create an unrecoverable red Java error popup which killed several test
wikis. Try it out on an empty wiki would be my humble advice.

Once working it is amazing to be able to geolocate on mobile within TW5. Thanks
you leaflet plugin author Sylvain!

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[tw5] Re: Simple Android App for TiddlyWiki