[tw5] Re: macro definition

2020-09-17 Thread Felicia Crow
Hi, yes as long as all the macros are defined at the beginning of the tiddler. Empty lines to seperate the individual tiddlers work, but everything else in between will trip tiddlywiki up and won't let it recognize the \define following. Regards, Felicia On Thursday, 17 September 2020

Re: [tw5] Re: How to debug TW code

2020-09-17 Thread Atronoush Parsi
Bob, There is a resource called TW-Scripts which has collected selectively some Q but unfortunately the author is absent for a few months. See: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Scripts/ Atro On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 4:45 AM Bob Jansen wrote: > Thanks Tones and Imtiaz helpful ideas. > > Maybe a

[tw5] Re: Roam Research is NOT a model. It's a money machine.

2020-09-17 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Tones Philosophy is very good in this situation. LINKAGE & TAGGING on the net generally is (1) seriously under-conceived; and (2) badly explained (because the language we are using LACKS needed differentiations). Philosophy (the art of deriving new working concepts) helps. TT On Wednesday,

[tw5] search widget odd behaviour

2020-09-17 Thread Bob Jansen
I have three tiddlers, tag=Names, TK5, TK6 and TK7. Each has a field, artwork_id but only TK5 has artwork_id=TK1. the other two have an empty field. I have a tiddler, TK1 which has a field artwork_id with value TK1. TK1 calls a macro <> The macro is: \define is_purchased_by(artworkID)

[tw5] Re: How to Quick select the first search result in simple search ?

2020-09-17 Thread Zhe Lee
Thank you it works. But in the normal search. I use the search plugin `simple search` now. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/TiddlyWiki/vEqmX2lFVDI I wonder it is there a way to make macro to use down and up to select the item, not 3 times `tab`. On Thursday, September 17, 2020 at

[tw5] Re: [TW5] New Plugin: Simple Search

2020-09-17 Thread Zhe Lee
Hi is there a way to make the `down` to select the first item, instead of 3 times tab? On Saturday, August 29, 2020 at 6:38:41 PM UTC+8, Thomas Elmiger wrote: Hi again, I had to search for that myself ... this should do the trick: In $:/plugins/telmiger/simple-search/SearchResultsOther replace

[tw5] Re: action-navigator doesn't work with macros

2020-09-17 Thread Saq Imtiaz
I think Eric missed the part where you mentioned creating keyboard shortcuts, which does involve using the Navigator widget. For it to work you also need to know what the "current" tiddler is, the currentTiddler variable is not defined in keyboard shortcuts since they are global. There is an

[tw5] macro definition

2020-09-17 Thread Bob Jansen
Can I define more than one macro in a tiddler and have them all available by tagging the tiddler with $:/tags/Macro or does it have to be one macro definition per tiddler? bobj -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe

[tw5] Re: Roam Research is NOT a model. It's a money machine.

2020-09-17 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Birthe Right. Roam got us users. So thanks. Though slightly qualified. More interesting, I think, is the issue of *HOW Roam got known?* Was that marketing? Or serendipity? Dimmi (tell me). We COULD promote TW more I think. We don't do much. A brilliant system for insiders is never knowable

[tw5] Re: search widget odd behaviour

2020-09-17 Thread Saq Imtiaz
Hi Bob, A few things to consider here. Firstly, when you want to pass an indirect parameter (via text reference) to a macro, you cannot use the form: <> Instead, you need to use the macrocall widget: <$macrocall $name="is_purchased_by" artWorkID={{!!artwork_id}} /> Please see

[tw5] Re: Roam Research is NOT a model. It's a money machine.

2020-09-17 Thread David Gifford
Thanks strikke, my comment about blaming me for the recent emphasis on Roam in the TiddlyWiki community was tongue in cheek, since TiddlyTweeter's post title was that Roam is a negative influence - NOT a model, overrated, and just out for the money. On Thursday, September 17, 2020 at 10:44:38

[tw5] Re: Roam Research is NOT a model. It's a money machine.

2020-09-17 Thread TW Tones
Rika Thanks for sharing your view here. I think you touch on something Important, the revolution who's time has come, is the democratisation of Information Technology. Giving the users the ability to craft their own environment at a minimum to store and retrieve there own content, for

[tw5] Re: Newcomer struggles

2020-09-17 Thread TW Tones
Post script, There are a few developments in the wings that may reduce the complexity and need of documentation through guided interactions with tiddlywiki, watch this space. Tones On Friday, 18 September 2020 10:05:41 UTC+10, TW Tones wrote: > > Edoardo, > > Welcome back, if you are

[tw5] Re: Roam Research is NOT a model. It's a money machine.

2020-09-17 Thread Rika Sukenik
Hi all. If I may, I'd like to chime in. I'm a new Tiddlywiki user and I've also been a Roam user for several months. Both are wonderful products. I think - at least for right now - there is space for both tools in the knowledge management ecosystem. I think it would be helpful if I provide my

[tw5] Re: Newcomer struggles

2020-09-17 Thread TW Tones
Edoardo, Welcome back, if you are committing to adopt tiddlywiki and develop it sharing back to the community, I can certainly commit to helping you develop your understanding. I think you reason to settle on tiddlywiki is spot on. First, many plugins are discover-able with a search, there are

[tw5] Re: Let's restyle Google Groups!

2020-09-17 Thread TW Tones
Mat, I am interested in the method as a whole, but I wonder what you see it as achieving? Perhaps some exploration of the GG interface and subsequent customisation's makes sense but I we loose it all, to the new groups then it may be wasted effort. Perhaps after the transition to the new

[tw5] Re: New TiddlyTools time feature: "inline EditDate control"

2020-09-17 Thread Hans Wobbe
Thanks for reminding me to "Read the documentation". (Blush). I was so pleased by this set of Date functions, I just rushed right in! On Tuesday, September 15, 2020 at 4:46:31 AM UTC-4 Eric Shulman wrote: > On Monday, September 14, 2020 at 3:35:14 AM UTC-7, Hans Wobbe wrote: >> >> The

[tw5] The "new" Google Groups, generally, sucks, so far.

2020-09-17 Thread TiddlyTweeter
The subject is the message. *The "new" Google Groups, generally, sucks, so far.* - *Functions have disappeared.* - *Layout got more inflexible.* - *On mobile its very bad indeed.* Given that TW was already struggling on GG to be useable (it was fine day to day; just its memory was so

[tw5] Re: The "new" Google Groups, generally, sucks, so far.

2020-09-17 Thread TW Tones
I recommend, Change to the new groups, look for a problem, there is plenty, change back to the old groups, you should get a chance to explain why you are going back. I have done it a few times, and include statements like "cant do basic things" such as reply on mobile etc.. Tones On

Re: [tw5] Re: search widget odd behaviour

2020-09-17 Thread Dr. Bob Jansen
Eric, that doesn't work, no results returned. Have also tried <$list filter="[tag[Names]!tag[Index]!matchsearch:artwork_id[$artID$]]"> which doesn't work either, no results returned. Interestingly, Saq's comment about replacing the call to the macro with <$macrocall

[tw5] Re: action-navigator doesn't work with macros

2020-09-17 Thread kebi
Thanks Saq, it is exactly what I was searching for! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this

Re: [tw5] Re: search widget odd behaviour

2020-09-17 Thread Saq Imtiaz
Try: <$list filter="[[$artworkID$]!is[blank]]" variable="not_blank"> <$list filter="[tag[Names]!tag[Index]!matchcontains:artwork_id[$artID$]]"> <$view field="person_name"/> If you still have issues, it would be a lot easier to assist if you could post a copy of your file where we

Re: [tw5] Re: search widget odd behaviour

2020-09-17 Thread Dr Bob Jansen
Saq, Thank you for your email and comments. The issue of one-to-many links is replicated in other relationships and so the issue still need to be resolved. Also, in the case of a print, there is more than one buyer of an artwork and thus we need the search facility. The issue of the macrocall

[tw5] Re: search widget odd behaviour

2020-09-17 Thread Eric Shulman
On Wednesday, September 16, 2020 at 11:37:09 PM UTC-7, Bob Jansen wrote: > > I have three tiddlers, tag=Names, TK5, TK6 and TK7. Each has a field, > artwork_id but only TK5 has artwork_id=TK1. the other two have an empty > field. > I have a tiddler, TK1 which has a field artwork_id with value

[tw5] Re: Roam Research is NOT a model. It's a money machine.

2020-09-17 Thread Birthe C
TT, Well, It was rather difficult not to hear or read about RoamResearch everywhere, that is also the case now, just not as positive, many finding alternatives. That might have to do with pricing but not only. https://yetidistro.com/roam/ I know that is rather old now, but still somebody

[tw5] Re: The "new" Google Groups, generally, sucks, so far.

2020-09-17 Thread Birthe C
TT, I fear for the day that happens. I have involuntarily had the new group shown a couple of times...and hastily changed back. I do not have to worry about mobile use. Hope to be able to adapt though, because I would terribly miss the group otherwise. Birthe -- You received this message

[tw5] Re: macro definition

2020-09-17 Thread TW Tones
Also, An empty define of the form \define name() \end or \define name() \end Will cause problems However \define note() Note in macros \define note() Some notes \end Thus redefining, is the best option for in line comments. Also there is now a new tag SystemTag: $:/tags/Macro/View

[tw5] Re: [TW5] New Plugin: Simple Search

2020-09-17 Thread Thomas Elmiger
> > Hi is there a way to make the `down` to select the first item, instead of > 3 times tab? > Hi. Not one that I would know of or be able to implement. I just use "natural" browser tabbing. This selects the elements in order of appearance. As I use Advanced search results often I find it

[tw5] Re: Setting up a reproducible TW: digital literacy resource collection

2020-09-17 Thread TiddlyTweeter
THAT is a very interesting project. The idea to have an online CONFIGURATION and TW BUILDER tool has been floating around for years. I can see in your project some steps towards what is badly needed. Particularly the focus on FUNDAMENTAL plugins that have evolved over the years. We SERIOUSLY

[tw5] Re: The "new" Google Groups, generally, sucks, so far.

2020-09-17 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Right. Agreed. Switching back after auto-converts (on Desktop) is the easiest way to register comments on how it sucks. It is very poor. It is* LESS FUNCTIONAL than the previous version*. That must be a conscious choice, given that Google are not idiots, indicating the changes are

[tw5] Re: How to create hard link using macro?

2020-09-17 Thread Tejasvi
Unfortunately, I haven't. Also, I don't think backlinking using soft links would be possible without hacking the TW core. See Jeremy's comments on this and this . Specifically for

[tw5] Re: How to stick one tiddler on top?

2020-09-17 Thread Eric Shulman
On Wednesday, September 16, 2020 at 7:33:34 PM UTC-7, Zhe Lee wrote: > > I have one summary like tiddler, contains many other tiddlers. I will go > through all tiddlers and check them one by one, meanwhile I need this > summary tiddler on stick on top . how to make it? > Add tag

Re: [tw5] Re: search widget odd behaviour

2020-09-17 Thread Dr. Bob Jansen
Colleagues, Experimenting with the contains operator but having trouble with how to write the operator string correctly. Am changing my <$list> structure to <$list filter="[[$artworkID$]!is[blank]]" variable="not_blank">    <$list filter="[tag[Names]!tag[Index]!match">   <$list

[tw5] Re: Modifying Save Behaviour

2020-09-17 Thread Rob Hoelz
Hi Simon, welcome to TiddlyWiki and to the group! Are you talking about running TiddlyWiki on Node.js? If so, you might find this helpful: https://tiddlywiki.com/#Customising%20Tiddler%20File%20Naming -Rob On Thursday, September 17, 2020 at 8:01:58 PM UTC-5 Simon wrote: > New tiddlywiki user

[tw5] Re: How to create hard link using macro?

2020-09-17 Thread TW Tones
Tejasvi, Don't give up. There are various ways we cross reference tiddlers, back-links are but one. I started looking into this but do not have time to complete, but it is a simple matter of searching for a tiddler name wrapped in curly braces. Of course such a search needs to be global, so

Re: [tw5] Re: search widget odd behaviour

2020-09-17 Thread TW Tones
Bob, Perhaps this helps, or not, I have not read this topic. fieldname[value] works in any filter to return only tiddlers with a fieldname with the ""value", it allows you to create things which look like new filter operators; eg display-code[show] However if you start using multiple

[tw5] Modifying Save Behaviour

2020-09-17 Thread Simon
New tiddlywiki user here, I'm of the GTD flavor! So I can code, and I would like to modify the behavior of the save functionality - basically I want to change the filename - long story short I live in a highly regulated world and I need to do this. Not looking for the code, but can somebody

[tw5] Re: Modifying Save Behaviour

2020-09-17 Thread Birthe C
Simon, Do you mean saving tw, then look here: https://tiddlywiki.com/#Hidden%20Setting%3A%20Filename%20for%20Save%20Wiki%20Button and welcome here. Birthe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[tw5] Re: New TiddlyTools time feature: **Interactive Calendar**

2020-09-17 Thread Eric Shulman
On Thursday, September 17, 2020 at 7:52:49 PM UTC-7, danraymond wrote: > > One issue I am having with the Calendar and Sidebar Calendar is that they > show as a single line for each month. That is not a "calendar" shape at > all? (see image). > I am using the "Stories" plugin, maybe that is

[tw5] Re: Let's restyle Google Groups!

2020-09-17 Thread Mat
> > I am interested in the method as a whole, but I wonder what you see it as > achieving? > (How can this not be clear in my post?) To improve the new GG interface. Perhaps some exploration of the GG interface and subsequent customisation's > makes sense but I we loose it all, to the new

Re: [tw5] Re: search widget odd behaviour

2020-09-17 Thread Saq Imtiaz
Bob, Try entering this directly in the TK1 tiddler: <$list filter="[{!!artwork_id}!is[blank]]" variable="not_blank"> <$list filter="[tag[Names]!tag[Index]!matchcontains:artwork_id{!!artwork_id}]"> <$view field="person_name"/> On Thursday, September 17, 2020 at 2:34:30 PM UTC+2,

Re: [tw5] Re: search widget odd behaviour

2020-09-17 Thread Dr. Bob Jansen
Sorry Saq, doesn't work either. You can download a copy of the TW from http://cultconv.com/TLSConsignment.html bobj On 17/9/20 10:12 pm, Saq Imtiaz wrote: Try: <$list filter="[[$artworkID$]!is[blank]]" variable="not_blank">    <$list

Re: [tw5] Re: search widget odd behaviour

2020-09-17 Thread Saq Imtiaz
You can further simplify things a lot by using custom view templates, so you don't need to manually call each macro etc in each artwork tiddler and each person tiddler. For example, to get the same code applied to what you see for each Artworks tiddler, create a tiddler with this content and

[tw5] Generating links depending on field value

2020-09-17 Thread Darek Bobak
I cannot get simple, as I suppose, result: There is a field. Let's say, bibtex-doiuri. If the field has any value, i'd like to get as an output: [[DOI|content_of_the_field]] If the field is empty, i'd like to get nothing. An empty string. The result should appear within the $list widget (if it

Re: [tw5] Re: search widget odd behaviour

2020-09-17 Thread Dr. Bob Jansen
Colleagues, I should have added, if you are going to play with the file, the artwork that shows the wrong behaviour is TK1 and no other. The others don't have the correct macrocall in them. The list appears under the text, "*This artwork has been purchased by*" It should only show TK5.

Re: [tw5] Re: search widget odd behaviour

2020-09-17 Thread Dr Bob Jansen
Saq, Ah, clever. Did not know about these templates. Will try tomorrow. Thanks for your help. BobJ --- Dr Bob Jansen The Cultural Conversations project Turtle Lane Studios Pty Ltd trading as the Australian Centre for Oral History 122 Cameron St, Rockdale NSW 2216, Australia Ph

[tw5] Re: [Tiddly Research] Public release

2020-09-17 Thread Casey
Tony, This is very intriguing. It is actually the one thing I don't like about streams, is the naming of the tiddlers. If you end up whipping something up, I'd gladly help test it out. On Monday, September 14, 2020 at 9:24:14 AM UTC-5 TW Tones wrote: > Kebi, > > Generating captions for

[tw5] Re: Roam Research is NOT a model. It's a money machine.

2020-09-17 Thread Birthe C
David, LOL, blame you, why? Stroll is great and a lot of new users learned about the existence of Tiddlywiki. Some got inspired and created variants and I would not be surprised if a lot of us are using some of your goodies too in other wikis. (I know I am). You have had lots of work

[tw5] Re: Newcomer struggles

2020-09-17 Thread Saq Imtiaz
Hi Edoardo, Part of the reason you are having trouble locating the source code repositories for plugins is that a lot of the community contributors are not developers, and do not use Github (or any other form of version control). This is further complicated by the fact the traditional form

Re: [tw5] Re: Newcomer struggles

2020-09-17 Thread Edoardo Tenani
Hi Saq, thank you for the reply! > Part of the reason you are having trouble locating the source code repositories for plugins is that a lot of the community contributors are not developers, and do not use Github (or any other form of version control). > This is further complicated by the fact

[tw5] Re: Using "Vertical bar" in Tiddler Title

2020-09-17 Thread PMario
On Tuesday, September 15, 2020 at 2:39:45 PM UTC+2, Mohamed Amin wrote: > > Some of YouTube Videos currently using "Vertical Bars" (|) in their titles > (ex. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-MNSLsjjdo). > And as we all know, that character is reserved within TW5, So, What is the > best way to

Re: [tw5] Re: Newcomer struggles

2020-09-17 Thread Saq Imtiaz
Hi Edoardo, Is there any plan to improve on this side? Plugin discovery and updates > seems very manual with lot of potential problems (like version > compatibility). Asking mainly because I may help around that area. > The problem is discussed frequently, but there has never been concensus on

[tw5] Re: The "new" Google Groups, generally, sucks, so far.

2020-09-17 Thread PMario
Hi, There is some info how and "WHAT" you can reply: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/KuQsa0AnuP8/7z9IRoPVGAAJ have fun! -m -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

[tw5] Re: [ Streams ] : feedback and issues

2020-09-17 Thread Keelan Cook
Saq, thanks for the update! All appears to be working as intended for me. On Thursday, September 17, 2020 at 9:58:07 AM UTC-5 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote: > Florian, > > That is a new feature that will be available in the TiddlyWiki core from > version 5.1.23 and is currently available in the

[tw5] Re: Generating links depending on field value

2020-09-17 Thread Darek Bobak
Great, thaks! I didn't come up with an idea to use the $list widget best Darek czwartek, 17 września 2020 o 16:08:38 UTC+2 Eric Shulman napisał(a): > On Thursday, September 17, 2020 at 6:28:00 AM UTC-7, Darek Bobak wrote: >> >> There is a field. Let's say, bibtex-doiuri. >> If the field has any

Re: [tw5] Re: search widget odd behaviour

2020-09-17 Thread Dr. Bob Jansen
Colleagues, just some more experimenting. If I put something into the artwork_id field of TK6 and TK7, for example, "TK2", the result displayed remains TK5, TK6 and TK7. That implies the problem is that search is not correctly matching the field content with the search string. bobj On

[tw5] Re: Generating links depending on field value

2020-09-17 Thread Eric Shulman
On Thursday, September 17, 2020 at 6:28:00 AM UTC-7, Darek Bobak wrote: > > There is a field. Let's say, bibtex-doiuri. > If the field has any value, i'd like to get as an output: > [[DOI|content_of_the_field]] > If the field is empty, i'd like to get nothing. An empty string. > The result should

[tw5] Re: Newcomer struggles

2020-09-17 Thread Edoardo Tenani
PS: it seems I also can't update labels I would have added the "newbie" one otherwise (I followed instructions here ) On Thursday, 17 September 2020 at 16:13:14 UTC+2 Edoardo Tenani wrote: > Hello TW community! > > I'm so pleased to see

[tw5] Re: Roam Research is NOT a model. It's a money machine.

2020-09-17 Thread David Gifford
I guess you will all need to blame me. I was the one who used Roam as a model first, and got this ball rolling. TiddlyBlink/Stroll was just an experiment to see how much of Roam I could replicate in TW. Saq was a big help there. When I saw it worked pretty good I promoted it on Twitter by

[tw5] Re: [ Streams ] : feedback and issues

2020-09-17 Thread Saq Imtiaz
Mike, Have a look at the following link for a macro that will create a static HTML representation of any stream, regardless of depth: https://saqimtiaz.github.io/sq-tw/streams.html#Working%20with%20streams%20tiddlers Regarding exiting edit mode when clicking outside the node, this has come up

[tw5] Newcomer struggles

2020-09-17 Thread Edoardo Tenani
Hello TW community! I'm so pleased to see this project still alive and thriving after so many years I used it for the first time (I guess 8/10 years ago :D) After many years of linear note taking my bag of knowledge require some polishing. I was looking forward to solutions and found Roam,

[tw5] Re: [ Streams ] : feedback and issues

2020-09-17 Thread Michael Wiktowy
Hi Saq, I really like this utility and have immediately incorporated it into my daily log wiki as I wanted to separate things out into tasks anyway and this does it perfectly including a built in time stamp. Some feedback though. Is there a way to change mouse interaction such that the edit

[tw5] Re: [ Streams ] : feedback and issues

2020-09-17 Thread Florian Kohrt
Saq, besides the obvious greatness of your Streams plugin, what I really like in your demo wiki is the ability to open tiddlers from the search bar by hitting Enter. How did you achieve that/how can one implement that in another wiki? It doesn't seem to be included in your plugins... Regards,

[tw5] Re: [ Streams ] : feedback and issues

2020-09-17 Thread Saq Imtiaz
Florian, That is a new feature that will be available in the TiddlyWiki core from version 5.1.23 and is currently available in the pre-release https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/ Cheers, Saq On Thursday, September 17, 2020 at 4:50:21 PM UTC+2 janflor...@gmail.com wrote: > Saq, > > besides

[tw5] Re: Newcomer struggles

2020-09-17 Thread Birthe C
Edoardo, You mentioned Noteself. Have you asked on that forum https://forum.noteself.org/ Noteself is rather special, so you might have other needs for that. Birthe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this