Re: [tw5] Re: TiddlyBlink (Roam-y experiment, contd)

Hi Sharat Given that this is an old thread, I will assume you haven't seen the newer threads about the new version I am almost done with, called Stroll. Please try Stroll out, but only to experiment with. There are easier instructions. TiddlyBlink has a couple of things that need fixing, so I

Re: [tw5] Re: TiddlyBlink (Roam-y experiment, contd)

Hi David, I'm new to TiddlyWiki ecosystem. I installed your plugin and did save and reload. But when I type '[[' I don't see autocomplete options. How can I troubleshoot this? Thank you! On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 1:27:00 PM UTC-4, David Gifford wrote: > > Just drag them into your file in

Re: [tw5] Re: TiddlyBlink (Roam-y experiment, contd)

Just drag them into your file in your browser. Or, export them as tid files and put them in the folder where your nodejs tids are. On Sat, Apr 25, 2020, 11:30 AM Kyrylo Zapylaiev wrote: > Thanks! Sorry about the offtopic, but how can I extract/import these > tiddlers in order to create a custom

Re: [tw5] Re: TiddlyBlink (Roam-y experiment, contd)

Thanks! Sorry about the offtopic, but how can I extract/import these tiddlers in order to create a custom plugin for nodejs environment? On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 7:04:03 PM UTC+3, David Gifford wrote: > > Hi Kyrylo > > The primary tiddlers for this transclude backlinks in four different

Re: [tw5] Re: TiddlyBlink (Roam-y experiment, contd)

Hi Kyrylo The primary tiddlers for this transclude backlinks in four different ways, according to one's preferences $:/.giffmex/ViewTemplate/refscontext $:/.giffmex/ViewTemplate/refslinks $:/.giffmex/ViewTemplate/refstranscludeclean $:/.giffmex/ViewTemplate/refstranscludecollapse and the

Re: [tw5] Re: TiddlyBlink (Roam-y experiment, contd)

David, first of all, thank you for all your hard work. But unfortunately, it's not clear how to add the only functionality of showing bi-directional links, instead of the whole bunch of custom theming and articles. I mean, is it possible to add to my own vanilla TiddlyWiki just the

Re: [tw5] Re: TiddlyBlink (Roam-y experiment, contd)

Thanks David! It is working fine now, the issue was due to not reloading the page. I didn't realize that the browser had to be refreshed everytime you import a plugin, anyway thanks for the response. On a different note, great work with the plugin, was looking for an alternative to Roam myself

Re: [tw5] Re: TiddlyBlink (Roam-y experiment, contd)

Raghu, if you go to the online Tiddlyblink, drag the tag 'tb' from the top tiddler into your own file. Then hit the import button, then hit save, and refresh the browser. That should be enough to import everything but the tutorials. Bi-directional links apply to links between tiddlers in the

[tw5] Re: TiddlyBlink (Roam-y experiment, contd)

Hi Mark, That worked! You were right, it was because of not reloading the page. I had imported and saved everything, but was constantly fiddling around without actually reloading the page. Thanks a lot. —Raghu On Tuesday, March 17, 2020 at 8:23:13 PM UTC+5:30, Mark S. wrote: > > Did you

[tw5] Re: TiddlyBlink (Roam-y experiment, contd)

Did you save and reload? The plugins don't work until save/reload. It seems to work pretty well, except the auto-creation of tiddlers from links. I've had trouble with this feature before. For those who want to save time importing all 63 tiddlers, use the attached tiddler. Make a backup of

Re: [tw5] Re: TiddlyBlink (Roam-y experiment, contd)

Am traveling, will help you later On Tue, Mar 17, 2020, 5:04 AM Raghu Veer S wrote: > Hey guys, I was trying to add TiddlyBlink to my my personal wiki, but the > directions mentioned in here*(https://giffmex.org/gifts/tiddlyblink.html > )* says to

[tw5] Re: TiddlyBlink (Roam-y experiment, contd)

Hey guys, I was trying to add TiddlyBlink to my my personal wiki, but the directions mentioned in here*(https://giffmex.org/gifts/tiddlyblink.html)* says to drag links from the TiddlyBlink wiki to My wiki. 1. I tried importing all of them(all the links present in this tiddler:*

[tw5] Re: TiddlyBlink (Roam-y experiment, contd)

Great! Will give it a try tonight. On Wednesday, March 4, 2020 at 12:17:54 PM UTC-8, David Gifford wrote: > > Hi Graham, Mark and anyone listening in, > > I tagged the essential stuff as 'tb'. So you can drag the 'tb' tag pill > from the front page right into your file to import the tiddlers.

[tw5] Re: TiddlyBlink (Roam-y experiment, contd)

Hi Graham, Mark and anyone listening in, I tagged the essential stuff as 'tb'. So you can drag the 'tb' tag pill from the front page right into your file to import the tiddlers. This does not include the instruction pages or non-essential system tiddlers. However, you will want to make sure

Re: [tw5] Re: TiddlyBlink (Roam-y experiment, contd)

Hey Mark, that is a great idea. I am out today, but will try to do that tomorrow and will post here when I have done that. I could still tag the other plugins. On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 10:35 AM 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki < tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com> wrote: > You could tag everything that's part

[tw5] Re: TiddlyBlink (Roam-y experiment, contd)

You could tag everything that's part of your kit with "TiddlyBlink". Then someone could just drag and drop the "TiddlyBlink" tag button from your TW into their file and get their starter kit. The other plugins would have to be done separately, but even that's not too hard since they can just

Re: [tw5] Re: TiddlyBlink (Roam-y experiment, contd)

Yes, shortly after my first message it occurred to me a plugin would seem appropriate. In many plugin systems you can declare dependencies and have them pulled in automatically; not sure if that is true with TW or not. If I stick with it I will take a look at some point at what’s involved in

[tw5] Re: TiddlyBlink (Roam-y experiment, contd)

Hi Graham Thanks for the kind words. Yes, at the moment, importing all the tiddlers with the import tool in the sidebar would be easier. Or else as you say, manually dragging the links from TiddlyBlink into your file. I have changed some core tiddlers, so depending on how you have configured

[tw5] Re: TiddlyBlink (Roam-y experiment, contd)

I'm just trying this out. I was looking at Roam but decided that I didn't like a cloud-based approach, and there were a few other things about it I found offputting. Then I found Trilium, which is pretty cool but not that Mac friendly yet and a bit too rough around the edges. Then I found your

[tw5] Re: TiddlyBlink (Roam-y experiment, contd)

Hi Ste Thanks for playing with Tiddlyblink, and for your feedback. The instructions share about hiding certain tiddlers from appearing in other tiddler's references. But your question is the opposite: hiding all references from appearing under a tiddler. One obvious hack is adding even one

[tw5] Re: TiddlyBlink (Roam-y experiment, contd)

Hi David, Finally had a chance to try this out today. Most impressive! Obviously I pushed it onto a copy of my engineering wiki to see what happens...:) Thoughts: Is it possible to turn off the backlinks from displaying in individual tiddlers, for example, the Table of contents or 'Don't

Re: [tw5] Re: TiddlyBlink (Roam-y experiment, contd)

I guess I'm leaning more towards "feature". In terms of "text pollution", this allows you to put links inside of html tags, so you don't have to see them and yet the reference linking will occur. On Tuesday, February 11, 2020 at 5:45:42 AM UTC-8, David Gifford wrote: > > Hi Mark > > Yes, as

Re: [tw5] Re: TiddlyBlink (Roam-y experiment, contd)

An interesting side effect is that it can link to tiddlers in markdown, whereas the standard backlink would not. You might have to put "references (not the same as links) " in your documentation for people as dense as myself ;-) On Tuesday, February 11, 2020 at 5:45:42 AM UTC-8, David Gifford

Re: [tw5] Re: TiddlyBlink (Roam-y experiment, contd)

Hi Mark Yes, as the documentation mentions, TB finds even unlinked references to the tiddler title. Meant as a feature, imitating the same feature in Roam. And that is why I call it references rather than links, because it includes regexp. However, Roam distinguishes between linked and unlinked

[tw5] Re: TiddlyBlink (Roam-y experiment, contd)

Feature or bug? TiddlyBlink will link words that are not in [[square brackets]] . I mean if I have a tiddler name "Kitten Dandruff" it will show links to anything containing the words "Kitten Dandruff", even though they are not bracketed as links. -- You received this message because you are

Re: [tw5] Re: TiddlyBlink (Roam-y experiment, contd)

On Monday, February 10, 2020 at 1:36:47 PM UTC-8, David Gifford wrote: > > Hi Mark > > I just tried what you are saying .When in tiddler AAA I create a link to > non-existing tiddler BBB, save it, and click the link to tiddler BBB, > tiddler BBB opens, and shows a reference to AAA. Or are you

Re: [tw5] Re: TiddlyBlink (Roam-y experiment, contd)

Hi Mark I just tried what you are saying .When in tiddler AAA I create a link to non-existing tiddler BBB, save it, and click the link to tiddler BBB, tiddler BBB opens, and shows a reference to AAA. Or are you referring to non-linked references? Those would definitely On your related note,

[tw5] Re: TiddlyBlink (Roam-y experiment, contd)

Say you create a link to a non-existing tiddler inside your text and close your tiddler. Then click on the link. Because of the way it's created, there is no reference list for this tiddler. You're stranded. The only way to go anywhere else to open the sidebar and use the "recent" tab or the

[tw5] Re: TiddlyBlink (Roam-y experiment, contd)

Hmmm good to know, maybe you could elaborate on how you are getting into the cul de sacs. What you do / what you expect / what happens instead. Thanks! On Monday, February 10, 2020 at 1:50:52 PM UTC-6, Mark S. wrote: > > I noticed that it's easy to click into a *cul de sac* sometimes. Some >

[tw5] Re: TiddlyBlink (Roam-y experiment, contd)

I noticed that it's easy to click into a *cul de sac* sometimes. Some place with no links or references to allow an exit. For my experiments, I've added the following template tiddler, that will let you back up a step. Or go forward a step. <$list filter="[list[$:/StoryList]before]"

Re: [tw5] Re: TiddlyBlink (Roam-y experiment, contd)

​H​i Mark Thanks for your feedback and playing around with it. I don't think there is one best workflow for TiddlyBlink. I think each file could be slightly different. You could just use notes with titles and links, and view the references as links. You could do something similar to what I

Re: [tw5] Re: TiddlyBlink (Roam-y experiment, contd)

The problem with the outlines is that they have to be maintained by hand. That's OK for special pages, but what if you want to see an automatic listing of all journal listings, without having to drill down to the Journal "parent" ? That's the ability I'm adding, experimentally to see if it

Re: [tw5] Re: TiddlyBlink (Roam-y experiment, contd)

Hi Mark I single out outlines in order to hide them from transclusion. So, if I am understanding you correctly, kind of the opposite of what you are doing. I do that because outline tiddlers tend to be vertically quite tall, and with little actual content other than links. If the transclusion

[tw5] Re: TiddlyBlink (Roam-y experiment, contd)

It seems to me the reason you have an "outline" option is because the reference display of links is opaque, at compared to the traditional TOC approach -- you can only drill down to the very next level. Here's something I'm trying. Certain tiddlers get a tag of "header". If a tiddler appears

Re: [tw5] Re: TiddlyBlink (Roam-y experiment, contd)

Ok. Guess I need to "upgrade" to match yours differently than I have been doing. On Friday, February 7, 2020 at 12:03:33 PM UTC-8, David Gifford wrote: > > It is working for me on https://giffmex.org/gifts/tiddlyblink.html - what > exactly are you doing that is not producing that behavior? > >

Re: [tw5] Re: TiddlyBlink (Roam-y experiment, contd)

It is working for me on https://giffmex.org/gifts/tiddlyblink.html - what exactly are you doing that is not producing that behavior? On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 2:00 PM 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki < tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com> wrote: > The feature that automatically creates tiddlers for non-existing

[tw5] Re: TiddlyBlink (Roam-y experiment, contd)

The feature that automatically creates tiddlers for non-existing links when the tiddler is closed doesn't seem to work either. Or did that feature not make the cut? Thanks! On Friday, February 7, 2020 at 11:10:24 AM UTC-8, David Gifford wrote: > > Hi Mark > > Fixed it, realized what happen the

[tw5] Re: TiddlyBlink (Roam-y experiment, contd)

Hi Mark Fixed it, realized what happen the second I saw your email. Thanks for the heads up! On Friday, February 7, 2020 at 12:50:59 PM UTC-6, Mark S. wrote: > > I think something went wrong. Now there are no refs showing up. > > On Friday, February 7, 2020 at 8:39:05 AM UTC-8, David Gifford

[tw5] Re: TiddlyBlink (Roam-y experiment, contd)

I think something went wrong. Now there are no refs showing up. On Friday, February 7, 2020 at 8:39:05 AM UTC-8, David Gifford wrote: > > Oh! That's right, I did notice that the tiddly fold data was showing up > everywhere, and forgot to do anything about it. I just fixed that and > updated TB,

[tw5] Re: TiddlyBlink (Roam-y experiment, contd)

Oh! That's right, I did notice that the tiddly fold data was showing up everywhere, and forgot to do anything about it. I just fixed that and updated TB, and credited you in the change log. Thanks for your help! About the parallel tab, what A Gloom cooked up is wonderful, but I agree, if it

[tw5] Re: TiddlyBlink (Roam-y experiment, contd)

Hi Dave, I notice that you are continuing to make improvements to TiddlyBlink. Great! When I test, it looks like items tagged "meta" are not blocked from "references". Is this on purpose? It seems to me that blocking meta is important, especially (in this case) if the tiddly fold data may

[tw5] Re: TiddlyBlink (Roam-y experiment, contd)

torsdag den 30. januar 2020 kl. 02.17.11 UTC+1 skrev David Gifford: > > Yay! I found a workaround for hiding the checkboxes and the message about > clicking gray boxes: put them in a sidebar tab. That way, there will only > be notes if there are notes. > > > You are a genius! The simplest

Re: [tw5] Re: TiddlyBlink (Roam-y experiment, contd)

Ilya, the fix to Tidd;yBlink I just mentioned has a couple drawbacks 1) You don't see links in the text field of the parent tiddler to the child tiddler, since they are in your special field. But then that must be the case with however you are doing it now. 2) Autocomplete and linkify, etc will

Re: [tw5] Re: TiddlyBlink (Roam-y experiment, contd)

Hi Ilya In TiddlyBlink (https://giffmex.org/gifts/tiddlyblink.html), you could modify the tiddlers $:/.giffmex/ViewTemplate/refscontext $:/.giffmex/ViewTemplate/refslinks

Re: [tw5] Re: TiddlyBlink (Roam-y experiment, contd)

Hi, HC Haase This is really! Is there a way to support people who don't use tags for modeling parent - child relationship between tiddlers? Here is some background about my use case. I started using create here button a while ago. I quickly discovered that it renders the tags unusable feature.

[tw5] Re: TiddlyBlink (Roam-y experiment, contd)

Yay! I found a workaround for hiding the checkboxes and the message about clicking gray boxes: put them in a sidebar tab. That way, there will only be notes if there are notes. On Wednesday, January 29, 2020 at 8:01:34 AM UTC-6, HC Haase wrote: > > @Dave > thanks for the detailed reply. I will

[tw5] Re: TiddlyBlink (Roam-y experiment, contd)

Thanks HC! On Wednesday, January 29, 2020 at 8:01:34 AM UTC-6, HC Haase wrote: > > @Dave > thanks for the detailed reply. I will get back to that later when I have > more time. Glad you liked my mash-up. > > tirsdag den 28. januar 2020 kl. 17.09.46 UTC+1 skrev David Gifford: >> >> Addendum: For

[tw5] Re: TiddlyBlink (Roam-y experiment, contd)

@Dave thanks for the detailed reply. I will get back to that later when I have more time. Glad you liked my mash-up. tirsdag den 28. januar 2020 kl. 17.09.46 UTC+1 skrev David Gifford: > > Addendum: For TiddlyBlink I would be interested in the "show only when > there is something" feature, and

[tw5] Re: TiddlyBlink (Roam-y experiment, contd)

Addendum: For TiddlyBlink I would be interested in the "show only when there is something" feature, and the ability to turn the other checkboxes off when clicking one of the checkboxes. i.e., close context and links when clicking the transclusion box, etc. But these things are beyond me. I

[tw5] Re: TiddlyBlink (Roam-y experiment, contd)

Hi HC Here are my comments to your two posts: 1) Yes, I realize that TiddlyWiki has had bi-directional linking all along, just that the links back were hidden in the information section in the more menu. But I had to call it that in order to communicate to people familiar with Roam. As you

[tw5] Re: TiddlyBlink (Roam-y experiment, contd)

That's some fancy semantics.. I like the mane ;) Its funny though, when I look at Roam and what you are doing in blink I do not see bidirectional linking to be the goal/defining feature. As I understand bidirectional linking. It is links that are bidirectional, two direction A to B and B to A.