date:20191114

Ciao David

Nice functional design for the job!

Best
TT

David Gifford wrote:
>
> http://giffmex.org/experiments/apocalipsis.exegesis.html
>
> I recommend clicking on the link at the top of the list (Apocalipsis 
> 1.1-8) and seeing what I did with tabs for 1.1-2
>

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[tw5] Re: Another project of mine

2019-11-14 Thread Birthe C

Hi Tony,

Luckily Firefox is not doing that to me, but chromium does no matter my 
settings. Problem being that translation into Danish is most often not 
understandable LOL. Sometimes rather good, but not when reading about 
Tiddlywiki nor for knitting and sewing patterns.

Birthe

fredag den 15. november 2019 kl. 06.30.21 UTC+1 skrev TonyM:
>
> My Firefox offered to translate it. I am a way from my desk so can't be 
> sure if I have an add-on.
>
> The English made full sense although I am not religious it was easy to 
> read.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Another project of mine

2019-11-14 Thread Birthe C

Hi David,

Very clean and nice looking. The use of colour in the tabs making 
everything fit nicely together, grouped and giving an overview. I also like 
your colour choices, that marking of text fits nicely it is there but not 
too distinct either. I do not understand spanish of course, but like the 
way you have put it together.

Birthe

fredag den 15. november 2019 kl. 04.20.22 UTC+1 skrev David Gifford:
>
> Hi everyone
>
> Since Saturday I have been working on this project. I am teaching an 
> intensive course on the book of Revelation all next week, and so I created 
> this TiddlyWiki to add the Spanish text and notes needed. I am not quite 
> done but I thought you might like to see what I did.
>
> http://giffmex.org/experiments/apocalipsis.exegesis.html
>
> I recommend clicking on the link at the top of the list (Apocalipsis 
> 1.1-8) and seeing what I did with tabs for 1.1-2
>
> Blessings, Dave
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Another project of mine

My Firefox offered to translate it. I am a way from my desk so can't be sure if 
I have an add-on.

The English made full sense although I am not religious it was easy to read.

Regards
Tony

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[tw5] Re: Another project of mine

2019-11-14 Thread AndrewMc

Tony

To what "automatic english translation" are you referring?
I interpreted your comment to mean that David's TiddlyWiki contained an 
English translation, but I could not find one.

Cheers
Andrew Mc

On Friday, November 15, 2019 at 4:50:01 PM UTC+13, TonyM wrote:
>
> David,
>
> The automatic english translation seems great quality as well.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Friday, November 15, 2019 at 2:20:22 PM UTC+11, David Gifford wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone
>>
>> Since Saturday I have been working on this project. I am teaching an 
>> intensive course on the book of Revelation all next week, and so I created 
>> this TiddlyWiki to add the Spanish text and notes needed. I am not quite 
>> done but I thought you might like to see what I did.
>>
>> http://giffmex.org/experiments/apocalipsis.exegesis.html
>>
>> I recommend clicking on the link at the top of the list (Apocalipsis 
>> 1.1-8) and seeing what I did with tabs for 1.1-2
>>
>> Blessings, Dave
>>
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Pinboard plugin: pin your notices to a cork board create sticky notes and put on a bulletin board

Tony!
Thanks. I fixed this issue!

--Mohammad


On Friday, November 15, 2019 at 7:56:34 AM UTC+3:30, TonyM wrote:
>
> Mohammad,
>
> You could hide notes with has[draft.of]] from the pin board.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Friday, November 15, 2019 at 3:16:10 PM UTC+11, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Mark!
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, November 14, 2019 at 11:05:17 PM UTC+3:30, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> Wow -- that inline edit is great -- nearly seamless. We need this for 
>>> all our tiddlers!
>>>
>>> On the corkboard, there is no menu to "View in window".
>>>
>>> Einstien sb. Einstein
>>>
>>
>> Noted! 
>>
>>>
>>> Wishlist: Ability to arrange notes.
>>>
>>
>> I will see how this is possible! Right now I open one of the notice and 
>> then using the tag pill I reorder the notices 
>>
>>>
>>> At the dawn of the computer age, 3M used to make a sticky-note app that 
>>> allowed people to pin and display images as on a corkboard. 
>>> It was fun, but had no organizational tools. Combining that interface 
>>> with TW organizing brings together the best of two world's.
>>>
>>
>> TW magic has no end! 
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, November 14, 2019 at 10:20:17 AM UTC-8, Mohammad wrote:

 Hi Josiah,
  Yes, this design is more similar to real pin board!
  I will add a new notice button as Mark indicated
  The issue with pins on single window has been resolved now

 --Mohammad

 On Thursday, November 14, 2019 at 9:29:58 PM UTC+3:30, @TiddlyTweeter 
 wrote:
>
> Ciao Mohammad
>
> The change to a more minimalist in-line edit is really good!
>
> [image: Annotation 2019-11-14 185704.jpg]
>
>
>
> Just a comment
> TT
>


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[tw5] Re: Pinboard plugin: pin your notices to a cork board create sticky notes and put on a bulletin board

Mohammad,

You could hide notes with has[draft.of]] from the pin board.

Regards
Tony

On Friday, November 15, 2019 at 3:16:10 PM UTC+11, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Thanks Mark!
>
>
> On Thursday, November 14, 2019 at 11:05:17 PM UTC+3:30, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> Wow -- that inline edit is great -- nearly seamless. We need this for all 
>> our tiddlers!
>>
>> On the corkboard, there is no menu to "View in window".
>>
>> Einstien sb. Einstein
>>
>
> Noted! 
>
>>
>> Wishlist: Ability to arrange notes.
>>
>
> I will see how this is possible! Right now I open one of the notice and 
> then using the tag pill I reorder the notices 
>
>>
>> At the dawn of the computer age, 3M used to make a sticky-note app that 
>> allowed people to pin and display images as on a corkboard. 
>> It was fun, but had no organizational tools. Combining that interface 
>> with TW organizing brings together the best of two world's.
>>
>
> TW magic has no end! 
>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, November 14, 2019 at 10:20:17 AM UTC-8, Mohammad wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Josiah,
>>>  Yes, this design is more similar to real pin board!
>>>  I will add a new notice button as Mark indicated
>>>  The issue with pins on single window has been resolved now
>>>
>>> --Mohammad
>>>
>>> On Thursday, November 14, 2019 at 9:29:58 PM UTC+3:30, @TiddlyTweeter 
>>> wrote:

 Ciao Mohammad

 The change to a more minimalist in-line edit is really good!

 [image: Annotation 2019-11-14 185704.jpg]



 Just a comment
 TT

>>>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Another project of mine

2019-11-14 Thread David Gifford

?

On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 9:50 PM TonyM  wrote:

> David,
>
> The automatic english translation seems great quality as well.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Friday, November 15, 2019 at 2:20:22 PM UTC+11, David Gifford wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone
>>
>> Since Saturday I have been working on this project. I am teaching an
>> intensive course on the book of Revelation all next week, and so I created
>> this TiddlyWiki to add the Spanish text and notes needed. I am not quite
>> done but I thought you might like to see what I did.
>>
>> http://giffmex.org/experiments/apocalipsis.exegesis.html
>>
>> I recommend clicking on the link at the top of the list (Apocalipsis
>> 1.1-8) and seeing what I did with tabs for 1.1-2
>>
>> Blessings, Dave
>>
>>
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[tw5] Re: Themes (or Good Virgin TiddlyWiki "Baseline HTMLs)

TT
 

> For reasons beyond me TiddlyWikians don't like showing off.
>

I think there are two reasons for this

   - TiddlyWikis often contain private information and develop over time
   -  It is actually Quite a lot of effort to polish a solution and publish 
   it. Although Mohamad has "crushed it".

I have a lot I can share but I need to make a living, I was wondering if I 
should write a post on this. I was wondering if I should open some crowd 
funding to seek some support. Perhaps smaller ones for specific outcomes, 
so I can justify TiddlyWiki work alongside other income work.

Others have asked for support through crowd funding and I would contribute 
to them If I had my own income at present.

Regards
Tony

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[tw5] Re: Pinboard plugin: pin your notices to a cork board create sticky notes and put on a bulletin board

Thanks Mark!


On Thursday, November 14, 2019 at 11:05:17 PM UTC+3:30, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Wow -- that inline edit is great -- nearly seamless. We need this for all 
> our tiddlers!
>
> On the corkboard, there is no menu to "View in window".
>
> Einstien sb. Einstein
>

Noted! 

>
> Wishlist: Ability to arrange notes.
>

I will see how this is possible! Right now I open one of the notice and 
then using the tag pill I reorder the notices 

>
> At the dawn of the computer age, 3M used to make a sticky-note app that 
> allowed people to pin and display images as on a corkboard. 
> It was fun, but had no organizational tools. Combining that interface with 
> TW organizing brings together the best of two world's.
>

TW magic has no end! 

>
>
>
> On Thursday, November 14, 2019 at 10:20:17 AM UTC-8, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Hi Josiah,
>>  Yes, this design is more similar to real pin board!
>>  I will add a new notice button as Mark indicated
>>  The issue with pins on single window has been resolved now
>>
>> --Mohammad
>>
>> On Thursday, November 14, 2019 at 9:29:58 PM UTC+3:30, @TiddlyTweeter 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ciao Mohammad
>>>
>>> The change to a more minimalist in-line edit is really good!
>>>
>>> [image: Annotation 2019-11-14 185704.jpg]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Just a comment
>>> TT
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Pinboard plugin: pin your notices to a cork board create sticky notes and put on a bulletin board

Thanks Julio.
Hope you could use it!

On Friday, November 15, 2019 at 5:53:28 AM UTC+3:30, Julio Peña wrote:
>
> Hello Mohammad and all,
>
> Wow...simply amazing!
> Keep those creative juices flowing!
>
> Best regards,
>
> Julio
>
> On Thursday, November 14, 2019 at 11:32:50 AM UTC-5, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Referring to 
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/tJfoXuMjo-U/VtITddxKAgAJ 
>>
>> This is a proof of concept to create a pinboard in Tiddlywiki (previous 
>> name sticky notes)
>>
>>
>> Pinboard Plugin
>> 14th November 2019 at 7:49pm
>>
>> Tiddlywiki5.1.21+
>>  
>> LicenseMIT
>>  
>> Release0.5.0
>>  
>> Statusin progress
>>
>> Pinboard
>>
>> This is a proof of concept for creating a pinboard 
>>  plugin
>>
>>- a pinboard contains some notices pinned on a board
>>- a notice is a tiddler tagged with pin
>>- a notice is removed from board if it is tagged with done
>>- a notice has a priority. The priority of a notice tiddler is set 
>>through adding a field entitled priority
>>- The priority filed value can only be chosen from the below value
>>   - red
>>   - blue
>>   - green
>>   - yellow
>>
>> A macro entitled pinboard-ui lists and displays all notices in a multi 
>> column layout
>>
>>- a notice shown by pinboard-ui has a toggle button (the colored pin) 
>>to tag the notice as done
>>- a notice shown by pinboard-ui has a link to the notice tiddler, on 
>>click it will be opened
>>- a notice shown by pinboard-ui has a folding editor, on click the 
>>entry can be edited
>>
>> See the demo below Pinboard Example 
>>  and Cork Board 
>> 
>>
>> Install
>>
>> Packaged plugin
>>
>>1. Drag and drop $:/plugins/kookma/pinboard 
>> into 
>>your wiki
>>2. Save and reload your wiki
>>
>> Client-Server installation (separate files)
>>
>>- For Node.js (server version) download the commander folder from 
>>source  folder and paste in 
>>your Tiddlywiki plugins folder
>>- For local installation put the commander folder into your local 
>>plugins folder under your wiki folder
>>
>> Code and demo
>>
>>- Demo: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Pinboard/
>>- Code: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Pinboard
>>
>>
>> [image: pinboard.png]
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Proof of concept: Sticky Notes in Tiddlywiki

Hi Tony!
Many thanks, I will try it and I think this is a simple solution!

--Mohammad

On Friday, November 15, 2019 at 4:39:13 AM UTC+3:30, TonyM wrote:
>
> Mohammad,
>
> Perhaps a little hack that is available could help. 
>
> See https://tiddlywiki.com/#HistoryMechanism notes below
>
> Perhaps the pinboard could use this tiddler to display on the background 
> when there are no tiddlers open, further work could open the pinboard 
> tiddler as a real tiddler as soon as one of the items is opened or provide 
> a drop down, popup or modal to access the pin board. Closing all tiddlers 
> would revert back to the pin board.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
> Empty Story
>
> To display content when the story is empty, create 
> $:/config/EmptyStoryMessage 
>  and enter 
> the desired contents. The following would show the GettingStarted 
>  tiddler when all others are 
> closed.
>
> {{GettingStarted||$:/core/ui/ViewTemplate}}
>
>
> On Friday, November 15, 2019 at 5:18:01 AM UTC+11, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Birthe,
>>  I renamed the plugin to Pinboard, see
>>
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/J1wMQUfdwHw/DUEEtXcAAQAJ
>>
>> So, the name is different from http://stickynotes.tiddlyspot.com/ 
>>
>> --Mohammad
>>
>> On Thursday, November 14, 2019 at 9:46:27 AM UTC+3:30, Birthe C wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Mohammad,
>>>
>>> Tony are right, you are beautifying tiddlywiki, and I do think that 
>>> matters.
>>>
>>> I wonder though, not that they are in anyway alike, but there is already 
>>> sticky notes: http://stickynotes.tiddlyspot.com/
>>> Searching TiddlyWiki toolmap will not be easier. (I do realise the 
>>> difficulties of finding new names)
>>>
>>>
>>> Birthe
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: Is there a way to detect whether a wiki is launched as permalink ... and modify the startup-behaviour in that case?

Jen

How is your Kanban view loading?, Is it in a tiddler in the default 
tiddlers? Are you using a particular plugin for kanban?

Here is a permalink for tiddlywiki.com 
https://tiddlywiki.com/#InfoMechanism . It will open only the specified 
tiddler by default.

More sophisticated startup actions than the default see Jeds Startup 
actions.

https://ooktech.com/jed/ExampleWikis/StartupActions/

Regards
Tony

On Friday, November 15, 2019 at 10:02:29 AM UTC+11, Jan wrote:
>
> Hi everybody. 
> My wiki is starting in a sort of Kanban-View by default. 
> Is it possible to disable the triggering of the ViewTemplate in the 
> startup-actions when the wiki started with a permalink? 
>
> Ahoi! Jan 
>

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[tw5] Re: Another project of mine

David,

The automatic english translation seems great quality as well.

Regards
Tony

On Friday, November 15, 2019 at 2:20:22 PM UTC+11, David Gifford wrote:
>
> Hi everyone
>
> Since Saturday I have been working on this project. I am teaching an 
> intensive course on the book of Revelation all next week, and so I created 
> this TiddlyWiki to add the Spanish text and notes needed. I am not quite 
> done but I thought you might like to see what I did.
>
> http://giffmex.org/experiments/apocalipsis.exegesis.html
>
> I recommend clicking on the link at the top of the list (Apocalipsis 
> 1.1-8) and seeing what I did with tabs for 1.1-2
>
> Blessings, Dave
>
>
>

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[tw5] Another project of mine

2019-11-14 Thread David Gifford

Hi everyone

Since Saturday I have been working on this project. I am teaching an 
intensive course on the book of Revelation all next week, and so I created 
this TiddlyWiki to add the Spanish text and notes needed. I am not quite 
done but I thought you might like to see what I did.

http://giffmex.org/experiments/apocalipsis.exegesis.html

I recommend clicking on the link at the top of the list (Apocalipsis 1.1-8) 
and seeing what I did with tabs for 1.1-2

Blessings, Dave


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[tw5] Re: Pinboard plugin: pin your notices to a cork board create sticky notes and put on a bulletin board

2019-11-14 Thread Julio Peña

Hello Mohammad and all,

Wpw...simply amazing!
Keep those creative juices flowing!

Best regards,

Julio

On Thursday, November 14, 2019 at 11:32:50 AM UTC-5, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Referring to 
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/tJfoXuMjo-U/VtITddxKAgAJ 
>
> This is a proof of concept to create a pinboard in Tiddlywiki (previous 
> name sticky notes)
>
>
> Pinboard Plugin
> 14th November 2019 at 7:49pm
>
> Tiddlywiki5.1.21+
>  
> LicenseMIT
>  
> Release0.5.0
>  
> Statusin progress
>
> Pinboard
>
> This is a proof of concept for creating a pinboard 
>  plugin
>
>- a pinboard contains some notices pinned on a board
>- a notice is a tiddler tagged with pin
>- a notice is removed from board if it is tagged with done
>- a notice has a priority. The priority of a notice tiddler is set 
>through adding a field entitled priority
>- The priority filed value can only be chosen from the below value
>   - red
>   - blue
>   - green
>   - yellow
>
> A macro entitled pinboard-ui lists and displays all notices in a multi 
> column layout
>
>- a notice shown by pinboard-ui has a toggle button (the colored pin) 
>to tag the notice as done
>- a notice shown by pinboard-ui has a link to the notice tiddler, on 
>click it will be opened
>- a notice shown by pinboard-ui has a folding editor, on click the 
>entry can be edited
>
> See the demo below Pinboard Example 
>  and Cork Board 
> 
>
> Install
>
> Packaged plugin
>
>1. Drag and drop $:/plugins/kookma/pinboard 
> into 
>your wiki
>2. Save and reload your wiki
>
> Client-Server installation (separate files)
>
>- For Node.js (server version) download the commander folder from 
>source  folder and paste in 
>your Tiddlywiki plugins folder
>- For local installation put the commander folder into your local 
>plugins folder under your wiki folder
>
> Code and demo
>
>- Demo: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Pinboard/
>- Code: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Pinboard
>
>
> [image: pinboard.png]
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Reordering Tags

2019-11-14 Thread mageykun

Aha, perfect!  That does indeed do it.

Thank you for sticking with this, you've been a great help.

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[tw5] Re: ICal's ".ics" File: Conversion of Standards-Based Data Objects to Tiddlers

Folks,

Although the devil is often in the detail, I think first, taking a 
strategic approach to tiddlifying such content and parsing the text field 
of a vcf or ics file into fields within the tiddler, is the smart approach 
(Leave data tiddlers aside, single tiddler solutions are better). When none 
unique keys occur add a number at the end of the fieldname. The thing is, a 
generic method of retaining all data but parsing it into a rich tiddler is 
all we need to do to convert such standards to tiddlywiki. Once we have 
such tiddlers it is then trivial to edit and change and regenerate such 
file formats to export using standard tiddlywiki features. This could also 
be developed to allow such rich tiddlers to drag and drop the item into 
another app. eg drag tiddler.ics to an email client to attach.

We could quickly build a library of text formats to rich tiddlers, and rich 
tiddlers to text versions (like the original file) and an export format.
The library will inform others how to build another converter so if one 
does not exist we can send them in the right direction quickly.

Its about developing the ecosystem, not the details of different formats, 
then participants with a direct interest in a particular file format do the 
work and share back.

Regards
Tony

On Thursday, November 14, 2019 at 9:39:30 AM UTC+11, Brian Litman wrote:
>
> Further to the theme of portability and privacy (especially if encrypted) 
> I wonder if there exists any historical work on a converter that will read 
> an *.ics calendar file and turn it into a "Date-Formatted" Tiddler?
>
> If I could code, I'd write it myself.
>
> TiddlyWiki is my new attempt to liberate myself from the tyranny of Apple, 
> Google and Microsoft-readable data (in the areas their AI knows to look!)
>
> Further encryption will really do the job "good enough".
>
> Any experienced users with ideas?
>
> Kindly,  >>> B <<<
>

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[tw5] Re: Proof of concept: Sticky Notes in Tiddlywiki

Mohammad,

Perhaps a little hack that is available could help. 

See https://tiddlywiki.com/#HistoryMechanism notes below

Perhaps the pinboard could use this tiddler to display on the background 
when there are no tiddlers open, further work could open the pinboard 
tiddler as a real tiddler as soon as one of the items is opened or provide 
a drop down, popup or modal to access the pin board. Closing all tiddlers 
would revert back to the pin board.

Regards
Tony

Empty Story

To display content when the story is empty, create 
$:/config/EmptyStoryMessage 
 and enter the 
desired contents. The following would show the GettingStarted 
 tiddler when all others are closed.

{{GettingStarted||$:/core/ui/ViewTemplate}}

On Friday, November 15, 2019 at 5:18:01 AM UTC+11, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Birthe,
>  I renamed the plugin to Pinboard, see
>
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/J1wMQUfdwHw/DUEEtXcAAQAJ
>
> So, the name is different from http://stickynotes.tiddlyspot.com/ 
>
> --Mohammad
>
> On Thursday, November 14, 2019 at 9:46:27 AM UTC+3:30, Birthe C wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mohammad,
>>
>> Tony are right, you are beautifying tiddlywiki, and I do think that 
>> matters.
>>
>> I wonder though, not that they are in anyway alike, but there is already 
>> sticky notes: http://stickynotes.tiddlyspot.com/
>> Searching TiddlyWiki toolmap will not be easier. (I do realise the 
>> difficulties of finding new names)
>>
>>
>> Birthe
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: A TIDDLYWIKI AS CONTACT MANAGER: Replacing VCF Cards with Tiddlers

Thank you.
Duly noted.
-

On Thursday, November 14, 2019 at 2:35:12 PM UTC, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Brian Litman wrote:
>>
>> Great.  Who sets said "standards" of support ?  How is that determined in 
>> the TWK world?
>>
>
> For the CORE, for the TW App (TW5), its mentored & led by Jeremy Ruston. 
> He has strong focus on backwards compatibility. 
> There are many participants who write, contribute and critique the core 
> there. Its rigorously compliant.
> To understand this you need to study the repository at ... 
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5
>
> For everything beyond that ... many add-ons and so on---its a Darwinian 
> System. 
> Folk announce stuff here in this group ... it has no standards as such, 
> but generally it works out pretty well.
>
> A MAJOR issue for a starter is FINDING things they need. 
>
> Often there is a solution but it lies buried somewhere in this group.
> Getting good at searching this group is a very good idea.
>
> Best wishes
> TT
>

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[tw5] Re: ICal's ".ics" File: Conversion of Standards-Based Data Objects to Tiddlers

First, I am absolutely new to this world.  But, the modularization of data 
has long been my Holy Grail.
Given the age of TWK, I suspected that experienced hands might have tackled 
common data representation problems long ago.
Of course, time and events are core to our lives.

I envisaged that maybe there was a handle .ics to (favorable Tiddler 
format) already created by a kind coder.

I should probably clam up until I learn about the various Data Tiddlers 
that seem to exist.

That said CONTACT representation (.vcf conversion) is of far greater 
gravity.  And TonyM has been most kind in giving direction there.
###


On Thursday, November 14, 2019 at 4:23:50 PM UTC, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Far be it to for me to naysay you. The wrap needs unwrapping. But I can't 
> see huge problems after that.
>
> You are right that it proliferates fields. 
>
> I think the question is WHAT would you need it in TW for? Is it worth 
> pursuing?
>
> TT, x
>
> On Thursday, 14 November 2019 16:36:38 UTC+1, PMario wrote:
>>
>> On Thursday, November 14, 2019 at 3:17:48 PM UTC+1, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>> ...
>>
>>> It may be someone has done it already for TW because its not a 
>>> fantastically difficult problem and I vaguely remember someone did, either 
>>> for this or, similar, .vcf cards. 
>>>
>>
>> >...its not a fantastically difficult problem...
>>
>> hihi ... It actually is. The very first definition "3.1. Content Lines" 
>> in the spec RFC5545  
>> already shows, that the format has nothing to do with a data-tiddler.
>>
>>For example, the line:
>>
>>  DESCRIPTION:This is a long description that exists on a long line.
>>
>>Can be represented as:
>>
>>  DESCRIPTION:This is a lo
>>   ng description
>>that exists on a long line.
>>
>>
>> The iCAL format is very complex, because it is extremely powerful. First 
>> version of the spec seems to be by Oracle from 2009. Updates: 5546 
>> , 6868 
>> , 7529 
>> , 7953 
>> , 7986 
>>  come from Apple Inc.
>>
>> Happily there seems to be a iCAL library from mozilla: 
>> https://github.com/mozilla-comm/ical.js that would allow parsing iCAL 
>> and vCARD data. 
>>
>> It is about 80kByte in size 
>> , but I don't think 
>> that there is any plugin yet. Docs can be found at: 
>> https://github.com/mozilla-comm/ical.js/wiki 
>> 
>>
>> have fun!
>> mario
>>
>>

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[tw5] Is there a way to detect whether a wiki is launched as permalink ... and modify the startup-behaviour in that case?

2019-11-14 Thread Jan


Hi everybody.
My wiki is starting in a sort of Kanban-View by default.
Is it possible to disable the triggering of the ViewTemplate in the 
startup-actions when the wiki started with a permalink?


Ahoi! Jan

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[tw5] Re: New plugin: Highlight searched text

2019-11-14 Thread bimlas

Dear all,

*About the "jump to next/previous match" feature*: Sorry, it takes some
more time to do: *basically I'm done, but it has compatibility issues* and
I don't like to release until everything works.

Javascript developers, please help: I tested the current version (demo is
here
,

*do not use it in real wikis, work in progress*, etc.) on an old browser
which is my phone's default (Samsung Browser 3.3 on Android), thus I think
it may be an issue for others too.

Whenever I want to jump between results, it always jumps to the first or
last result (just the opposite end of the search direction).

I am sure this is a problem with the code of the action-widget
,

or that the value of window.outerHeight (the height of the visible area) is
incorrect in my browser (I also tried to query with window.innerHeight) or
the value of this.previousMatch may not be stored.

Anyone familiar with Javascript (and specifically TiddlyWiki) programming
could look at which instruction is incompatible with old browsers? You may
have found a clear mistake in it that did not occur to me.

My other request would be to give it a try and play with it for a while to
find out more errors.

Please write your suggestions at
https://github.com/bimlas/tw5-highlight-searched-text/issues/1 or
contribute directly to the code by forking https://*gitlab*
.com/bimlas/tw5-highlight-searched-text/tree/find-in-page

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[tw5] Re: How to create multiple entries in a data tiddler?

Si,

Yes you are very close, I did not think about keeping the key value in the 
datatiddler json rather I would have used 
value={{{ [{myData!!lastkey}add[1]] }}} 
and set myData!!lastkey

No need to have to look into the data to get the last key

Its critical that the button that creates the data item in the dattatiddler 
is the same one that saves the last key

Psudo code

Calculate newkey number from datatidder!!lastkey
Button to create new record
   Action Create new record actions with key = newkey number
   Action Save newkey number in lastkey field datatidder!!lastkey
end button

To set the initial value for the key to 1 (when no entry exists) try this

<$set name=new-key value=value={{{ [{myData!!lastkey}add[1]] }}} 
emptyValue="1">

above pseudo code



Regards
Tony

On Friday, November 15, 2019 at 8:18:26 AM UTC+11, si wrote:
>
> Tony
>
> I'm not sure if I am understanding your suggestion correctly - do you mean 
> something like this?:
>
> <$edit-text tiddler="$:/state/enter-text" />
>
> <$button>
> <$action-setfield $tiddler=myData $index="Key Number" $value={{{ 
> [{myData##Key Number}add[1]] }}} />
> <$wikify name=title-value text="<> [{{myData##Key 
> Number}}]/Title" >
> ...
> <$action-setfield $tiddler=myData $index=<> $value=<
> >/>
> ...
> 
>
> Which gives the example result:
>
> {
> "Key Number": 3,
> "json test [1]": {
> "Title": "json test",
> "Text": "Here is some text.",
> "Date": "21:14, 14th November 2019"
> },
> "json test [2]": {
> "Title": "json test",
> "Text": "Blah",
> "Date": "21:14, 14th November 2019"
> }
> }
>
>
> In my example I added an extra button to save an initial value of 1 for 
> "Key Number". I can't think of a way to build this into my main button for 
> creating data entries (without an initial value the first entry will be 
> "json test []" then "json test [1]" etc...)?
>
> On Wednesday, November 13, 2019 at 11:32:54 PM UTC, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Mark perhaps each time you add a tiddler to the data tiddler you 
>> increment a key number and use it as the key, even in a field on the data 
>> tiddler
>>
>> If you delete a tiddler it will just be a missing key.
>>
>> If you use a button to add new tiddlers you can make use of the button to 
>> trigger an event to add one with the current operators (use triple curly 
>> braces) to the key/index number and set the key number field to the new 
>> value.
>>
>> Tony
>>
>> On Thursday, November 14, 2019 at 7:31:18 AM UTC+11, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> Joshua's site says that the improved "indexes" filter will return all 
>>> paths. So
>>>
>>> IF you have the same number of entries for each nested group, then you 
>>> can divide by that number and add one to get the next number in the 
>>> sequence:
>>>
>>> <$list filter="[[myData]indexes[]count[]divide[2]add[1]]" 
>>> variable="nextnum">
>>> ... do stuff
>>> 
>>>
>>> This example assumes 2 items per group.
>>>
>>> The problem with this approach is that you might, at some time, delete 
>>> an entry. So this approach only works if you never delete entries.
>>>
>>> A more advanced approach would require you to add a "number" field to 
>>> each nested group. If you had such an index, then you could write
>>> a macro that would run through the entries, find the highest value and 
>>> add one.
>>>
>>> hth
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, November 13, 2019 at 11:51:24 AM UTC-8, si wrote:
>>>
 Thanks for your help, that does the trick.

 In order to get a new numerical value for each level every time I press 
 the button I have used the MathyThing 
 
  
 plugin to increment the number in a field called "number". It's a little 
 tenuous though because it will be easy in my use case to accidentally 
 overwrite this number.

 Do you know of a better way to this? e.g. a way to count the number of 
 bottom level entries in the JSONTiddler and add 1 or something?

 I've attached an example of what I have done.

 <$edit-text tiddler="$:/state/enter-text"/>

 <$button>
 <$wikify name=title-value text="<> 
 [{{!!number}}]/Title" >
 <$wikify name=text-value text="<> [{{!!number}}]/Text" >
 <$wikify name=date-value text="<> [{{!!number}}]/Date" >
 <$action-increment $tiddler=<> $field=number 
 $initial="0" $increment="1"/>
 <$action-setfield $tiddler=myData $index=<> 
 $value=<>/>
 <$action-setfield $tiddler=myData $index=<> 
 $value={{$:/state/enter-text}}/>
 <$action-setfield $tiddler=myData $index=<> $value=<>/>
 
 
 
 Save
 

 Thanks again for your help.

 On Sunday, November 10, 2019 at 10:24:34 PM UTC, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Since you're writing to the same indexes on the same tiddler, it 
> overwrites them.
>
> There's no tools in TW for handling nested data tidders, but you can 
>

[tw5] Re: How to create multiple entries in a data tiddler?

2019-11-14 Thread si

Tony

I'm not sure if I am understanding your suggestion correctly - do you mean 
something like this?:

<$edit-text tiddler="$:/state/enter-text" />

<$button>
<$action-setfield $tiddler=myData $index="Key Number" $value={{{ 
[{myData##Key Number}add[1]] }}} />
<$wikify name=title-value text="<> [{{myData##Key 
Number}}]/Title" >
...
<$action-setfield $tiddler=myData $index=<> $value=<
>/>
...


Which gives the example result:

{
"Key Number": 3,
"json test [1]": {
"Title": "json test",
"Text": "Here is some text.",
"Date": "21:14, 14th November 2019"
},
"json test [2]": {
"Title": "json test",
"Text": "Blah",
"Date": "21:14, 14th November 2019"
}
}




On Wednesday, November 13, 2019 at 11:32:54 PM UTC, TonyM wrote:
>
> Mark perhaps each time you add a tiddler to the data tiddler you increment 
> a key number and use it as the key, even in a field on the data tiddler
>
> If you delete a tiddler it will just be a missing key.
>
> If you use a button to add new tiddlers you can make use of the button to 
> trigger an event to add one with the current operators (use triple curly 
> braces) to the key/index number and set the key number field to the new 
> value.
>
> Tony
>
> On Thursday, November 14, 2019 at 7:31:18 AM UTC+11, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> Joshua's site says that the improved "indexes" filter will return all 
>> paths. So
>>
>> IF you have the same number of entries for each nested group, then you 
>> can divide by that number and add one to get the next number in the 
>> sequence:
>>
>> <$list filter="[[myData]indexes[]count[]divide[2]add[1]]" 
>> variable="nextnum">
>> ... do stuff
>> 
>>
>> This example assumes 2 items per group.
>>
>> The problem with this approach is that you might, at some time, delete an 
>> entry. So this approach only works if you never delete entries.
>>
>> A more advanced approach would require you to add a "number" field to 
>> each nested group. If you had such an index, then you could write
>> a macro that would run through the entries, find the highest value and 
>> add one.
>>
>> hth
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 13, 2019 at 11:51:24 AM UTC-8, si wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for your help, that does the trick.
>>>
>>> In order to get a new numerical value for each level every time I press 
>>> the button I have used the MathyThing 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> plugin to increment the number in a field called "number". It's a little 
>>> tenuous though because it will be easy in my use case to accidentally 
>>> overwrite this number.
>>>
>>> Do you know of a better way to this? e.g. a way to count the number of 
>>> bottom level entries in the JSONTiddler and add 1 or something?
>>>
>>> I've attached an example of what I have done.
>>>
>>> <$edit-text tiddler="$:/state/enter-text"/>
>>>
>>> <$button>
>>> <$wikify name=title-value text="<> [{{!!number}}]/Title" 
>>> >
>>> <$wikify name=text-value text="<> [{{!!number}}]/Text" >
>>> <$wikify name=date-value text="<> [{{!!number}}]/Date" >
>>> <$action-increment $tiddler=<> $field=number 
>>> $initial="0" $increment="1"/>
>>> <$action-setfield $tiddler=myData $index=<> 
>>> $value=<>/>
>>> <$action-setfield $tiddler=myData $index=<> 
>>> $value={{$:/state/enter-text}}/>
>>> <$action-setfield $tiddler=myData $index=<> $value=<>/>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Save
>>> 
>>>
>>> Thanks again for your help.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, November 10, 2019 at 10:24:34 PM UTC, Mark S. wrote:

 Since you're writing to the same indexes on the same tiddler, it 
 overwrites them.

 There's no tools in TW for handling nested data tidders, but you can use

 Joshua Fontany's JSON Mangler:

 https://joshuafontany.github.io/TW5-JsonMangler/

 Then you can make $index=level1/Title, $index=level2/Title, etc. and 
 create nested data tiddlers.

 Good luck!



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[tw5] Re: Pinboard plugin: pin your notices to a cork board create sticky notes and put on a bulletin board

2019-11-14 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki

Wow -- that inline edit is great -- nearly seamless. We need this for all 
our tiddlers!

On the corkboard, there is no menu to "View in window".

Einstien sb. Einstein

Wishlist: Ability to arrange notes.

At the dawn of the computer age, 3M used to make a sticky-note app that 
allowed people to pin and display images as on a corkboard. 
It was fun, but had no organizational tools. Combining that interface with 
TW organizing brings together the best of two world's.

On Thursday, November 14, 2019 at 10:20:17 AM UTC-8, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Hi Josiah,
>  Yes, this design is more similar to real pin board!
>  I will add a new notice button as Mark indicated
>  The issue with pins on single window has been resolved now
>
> --Mohammad
>
> On Thursday, November 14, 2019 at 9:29:58 PM UTC+3:30, @TiddlyTweeter 
> wrote:
>>
>> Ciao Mohammad
>>
>> The change to a more minimalist in-line edit is really good!
>>
>> [image: Annotation 2019-11-14 185704.jpg]
>>
>>
>>
>> Just a comment
>> TT
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Reordering Tags

2019-11-14 Thread Eric Shulman

On Thursday, November 14, 2019 at 9:34:49 AM UTC-8, mageykun wrote:
>
> Ooh. It's so close, but I found an edge case.
>
> If the contents of [[FavoriteTags]] are not in alphabetical order, it 
> forces them to be so in the tag display.
>

I think I've got a solution!  See if this makes sense to you:

1) Create [[ATestTiddler]], tagged with "A B Bar Baz C foo"
2) Copy-and-paste the following experiment into the body of [[ATestTiddler]]
''THIS IS THE STANDARD TAG DISPLAY:'' All tags, sorted alphabetically
``<$list filter="[all[current]tags[]] +[sort[title]]" 
template="$:/core/ui/TagTemplate" storyview="pop"/>``
<$list filter="[all[current]tags[]] +[sort[title]]" 
template="$:/core/ui/TagTemplate" storyview="pop"/>

''ALL FAVORITE TAGS:'' defined in text field of FavoriteTags tiddler
``<$list filter="[enlist{FavoriteTags}]" template="$:/core/ui/TagTemplate" 
storyview="pop"/>``
<$list filter="[enlist{FavoriteTags}]" template="$:/core/ui/TagTemplate" 
storyview="pop"/>

''FAVORITE TAGS NOT TAGGING THIS TIDDLER:''
``<$list filter="[enlist{FavoriteTags}] -[all[current]tags[]]" 
template="$:/core/ui/TagTemplate" storyview="pop"/>``
<$list filter="[enlist{FavoriteTags}] -[all[current]tags[]]" 
template="$:/core/ui/TagTemplate" storyview="pop"/>

''THIS IS PART ONE:'' FavoriteTags excluding those not tagging this 
tiddler
``<$set name="nottagged" filter="[enlist{FavoriteTags}] 
-[all[current]tags[]]">
<$list filter="[enlist{FavoriteTags}] -[enlist]" 
template="$:/core/ui/TagTemplate" storyview="pop"/>
``
<$set name="nottagged" filter="[enlist{FavoriteTags}] 
-[all[current]tags[]]">
<$list filter="[enlist{FavoriteTags}] -[enlist]" 
template="$:/core/ui/TagTemplate" storyview="pop"/>


''THIS IS PART TWO:'' All Tags excluding FavoriteTags, sorted 
alphabetically
``<$list filter="[all[current]tags[]] -[enlist{FavoriteTags}] 
+[sort[title]]" template="$:/core/ui/TagTemplate" storyview="pop"/>``
<$list filter="[all[current]tags[]] -[enlist{FavoriteTags}] +[sort[title]]" 
template="$:/core/ui/TagTemplate" storyview="pop"/>

''THIS IS THE DESIRED RESULT:'' Part one followed by part two
``<$set name="nottagged" filter="[enlist{FavoriteTags}] 
-[all[current]tags[]]">
<$list filter="[enlist{FavoriteTags}] -[enlist]" 
template="$:/core/ui/TagTemplate" storyview="pop"/>
<$list filter="[all[current]tags[]] -[enlist{FavoriteTags}] +[sort[title]]" 
template="$:/core/ui/TagTemplate" storyview="pop"/>
``
<$set name="nottagged" filter="[enlist{FavoriteTags}] 
-[all[current]tags[]]">
<$list filter="[enlist{FavoriteTags}] -[enlist]" 
template="$:/core/ui/TagTemplate" storyview="pop"/>
<$list filter="[all[current]tags[]] -[enlist{FavoriteTags}] +[sort[title]]" 
template="$:/core/ui/TagTemplate" storyview="pop"/>


To test:
3) Check the results shown in [[ATestTiddler]] are as expected... i.e., 
that the last experimental output is the desired tag display.

To implement:
4) Paste the final code into $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/tags:
<$reveal type="nomatch" stateTitle=<> text="hide" tag="div" 
retain="yes" animate="yes">

   <$set name="nottagged" filter="[enlist{FavoriteTags}] 
-[all[current]tags[]]">
   <$list filter="[enlist{FavoriteTags}] -[enlist]" 
template="$:/core/ui/TagTemplate" storyview="pop"/>
   <$list filter="[all[current]tags[]] -[enlist{FavoriteTags}] 
+[sort[title]]" template="$:/core/ui/TagTemplate" storyview="pop"/>
   



Let me know how it goes...

-e

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[tw5] Re: New plugin: Highlight searched text

Ciao bimlas

Very useful tool!

I notice that Mark.js has powerful search filtering, including regular 
expressions (https://markjs.io/configurator.html).

Not sure how difficult it would be to include some of those?

Just thoughts. As is the tool is useful! Tx!

Best wishes
TT

On Monday, 11 November 2019 22:46:22 UTC+1, bimlas wrote:
>
> Nothing special, the title says the only one feature of the plugin: for 
> example, type search text in the standard search and select one of the 
> results, or just click outside of it (to hide the popup list): each of the 
> words you search for will be highlighted separately in the text of the 
> tiddlers.
>
> https://bimlas.gitlab.io/tw5-highlight-searched-text
>
> Ideas and suggestions are welcome.
>

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[tw5] Re: Pinboard plugin: pin your notices to a cork board create sticky notes and put on a bulletin board

Hi Josiah,
 Yes, this design is more similar to real pin board!
 I will add a new notice button as Mark indicated
 The issue with pins on single window has been resolved now

--Mohammad

On Thursday, November 14, 2019 at 9:29:58 PM UTC+3:30, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Ciao Mohammad
>
> The change to a more minimalist in-line edit is really good!
>
> [image: Annotation 2019-11-14 185704.jpg]
>
>
>
> Just a comment
> TT
>

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[tw5] Re: Proof of concept: Sticky Notes in Tiddlywiki

Birthe,
 I renamed the plugin to Pinboard, see

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/J1wMQUfdwHw/DUEEtXcAAQAJ

So, the name is different from http://stickynotes.tiddlyspot.com/ 

--Mohammad

On Thursday, November 14, 2019 at 9:46:27 AM UTC+3:30, Birthe C wrote:
>
> Hi Mohammad,
>
> Tony are right, you are beautifying tiddlywiki, and I do think that 
> matters.
>
> I wonder though, not that they are in anyway alike, but there is already 
> sticky notes: http://stickynotes.tiddlyspot.com/
> Searching TiddlyWiki toolmap will not be easier. (I do realise the 
> difficulties of finding new names)
>
>
> Birthe
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Proof of concept: Sticky Notes in Tiddlywiki

I updated the plugin with the new name Pinboard

I addressed this comment partially
A tiddler called Cord Board is added
Cork board has no title-bar and can occupy the whole window!

--Mohammad

On Thursday, November 14, 2019 at 6:19:33 PM UTC+3:30, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> I agree is not so apparent how to do it.
>
> I wonder if a pure CSS solution is possible without having to hack 
> templates?
>
> I guess the problem is styling via tag does not change the outer wrappers? 
> Right?
>
> However, via button, on the cork board only it should be possible  to 
> change the CSS for the containing divs without further hacks?
>
> A thought
> TT 
>
> Mohammad wrote:
>>
>>
>> This is a good idea! Have the whole story river as cork-board! but seems 
>> a little difficult!
>> We need to hack the ViewTemplate for tiddler tagged task! 
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Reordering Tags

2019-11-14 Thread mageykun

Ooh. It's so close, but I found an edge case.

If the contents of [[FavoriteTags]] are not in alphabetical order, it forces 
them to be so in the tag display.

So for instance, if the contents of [[FavoriteTags]] is:
"Foo Baz Bar D"

Then the tag display for [[ATestTiddler]] is
"Foo Bar Baz A B C"
NOT
"Foo Baz Bar A B C"
as desired. 

So this lets you put a certain group of tags ahead of all other tags, but 
doesn't let you define an arbitrarily order for that group.  Each sub-group of 
tags are still alphabetical.

Not sure what the easy fix is there- instead of the [reverse[]], could that 
list contain a sort based on [[FavoriteTags]]?

The clunkier solution could be to break [[FavoriteTags]] up into multiple 
Tiddlers (start a new Tiddler every time the next tag isn't alphabetical), and 
make the process iterative (so you filter out and list your "first class" tags 
in alphabetical order, then the "second class" tags, and so on, until finally 
listed the un-favored tags last).

Thanks again for the assistance so far bridging the knowledge gap, it's much 
appreciated.

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[tw5] Pinboard plugin: pin your notices to a cork board create sticky notes and put on a bulletin board

Referring 
to https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/tJfoXuMjo-U/VtITddxKAgAJ 

This is a proof of concept to create a pinboard in Tiddlywiki (previous 
name sticky notes)


Pinboard Plugin
14th November 2019 at 7:49pm

Tiddlywiki5.1.21+
 
LicenseMIT
 
Release0.5.0
 
Statusin progress

Pinboard

This is a proof of concept for creating a pinboard 
 plugin

   - a pinboard contains some notices pinned on a board
   - a notice is a tiddler tagged with pin
   - a notice is removed from board if it is tagged with done
   - a notice has a priority. The priority of a notice tiddler is set 
   through adding a field entitled priority
   - The priority filed value can only be chosen from the below value
  - red
  - blue
  - green
  - yellow
   
A macro entitled pinboard-ui lists and displays all notices in a multi 
column layout

   - a notice shown by pinboard-ui has a toggle button (the colored pin) to 
   tag the notice as done
   - a notice shown by pinboard-ui has a link to the notice tiddler, on 
   click it will be opened
   - a notice shown by pinboard-ui has a folding editor, on click the entry 
   can be edited

See the demo below Pinboard Example 
 and Cork Board 


Install

Packaged plugin
   
   1. Drag and drop $:/plugins/kookma/pinboard 
    into your 
   wiki
   2. Save and reload your wiki

Client-Server installation (separate files)
   
   - For Node.js (server version) download the commander folder from source 
    folder and paste in your 
   Tiddlywiki plugins folder
   - For local installation put the commander folder into your local 
   plugins folder under your wiki folder

Code and demo
   
   - Demo: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Pinboard/
   - Code: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Pinboard


[image: pinboard.png]

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[tw5] Re: Proof of concept: Sticky Notes in Tiddlywiki

I have started a new thread as the name changed from

Sticky Notes to Pinboard.

I will follow these comments here

On Thursday, November 14, 2019 at 6:19:33 PM UTC+3:30, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> I agree is not so apparent how to do it.
>
> I wonder if a pure CSS solution is possible without having to hack 
> templates?
>
> I guess the problem is styling via tag does not change the outer wrappers? 
> Right?
>
> However, via button, on the cork board only it should be possible  to 
> change the CSS for the containing divs without further hacks?
>
> A thought
> TT 
>
> Mohammad wrote:
>>
>>
>> This is a good idea! Have the whole story river as cork-board! but seems 
>> a little difficult!
>> We need to hack the ViewTemplate for tiddler tagged task! 
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: ICal's ".ics" File: Conversion of Standards-Based Data Objects to Tiddlers

Far be it to for me to naysay you. The wrap needs unwrapping. But I can't 
see huge problems after that.

You are right that it proliferates fields. 

I think the question is WHAT would you need it TW for? Is it worth pursuing?

TT, x

On Thursday, 14 November 2019 16:36:38 UTC+1, PMario wrote:
>
> On Thursday, November 14, 2019 at 3:17:48 PM UTC+1, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
> ...
>
>> It may be someone has done it already for TW because its not a 
>> fantastically difficult problem and I vaguely remember someone did, either 
>> for this or, similar, .vcf cards. 
>>
>
> >...its not a fantastically difficult problem...
>
> hihi ... It actually is. The very first definition "3.1. Content Lines" in 
> the spec RFC5545  
> already shows, that the format has nothing to do with a data-tiddler.
>
>For example, the line:
>
>  DESCRIPTION:This is a long description that exists on a long line.
>
>Can be represented as:
>
>  DESCRIPTION:This is a lo
>   ng description
>that exists on a long line.
>
>
> The iCAL format is very complex, because it is extremely powerful. First 
> version of the spec seems to be by Oracle from 2009. Updates: 5546 
> , 6868 
> , 7529 
> , 7953 
> , 7986 
>  come from Apple Inc.
>
> Happily there seems to be a iCAL library from mozilla: 
> https://github.com/mozilla-comm/ical.js that would allow parsing iCAL and 
> vCARD data. 
>
> It is about 80kByte in size 
> , but I don't think 
> that there is any plugin yet. Docs can be found at: 
> https://github.com/mozilla-comm/ical.js/wiki 
> 
>
> have fun!
> mario
>
>

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[tw5] Re: ICal's ".ics" File: Conversion of Standards-Based Data Objects to Tiddlers

2019-11-14 Thread PMario

On Thursday, November 14, 2019 at 3:17:48 PM UTC+1, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
...

> It may be someone has done it already for TW because its not a 
> fantastically difficult problem and I vaguely remember someone did, either 
> for this or, similar, .vcf cards. 
>

>...its not a fantastically difficult problem...

hihi ... It actually is. The very first definition "3.1. Content Lines" in 
the spec RFC5545  already 
shows, that the format has nothing to do with a data-tiddler.

   For example, the line:

 DESCRIPTION:This is a long description that exists on a long line.

   Can be represented as:

 DESCRIPTION:This is a lo
  ng description
   that exists on a long line.

The iCAL format is very complex, because it is extremely powerful. First 
version of the spec seems to be by Oracle from 2009. Updates: 5546 
, 6868 
, 7529 
, 7953 
, 7986 
 come from Apple Inc.

Happily there seems to be a iCAL library from mozilla: 
https://github.com/mozilla-comm/ical.js that would allow parsing iCAL and 
vCARD data. 

It is about 80kByte in size 
, but I don't think that 
there is any plugin yet. Docs can be found at: 
https://github.com/mozilla-comm/ical.js/wiki

have fun!
mario

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[tw5] Re: Themes (or Good Virgin TiddlyWiki "Baseline HTMLs)

Short answer, NO.

Long answer, good designs and innovation on design is there. 
But THE problem a starter faces is--that you have to spend time figuring 
out how to figure out--where the good stuff is.

We desperately need a SHOWCASE of finished wiki. But so far we don't have a 
consolidated one.

No need to get depressed though, it just takes a short-time to begin to 
find stuff that is what you need to see.

For reasons beyond me TiddlyWikians don't like showing off.

Best wishes
TT

On Wednesday, 13 November 2019 23:45:12 UTC+1, Brian Litman wrote:
>
> Does there exist a *working* repository of forum members nice works of 
> TiddlyWiki's of various design and functionality?
>
> Last link I tried (can't recall now) resolved to dead end.
>
> As Wordpress authors proudly serve up their creative output - why not 
> experienced T-Wikians??  ###
>

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[tw5] Re: A TIDDLYWIKI AS CONTACT MANAGER: Replacing VCF Cards with Tiddlers

TonyM

Nice find

A starting point at least.

I vaguely think someone else did one too ... but can't find it as yet.

TT

On Wednesday, 13 November 2019 01:42:46 UTC+1, TonyM wrote:
>
> Brian/Scott,
>
> Yes the only hit on vcf is https://tid.li/tw5/hacks.html
> It also converts them to QRcodes
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Wednesday, November 13, 2019 at 11:08:29 AM UTC+11, Scott Kingery wrote:
>>
>> There might be something in the toolmap. Search for vcf  
>> https://dynalist.io/d/zUP-nIWu2FFoXH-oM7L7d9DM
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 12, 2019 at 3:55:14 PM UTC-8, Brian Litman wrote:
>>>
>>> Am new to the Tiddlecosm.
>>>
>>> I find it interesting to use a TiddlyWiki in my mobile, in place of the 
>>> inplace spyware of iOS and Android.
>>>
>>> I don't want my contacts to go to any cloud.  Local control only.
>>>
>>> Ergo, I wonder if, in the glorius history of TiddlyWiki there exists 
>>> some VCF Card to Tiddler import.
>>>
>>> Bonus: Android dialer will recognise the international prefixed "+nnn" 
>>> tel number.
>>>
>>> Anyone have thoughts?
>>>
>>> Thx!
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Proof of concept: Sticky Notes in Tiddlywiki

I agree is not so apparent how to do it.

I wonder if a pure CSS solution is possible without having to hack 
templates?

I guess the problem is styling via tag does not change the outer wrappers? 
Right?

However, via button, on the cork board only it should be possible  to 
change the CSS for the containing divs without further hacks?

A thought
TT 

Mohammad wrote:
>
>
> This is a good idea! Have the whole story river as cork-board! but seems a 
> little difficult!
> We need to hack the ViewTemplate for tiddler tagged task! 
>

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[tw5] Re: A TIDDLYWIKI AS CONTACT MANAGER: Replacing VCF Cards with Tiddlers

Brian Litman wrote:
>
> Great.  Who sets said "standards" of support ?  How is that determined in 
> the TWK world?
>

For the CORE, for the TW App (TW5), its mentored & led by Jeremy Ruston. He 
has strong focus on backwards compatibility. 
There are many participants who write, contribute and critique the core 
there. Its rigorously compliant.
To understand this you need to study the repository at ... 
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5

For everything beyond that ... many add-ons and so on---its a Darwinian 
System. 
Folk announce stuff here in this group ... it has no standards as such, but 
generally it works out pretty well.

A MAJOR issue for a starter is FINDING things they need. 

Often there is a solution but it lies buried somewhere in this group.
Getting good at searching this group is a very good idea.

Best wishes
TT



> On Wednesday, November 13, 2019 at 12:17:38 AM UTC, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Brian,
>>
>> This is a good idea and to be able to import or drop common address files 
>> like vcf onto tiddlywiki would be great. 
>>
>> Any vcf file can be dropped on Tiddlywiki and here is an example content
>>
>> Muscio_Anthony.vcf
>> BEGIN:VCARD
>> VERSION:3.0
>> PRODID:-//Apple Inc.//iPhone OS 9.3.2//EN
>> N:Muscio;Anthony;;;
>> FN: Anthony  Muscio 
>> ORG:People\, Systems and Things;
>> EMAIL;type=INTERNET;type=WORK;type=pref:am@secured
>> EMAIL;type=INTERNET:anthony.muscio@secured
>> item1.URL;type=pref:www.psat.com.au
>> item1.X-ABLabel:_$!!$_
>> item2.URL:thp.psat.com.au
>> item2.X-ABLabel:_$!!$_
>> END:VCARD
>>
>> Until you get to EMAIL the format use could be interpreted as a Data 
>> Dictionary Tiddler 
>>
>> All we need is a method to convert or interrogate vcf and similar 
>> "tiddlers", I already have a way to intervene in the import process. 
>> however by live interrogation of vcf format tiddlers, they would remain 
>> available in the original format for further distribution. 
>>
>> perhaps an extension to the data tiddler standards to allow the first of 
>> the following characters to delimit the key would be an answer ":" current, 
>> ";" and ".". 
>>
>> When I dropped the above vcf file on my wiki it did set the tiddler type 
>> to text/x-vcard so perhaps we can add support for this "mime type".
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 13, 2019 at 10:55:14 AM UTC+11, Brian Litman wrote:
>>>
>>> Am new to the Tiddlecosm.
>>>
>>> I find it interesting to use a TiddlyWiki in my mobile, in place of the 
>>> inplace spyware of iOS and Android.
>>>
>>> I don't want my contacts to go to any cloud.  Local control only.
>>>
>>> Ergo, I wonder if, in the glorius history of TiddlyWiki there exists 
>>> some VCF Card to Tiddler import.
>>>
>>> Bonus: Android dialer will recognise the international prefixed "+nnn" 
>>> tel number.
>>>
>>> Anyone have thoughts?
>>>
>>> Thx!
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: A TIDDLYWIKI AS CONTACT MANAGER: Replacing VCF Cards with Tiddlers

2019-11-14 Thread Eric Shulman

On Thursday, November 14, 2019 at 5:02:32 AM UTC-8, Brian Litman wrote:
>
> Great.  Who sets said "standards" of support ?  How is that determined in 
> the TWK world?
>

TiddlyWiki (v5.0 and above) is abbreviated as "TW" or "TW5", not "TWK".

TiddlyWiki Classic (v2.x and below) is abbreviated as "TWC".

-e
Eric Shulman
TiddlyTools: "Small Tools for Big Ideas!" (tm) http://tiddlytools.github.io/
InsideTiddlyWiki: The Missing 
Manuals http://insidetiddlywiki.tiddlyspot.com/

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[tw5] Re: Proof of concept: Sticky Notes in Tiddlywiki



On Thursday, November 14, 2019 at 4:14:17 PM UTC+3:30, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> One issue is if you "open in new window" the top pins get truncated ...
>
> [image: Annotation 2019-11-14 134045.jpg]
>
>
> In any case, it might be useful to have a option to "fill screen" --- i.e 
> rather than open a new window for a pin-board, you completely fill the 
> current viewport.
>

This is a good idea! Have the whole story river as cork-board! but seems a 
little difficult!
We need to hack the ViewTemplate for tiddler tagged task! 
 

>
> Just thoughts
> TT
>

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[tw5] Re: ICal's ".ics" File: Conversion of Standards-Based Data Objects to Tiddlers

As far as I understand it .ics /iCalendar is formatted like this ...

BEGIN:VCALENDAR
VERSION:2.0
PRODID:-//hacksw/handcal//NONSGML v1.0//EN
BEGIN:VEVENT
UID:u...@example.com
DTSTAMP:19970714T17Z
ORGANIZER;CN=John Doe:MAILTO:john@example.com
DTSTART:19970714T17Z
DTEND:19970715T035959Z
SUMMARY:Bastille Day Party
GEO:48.85299;2.36885
END:VEVENT
END:VCALENDAR


See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICalendar

That structure looks the same as a simple TiddlyWiki Data Dictionary 
(ContentType:  application/x-tiddler-dictionary ) (see 
https://tiddlywiki.com/#DataTiddlers:DataTiddlers%20DictionaryTiddlers)

It would be a matter of creating a macro to read the data and assemble it 
in the layout you wanted. And the date fields could be read 
(DTSTAMP,DTSTART,DTEND) and converted to TW style.

.ics data can be very rich so part of issue would be determining the 
"fields" you needed.

It may be someone has done it already for TW because its not a 
fantastically difficult problem and I vaguely remember someone did, either 
for this or, similar, .vcf cards. 

But a question remains about the utility in TW. I mean you get the data. So 
what you gonna DO with it? :-)

Best wishes
TT 


On Wednesday, 13 November 2019 23:39:30 UTC+1, Brian Litman wrote:
>
> Further to the theme of portability and privacy (especially if encrypted) 
> I wonder if there exists any historical work on a converter that will read 
> an *.ics calendar file and turn it into a "Date-Formatted" Tiddler?
>
> If I could code, I'd write it myself.
>
> TiddlyWiki is my new attempt to liberate myself from the tyranny of Apple, 
> Google and Microsoft-readable data (in the areas their AI knows to look!)
>
> Further encryption will really do the job "good enough".
>
> Any experienced users with ideas?
>
> Kindly,  >>> B <<<
>

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[tw5] Re: Themes (or Good Virgin TiddlyWiki "Baseline HTMLs)

Thanks for that direction, Tony!

On Wednesday, November 13, 2019 at 10:59:53 PM UTC, TonyM wrote:
>
> Brian,
>
> A lot of designers have done this. Many are published under tiddlyspot and 
> many in their own domain addresses often as demos or editions. 
>
> Start with a search at tiddlywiki.com then a search in the tiddlywiki 
> forum. 
>
> The truth is we could revisit having a central index however when looking 
> for "various design and functionality" it may be available in plugins 
> rather than complete wikis since a lot of tiddlywiki solutions are plugins 
> or add ons. 
>
> Leading sources of what you are asking for are the Toolmap 
>  and Mohammad's work of 
> late eg Commander and Shiraz
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Thursday, November 14, 2019 at 9:45:12 AM UTC+11, Brian Litman wrote:
>>
>> Does there exist a *working* repository of forum members nice works of 
>> TiddlyWiki's of various design and functionality?
>>
>> Last link I tried (can't recall now) resolved to dead end.
>>
>> As Wordpress authors proudly serve up their creative output - why not 
>> experienced T-Wikians??  ###
>>
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[tw5] Re: ICal's ".ics" File: Conversion of Standards-Based Data Objects to Tiddlers

As long as one can at least download the data of the "Surveillance 
Capitalists" in a universal form, that is a good start.

##B

On Wednesday, November 13, 2019 at 11:15:13 PM UTC, TonyM wrote:
>
> Brian,
>
> My comments on VCF largely apply to ics as well. From Google Calendar I 
> exported a zip of all my calendar files. Dropping an ics on tiddlywik 
> imports it as text. It looks like a data dictionary tiddler however it 
> re-uses the same key names for each calendar entry. 
>
> ics files can be whole calendars not simply single events. 
>
> I would not be surprised if there is a way to convert ics files to csv 
> files and import those as tiddlers. 
>
> I have no doubt you can be liberated from the tyranny of Apple, Google and 
> Microsoft with tiddlywiki but a little work (by you and the community) may 
> need to be done, to remain interactive with them.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Thursday, November 14, 2019 at 9:39:30 AM UTC+11, Brian Litman wrote:
>>
>> Further to the theme of portability and privacy (especially if encrypted) 
>> I wonder if there exists any historical work on a converter that will read 
>> an *.ics calendar file and turn it into a "Date-Formatted" Tiddler?
>>
>> If I could code, I'd write it myself.
>>
>> TiddlyWiki is my new attempt to liberate myself from the tyranny of 
>> Apple, Google and Microsoft-readable data (in the areas their AI knows to 
>> look!)
>>
>> Further encryption will really do the job "good enough".
>>
>> Any experienced users with ideas?
>>
>> Kindly,  >>> B <<<
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: A TIDDLYWIKI AS CONTACT MANAGER: Replacing VCF Cards with Tiddlers

Great.  Who sets said "standards" of support ?  How is that determined in 
the TWK world?

On Wednesday, November 13, 2019 at 12:17:38 AM UTC, TonyM wrote:
>
> Brian,
>
> This is a good idea and to be able to import or drop common address files 
> like vcf onto tiddlywiki would be great. 
>
> Any vcf file can be dropped on Tiddlywiki and here is an example content
>
> Muscio_Anthony.vcf
> BEGIN:VCARD
> VERSION:3.0
> PRODID:-//Apple Inc.//iPhone OS 9.3.2//EN
> N:Muscio;Anthony;;;
> FN: Anthony  Muscio 
> ORG:People\, Systems and Things;
> EMAIL;type=INTERNET;type=WORK;type=pref:am@secured
> EMAIL;type=INTERNET:anthony.muscio@secured
> item1.URL;type=pref:www.psat.com.au
> item1.X-ABLabel:_$!!$_
> item2.URL:thp.psat.com.au
> item2.X-ABLabel:_$!!$_
> END:VCARD
>
> Until you get to EMAIL the format use could be interpreted as a Data 
> Dictionary Tiddler 
>
> All we need is a method to convert or interrogate vcf and similar 
> "tiddlers", I already have a way to intervene in the import process. 
> however by live interrogation of vcf format tiddlers, they would remain 
> available in the original format for further distribution. 
>
> perhaps an extension to the data tiddler standards to allow the first of 
> the following characters to delimit the key would be an answer ":" current, 
> ";" and ".". 
>
> When I dropped the above vcf file on my wiki it did set the tiddler type 
> to text/x-vcard so perhaps we can add support for this "mime type".
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, November 13, 2019 at 10:55:14 AM UTC+11, Brian Litman wrote:
>>
>> Am new to the Tiddlecosm.
>>
>> I find it interesting to use a TiddlyWiki in my mobile, in place of the 
>> inplace spyware of iOS and Android.
>>
>> I don't want my contacts to go to any cloud.  Local control only.
>>
>> Ergo, I wonder if, in the glorius history of TiddlyWiki there exists some 
>> VCF Card to Tiddler import.
>>
>> Bonus: Android dialer will recognise the international prefixed "+nnn" 
>> tel number.
>>
>> Anyone have thoughts?
>>
>> Thx!
>>
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Proof of concepts: Sticky Notes in Tiddlywiki

2019-11-14 Thread Mohammad Rahmani

This has been corrected. I will push an update soon.

The issue is partly because of vanilla theme.



On Thu, Nov 14, 2019, 4:14 PM @TiddlyTweeter 
wrote:

> One issue is if you "open in new window" the top pins get truncated ...
>
> [image: Annotation 2019-11-14 134045.jpg]
>
>
> In any case, it might be useful to have a option to "fill screen" --- i.e
> rather than open a new window for a pin-board, you completely fill the
> current viewport.
>
> Just thoughts
> TT
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Re: [tw5] Re: Proof of concept: Sticky Notes in Tiddlywiki

2019-11-14 Thread Mohammad Rahmani

Hi Birthe

Thanks for your words

I have seen the sticky notes you addressed.

I think the current plugin is different from what you mentioned.

But as you said I did not find better name

Mohammad



On Thu, Nov 14, 2019, 9:46 AM Birthe C  wrote:

> Hi Mohammad,
>
> Tony are right, you are beautifying tiddlywiki, and I do think that
> matters.
>
> I wonder though, not that they are in anyway alike, but there is already
> sticky notes: http://stickynotes.tiddlyspot.com/
> Searching TiddlyWiki toolmap will not be easier. (I do realise the
> difficulties of finding new names)
>
>
> Birthe
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[tw5] Re: Proof of concept: Sticky Notes in Tiddlywiki

One issue is if you "open in new window" the top pins get truncated ...

[image: Annotation 2019-11-14 134045.jpg]


In any case, it might be useful to have a option to "fill screen" --- i.e 
rather than open a new window for a pin-board, you completely fill the 
current viewport.

Just thoughts
TT

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Re: [tw5] Re: Proof of concept: Sticky Notes in Tiddlywiki

2019-11-14 Thread Mohammad Rahmani

Hi Josiah

Many thanks for your comments. In summary

- pin can toggle task/done tag
- hide extra info, elements

Hopefully I will modify it to address some of these items

Mohammad

On Thu, Nov 14, 2019, 3:50 PM @TiddlyTweeter 
wrote:

> Ciao Mohammad
>
> As others have said its nice to see colorful functional designs. They are
> suggestive.
>
> Your stickers share some features with other column approaches like ...
>
>  BTC's muuri -- https://burningtreec.github.io/tw5-muuri-view/
>
>
> Riz's Tekan -- https://ibnishak.github.io/Tesseract/projects/tekan/
>
>
>  ... though your design is simpler both, I think, are worth looking at on
> visual design.
>
> Some thoughts on your stickies ...
>
> -- Worth thinking about is NOT showing any "cruft" on a "pin-board" --
> i.e. pin-board titles & controls only show on hover. Seeing the container's
> titles slightly ruins the effect at the moment (I commented on that about
> your recent excellent "Notepad" too).
>
> - Maybe make the "pin" into a toggle button that would open an in-line
> editor for the note?
>
> Best wishes
> TT
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, 13 November 2019 21:28:39 UTC+1, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> This is a proof of concept to create sticky notes in Tiddlywiki!
>> It is an idea and hopefully will be completed later on!
>>
>>
>> Demo: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Sticky-Notes/
>> Code: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Sticky-Notes
>>
>>
>> [image: sticky-notes.png]
>>
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[tw5] Re: Proof of concept: Sticky Notes in Tiddlywiki