Re: [tw] Re: Home Sweet Home ... are TiddlyWikiDev & TiddlyWikiDocs worth keeping?

2017-09-26 Thread Ste Wilson
My opener for ten.. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

Re: [tw] Re: Home Sweet Home ... are TiddlyWikiDev & TiddlyWikiDocs worth keeping?

2017-09-26 Thread Ste Wilson
Tiddly Wiki is a personal notebook which can be used to store all your thoughts in an easy to manage flash cards style system. You can easily link from one card to another as well as group topics and thoughts with tags #nohashtagneeded. It comes in a single file which can be opened and edited

Re: [tw] Re: Home Sweet Home ... are TiddlyWikiDev & TiddlyWikiDocs worth keeping?

2017-09-26 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Its an alarming trend, given that Chrome is so crap on facilities. (Me: gnostic in a wood with wi-fi since 1957). J. Arlen Beiler wrote: > > Just an interesting graphic on the browser market: > https://www.w3counter.com/trends > > Notice Firefox goes from slightly upward to significantly

Re: [tw] Re: Home Sweet Home ... are TiddlyWikiDev & TiddlyWikiDocs worth keeping?

2017-09-26 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Assign me a task for one item. J Riz wrote: > > Now somebody got to write the answers. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [tw] Re: Home Sweet Home ... are TiddlyWikiDev & TiddlyWikiDocs worth keeping?

2017-09-26 Thread Rizwan Ishak
Now somebody got to write the answers. On 26-Sep-2017 11:43 PM, "Arlen Beiler" wrote: > How can i say PINNED THREAD when so many people here would never see it on >> GG? > > > I don't think it really matters if *I* don't see it. What matters is that > I know it is there and

Re: [tw] Re: Home Sweet Home ... are TiddlyWikiDev & TiddlyWikiDocs worth keeping?

2017-09-26 Thread Arlen Beiler
> > How can i say PINNED THREAD when so many people here would never see it on > GG? I don't think it really matters if *I* don't see it. What matters is that I know it is there and every new person that goes to join the group is going to see it. On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 2:10 PM, @TiddlyTweeter

Re: [tw] Re: Home Sweet Home ... are TiddlyWikiDev & TiddlyWikiDocs worth keeping?

2017-09-26 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Slightly tech point ... (you people FORCED me to think more nerdish) FF 57, so I'm told, by #Mozilla folk who don't care about file saving, will attract Chrome users because its looks like Chrome+. I am highly sceptical. J. Riz wrote: > > PS: It is official I guess - FF 57 aka FF Quantum is

Re: [tw] Re: Home Sweet Home ... are TiddlyWikiDev & TiddlyWikiDocs worth keeping?

2017-09-26 Thread Arlen Beiler
TiddlyTweeter et al, > Noted. I apologise for referring to it a few times as "Retired". I > genuinely formed the idea that TiddlyServer was its nemesis. I had formed that opinion as well based on comments in one of the last TiddlyWiki hangouts about TiddlyDesktop. There was a TiddlyServer

Re: [tw] Re: Home Sweet Home ... are TiddlyWikiDev & TiddlyWikiDocs worth keeping?

2017-09-26 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Jeremy & tutti, Jeremy Ruston wrote: > > To kick off, for a long time my ambition for migrating from Google Groups > has been to eat our own dog food and move to a TiddlyWiki-based discussion > board... > Brilliant. The only problem is the starving dog :-). The downside is whilst we wait

[tw] Re: Home Sweet Home ... are TiddlyWikiDev & TiddlyWikiDocs worth keeping?

2017-09-26 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao TonyM & all A small footnote to last. Though I had no idea what it was or what to do with it, it was seeing Eric Shulman's TiddlyTools some long time ago that alerted me to TiddlyWiki. It stuck in me despite not using it at the time. And some years later I came back & re-looked at it and

[tw] Re: Home Sweet Home ... are TiddlyWikiDev & TiddlyWikiDocs worth keeping?

2017-09-26 Thread TonyM
Josia, You say > What Newbies need, IMO, is a simple Google group with basic instructions > and Q & A. And LINKS to FULL-FEATURED completed TW designed for SPECIFIC > PURPOSES so they can download what they need to get on with it and forget > everything else. > I agree but unless a

Re: [tw] Re: Home Sweet Home ... are TiddlyWikiDev & TiddlyWikiDocs worth keeping?

2017-09-21 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Again, thanks to everyone for contributing to another interesting thread. To kick off, for a long time my ambition for migrating from Google Groups has been to eat our own dog food and move to a TiddlyWiki-based discussion board. Part of the motivation is that I believe we could build a tool

Re: [tw] Re: Home Sweet Home ... are TiddlyWikiDev & TiddlyWikiDocs worth keeping?

2017-09-21 Thread Lost Admin
I didn't know there was a Reddit for tiddlywiki. I will go stealth reading it for a while. I use reddit to get very specific news about very specific things. sub-reddits that turn into a forum (like this) I drop pretty quickly. But, that's just my useage pattern. I am fully away others work

Re: [tw] Re: Home Sweet Home ... are TiddlyWikiDev & TiddlyWikiDocs worth keeping?

2017-09-20 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Its here: https://www.reddit.com/r/TiddlyWiki5/ ... and Riz is doing a few posts again after his resurrection from wage slavery & pissed-offness at the state of the world... On Wednesday, 20 September 2017 22:57:47 UTC+2, Arlen Beiler wrote: > > So how do I sign up for the Reddit group and

Re: [tw] Re: Home Sweet Home ... are TiddlyWikiDev & TiddlyWikiDocs worth keeping?

2017-09-20 Thread Arlen Beiler
So how do I sign up for the Reddit group and actually start using it? On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 4:39 PM, @TiddlyTweeter wrote: > I totally agree. AND disagree. BEFORE tiddlywiki.com how about PINNING > here? The problem with talking about tiddlywiki.com is its one step

[tw] Re: Home Sweet Home ... are TiddlyWikiDev & TiddlyWikiDocs worth keeping?

2017-09-20 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
I totally agree. AND disagree. BEFORE tiddlywiki.com how about PINNING here? The problem with talking about tiddlywiki.com is its one step too far away from anyone but @Jermolene doing anything. Like its "over there that it gets done" (by who?). The issue, at root is about MAKING A DECISION

[tw] Re: Home Sweet Home ... are TiddlyWikiDev & TiddlyWikiDocs worth keeping?

2017-09-20 Thread stefct4
On Monday, September 11, 2017 at 1:47:21 PM UTC+2, Mat wrote: > > > I can see an argument for adding more FAQ type docs to tiddlywiki.com. > That is the minimalist way, ie a <> or similar. > > I don't know how often this has been discussed already, but tiddlywiki.com could also use more examples

Re: [tw] Re: Home Sweet Home ... are TiddlyWikiDev & TiddlyWikiDocs worth keeping?

2017-09-20 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
EXACTLY. We are here in this camp. Like it or lump it. One thing I do keep pointng at is PINNING of a few threads here... like ... -- NEW HERE? and -- WAYS TO SAVE YOUR TIDDLYWIKI. and maybe a few others like ... -- SHOWCASE LINKS and -- GREAT PLUGINS But so far I never got anyone

Re: [tw] Re: Home Sweet Home ... are TiddlyWikiDev & TiddlyWikiDocs worth keeping?

2017-09-20 Thread Ste Wilson
Aren't we just circling the drain? Riz campaigned for a Reddit group worked hard to set it up and then watched as nothing happened.. We have that other thing that still needs votes (stack exchange?) which is going nowhere fast but we do have yet another thread calling for better documentation,

Re: [tw] Re: Home Sweet Home ... are TiddlyWikiDev & TiddlyWikiDocs worth keeping?

2017-09-16 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
What about trying a forum ? We can easily bring up a forum on any free tier, for example an heroku app and if it suceeds we can port it to whatever paid plan fits out needs, and maybe Jeremy could create an a record like forum.tiddlywiki.com for it. All are very straightforward and small steps

Re: [tw] Re: Home Sweet Home ... are TiddlyWikiDev & TiddlyWikiDocs worth keeping?

2017-09-16 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao dg I agree with you that many *SEARCHES for TiddlyWiki bring up both Classic & TW5*. Since TW5 is NOT fully downwardly compatible *it can create confusion* having those results. *Different names should have been used, really* as they are different things. They weren't named so

Re: [tw] Re: Home Sweet Home ... are TiddlyWikiDev & TiddlyWikiDocs worth keeping?

2017-09-11 Thread Dave Goggin
Pinned threads would be very helpful! Since most of the great TW tutorial sites are for TWC, sorting out what works for the current incarnation is a real problem. I don't know how applicable that material is, so I stay away from it. A source of current, curated content would help a lot.

[tw] Re: Home Sweet Home ... are TiddlyWikiDev & TiddlyWikiDocs worth keeping?

2017-09-11 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Further to last. We become BLIND to basics enjoying the dynamism here so much. Do you realise the header for this group does NOT give a link to tiddlywiki.com .. this is how it reads ... Welcome to the TiddlyWiki 5 discussion group for end users. Feel free to ask questions - we welcome

[tw] Re: Home Sweet Home ... are TiddlyWikiDev & TiddlyWikiDocs worth keeping?

2017-09-11 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Mat Actually, I agree. Not least because its pretty obvious TW currently does not have enough active uses to maintain yet more Groups. That was partly my point in the first place "Get rid of all redundancy". One thing I think you overlook is people are ALSO looking here, not just at

[tw] Re: Home Sweet Home ... are TiddlyWikiDev & TiddlyWikiDocs worth keeping?

2017-09-11 Thread Mat
@TiddlyTweeter wrote: > > > What is MISSING is a MINIMALIST way forward when you start. A place to ASK > about real basics. > I can see an argument for adding more FAQ type docs to tiddlywiki.com. That is the minimalist way, ie a <> or similar. Beyond that, I don't see what another forum than

[tw] Re: Home Sweet Home ... are TiddlyWikiDev & TiddlyWikiDocs worth keeping?

2017-09-11 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao PMario & TonyM Just to clarify one point. By* FULLY FORMED TW* ... *what I meant was a complete functioning application that has a public web address you can get it from*. Click & get it. That WHOLE TW. For NEWBIES add-on modules, plugins and all the kind of DIY things WE take for

[tw] Re: Home Sweet Home ... are TiddlyWikiDev & TiddlyWikiDocs worth keeping?

2017-09-11 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao dg That is a very GOOD, USEFUL, reply to issues I was trying to articulate--you did better than I did. That is part of the issue. I'm so embedded in basic knowing of TW--I'm getting blind to BASIC SIMPLE NEEDS of many potential users. IMO we let down potential new users. Part of the

[tw] Re: Home Sweet Home ... are TiddlyWikiDev & TiddlyWikiDocs worth keeping?

2017-09-10 Thread dg
I'm one of the "newbie's" referred to in this discussion. I know only a smattering of HTML, even less CSS, and virtually nothing about client/server or node.js, etc. I don't even know JavaScript (JS), although I may learn since it's so pervasive. I have done simple programming before in

[tw] Re: Home Sweet Home ... are TiddlyWikiDev & TiddlyWikiDocs worth keeping?

2017-09-06 Thread TonyM
Mario, I did look at your bundler plugin and I think it is great, I intend to use it, I expect you will hear from me later because I have some thoughts about fitting it into a ecosystem of sorts. An ecosystem where the need to differentiate between editions and Apps, or modules will become

[tw] Re: Home Sweet Home ... are TiddlyWikiDev & TiddlyWikiDocs worth keeping?

2017-09-06 Thread PMario
On Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 4:05:26 PM UTC+2, TonyM wrote: > > I would add to the idea of formed applications, another layer of self > contained modules, as is often the outcome of a specific plugin rather than > an whole edition. > For me edtions and apps are the same thing. but

[tw] Re: Home Sweet Home ... are TiddlyWikiDev & TiddlyWikiDocs worth keeping?

2017-09-06 Thread TonyM
I would add to the idea of formed applications, another layer of self contained modules, as is often the outcome of a specific plugin rather than an whole edition. I plan to build something I call object tiddlers, and hope to create lego blocks rather than provide a lego kit for the

[tw] Re: Home Sweet Home ... are TiddlyWikiDev & TiddlyWikiDocs worth keeping?

2017-09-06 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao c pa I wrote ... > >>START a TiddlyWikiNewbie that contains ONLY info for beginners > c pa replied: > Because TiddlyWiki is such a complex and functional product, making a > distinction between newbie and "not newbie" questions is very hard ... > I agree IF the newbie is a

Re: [tw] Re: Home Sweet Home ... are TiddlyWikiDev & TiddlyWikiDocs worth keeping?

2017-09-06 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Arlen One of the pains with StackExchange is the hoops you have to go through. I thought I voted already? Now I have to do it AGAIN? This process is slower than a snail with a heavy weight on its back :-). Best wishes Josiah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

Re: [tw] Re: Home Sweet Home ... are TiddlyWikiDev & TiddlyWikiDocs worth keeping?

2017-09-05 Thread Arlen Beiler
I feel like putting a plug in here for the Area51 proposal for a dedicated TiddlyWiki Stack Exchange site. It's in the commit stage now, so all you have to do is sign in and commit. It will help the proposal if you use the same account you use on the rest of the stack exchange network if you have

[tw] Re: Home Sweet Home ... are TiddlyWikiDev & TiddlyWikiDocs worth keeping?

2017-09-05 Thread 'c pa' via TiddlyWiki
>> DUMP TiddlyWikiDocs & TiddlyWikiDev These 2 groups experience periodic spurts of activity when clever folks get into really deep discussions that are off the general topic >>START a TiddlyWikiNewbie that contains ONLY info for beginners Because TiddlyWiki is such a complex and functional