Re: [tw] Re: More elegant way of doing this lexicon?

2017-08-15 Thread Silvercat
Awesome. Thank you! On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 11:49:55 AM UTC-7, Mark S. wrote: > > Yes. The filter needs to change. You can try this for the list-based > english fields: > > <$list filter="[tag[Lexeme]each:list-item[english]sort[]addprefix[en-]]"> > > HTH > Mark > > On Tuesday, August 15,

Re: [tw] Re: More elegant way of doing this lexicon?

2017-08-15 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Yes. The filter needs to change. You can try this for the list-based english fields: <$list filter="[tag[Lexeme]each:list-item[english]sort[]addprefix[en-]]"> HTH Mark On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 11:22:22 AM UTC-7, Silvercat wrote: > > > Is there a data-based reason that you couldn't put all

Re: [tw] Re: More elegant way of doing this lexicon?

2017-08-15 Thread Silvercat
> Is there a data-based reason that you couldn't put all the words in a single english list field (e.g. [[film]] [[dust]] ... etc.) ? Nope. The only reason I did it that way (English, english1, english2) is cuz I don't know what I'm doing. It looks like there needs to be a change to the fil

Re: [tw] Re: More elegant way of doing this lexicon?

2017-08-14 Thread Lydean Works
Ah, I see. I was getting confused cuz I have too many things called english! (tags, fields...) Thanks! On Mon, Aug 14, 2017, 8:40 PM 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki < tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com> wrote: > The problem is that the those items in the nyji language don't have > 'english' fields -- they hav

Re: [tw] Re: More elegant way of doing this lexicon?

2017-08-14 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
The problem is that the those items in the nyji language don't have 'english' fields -- they have english1 and english2 fields. You can fix this in the short term by extending the filter: [tag[Lexeme]each[english]get[english]] [tag[Lexeme]each[english1]get[english1]] [tag[Lexeme]each[english

Re: [tw] Re: More elegant way of doing this lexicon?

2017-08-14 Thread Silvercat
Any idea why film and evil aren't showing up in EnglishIndex? https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2AstAs9QlRjSnhvU1ktWGF0c28 I'm sure it's user error, but I can't see any difference between those two and the three (cat, here, and wrong) that are showing up. On Monday, August 14, 2017 at 11:17:4

Re: [tw] Re: More elegant way of doing this lexicon?

2017-08-14 Thread Silvercat
Thanks! That helps a lot. > About filters, did you look at the tiddler "Introduction to filter notation" at Tiddlywiki.com ? I'm sure it's simpler than Ŋyjichɯn You overestimate my conlanging skills. :D On Friday, August 11, 2017 at 12:15:51 PM UTC-7, Mark S. wrote: > Ok, to make the following

Re: [tw] Re: More elegant way of doing this lexicon?

2017-08-11 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Ok, to make the following work, I made some changes to your en-Cat entry. It looks like: caption: Cat changecount: 5 tags: english Mammal taijin: [[chun]] [[kaŋi]] title: en-cat type: text/vnd.tiddlywiki ;Cat: {{nya{[[chun]]}}} So I added a caption field (Cat), and a taijin (I don't know wha

Re: [tw] Re: More elegant way of doing this lexicon?

2017-08-11 Thread Silvercat
I've got it on google drive here - https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2AstAs9QlRjSnhvU1ktWGF0c28 The pertinent tiddler is EnglishIndex and I'm trying to make it more or less look like the old one at http://www.silversspace.com/conlang/nyji/nyji-lexicon.html#EnglishIndex with the English meani

Re: [tw] Re: More elegant way of doing this lexicon?

2017-08-10 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Something like: <$list filter="[tag[lexeme]each[english]get[english]sort[]"/> Should make your basic english list. With a variety of techniques, you can make the list look more like something you want. If you can make a tiddler that automatically culls and presents the items, do you really nee

Re: [tw] Re: More elegant way of doing this lexicon?

2017-08-10 Thread Silvercat
So any pointers toward telling tw5 to take the 'english' fields from all the tiddlers tagged 'lexeme', match them with the tiddler title fields, alphabetize them by the 'english' fields, and then throw them all in one tiddler? Cuz I'm clueless, sorry. I'm focusing on the 10 or 11 completely com

Re: [tw] Re: More elegant way of doing this lexicon?

2017-08-08 Thread Lydean Works
Not any more, but I have as much time as I need to work on it. If I can get the concept working... On Tue, Aug 8, 2017, 8:38 PM RichardWilliamSmith < richardwilliamsm...@gmail.com> wrote: > A data dictionary is only going to give you 1:1 mappings. I think Mark's > on the right track - each tiddle

Re: [tw] Re: More elegant way of doing this lexicon?

2017-08-08 Thread RichardWilliamSmith
A data dictionary is only going to give you 1:1 mappings. I think Mark's on the right track - each tiddler has as many fields as it needs and each field can contain a list if it needs to. You can write an interface for entering/editing the information and you can transclude it into the view how

Re: [tw] Re: More elegant way of doing this lexicon?

2017-08-08 Thread Lydean Works
I don't have anything right now for the TW5 version. Is there a 101 for doing a data dictionary? On Tue, Aug 8, 2017, 8:21 PM 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki < tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Do you want to have 3 english fields, or would you prefer a single list > field with as many words as rela

Re: [tw] Re: More elegant way of doing this lexicon?

2017-08-08 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Do you want to have 3 english fields, or would you prefer a single list field with as many words as relate (e.g. [[Wordy 1]] [[Wordy 2]] [[Wordy 3]]) ?? You mention EnglishIndex tiddler. Does that mean that you have a data dictionary with english definitions, or were you referring to a group of

Re: [tw] Re: More elegant way of doing this lexicon?

2017-08-08 Thread Silvercat
I'm not worried about *maximum *flexibility as there are just too many parts in an entry. The standard noun has the word, between one and ten meanings; any irregularity; an abbreviated form for deriving words; notes; the spelling, stress, IPA, and phonetic of the singular, plural, and paucal; a

Re: [tw] Re: More elegant way of doing this lexicon?

2017-08-08 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
I would say that for maximum flexibility, instead of fixing the formatting, put the various bits of information into fields. Then use template tiddlers to display the field information as needed. If the information is stored as fields, then you can do things like list English - word - phonetic o

Re: [tw] Re: More elegant way of doing this lexicon?

2017-08-08 Thread Lydean Works
Yes, I did that. I'm working on fixing all the old formatting. There's double because there's the lexicon entry itself then the english index entry. To use Spanish as an example instead of my weirdo language, there'd be the lexicon entries for 'ser' and 'estar' with their definitions, notes, and ex

[tw] Re: More elegant way of doing this lexicon?

2017-08-08 Thread Mat
Silvercat wrote: Any ideas of an easier and better way of doing it? My current method > effectively doubles the number of tiddlers needed and since I have over 300 > words, it's kinda a pain. > Not really clear what "doing it" means, or exactly what you mean with "double" (maybe two tiddlers p