date:20190213

Yep,
 That is really handy! Specially when you write codes

Thanks Tnoy for the hint!

Cheers
Mohammad

On Thursday, February 14, 2019 at 9:39:51 AM UTC+3:30, tony wrote:
>
> The command mode from the CodeMirror plugin with CodeMirror Keymap: vim 
>
> works quite lovely with
>
> :%s/foo/bar/gc
>
> Even more delicious is that yanks work across the tiddlers, ie yy to yank 
> a line in one tiddler, open a different tiddler and p to paste
>
> Heck, even :sort to sort all lines in the tiddlers work
>
> Good stuff!
>
> Best,
> tony
>
> On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 2:16:55 PM UTC-8, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Is there any way to search and replace in
>> Tiddlers
>>
>>- text
>>- field value
>>
>> for example search foo and replace with bar?
>>
>>
>> --Mohammad
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: search and replace in tiddlers

2019-02-13 Thread tony

The command mode from the CodeMirror plugin with CodeMirror Keymap: vim 

works quite lovely with

:%s/foo/bar/gc

Even more delicious is that yanks work across the tiddlers, ie yy to yank a 
line in one tiddler, open a different tiddler and p to paste

Heck, even :sort to sort all lines in the tiddlers work

Good stuff!

Best,
tony

On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 2:16:55 PM UTC-8, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Is there any way to search and replace in
> Tiddlers
>
>- text
>- field value
>
> for example search foo and replace with bar?
>
>
> --Mohammad
>

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[tw5] Re: search and replace in tiddlers

Tony,
 I am looking to find a way to replace a word/phrase using Tiddler 
Commander!
But seems not straightforward at all!!

So, I ignore it and will wait to see when TW  itself supports such feature.

--Mohammad

On Thursday, February 14, 2019 at 7:26:16 AM UTC+3:30, TonyM wrote:
>
> Mohammad,
>
> There is an additional plugin for search and replace in code mirror. In 
> the regular editor and text areas the browser search and replace can be 
> used, and browser plugins found that help.
>
> For large and complex tiddlers i prefer to use a browser plugin to open 
> the text area in an external editor like notepad++ which has superior 
> search and replace like including linefeed and tabs.
>
> I believe the visual editor also has a search and replace.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>

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[tw5] Re: search and replace in tiddlers

Thanks Birthe.

Thanks for your kind words! I gonna to be among the the Tiddlywiki Noble 
Prize winners :-)  (the best joke of 2019!!)

--Mohammad


On Thursday, February 14, 2019 at 8:46:36 AM UTC+3:30, Birthe C wrote:
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> Hi Mohammad,
>
> https://danielorodriguez.com/TW5-searchNreplace/  or Stephens Kimmels 
> http://skplugins.tiddlyspot.com/#FindReplace both working in the tiddler 
> editor.
>
> You are always busy, having good ideas. I enjoy it very much.
>
> Birthe
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[tw5] Re: I think we are entering the Golden Age of TiddlyWiki -- a thought

2019-02-13 Thread 'LorenzGL' via TiddlyWiki

I've been playing with Tiddlywiki for more than 10 years. I always loved it 
and wanted to use it... but it never quite worked out. Late last autumn I 
started to seriously tinker with it to create a flexible knowledge base 
that I want to use for production work. Now just the past couple of weeks 
I've been making tremendous progress helped by the many great contributions 
on this forum. Also, there has been a recent flurry of exiting new 
developments, e.g. Bob and the kin-filter, that solve problems I had for a 
long time. Thus, I fully agree with @TiddlyTweeter!

On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 10:24:03 AM UTC-8, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
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> The title says it ...
>
> I think we are entering the Golden Age of TiddlyWiki -- a thought
>
>
> J. 
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[tw5] Re: search and replace in tiddlers

2019-02-13 Thread Birthe C

Hi Mohammad,

https://danielorodriguez.com/TW5-searchNreplace/  or Stephens Kimmels 
http://skplugins.tiddlyspot.com/#FindReplace both working in the tiddler 
editor.

You are always busy, having good ideas. I enjoy it very much.

Birthe

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[tw5] Re: Tiddler Commander

Good point!

I am still worry to complicate things, but absolutely this is a TW way.
I am doing to see how it works.

Also I add a checkbox for remove field dropdown to check if the system 
field shall be included (e.g creator, modifier, tags, text,...)

--Mohammad



On Thursday, February 14, 2019 at 8:07:57 AM UTC+3:30, Mark S. wrote:
>
> I was thinking of a nested loop that would test all possible new names, 
> and list any conflicts. The user would have to decide how to proceed after 
> that. It's similar to merging in Git, where the user has to decide how to 
> fix conflicts.
>
> -- Mark
>
> On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 8:05:43 PM UTC-8, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Mark,
>>  What is your idea for confirmation alert?
>>  The TW widgets has no parameter to check this. I noted the 
>> tm-delete-tiddler has this abbility.
>>
>> One way is to write a macro to check the existence of any newly created 
>> tiddler. As you see working on tittle actually create new tiddler with 
>> requested name and delete the old .
>> one. 
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>> --Mohammad
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 7:26:19 PM UTC+3:30, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> TW really needs these kinds of tools if tiddlers are to convey "the 
>>> smallest semantic unit" successfully.
>>>
>>> Along the lines of "Danger Will Robinson!", removing suffix "2" from 
>>> "Test 2" will cause it to overwrite "Test". It probably needs some 
>>> pre-check to warn users that "the following tiddlers will be overwritten".
>>>
>>> -- Mark
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 7:22:23 AM UTC-8, @TiddlyTweeter 
>>> wrote:

 One thing. Just an early thought. Is whether parts of it might need 
 ALERTS & CONFIRMS? It's a powerful tool. It could eat your wiki if you not 
 fully clear what you doing.

 I will comment in more detail on specifics later.

 J.



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[tw5] Re: Tiddler Commander

I was thinking of a nested loop that would test all possible new names, and 
list any conflicts. The user would have to decide how to proceed after 
that. It's similar to merging in Git, where the user has to decide how to 
fix conflicts.

-- Mark

On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 8:05:43 PM UTC-8, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Mark,
>  What is your idea for confirmation alert?
>  The TW widgets has no parameter to check this. I noted the 
> tm-delete-tiddler has this abbility.
>
> One way is to write a macro to check the existence of any newly created 
> tiddler. As you see working on tittle actually create new tiddler with 
> requested name and delete the old .
> one. 
>
> What do you think?
>
> --Mohammad
>
> On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 7:26:19 PM UTC+3:30, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> TW really needs these kinds of tools if tiddlers are to convey "the 
>> smallest semantic unit" successfully.
>>
>> Along the lines of "Danger Will Robinson!", removing suffix "2" from 
>> "Test 2" will cause it to overwrite "Test". It probably needs some 
>> pre-check to warn users that "the following tiddlers will be overwritten".
>>
>> -- Mark
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 7:22:23 AM UTC-8, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>>
>>> One thing. Just an early thought. Is whether parts of it might need 
>>> ALERTS & CONFIRMS? It's a powerful tool. It could eat your wiki if you not 
>>> fully clear what you doing.
>>>
>>> I will comment in more detail on specifics later.
>>>
>>> J.
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: Tiddler Commander

Mark,
 What is your idea for confirmation alert?
 The TW widgets has no parameter to check this. I noted the 
tm-delete-tiddler has this abbility.

One way is to write a macro to check the existence of any newly created 
tiddler. As you see working on tittle actually create new tiddler with 
requested name and delete the old .
one. 

What do you think?

--Mohammad

On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 7:26:19 PM UTC+3:30, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> TW really needs these kinds of tools if tiddlers are to convey "the 
> smallest semantic unit" successfully.
>
> Along the lines of "Danger Will Robinson!", removing suffix "2" from "Test 
> 2" will cause it to overwrite "Test". It probably needs some pre-check to 
> warn users that "the following tiddlers will be overwritten".
>
> -- Mark
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 7:22:23 AM UTC-8, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> One thing. Just an early thought. Is whether parts of it might need 
>> ALERTS & CONFIRMS? It's a powerful tool. It could eat your wiki if you not 
>> fully clear what you doing.
>>
>> I will comment in more detail on specifics later.
>>
>> J.
>>
>>

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Re: [tw5]Macro interactions

2019-02-13 Thread Mal

Adam,

Sorry my response (above) was a bit off the mark.

This has taught me a couple of important lessons:

   1. I need to make sure to read and understand the documentation at 
   tiddlywiki.com - It may not be particularly user-friendly, but it is 
   accurate and concise.
   2. In Tiddlywiki there are usually many ways to achieve the same 
   outcome.  Your use of the set widget is something I have not seen before 
   and, after a bit of thought, I can see that the same could be achieved with 
   other approaches, including the list, reveal or tiddler widgets and 
   probably a few others.

All part of the fun with Tiddlywiki.

Regards,

Mal



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[tw5] Re: search and replace in tiddlers

Mohammad,

There is an additional plugin for search and replace in code mirror. In the 
regular editor and text areas the browser search and replace can be used, and 
browser plugins found that help.

For large and complex tiddlers i prefer to use a browser plugin to open the 
text area in an external editor like notepad++ which has superior search and 
replace like including linefeed and tabs.

I believe the visual editor also has a search and replace.

Regards
Tony

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[tw5] Re: Tiddler Commander

Mohammad I agree

I also suggested a tag for others to place extensions into commander.

My only concern was to put the argument it should only ever be a key plugin not 
nessasarily core, or in empty so you proceed with this in mind.

This issue is also importiant for a broader audience it seemed a good 
opportunity to raise it.

Regards
Tony

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[tw5] Re: search and replace in tiddlers

Is these any existing macro to do that?

On Thursday, February 14, 2019 at 5:05:59 AM UTC+3:30, Mark S. wrote:
>
> AFAIK, unless there's some brand-new operators, you can't actually replace 
> text *inside* of tiddler text or fields. For that you'll need some 3rd 
> party macro or widget. 
>
> -- Mark
>
> On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 2:16:55 PM UTC-8, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Is there any way to search and replace in
>> Tiddlers
>>
>>- text
>>- field value
>>
>> for example search foo and replace with bar?
>>
>>
>> --Mohammad
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: search and replace in tiddlers

Just in tiddler.
M.

On Thursday, February 14, 2019 at 2:05:02 AM UTC+3:30, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Do you mean across the whole of a TiddlyWiki?
>
> Or just within a Tiddler?
>
> J.
>
> On Wednesday, 13 February 2019 23:16:55 UTC+1, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Is there any way to search and replace in
>> Tiddlers
>>
>>- text
>>- field value
>>
>> for example search foo and replace with bar?
>>
>>
>> --Mohammad
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Tiddler Commander

Hi Tony!

I think Commander is in beta stage. It seems it is useful.  So, my aim is 
to get it working, fixing issues.
I try to keep it simple, modular and easy to understand.
By modular, I mean to be extended simply as Josiah noted above.

That is the objectives for time being.

--Mohammad


On Thursday, February 14, 2019 at 3:34:49 AM UTC+3:30, TonyM wrote:
>
> Mohammad,
>
> This question of "In the Core" is a repeating one and I believe often a 
> source of unnecessary debate. I hope I can shed a little light on it here 
> from my perspective.
>
> The key phrase I believe is "chose to remove"
>
>
>- When something is in the core is is not removable from TiddlyWiki, 
>even if it may be hidden by overwriting shadow tiddlers.
>- People often confuse empty.html as representing the core, when in 
>fact this is the minimum usable wiki, and yes, unless it is in the core it 
>is unlikely to be seen in empty.html
>- By popular demand anything can be included in empty.html but by 
>definition it should remain a minimum usable wiki.
>- I believe we should de-emphasise empty.html as a "developers minimum 
>usable wiki" and provide other editions for new users, learners, editors 
>etc... These editions would include the contents TOC and plugins that 
>customise tiddlywiki for the target audience. For example commander could 
>be in a standard.html edition or a designers.html edition.
>
> On Commander and Empty.html, I would not want Commander, ideally not even 
> tag manager and Tiddler manager in the core and thus always in empty.html 
> because what ever I build should not automatically contain components which 
> end users may use to break the designed wiki. Sure they may be included via 
> plugins in a standard.html edition, but as plugins I can "chose to remove"
>
> A new possibility I can see using designed wiki templates, (or the 
> proposed innerwiki plugin to run) is to publish a complete.html edition 
> that includes tiddlywiki.com and additional plugins like commander and 
> has a set of recipes that allows the user to export any of a set of 
> standard editions. My New User Edition is somewhat similar but adds tools 
> for the tiddlywiki student to maintain their own notes.
>
> The core is the place where if anycode is placed it becomes forever 
> committed to by the community, will always need maintenance, must be high 
> performance, must always be backwardly compatible, and is considered 
> minimum code.
>
> Only Shared Services and facilities should be in the core, and cases where 
> it is necessary for performance.
>
> Perhaps if we had deemphasised the empty.html prior to now, you would be 
> putting an argument if commander should be in empty.html or standard html 
> but in either case it should be a removable plugin and/or bundle.
>
> I do not think it should be the intention to install any optional tool in 
> the core.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
> On Thursday, February 14, 2019 at 12:53:24 AM UTC+11, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> If any feature gets into the core, then people trust it and are sure they 
>> will have long support!
>>
>> --Mohammad
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 12:47:15 AM UTC+3:30, Diego Mesa wrote:
>>>
>>> Lets not hijack this thread Josiah. Suffice it to say, I agree we should 
>>> first worry about whether it works. Then, whether it works well. I just 
>>> posed the question, as if the end goal is indeed to get into the core, it 
>>> would be logical to eventually bake this into $:/Manager's UI somehow. 
>>>
>>> Me wanting to see a plugin in the core, is the highest compliment I can 
>>> pay the plugin. 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 12, 2019 at 3:09:50 PM UTC-6, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:

 what is with "core" that  so easy comes upfront?

 i'd rather know it works well. 

 "core" additions are something else. much later. IF proven for that,

 this looks like great addition--but in process.

 likely a plugin.

 let us deal with what it is dealing with first.

 On Tuesday, 12 February 2019 19:54:44 UTC+1, Diego Mesa wrote:
>
> Hey Mohammad,o a
>
> This is great! Any thoughts on getting this into core so its part of 
> `$:/Manager`?h later.
>
> Diego
>
> On Tuesday, February 12, 2019 at 9:30:53 AM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Announcement: Tiddler Commander
>> Date: Feb 12th, 2019
>> Status: beta (idea)
>>
>> Demo: *https://kookma.github.io/TW-Commander/ 
>> *
>>
>>
>>
>> Referring to the discussion here: 
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/BxJsWuae-Uc/JapAx4mtBgAJ
>> I have prepared a small toolkit called Tiddler Commander or in short 
>> Commander. This is a proof of concept and
>> both the name and operations can be changed.
>>
>> I highly welcome any constructive idea and I hope get feedback from 
>> both users and

[tw5] Re: search and replace in tiddlers

Mark

I belive what you say to be generaly true yet recall an auto tag or auto l8nk 
plugin that scans text to find and change things.

H

Regards
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[tw5] Re: Tiddler Commander

Thanks Mark.
Looking for more contribution :-)

--Mohammad

On Thursday, February 14, 2019 at 2:04:55 AM UTC+3:30, Mark S. wrote:
>
> This will let you select fields from the existing pool -- but only if they 
> exist in tiddlers selected by the current filter. That way you are 
> inundated with thousands of irrelevant fields.
>
> (Make a backup before trying)
>
> -- Mark
>
> On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 2:07:46 PM UTC-8, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mark,
>>  Create using template was added!
>>
>> Mohammad
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 8:22:02 PM UTC+3:30, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> A thought about bulk creation. When I make tiddlers in bulk, I usually 
>>> want to specify fields as well, preferably with default values. The more 
>>> universal way to do that would be to specify a base "tiddler" instead of a 
>>> "title", whose fields (with default values) get used as the basis. Stepping 
>>> it up a notch (so you won't get bored, hah!), you could have a dropdown 
>>> list of tiddlers that are templates for bulk creation.
>>>
>>> Have fun!
>>> -- Mark
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 8:22:30 AM UTC-8, Mohammad wrote:

 A minor update!

 See the original post here:

 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/w9Bv-WulKw8/CYf9D4H6BgAJ

>>>

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[tw5] Re: Tiddler Commander

2019-02-13 Thread h0p3

You make an excellent argument. You've changed my mind. I want to modify my 
claim in light of it. 

<<<
On Commander and Empty.html, I would not want Commander, ideally not even 
tag manager and Tiddler manager in the core and thus always in empty.html 
because what ever I build should not automatically contain components which 
end users may use to break the designed wiki. Sure they may be included via 
plugins in a standard.html edition, but as plugins I can "chose to remove"
<<<

I can appreciate that. This reminds me of Linux distributions quite a bit. 
Part of the reason some distributions are more popular than others is 
because the barrier to entry is simply lower. There's a reason I hand a 
Fedora, Ubuntu, or Manjaro to someone instead of an Arch, NixOS, or Gentoo 
to most people interested in trying Linux. 

Sometimes I want a base, stripped-down, absolute bare minimal installation 
so I can develop exactly and only what I need in that system. In most 
cases, however, the average user (including me) benefits from a batteries 
loaded installation; they shouldn't have to bootstrap or build out from 
scratch. They shouldn't have to be an architect, nor should they have to 
install the python interpreter or openssh. Many kinds of tools should 
already be there for the average user.

I think your argument demonstrates the need for at least two builds sitting 
on the frontpage of https://tiddlywiki.com/:

* Bare Minimal Core
* Standard Distribution

My claim is that a tool like Commander belongs in a standard, 
one-size-attempts-to-fit-all version. Part of maximizing TW uptake is 
making it generally functional from the get go. Exactly what belongs in the 
standard distribution is something which should be debated.

<<<
A new possibility I can see using designed wiki templates, (or the proposed 
innerwiki plugin to run) is to publish a complete.html edition that 
includes tiddlywiki.com and additional plugins like commander and has a set 
of recipes that allows the user to export any of a set of standard 
editions. My New User Edition is somewhat similar but adds tools for the 
tiddlywiki student to maintain their own notes.
<<<

An architect tool would be sick. Unless they are walking through a 
tutorial, I still think the first TW a newer user downloads should be a  
batteries-loaded one. After gaining experience, when they know more 
precisely what they want, then going either minimal core or using the 
complete architect makes far more sense.

I also like how there are custom TW's built for specifically one purpose. 
That's also good. We still need a generalist that "just works."

A "bloated" standard install should be the default for newcomers. They can 
optimize and compatibilize later if it matters (I suggest it won't most of 
the time).

<<<
Perhaps if we had deemphasised the empty.html prior to now, you would be 
putting an argument if commander should be in empty.html or standard html 
but in either case it should be a removable plugin and/or bundle.

I do not think it should be the intention to install any optional tool in 
the core.
<<<

I agree to that. Keep the core as clean and minimal as possible. Have the 
package management do all the heavy lifting. Make it so users can strip 
things out of the standard distribution if they wanted to. A tool like 
Commander should be a default, didn't even have to install it, it's assumed 
you have it unless you specifically removed it (or went custom from the 
beginning) kind of tool in a standard, batteries-loaded distribution. 

Commander, or a tool like it, would be a strong tiddler management tool 
which standard users shouldn't have to hunt to find and install. Every 
standard OS should come with a high-functioning file manager, and every 
standard TW should come with a high-functioning tiddler manager. 

On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 7:04:49 PM UTC-5, TonyM wrote:
>
> Mohammad,
>
> This question of "In the Core" is a repeating one and I believe often a 
> source of unnecessary debate. I hope I can shed a little light on it here 
> from my perspective.
>
> The key phrase I believe is "chose to remove"
>
>
>- When something is in the core is is not removable from TiddlyWiki, 
>even if it may be hidden by overwriting shadow tiddlers.
>- People often confuse empty.html as representing the core, when in 
>fact this is the minimum usable wiki, and yes, unless it is in the core it 
>is unlikely to be seen in empty.html
>- By popular demand anything can be included in empty.html but by 
>definition it should remain a minimum usable wiki.
>- I believe we should de-emphasise empty.html as a "developers minimum 
>usable wiki" and provide other editions for new users, learners, editors 
>etc... These editions would include the contents TOC and plugins that 
>customise tiddlywiki for the target audience. For example commander could 
>be in a standard.html edition or a designers.html edition.
>
> On

[tw5] Re: bash script fails after git update (node.js on linux)

2019-02-13 Thread Rich

These suggestions fixed everything. The only scary thing was that my 
tiddlers took about 15 seconds to show their content.  SHould I file an 
issue or is thisan expected part of "laziness?" Thnx again!

On Sunday, February 10, 2019 at 2:37:15 AM UTC-10, Rich wrote:
>
> Thanks Jeremy and JWD.  I got busy with other things but will see if I can 
> sort this out today.  My guess is that I accidentally put the space in the 
> shebang line, which would explain why the launcher failed but the command 
> line worked.  WIll try out all the other good suggestions too.  Thanks as 
> always!
>
> On Wednesday, January 30, 2019 at 10:15:50 PM UTC-10, Rich wrote:
>>
>> Tiddlywiki  5.1.20 prerelease on nodjs on manjaro linux
>>
>> I have a little bash script that runs on starting the system or that I 
>> manually run to reload TW after updates and such.  The script has worked 
>> fine to this point, and if I run it from the command line it still works, 
>> but when I launch it from its desktop file without going to a terminal it 
>> refuses to start. Although it shows up in the system monitor, the browser 
>> won't load the page, indicating that the node server did not actually start 
>> serving anything.
>>
>> Here is the refiddle script:
>>
>>  #! /bin/bash
>> #restart TiddlyWIki node.js server after updates
>> killall node
>> tiddlywiki /home/rich/Dropbox/FiddlyWiki --server $:/core/save/lazy-all
>>
>> I can't use the newer --listen directive in place of server bacause it 
>> does not recognize the lazy loading param at the end while --server still 
>> does.
>> If I run from command line or alt-f2 with full path it runs fine, but it 
>> fails to run when launched from the .desktop file below.  I only updated 
>> TW, not the script or desktop file, both of which worked fine before the 
>> update as far as I can tell.
>>
>> .desktop launcher:
>> #!/usr/bin/env xdg-open
>> [Desktop Entry]
>> Encoding=UTF-8
>> Name=refiddle
>> Categories=Acessories
>> Exec=/home/rich/bin/refiddle
>> Icon=/usr/share/icons/HighContrast/scalable/actions/view-refresh.svg
>> StartupNotify=false
>> Terminal=false
>> Type=Application
>> Comment=Restart FiddlyWiki
>>
>> I tried a few things but am basically stumped as to why it is failing.  
>> ANyone have any ideas?
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: search and replace in tiddlers

AFAIK, unless there's some brand-new operators, you can't actually replace 
text *inside* of tiddler text or fields. For that you'll need some 3rd 
party macro or widget. 

-- Mark

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>
> Is there any way to search and replace in
> Tiddlers
>
>- text
>- field value
>
> for example search foo and replace with bar?
>
>
> --Mohammad
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[tw5] Re: search and replace in tiddlers

Using filters you can test for particular values in fields SEARCH and use a 
button and action widget to setfield values REPLACE either for one tiddler or a 
batch of tiddlers.

If your field contains multiple values you may need to use the list operators 
to change one only in a list.

Global search and replace can be done opening the whole wiki in a text editor 
but you must be careful not to change the wrong values. Backup if doing this.

Regards
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[tw5] Re: Tiddler Commander

Mohammad,

This question of "In the Core" is a repeating one and I believe often a 
source of unnecessary debate. I hope I can shed a little light on it here 
from my perspective.

The key phrase I believe is "chose to remove"

   - When something is in the core is is not removable from TiddlyWiki, 
   even if it may be hidden by overwriting shadow tiddlers.
   - People often confuse empty.html as representing the core, when in fact 
   this is the minimum usable wiki, and yes, unless it is in the core it is 
   unlikely to be seen in empty.html
   - By popular demand anything can be included in empty.html but by 
   definition it should remain a minimum usable wiki.
   - I believe we should de-emphasise empty.html as a "developers minimum 
   usable wiki" and provide other editions for new users, learners, editors 
   etc... These editions would include the contents TOC and plugins that 
   customise tiddlywiki for the target audience. For example commander could 
   be in a standard.html edition or a designers.html edition.

On Commander and Empty.html, I would not want Commander, ideally not even 
tag manager and Tiddler manager in the core and thus always in empty.html 
because what ever I build should not automatically contain components which 
end users may use to break the designed wiki. Sure they may be included via 
plugins in a standard.html edition, but as plugins I can "chose to remove"

A new possibility I can see using designed wiki templates, (or the proposed 
innerwiki plugin to run) is to publish a complete.html edition that 
includes tiddlywiki.com and additional plugins like commander and has a set 
of recipes that allows the user to export any of a set of standard 
editions. My New User Edition is somewhat similar but adds tools for the 
tiddlywiki student to maintain their own notes.

The core is the place where if anycode is placed it becomes forever 
committed to by the community, will always need maintenance, must be high 
performance, must always be backwardly compatible, and is considered 
minimum code.

Only Shared Services and facilities should be in the core, and cases where 
it is necessary for performance.

Perhaps if we had deemphasised the empty.html prior to now, you would be 
putting an argument if commander should be in empty.html or standard html 
but in either case it should be a removable plugin and/or bundle.

I do not think it should be the intention to install any optional tool in 
the core.

Regards
Tony

On Thursday, February 14, 2019 at 12:53:24 AM UTC+11, Mohammad wrote:
>
> If any feature gets into the core, then people trust it and are sure they 
> will have long support!
>
> --Mohammad
>
> On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 12:47:15 AM UTC+3:30, Diego Mesa wrote:
>>
>> Lets not hijack this thread Josiah. Suffice it to say, I agree we should 
>> first worry about whether it works. Then, whether it works well. I just 
>> posed the question, as if the end goal is indeed to get into the core, it 
>> would be logical to eventually bake this into $:/Manager's UI somehow. 
>>
>> Me wanting to see a plugin in the core, is the highest compliment I can 
>> pay the plugin. 
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 12, 2019 at 3:09:50 PM UTC-6, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>>
>>> what is with "core" that  so easy comes upfront?
>>>
>>> i'd rather know it works well. 
>>>
>>> "core" additions are something else. much later. IF proven for that,
>>>
>>> this looks like great addition--but in process.
>>>
>>> likely a plugin.
>>>
>>> let us deal with what it is dealing with first.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, 12 February 2019 19:54:44 UTC+1, Diego Mesa wrote:

 Hey Mohammad,o a

 This is great! Any thoughts on getting this into core so its part of 
 `$:/Manager`?h later.

 Diego

 On Tuesday, February 12, 2019 at 9:30:53 AM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Announcement: Tiddler Commander
> Date: Feb 12th, 2019
> Status: beta (idea)
>
> Demo: *https://kookma.github.io/TW-Commander/ 
> *
>
>
>
> Referring to the discussion here: 
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/BxJsWuae-Uc/JapAx4mtBgAJ
> I have prepared a small toolkit called Tiddler Commander or in short 
> Commander. This is a proof of concept and
> both the name and operations can be changed.
>
> I highly welcome any constructive idea and I hope get feedback from 
> both users and developers.
>
> I also welcome any collaboration as is discussed in other posts.
>
> Warning: This is a beta release and is not in form of plugin! Do not 
> import to your own wikis because of the risk of data loss.
>
> Cheers
> Mohammad
>
>
> likely
>

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[tw5] Re: I think we are entering the Golden Age of TiddlyWiki -- a thought

Josiah,

Perhaps this is true, the developments and possibilities are expanding at 
an incredible rate from a base that was already almost infinite in 
applications. 

I see this in

   - Additional Server options and static file hosting
   - Multi-access solutions like bob
   - PHP hosting
   - Timimi local file saving
   - Developing - InnerWiki, local storage and more
   - New filters like "kin"
   - A Strengthening community.


I think the question is confused by the fact that perhaps *TiddlyWiki is 
the Golden Egg (perfect tool) in a Golden age of User interactive content 
creation.*

Tony

On Thursday, February 14, 2019 at 5:24:03 AM UTC+11, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> The title says it ...
>
> I think we are entering the Golden Age of TiddlyWiki -- a thought
>
>
> J. 
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Re: [tw5] Re: Creating a link to a tiddler that opens target in edit mode

2019-02-13 Thread stefano franchi

In fact, given the "personal knowledge base/personal journal" stated goal
of TW, I think it would be nice to have a simple plugin that

a. Creates a tiddler with a sorted list of journal tiddlers
b. Puts edit buttons next to each item
c. Has a "new journal entry" button at the top.
d. Reformat the list into a panel for the sidebar
 and similar related things, like creating a customizable journal
template, etc.

But perhaps such a tiny plugin exists already.

Cheers
S.

On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 4:48 PM stefano franchi 
wrote:

> Nice ideas! (Both Jack's and Mark's)
> I think I am going to steal them both.
>
> S.
>
> On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 1:29 PM Jack Baty  wrote:
>
>> The button works great, thanks!
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 2:08:37 PM UTC-5, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> Actions require action widgets, generally. You can place a button like:
>>>
>>> <$button message="tm-edit-tiddler">Open
>>>
>>> next to your links. Note that you can use CSS to style buttons to look
>>> like links.
>>>
>>> Have fun!
>>> -- Mark
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 10:51:58 AM UTC-8, Jack Baty wrote:

 I feel like this is an easy one and I'm just missing it.

 I have a tiddler that transcludes my most recent Journal entry. In that
 tiddler I have a link that navigates to the same transcluded tiddler. That
 part is easy, I just link to currentTiddler.


 <$list filter="[tag[Journal]sort[created]last[]]">
 Journal for <$view field="created" format="date" template="DDD
 DDth MMM "/>
 <$transclude  mode="block"/>

 <$link>Go to
 


 What I'd like in addition to that "Go to" link is another link that
 navigates to the currentTiddler and opens it for editing. Possible?

 Thanks,

 Jack

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Re: [tw5] Re: Creating a link to a tiddler that opens target in edit mode

2019-02-13 Thread stefano franchi

Nice ideas! (Both Jack's and Mark's)
I think I am going to steal them both.

S.

On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 1:29 PM Jack Baty  wrote:

> The button works great, thanks!
>
> On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 2:08:37 PM UTC-5, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> Actions require action widgets, generally. You can place a button like:
>>
>> <$button message="tm-edit-tiddler">Open
>>
>> next to your links. Note that you can use CSS to style buttons to look
>> like links.
>>
>> Have fun!
>> -- Mark
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 10:51:58 AM UTC-8, Jack Baty wrote:
>>>
>>> I feel like this is an easy one and I'm just missing it.
>>>
>>> I have a tiddler that transcludes my most recent Journal entry. In that
>>> tiddler I have a link that navigates to the same transcluded tiddler. That
>>> part is easy, I just link to currentTiddler.
>>>
>>>
>>> <$list filter="[tag[Journal]sort[created]last[]]">
>>> Journal for <$view field="created" format="date" template="DDD DDth
>>> MMM "/>
>>> <$transclude  mode="block"/>
>>>
>>> <$link>Go to
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> What I'd like in addition to that "Go to" link is another link that
>>> navigates to the currentTiddler and opens it for editing. Possible?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Jack
>>>
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[tw5] Re: Tiddler Commander

This will let you select fields from the existing pool -- but only if they 
exist in tiddlers selected by the current filter. That way you are 
inundated with thousands of irrelevant fields.

(Make a backup before trying)

-- Mark

On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 2:07:46 PM UTC-8, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Hi Mark,
>  Create using template was added!
>
> Mohammad
>
> On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 8:22:02 PM UTC+3:30, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> A thought about bulk creation. When I make tiddlers in bulk, I usually 
>> want to specify fields as well, preferably with default values. The more 
>> universal way to do that would be to specify a base "tiddler" instead of a 
>> "title", whose fields (with default values) get used as the basis. Stepping 
>> it up a notch (so you won't get bored, hah!), you could have a dropdown 
>> list of tiddlers that are templates for bulk creation.
>>
>> Have fun!
>> -- Mark
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 8:22:30 AM UTC-8, Mohammad wrote:
>>>
>>> A minor update!
>>>
>>> See the original post here:
>>>
>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/w9Bv-WulKw8/CYf9D4H6BgAJ
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: search and replace in tiddlers

Do you mean across the whole of a TiddlyWiki?

Or just within a Tiddler?

J.

On Wednesday, 13 February 2019 23:16:55 UTC+1, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Is there any way to search and replace in
> Tiddlers
>
>- text
>- field value
>
> for example search foo and replace with bar?
>
>
> --Mohammad
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[tw5] Re: Tiddler Commander

excellent!

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> Hi Mark,
>  Create using template was added
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[tw5] search and replace in tiddlers

Is there any way to search and replace in
Tiddlers

   - text
   - field value

for example search foo and replace with bar?


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[tw5] Re: Tiddler Commander

Hi Mark,
 Create using template was added!

Mohammad

On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 8:22:02 PM UTC+3:30, Mark S. wrote:
>
> A thought about bulk creation. When I make tiddlers in bulk, I usually 
> want to specify fields as well, preferably with default values. The more 
> universal way to do that would be to specify a base "tiddler" instead of a 
> "title", whose fields (with default values) get used as the basis. Stepping 
> it up a notch (so you won't get bored, hah!), you could have a dropdown 
> list of tiddlers that are templates for bulk creation.
>
> Have fun!
> -- Mark
>
> On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 8:22:30 AM UTC-8, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> A minor update!
>>
>> See the original post here:
>>
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/w9Bv-WulKw8/CYf9D4H6BgAJ
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Tiddler Commander

A possible, perhaps easier way, is simply a pop-up that displays "Fields in 
use" but not connected to the Commander directly? Just for Reminder 
Information for users like me?

A thought
Josiah

On Wednesday, 13 February 2019 21:27:55 UTC+1, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> You are right.
>
> The one advantage for me would be I often forget what bespoke fields I 
> created. Did I create "assay" or "assays"? Dropdown on fields would help 
> users like me.
>
> Just a comment
> Josiah
>
> On Wednesday, 13 February 2019 21:19:17 UTC+1, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Yes and NO
>>
>> Yes, as it is handy to select among the existing fileds
>> No, the performance impact with big large scale wikis and cluttered the 
>> menu
>>
>> May be to add options to turn on /off this feature!
>>
>> --Mohammad
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 11:42:16 PM UTC+3:30, @TiddlyTweeter 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Regarding FIELDS ...
>>>
>>> Any chance of a drop down that shows what exists--as exists in the 
>>> editor?
>>>
>>> [image: Capture.PNG]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> Josiah
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: Tiddler Commander

You are right.

The one advantage for me would be I often forget what bespoke fields I 
created. Did I create "assay" or "assays"? Dropdown on fields would help 
users like me.

Just a comment
Josiah

On Wednesday, 13 February 2019 21:19:17 UTC+1, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Yes and NO
>
> Yes, as it is handy to select among the existing fileds
> No, the performance impact with big large scale wikis and cluttered the 
> menu
>
> May be to add options to turn on /off this feature!
>
> --Mohammad
>
> On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 11:42:16 PM UTC+3:30, @TiddlyTweeter 
> wrote:
>>
>> Regarding FIELDS ...
>>
>> Any chance of a drop down that shows what exists--as exists in the editor?
>>
>> [image: Capture.PNG]
>>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Josiah
>>
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Tiddler Commander

Yes and NO

Yes, as it is handy to select among the existing fileds
No, the performance impact with big large scale wikis and cluttered the menu

May be to add options to turn on /off this feature!

--Mohammad

On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 11:42:16 PM UTC+3:30, @TiddlyTweeter 
wrote:
>
> Regarding FIELDS ...
>
> Any chance of a drop down that shows what exists--as exists in the editor?
>
> [image: Capture.PNG]
>
>
>
> Best wishes
> Josiah
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Tiddler Commander

Regarding FIELDS ...

Any chance of a drop down that shows what exists--as exists in the editor?

[image: Capture.PNG]



Best wishes
Josiah


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[tw5] Re: Tiddler Commander

Noted

On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 11:06:03 PM UTC+3:30, @TiddlyTweeter 
wrote:
>
> I think the default link for filter HELP is not that helpful. It goes to 
> the static site in a not particularly helpful place.
>
> Maybe allow users to configure  the HELP link?
>
> [image: Capture.PNG]
>
>
>
> I mentioned this previously with an alternative example at 
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/ivg2AtepWo8/xBhGxehcBgAJ Point 
> 2.
>
> Best wishes
> Josiah
>

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[tw5] Re: Tiddler Commander

Apologies for email users. I had trouble getting the image to work.

On Wednesday, 13 February 2019 20:36:03 UTC+1, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> I think the default link for filter HELP is not that helpful. It goes to 
> the static site in a not particularly helpful place.
>
> Maybe allow users to configure  the HELP link?
>
> [image: Capture.PNG]
>
>
>
> I mentioned this previously with an alternative example at 
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/ivg2AtepWo8/xBhGxehcBgAJ Point 
> 2.
>
> Best wishes
> Josiah
>

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[tw5] Re: Tiddler Commander

I think the default link for filter HELP is not that helpful. It goes to 
the static site in a not particularly helpful place.

Maybe allow users to configure  the HELP link?

[image: Capture.PNG]



I mentioned this previously with an alternative example at 
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/ivg2AtepWo8/xBhGxehcBgAJ Point 2.

Best wishes
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[tw5] Re: Tiddler Commander

Watt,
 Thanks for your comment!
Unfortunately the confirmation parameter not available for many widgets 
messages and needs separate programming.
I welcome any contribution and would like to setup it in way people can 
help and contribute through GitHub.


Cheers
Mohammad


On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 8:07:23 PM UTC+3:30, Watt wrote:
>
> It's looking good Mohammad.
>
> Tiddly Tweeter and Mark are right to point out the need for checks, alerts 
> and confirmations. You can't have too many warnings and, as Mark points 
> out, some deletions have unseen consequences.
>
> I'm sure you know this already but I noticed the other day that;
>
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-delete-tiddler"/> 
>
> asks for confirmation on each deletion, whereas
>
> <$action-deletetiddler $tiddler={{!!title}}/> 
>
> doesn't ask for any confirmation. I wonder if that difference holds true 
> for other send-message constructions?
>
> Anyway I think a lot of people on the forum will have useful batch code to 
> contribute to your project. 
>
> Perhaps you could embed a google form or similar on your website to make 
> it easier for contributors and ensure standardised fields?
>
> Something like title, batch target, code, filter used, skill level, 
> source? 
> Others might suggest more useful fields.
>
> I think you designed something along those lines already for the Solutions 
> site but a google form would make it very easy for users to contribute.
>
> Good luck!
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Creating a link to a tiddler that opens target in edit mode

2019-02-13 Thread Jack Baty

The button works great, thanks!

On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 2:08:37 PM UTC-5, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Actions require action widgets, generally. You can place a button like:
>
> <$button message="tm-edit-tiddler">Open
>
> next to your links. Note that you can use CSS to style buttons to look 
> like links.
>
> Have fun!
> -- Mark
>
> On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 10:51:58 AM UTC-8, Jack Baty wrote:
>>
>> I feel like this is an easy one and I'm just missing it.
>>
>> I have a tiddler that transcludes my most recent Journal entry. In that 
>> tiddler I have a link that navigates to the same transcluded tiddler. That 
>> part is easy, I just link to currentTiddler.
>>
>>
>> <$list filter="[tag[Journal]sort[created]last[]]">
>> Journal for <$view field="created" format="date" template="DDD DDth 
>> MMM "/>
>> <$transclude  mode="block"/>
>>
>> <$link>Go to
>> 
>>
>>
>> What I'd like in addition to that "Go to" link is another link that 
>> navigates to the currentTiddler and opens it for editing. Possible?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jack
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Creating a link to a tiddler that opens target in edit mode

Actions require action widgets, generally. You can place a button like:

<$button message="tm-edit-tiddler">Open

next to your links. Note that you can use CSS to style buttons to look like 
links.

Have fun!
-- Mark

On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 10:51:58 AM UTC-8, Jack Baty wrote:
>
> I feel like this is an easy one and I'm just missing it.
>
> I have a tiddler that transcludes my most recent Journal entry. In that 
> tiddler I have a link that navigates to the same transcluded tiddler. That 
> part is easy, I just link to currentTiddler.
>
>
> <$list filter="[tag[Journal]sort[created]last[]]">
> Journal for <$view field="created" format="date" template="DDD DDth 
> MMM "/>
> <$transclude  mode="block"/>
>
> <$link>Go to
> 
>
>
> What I'd like in addition to that "Go to" link is another link that 
> navigates to the currentTiddler and opens it for editing. Possible?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jack
>

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Re: [tw5]Macro interactions

2019-02-13 Thread admls

Hi S.S.,

I just got the chance to test out your code. I had to massage it just a 
smidge, but it works great! Thank you. I have bashed my head against this 
problem for too long. I'm always amazed at how concise well-written 
tiddlywiki code can be. The solution to my problems is often achieved in 
half the code I thought would be required. 

Thank you everybody!

Best wishes,
Adam

On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 1:28:04 PM UTC, S. S. wrote:
>
> Adam, not sure if this is what you want.
>
> In tiddler : NewTiddler
> \define concatStateTiddler(value)
> <$list filter="[all[current]get[draft.of]] [all[current]!has[draft.of]] 
> +[addprefix[$:/state/]]">
> <$view field=backup-$value$/>
> 
> \end
>
> In tiddler: 
> *$:/state/NewTiddler*has field: *backup-1*
> field backup-1 has value : *somevalue*
>
> When *NewTiddler* is being viewed or edited, this macro in its text field 
> *< 1>>*  should give a result of : *somevalue*
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 7:58:14 AM UTC+7, admls wrote:
>>
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> I'm trying to populate a stylesheet, but I'm having trouble getting these 
>> macros to work together. The concatStateTiddler macro is supposed to give 
>> me the name of a state tiddler tacked composed of a prefix and the name of 
>> the currentTiddler. The backup macro is supposed to fetch some value from 
>> the state tiddler if it is present. And if it is not present, it should 
>> fetch it from a set of backup values.
>>
>> \define concatStateTiddler()
>> <$set filter="[all[current]get[draft.of]] [all[current]!has[draft.of]]">
>> "$:/state/<>"
>> 
>> \end
>>
>> \define backup(value)
>> <$view tiddler=$(concatStateTiddler)$ field="""$value$""">
>>  <$view tiddler="$:/config/backup-values" field="""backup-$value$""">
>> 
>> 
>> \end
>>
>> I can get it to work if concatStateTiddler looks like this:
>> \define concatStateTiddler()
>> "$:/state/$(currentTiddler)$"
>> \end
>>
>> But I want the view and edit mode versions of the tiddler to use the same 
>> state tiddler. Hence the first version of concatStateTiddler. But the first 
>> version doesn't play nice with the backup macro. Any ideas of what I'm 
>> doing wrong here?
>>
>> The only thing I can think is that the set widget is creating a list, 
>> even if it is a list consisting of only one element (on account of the use 
>> of [all[current]]). That list format may be playing havoc with the backup 
>> macro. But I really don't have any idea beyond that. Any help would be 
>> greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Adam
>>
>

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[tw5] Creating a link to a tiddler that opens target in edit mode

2019-02-13 Thread Jack Baty

I feel like this is an easy one and I'm just missing it.

I have a tiddler that transcludes my most recent Journal entry. In that 
tiddler I have a link that navigates to the same transcluded tiddler. That 
part is easy, I just link to currentTiddler.


<$list filter="[tag[Journal]sort[created]last[]]">
Journal for <$view field="created" format="date" template="DDD DDth MMM 
"/>
<$transclude  mode="block"/>

<$link>Go to



What I'd like in addition to that "Go to" link is another link that 
navigates to the currentTiddler and opens it for editing. Possible?

Thanks,

Jack

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[tw5] Re: Tiddler Commander

Noted!

On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 8:24:56 PM UTC+3:30, @TiddlyTweeter 
wrote:
>
> Right. Option on bulk creation that clones a Tiddler that has what you 
> need in it already.
>
> Something like that.
>
> J.
>
> On Wednesday, 13 February 2019 17:52:02 UTC+1, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> A thought about bulk creation. When I make tiddlers in bulk, I usually 
>> want to specify fields as well, preferably with default values. The more 
>> universal way to do that would be to specify a base "tiddler" instead of a 
>> "title", whose fields (with default values) get used as the basis. Stepping 
>> it up a notch (so you won't get bored, hah!), you could have a dropdown 
>> list of tiddlers that are templates for bulk creation.
>>
>> Have fun!
>> -- Mark
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 8:22:30 AM UTC-8, Mohammad wrote:
>>>
>>> A minor update!
>>>
>>> See the original post here:
>>>
>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/w9Bv-WulKw8/CYf9D4H6BgAJ
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Tiddler Commander

Hi Mark,
 Added to do list. As the code is modular users can simply add their own 
template later on.

--Mohammad

On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 8:22:02 PM UTC+3:30, Mark S. wrote:
>
> A thought about bulk creation. When I make tiddlers in bulk, I usually 
> want to specify fields as well, preferably with default values. The more 
> universal way to do that would be to specify a base "tiddler" instead of a 
> "title", whose fields (with default values) get used as the basis. Stepping 
> it up a notch (so you won't get bored, hah!), you could have a dropdown 
> list of tiddlers that are templates for bulk creation.
>
> Have fun!
> -- Mark
>
> On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 8:22:30 AM UTC-8, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> A minor update!
>>
>> See the original post here:
>>
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/w9Bv-WulKw8/CYf9D4H6BgAJ
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: I think we are entering the Golden Age of TiddlyWiki -- a thought

repeat for email ...

On Wednesday, 13 February 2019 19:24:03 UTC+1, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> The title says it ...
>
> I think we are entering the Golden Age of TiddlyWiki -- a thought
>
>
> J. 
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[tw5] Re: Tiddler Commander

FYI -- note there is a tiddlymap entry under Tiddler 
Management/Manipulation.

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[tw5] Re: Tiddler Commander

Right. Option on bulk creation that clones a Tiddler that has what you need 
in it already.

Something like that.

J.

On Wednesday, 13 February 2019 17:52:02 UTC+1, Mark S. wrote:
>
> A thought about bulk creation. When I make tiddlers in bulk, I usually 
> want to specify fields as well, preferably with default values. The more 
> universal way to do that would be to specify a base "tiddler" instead of a 
> "title", whose fields (with default values) get used as the basis. Stepping 
> it up a notch (so you won't get bored, hah!), you could have a dropdown 
> list of tiddlers that are templates for bulk creation.
>
> Have fun!
> -- Mark
>
> On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 8:22:30 AM UTC-8, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> A minor update!
>>
>> See the original post here:
>>
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/w9Bv-WulKw8/CYf9D4H6BgAJ
>>
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[tw5] Re: Tiddler Commander

A thought about bulk creation. When I make tiddlers in bulk, I usually want 
to specify fields as well, preferably with default values. The more 
universal way to do that would be to specify a base "tiddler" instead of a 
"title", whose fields (with default values) get used as the basis. Stepping 
it up a notch (so you won't get bored, hah!), you could have a dropdown 
list of tiddlers that are templates for bulk creation.

Have fun!
-- Mark

On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 8:22:30 AM UTC-8, Mohammad wrote:
>
> A minor update!
>
> See the original post here:
>
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/w9Bv-WulKw8/CYf9D4H6BgAJ
>

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[tw5] Re: Tiddler Commander

2019-02-13 Thread Watt

It's looking good Mohammad.

Tiddly Tweeter and Mark are right to point out the need for checks, alerts and
confirmations. You can't have too many warnings and, as Mark points out, some
deletions have unseen consequences.

I'm sure you know this already but I noticed the other day that;

<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-delete-tiddler"/>

asks for confirmation on each deletion, whereas

<$action-deletetiddler $tiddler={{!!title}}/>

doesn't ask for any confirmation. I wonder if that difference holds true for
other send-message constructions?

Anyway I think a lot of people on the forum will have useful batch code to
contribute to your project.

Perhaps you could embed a google form or similar on your website to make it
easier for contributors and ensure standardised fields?

Something like title, batch target, code, filter used, skill level, source?
Others might suggest more useful fields.

I think you designed something along those lines already for the Solutions site
but a google form would make it very easy for users to contribute.

Good luck!

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[tw5] Re: Tiddler Commander

A minor update!

See the original post here:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/w9Bv-WulKw8/CYf9D4H6BgAJ

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[tw5] Re: Tiddler Commander

Hi Mark,
 Thank you for your comment. I absolutely need these evaluation!

Cheers
Mohammad

On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 7:26:19 PM UTC+3:30, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> TW really needs these kinds of tools if tiddlers are to convey "the 
> smallest semantic unit" successfully.
>
> Along the lines of "Danger Will Robinson!", removing suffix "2" from "Test 
> 2" will cause it to overwrite "Test". It probably needs some pre-check to 
> warn users that "the following tiddlers will be overwritten".
>
> -- Mark
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 7:22:23 AM UTC-8, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> One thing. Just an early thought. Is whether parts of it might need 
>> ALERTS & CONFIRMS? It's a powerful tool. It could eat your wiki if you not 
>> fully clear what you doing.
>>
>> I will comment in more detail on specifics later.
>>
>> J.
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Tiddler Commander

Hi everyone,

TW really needs these kinds of tools if tiddlers are to convey "the 
smallest semantic unit" successfully.

Along the lines of "Danger Will Robinson!", removing suffix "2" from "Test 
2" will cause it to overwrite "Test". It probably needs some pre-check to 
warn users that "the following tiddlers will be overwritten".

-- Mark


On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 7:22:23 AM UTC-8, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> One thing. Just an early thought. Is whether parts of it might need ALERTS 
> & CONFIRMS? It's a powerful tool. It could eat your wiki if you not fully 
> clear what you doing.
>
> I will comment in more detail on specifics later.
>
> J.
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Query? -- Full Screen button in Editor?

Another request.

That it can open in a second window.

Josiah

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[tw5] Re: Tiddler Commander

One thing. Just an early thought. Is whether parts of it might need ALERTS 
& CONFIRMS? It's a powerful tool. It could eat your wiki if you not fully 
clear what you doing.

I will comment in more detail on specifics later.

J.

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[tw5] Re: Tiddler Commander

Quick interim comment

The Modular Design looks very good. Enabling easier extensibility.

J.

Mohammad wrote:
>
> ... I tried to have commander in a modular form 
>

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[tw5] Re: Tiddler Commander

Dear h0p3,

Many thanks for your kind words!

I am glad you find it useful. Of course this tool is not comparable with 
TiddlyTool from Eric Shulman, he is one of Tiddlywiki expert.
By the way, I will try to see which part of your comments are possible to 
be implemented.

Searching and replacing contents inside tiddlers need string processing. By 
my best of knowledge it is not present in the TW core
and needs installing additional plugins. But if Jeremy or other developer 
see this post may give me advises how to tackle such case.


Cheers
Mohammad




On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 3:58:58 AM UTC+3:30, h0p3 wrote:
>
> * https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/w9Bv-WulKw8
> * https://philosopher.life/#2019.02.12%20-%20TWGGF%3A%20Commander
>
> This is the perfect tool for someone who uses TW like I do. I have to 
> massage my wiki. Thank you for making this gorgeous tool. I want to kiss 
> your feet. I //strongly// agree: the functionality of this tool should be 
> in the core. It's absurdly useful. It appears to be the second coming of 
> TiddlerTool. I will joyously be testing it out.
>
> I have no expectations; I'm grateful to have the chance to use your 
> software. What I want or would use, of course, may not be valuable to this 
> project. You've asked for feedback, and I'm going to take the opportunity 
> to give you my constructive ideas. 
>
> * Enable search input boxes which do not require filter expressions.
> ** Filter expression construction increases the cognitive load for the 
> user. 
> ** TiddlyTool was outstanding for this because I could search by title, 
> field, or tag, one at a time, to narrow things down.
> *** Searching based on specified content in the body would be useful.
> *** Searching by date ranges in title prefixes (e.g. .MM.DD 
>  - .MM.DD ) would be useful to 
> some.
> ** Case sensitivity options may be useful.
>
> * Allow one to manually pick out exceptions.
> ** The ability to select by checkbox can be extremely useful.
> ** Applying batch operations to checked or unchecked enables a fuzziness 
> in the initial search.
> ** This may have an unworthy performance penalty.
>
> * Enable the ability to replace specified contents in the bodies of 
> tiddlers.
>
> * I would request you optimize for performance.
> ** I can tell you that once you start hitting thousands of tiddlers, these 
> kinds of tools can sometimes become unwieldy and even broken. I have had 
> them freeze and crash browsers and node many times.
>
> Your work is dope. Thank you! 
>

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[tw5] Re: Tiddler Commander

Thanks Tony!
I will consider them for improvement in next release.

I tried to have commander in a modular form and I used very much from 
Tiddler Concept!
Its the beauty of TW which allow you develop rather complex operation using 
tiny small one!

The first phase is to get every operation works as planned. The UI as you 
said needs more work and I would be glad to have your comments
like those raised in your post!

By the way, I appreciate your time for evaluating commander.


Cheers
Mohammad


On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 2:16:52 AM UTC+3:30, TonyM wrote:
>
> Some Quick Feedback
>
>
>- 
>
>Search via Filter expression 
> should indicate it is a 
>link to an external resource
>
>- 
>
>"Add remove prefix" and "add remove suffix" sound funny, I suggest 
>replace with "Prefix and Suffix" and let the buttons highlight "add and 
>remove" perhaps even subtle green and red buttons or like for tags.
>- 
>
>Do the above for consistency in each "Tool"
>
> Can I suggest that in the tids section be called tiddlers and the "Create 
> Bulk tiddlers" become Create "numbered tiddlers" and that this tab appear 
> because it uses a particular tag?
>
> If you do this then others can create tiddlers, that generate tiddlers, 
> using other schemes, that will also appear here. I believe strongly we need 
> a set of test data generators both for convenience, learning and shared 
> support such that people could say 'I have N tiddlers generated using test 
> data "numbered tree", "numbered tiddlers" and use the following macro 
> blah and this occurs".
>
> My proposed generator tiddler can be stand alone but you can provision and 
> ability for inclusion in the commander.
>
> Love your Work Mohammad
> Tony
>
> On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 2:30:53 AM UTC+11, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Announcement: Tiddler Commander
>> Date: Feb 12th, 2019
>> Status: beta (idea)
>>
>> Demo: *https://kookma.github.io/TW-Commander/ 
>> *
>>
>>
>>
>> Referring to the discussion here: 
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/BxJsWuae-Uc/JapAx4mtBgAJ
>> I have prepared a small toolkit called Tiddler Commander or in short 
>> Commander. This is a proof of concept and
>> both the name and operations can be changed.
>>
>> I highly welcome any constructive idea and I hope get feedback from both 
>> users and developers.
>>
>> I also welcome any collaboration as is discussed in other posts.
>>
>> Warning: This is a beta release and is not in form of plugin! Do not 
>> import to your own wikis because of the risk of data loss.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>>
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[tw5] Re: Tiddler Commander

If any feature gets into the core, then people trust it and are sure they 
will have long support!

--Mohammad

On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 12:47:15 AM UTC+3:30, Diego Mesa wrote:
>
> Lets not hijack this thread Josiah. Suffice it to say, I agree we should 
> first worry about whether it works. Then, whether it works well. I just 
> posed the question, as if the end goal is indeed to get into the core, it 
> would be logical to eventually bake this into $:/Manager's UI somehow. 
>
> Me wanting to see a plugin in the core, is the highest compliment I can 
> pay the plugin. 
>
> On Tuesday, February 12, 2019 at 3:09:50 PM UTC-6, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> what is with "core" that  so easy comes upfront?
>>
>> i'd rather know it works well. 
>>
>> "core" additions are something else. much later. IF proven for that,
>>
>> this looks like great addition--but in process.
>>
>> likely a plugin.
>>
>> let us deal with what it is dealing with first.
>>
>> On Tuesday, 12 February 2019 19:54:44 UTC+1, Diego Mesa wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey Mohammad,o a
>>>
>>> This is great! Any thoughts on getting this into core so its part of 
>>> `$:/Manager`?h later.
>>>
>>> Diego
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 12, 2019 at 9:30:53 AM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:

 Announcement: Tiddler Commander
 Date: Feb 12th, 2019
 Status: beta (idea)

 Demo: *https://kookma.github.io/TW-Commander/ 
 *



 Referring to the discussion here: 
 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/BxJsWuae-Uc/JapAx4mtBgAJ
 I have prepared a small toolkit called Tiddler Commander or in short 
 Commander. This is a proof of concept and
 both the name and operations can be changed.

 I highly welcome any constructive idea and I hope get feedback from 
 both users and developers.

 I also welcome any collaboration as is discussed in other posts.

 Warning: This is a beta release and is not in form of plugin! Do not 
 import to your own wikis because of the risk of data loss.

 Cheers
 Mohammad


 likely

>>>

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[tw5] Re: Tiddler Commander

Thanks Diego!
I will work to improve it and resolve the issues raised by people in this 
group.
I would be very useful if this or a similar tool can be added to the core!

By the way the part dealing with tiddler name should be used with care and 
I think there is hesitate to add such feature.
It can breaks all the links to those renamed tiddlers. So, one solution is 
to take care of that problem.

--Mohammad


On Tuesday, February 12, 2019 at 10:24:44 PM UTC+3:30, Diego Mesa wrote:
>
> Hey Mohammad,
>
> This is great! Any thoughts on getting this into core so its part of 
> `$:/Manager`?
>
> Diego
>
> On Tuesday, February 12, 2019 at 9:30:53 AM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Announcement: Tiddler Commander
>> Date: Feb 12th, 2019
>> Status: beta (idea)
>>
>> Demo: *https://kookma.github.io/TW-Commander/ 
>> *
>>
>>
>>
>> Referring to the discussion here: 
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/BxJsWuae-Uc/JapAx4mtBgAJ
>> I have prepared a small toolkit called Tiddler Commander or in short 
>> Commander. This is a proof of concept and
>> both the name and operations can be changed.
>>
>> I highly welcome any constructive idea and I hope get feedback from both 
>> users and developers.
>>
>> I also welcome any collaboration as is discussed in other posts.
>>
>> Warning: This is a beta release and is not in form of plugin! Do not 
>> import to your own wikis because of the risk of data loss.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Tiddler Commander

Hello Birthe,
 The issue resolved. See the updated version.

Cheers
Mohammad

On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 1:01:50 AM UTC+3:30, Birthe C wrote:
>
> I can Add suffix, but not Remove suffix. (nothing happens)
>
> Birthe
>
> tirsdag den 12. februar 2019 kl. 16.30.53 UTC+1 skrev Mohammad:
>>
>> Announcement: Tiddler Commander
>> Date: Feb 12th, 2019
>> Status: beta (idea)
>>
>> Demo: *https://kookma.github.io/TW-Commander/ 
>> *
>>
>>
>>
>> Referring to the discussion here: 
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/BxJsWuae-Uc/JapAx4mtBgAJ
>> I have prepared a small toolkit called Tiddler Commander or in short 
>> Commander. This is a proof of concept and
>> both the name and operations can be changed.
>>
>> I highly welcome any constructive idea and I hope get feedback from both 
>> users and developers.
>>
>> I also welcome any collaboration as is discussed in other posts.
>>
>> Warning: This is a beta release and is not in form of plugin! Do not 
>> import to your own wikis because of the risk of data loss.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Query? -- Full Screen button in Editor?

2019-02-13 Thread Sylvain Naudin



Le lundi 4 février 2019 15:08:30 UTC+1, JD a écrit :
>
> Hi Josiah, 
>
> I've been wanting something like this for a while, and so I went ahead and 
> did it, you can try it here:
>
> http://j.d.fullscreen.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> Although, that is not the end for me, as I wish to have this fullscreen 
> edit template centered and padded in desktop mode. But because you 
> mentioned CodeMirror's fullscreen view as reference, that is what I'm 
> making default for now hehe.
>
> Hope this helps :)
>
> -jd
>

Hi JD.

It's a good start !

I whish tc-editor-toolbar would be fixed :) It's just tc-tiddler-title 
tc-tiddler-edit-title now.

And maybe have a look at CSS (don't work with your theme Material) and with 
own palette I don't see bar icons.

Cheers,
Sylvain

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Re: [tw5]Macro interactions

2019-02-13 Thread S. S.

Adam, not sure if this is what you want.

In tiddler : NewTiddler
\define concatStateTiddler(value)
<$list filter="[all[current]get[draft.of]] [all[current]!has[draft.of]] 
+[addprefix[$:/state/]]">
<$view field=backup-$value$/>

\end

In tiddler: 
*$:/state/NewTiddler*has field: *backup-1*
field backup-1 has value : *somevalue*

When *NewTiddler* is being viewed or edited, this macro in its text field 
*<>*  should give a result of : *somevalue*


On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 7:58:14 AM UTC+7, admls wrote:
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> I'm trying to populate a stylesheet, but I'm having trouble getting these 
> macros to work together. The concatStateTiddler macro is supposed to give 
> me the name of a state tiddler tacked composed of a prefix and the name of 
> the currentTiddler. The backup macro is supposed to fetch some value from 
> the state tiddler if it is present. And if it is not present, it should 
> fetch it from a set of backup values.
>
> \define concatStateTiddler()
> <$set filter="[all[current]get[draft.of]] [all[current]!has[draft.of]]">
> "$:/state/<>"
> 
> \end
>
> \define backup(value)
> <$view tiddler=$(concatStateTiddler)$ field="""$value$""">
>  <$view tiddler="$:/config/backup-values" field="""backup-$value$""">
> 
> 
> \end
>
> I can get it to work if concatStateTiddler looks like this:
> \define concatStateTiddler()
> "$:/state/$(currentTiddler)$"
> \end
>
> But I want the view and edit mode versions of the tiddler to use the same 
> state tiddler. Hence the first version of concatStateTiddler. But the first 
> version doesn't play nice with the backup macro. Any ideas of what I'm 
> doing wrong here?
>
> The only thing I can think is that the set widget is creating a list, even 
> if it is a list consisting of only one element (on account of the use of 
> [all[current]]). That list format may be playing havoc with the backup 
> macro. But I really don't have any idea beyond that. Any help would be 
> greatly appreciated.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Adam
>

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