subject:"Re\: \[tw5\] Re\: \[Presenting\]\: STROLL official rollout\!"

MarkS,

Things have been developing so quickly, I think that was the original name,
but now it is $:/.giffmex/sidebar/advancedconfig




On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 4:52 PM 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
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>
>
> On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 10:22:14 AM UTC-7, David Gifford wrote:
>>
>> 1) Wow, that is impossible that nothing comes up when you click on that
>> tag pill.
>>
>
> I don't see "$:/.giffmex/ViewTemplate/titleviewchooser" in TiddlyBlink nor
> Stroll.
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Re: [tw5] Re: [Presenting]: STROLL official rollout!

2020-05-19 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki



On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 10:22:14 AM UTC-7, David Gifford wrote:
>
> 1) Wow, that is impossible that nothing comes up when you click on that 
> tag pill.
>

I don't see "$:/.giffmex/ViewTemplate/titleviewchooser" in TiddlyBlink nor 
Stroll.


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Re: [tw5] Re: [Presenting]: STROLL official rollout!

That fixed it! Thank you!

On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 10:22:14 AM UTC-7, David Gifford wrote:
>
> 1) Wow, that is impossible that nothing comes up when you click on that 
> tag pill.
>
> 2) If you really need to uninstall:
>
> a) click the magnifying glass next to the search window
> b) Filter tab
> c) insert [tag[stroll]]
> d) click the red trashcan
> e) click 'delete these tiddlers
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 12:16 PM Jared Volpe  > wrote:
>
>> Nothing comes up.
>>
>> [image: Screen Shot 2020-05-19 at 10.15.51.png]
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 9:59:08 AM UTC-7, David Gifford wrote:
>>>
>>> Add this to a tiddler: <>
>>>
>>> then click it, and see what tiddlers come up. That should show you if 
>>> there are duplicates, and you can delete one of them.
>>>
>>> David Gifford
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 11:36 AM Jared Volpe  wrote:
>>>
 My sidebar doesn't look broken to you? E.g. The 2 settings tabs. 
 Doesn't that seem odd/broken?

 On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 9:30:06 AM UTC-7, David Gifford wrote:
>
> Jared, 
>
> What exactly do you want your sidebar tabs to look like? It would make 
> more sense to remove tags from tiddlers tagged $:/tags/SideBar than to 
> uninstall and reinstall Stroll.
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 11:21 AM Jared Volpe  
> wrote:
>
>> I'd love to remove my current version of Stroll and then reinstall 
>> it. Can someone share a workflow for doing that? 
>>
>> This is what my sidebar looks like now and I want to reset it.
>>
>> [image: Screen Shot 2020-05-19 at 09.20.35.png]
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, May 7, 2020 at 8:04:17 AM UTC-7, David Gifford wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi everyone
>>>
>>> Stroll is a TiddlyWiki adaptation imitating certain features of Roam 
>>> to help users easily see connections between their notes and navigate 
>>> between them. Features include:
>>>
>>>- bi-directional links, 
>>>- autocompletion when linking, 
>>>- renaming of links upon changing tiddler titles, 
>>>- side-by-side editing of multiple notes. 
>>>
>>> Stroll is the successor to TiddlyBlink. I do not plan to update 
>>> TiddlyBlink (or its cousin Idea Stew) from here on out, except may be 
>>> to 
>>> upgrade to new versions of TiddlyWiki.
>>>
>>> I have uploaded Stroll to its official home: 
>>> https://giffmex.org/stroll/stroll.html.
>>>
>>> I am hoping that its detailed tutorial will help introduce 
>>> TiddlyWiki to a new generation of non-techy users. I am also hoping 
>>> that 
>>> its similarity to Roam will make it attractive to those who enjoy Roam 
>>> but 
>>> are concerned about privacy issues for some of their information, or 
>>> who 
>>> won't be able to afford Roam when it begins charging a subscription.
>>>
>>> Thank you to everyone who gave me feedback during the experimental 
>>> phase, and especially to Saq Imtiaz for creating and adapting his 
>>> Stories 
>>> plugin for Stroll's needs. And thanks to all of you *in advance* 
>>> for your continued feedback and your promotion of Stroll as an easy way 
>>> of 
>>> getting people added to the TiddlyWiki community.
>>>
>>> Blessings.
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Re: [tw5] Re: [Presenting]: STROLL official rollout!

I think advancedconfig and titleview chooser are the two that are similar.
Pick the one with more options and delete the other.




On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 12:26 PM Jared Volpe  wrote:

> There aren't any duplicates...
>
> [image: Screen Shot 2020-05-19 at 10.17.53.png]
>
>
> On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 9:59:08 AM UTC-7, David Gifford wrote:
>>
>> Add this to a tiddler: <>
>>
>> then click it, and see what tiddlers come up. That should show you if
>> there are duplicates, and you can delete one of them.
>>
>> David Gifford
>>
>> On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 11:36 AM Jared Volpe  wrote:
>>
>>> My sidebar doesn't look broken to you? E.g. The 2 settings tabs. Doesn't
>>> that seem odd/broken?
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 9:30:06 AM UTC-7, David Gifford wrote:

 Jared,

 What exactly do you want your sidebar tabs to look like? It would make
 more sense to remove tags from tiddlers tagged $:/tags/SideBar than to
 uninstall and reinstall Stroll.




 On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 11:21 AM Jared Volpe 
 wrote:

> I'd love to remove my current version of Stroll and then reinstall it.
> Can someone share a workflow for doing that?
>
> This is what my sidebar looks like now and I want to reset it.
>
> [image: Screen Shot 2020-05-19 at 09.20.35.png]
>
>
> On Thursday, May 7, 2020 at 8:04:17 AM UTC-7, David Gifford wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone
>>
>> Stroll is a TiddlyWiki adaptation imitating certain features of Roam
>> to help users easily see connections between their notes and navigate
>> between them. Features include:
>>
>>- bi-directional links,
>>- autocompletion when linking,
>>- renaming of links upon changing tiddler titles,
>>- side-by-side editing of multiple notes.
>>
>> Stroll is the successor to TiddlyBlink. I do not plan to update
>> TiddlyBlink (or its cousin Idea Stew) from here on out, except may be to
>> upgrade to new versions of TiddlyWiki.
>>
>> I have uploaded Stroll to its official home:
>> https://giffmex.org/stroll/stroll.html.
>>
>> I am hoping that its detailed tutorial will help introduce TiddlyWiki
>> to a new generation of non-techy users. I am also hoping that its
>> similarity to Roam will make it attractive to those who enjoy Roam but 
>> are
>> concerned about privacy issues for some of their information, or who 
>> won't
>> be able to afford Roam when it begins charging a subscription.
>>
>> Thank you to everyone who gave me feedback during the experimental
>> phase, and especially to Saq Imtiaz for creating and adapting his Stories
>> plugin for Stroll's needs. And thanks to all of you *in advance* for
>> your continued feedback and your promotion of Stroll as an easy way of
>> getting people added to the TiddlyWiki community.
>>
>> Blessings.
>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: [Presenting]: STROLL official rollout!

1) Wow, that is impossible that nothing comes up when you click on that tag
pill.

2) If you really need to uninstall:

a) click the magnifying glass next to the search window
b) Filter tab
c) insert [tag[stroll]]
d) click the red trashcan
e) click 'delete these tiddlers






On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 12:16 PM Jared Volpe  wrote:

> Nothing comes up.
>
> [image: Screen Shot 2020-05-19 at 10.15.51.png]
>
>
> On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 9:59:08 AM UTC-7, David Gifford wrote:
>>
>> Add this to a tiddler: <>
>>
>> then click it, and see what tiddlers come up. That should show you if
>> there are duplicates, and you can delete one of them.
>>
>> David Gifford
>>
>> On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 11:36 AM Jared Volpe  wrote:
>>
>>> My sidebar doesn't look broken to you? E.g. The 2 settings tabs. Doesn't
>>> that seem odd/broken?
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 9:30:06 AM UTC-7, David Gifford wrote:

 Jared,

 What exactly do you want your sidebar tabs to look like? It would make
 more sense to remove tags from tiddlers tagged $:/tags/SideBar than to
 uninstall and reinstall Stroll.




 On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 11:21 AM Jared Volpe 
 wrote:

> I'd love to remove my current version of Stroll and then reinstall it.
> Can someone share a workflow for doing that?
>
> This is what my sidebar looks like now and I want to reset it.
>
> [image: Screen Shot 2020-05-19 at 09.20.35.png]
>
>
> On Thursday, May 7, 2020 at 8:04:17 AM UTC-7, David Gifford wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone
>>
>> Stroll is a TiddlyWiki adaptation imitating certain features of Roam
>> to help users easily see connections between their notes and navigate
>> between them. Features include:
>>
>>- bi-directional links,
>>- autocompletion when linking,
>>- renaming of links upon changing tiddler titles,
>>- side-by-side editing of multiple notes.
>>
>> Stroll is the successor to TiddlyBlink. I do not plan to update
>> TiddlyBlink (or its cousin Idea Stew) from here on out, except may be to
>> upgrade to new versions of TiddlyWiki.
>>
>> I have uploaded Stroll to its official home:
>> https://giffmex.org/stroll/stroll.html.
>>
>> I am hoping that its detailed tutorial will help introduce TiddlyWiki
>> to a new generation of non-techy users. I am also hoping that its
>> similarity to Roam will make it attractive to those who enjoy Roam but 
>> are
>> concerned about privacy issues for some of their information, or who 
>> won't
>> be able to afford Roam when it begins charging a subscription.
>>
>> Thank you to everyone who gave me feedback during the experimental
>> phase, and especially to Saq Imtiaz for creating and adapting his Stories
>> plugin for Stroll's needs. And thanks to all of you *in advance* for
>> your continued feedback and your promotion of Stroll as an easy way of
>> getting people added to the TiddlyWiki community.
>>
>> Blessings.
>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: [Presenting]: STROLL official rollout!

Could this be because in installed Stroll and Blinks?

On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 10:18:39 AM UTC-7, Jared Volpe wrote:
>
> There aren't any duplicates...
>
> [image: Screen Shot 2020-05-19 at 10.17.53.png]
>
>
> On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 9:59:08 AM UTC-7, David Gifford wrote:
>>
>> Add this to a tiddler: <>
>>
>> then click it, and see what tiddlers come up. That should show you if 
>> there are duplicates, and you can delete one of them.
>>
>> David Gifford
>>
>> On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 11:36 AM Jared Volpe  wrote:
>>
>>> My sidebar doesn't look broken to you? E.g. The 2 settings tabs. Doesn't 
>>> that seem odd/broken?
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 9:30:06 AM UTC-7, David Gifford wrote:

 Jared, 

 What exactly do you want your sidebar tabs to look like? It would make 
 more sense to remove tags from tiddlers tagged $:/tags/SideBar than to 
 uninstall and reinstall Stroll.




 On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 11:21 AM Jared Volpe  
 wrote:

> I'd love to remove my current version of Stroll and then reinstall it. 
> Can someone share a workflow for doing that? 
>
> This is what my sidebar looks like now and I want to reset it.
>
> [image: Screen Shot 2020-05-19 at 09.20.35.png]
>
>
> On Thursday, May 7, 2020 at 8:04:17 AM UTC-7, David Gifford wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone
>>
>> Stroll is a TiddlyWiki adaptation imitating certain features of Roam 
>> to help users easily see connections between their notes and navigate 
>> between them. Features include:
>>
>>- bi-directional links, 
>>- autocompletion when linking, 
>>- renaming of links upon changing tiddler titles, 
>>- side-by-side editing of multiple notes. 
>>
>> Stroll is the successor to TiddlyBlink. I do not plan to update 
>> TiddlyBlink (or its cousin Idea Stew) from here on out, except may be to 
>> upgrade to new versions of TiddlyWiki.
>>
>> I have uploaded Stroll to its official home: 
>> https://giffmex.org/stroll/stroll.html.
>>
>> I am hoping that its detailed tutorial will help introduce TiddlyWiki 
>> to a new generation of non-techy users. I am also hoping that its 
>> similarity to Roam will make it attractive to those who enjoy Roam but 
>> are 
>> concerned about privacy issues for some of their information, or who 
>> won't 
>> be able to afford Roam when it begins charging a subscription.
>>
>> Thank you to everyone who gave me feedback during the experimental 
>> phase, and especially to Saq Imtiaz for creating and adapting his 
>> Stories 
>> plugin for Stroll's needs. And thanks to all of you *in advance* for 
>> your continued feedback and your promotion of Stroll as an easy way of 
>> getting people added to the TiddlyWiki community.
>>
>> Blessings.
>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: [Presenting]: STROLL official rollout!



There aren't any duplicates...

[image: Screen Shot 2020-05-19 at 10.17.53.png]


On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 9:59:08 AM UTC-7, David Gifford wrote:
>
> Add this to a tiddler: <>
>
> then click it, and see what tiddlers come up. That should show you if 
> there are duplicates, and you can delete one of them.
>
> David Gifford
>
> On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 11:36 AM Jared Volpe  > wrote:
>
>> My sidebar doesn't look broken to you? E.g. The 2 settings tabs. Doesn't 
>> that seem odd/broken?
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 9:30:06 AM UTC-7, David Gifford wrote:
>>>
>>> Jared, 
>>>
>>> What exactly do you want your sidebar tabs to look like? It would make 
>>> more sense to remove tags from tiddlers tagged $:/tags/SideBar than to 
>>> uninstall and reinstall Stroll.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 11:21 AM Jared Volpe  wrote:
>>>
 I'd love to remove my current version of Stroll and then reinstall it. 
 Can someone share a workflow for doing that? 

 This is what my sidebar looks like now and I want to reset it.

 [image: Screen Shot 2020-05-19 at 09.20.35.png]


 On Thursday, May 7, 2020 at 8:04:17 AM UTC-7, David Gifford wrote:
>
> Hi everyone
>
> Stroll is a TiddlyWiki adaptation imitating certain features of Roam 
> to help users easily see connections between their notes and navigate 
> between them. Features include:
>
>- bi-directional links, 
>- autocompletion when linking, 
>- renaming of links upon changing tiddler titles, 
>- side-by-side editing of multiple notes. 
>
> Stroll is the successor to TiddlyBlink. I do not plan to update 
> TiddlyBlink (or its cousin Idea Stew) from here on out, except may be to 
> upgrade to new versions of TiddlyWiki.
>
> I have uploaded Stroll to its official home: 
> https://giffmex.org/stroll/stroll.html.
>
> I am hoping that its detailed tutorial will help introduce TiddlyWiki 
> to a new generation of non-techy users. I am also hoping that its 
> similarity to Roam will make it attractive to those who enjoy Roam but 
> are 
> concerned about privacy issues for some of their information, or who 
> won't 
> be able to afford Roam when it begins charging a subscription.
>
> Thank you to everyone who gave me feedback during the experimental 
> phase, and especially to Saq Imtiaz for creating and adapting his Stories 
> plugin for Stroll's needs. And thanks to all of you *in advance* for 
> your continued feedback and your promotion of Stroll as an easy way of 
> getting people added to the TiddlyWiki community.
>
> Blessings.
>
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Re: [tw5] Re: [Presenting]: STROLL official rollout!

Nothing comes up.

[image: Screen Shot 2020-05-19 at 10.15.51.png]


On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 9:59:08 AM UTC-7, David Gifford wrote:
>
> Add this to a tiddler: <>
>
> then click it, and see what tiddlers come up. That should show you if 
> there are duplicates, and you can delete one of them.
>
> David Gifford
>
> On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 11:36 AM Jared Volpe  > wrote:
>
>> My sidebar doesn't look broken to you? E.g. The 2 settings tabs. Doesn't 
>> that seem odd/broken?
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 9:30:06 AM UTC-7, David Gifford wrote:
>>>
>>> Jared, 
>>>
>>> What exactly do you want your sidebar tabs to look like? It would make 
>>> more sense to remove tags from tiddlers tagged $:/tags/SideBar than to 
>>> uninstall and reinstall Stroll.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 11:21 AM Jared Volpe  wrote:
>>>
 I'd love to remove my current version of Stroll and then reinstall it. 
 Can someone share a workflow for doing that? 

 This is what my sidebar looks like now and I want to reset it.

 [image: Screen Shot 2020-05-19 at 09.20.35.png]


 On Thursday, May 7, 2020 at 8:04:17 AM UTC-7, David Gifford wrote:
>
> Hi everyone
>
> Stroll is a TiddlyWiki adaptation imitating certain features of Roam 
> to help users easily see connections between their notes and navigate 
> between them. Features include:
>
>- bi-directional links, 
>- autocompletion when linking, 
>- renaming of links upon changing tiddler titles, 
>- side-by-side editing of multiple notes. 
>
> Stroll is the successor to TiddlyBlink. I do not plan to update 
> TiddlyBlink (or its cousin Idea Stew) from here on out, except may be to 
> upgrade to new versions of TiddlyWiki.
>
> I have uploaded Stroll to its official home: 
> https://giffmex.org/stroll/stroll.html.
>
> I am hoping that its detailed tutorial will help introduce TiddlyWiki 
> to a new generation of non-techy users. I am also hoping that its 
> similarity to Roam will make it attractive to those who enjoy Roam but 
> are 
> concerned about privacy issues for some of their information, or who 
> won't 
> be able to afford Roam when it begins charging a subscription.
>
> Thank you to everyone who gave me feedback during the experimental 
> phase, and especially to Saq Imtiaz for creating and adapting his Stories 
> plugin for Stroll's needs. And thanks to all of you *in advance* for 
> your continued feedback and your promotion of Stroll as an easy way of 
> getting people added to the TiddlyWiki community.
>
> Blessings.
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Re: [tw5] Re: [Presenting]: STROLL official rollout!

They aren't. And all of the colors are borked too. I'd really like to start 
fresh. Again, not blow away my content but blow away Stroll and other 
customizations (not plugins) and then reinstall.

[image: Screen Shot 2020-05-19 at 10.13.49.png]

[image: Screen Shot 2020-05-19 at 10.13.55.png]


On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 9:54:25 AM UTC-7, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Are the contents of the two settings identical?
>
> The tag you want to look for is
>
> $:/tags/SideBar
>
> On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 9:36:26 AM UTC-7, Jared Volpe wrote:
>>
>> My sidebar doesn't look broken to you? E.g. The 2 settings tabs. Doesn't 
>> that seem odd/broken?
>>
>> Also, I looked at my tags list and I don't see a tag "SideBar"
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 9:30:06 AM UTC-7, David Gifford wrote:
>>>
>>> Jared, 
>>>
>>> What exactly do you want your sidebar tabs to look like? It would make 
>>> more sense to remove tags from tiddlers tagged $:/tags/SideBar than to 
>>> uninstall and reinstall Stroll.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 11:21 AM Jared Volpe  wrote:
>>>
 I'd love to remove my current version of Stroll and then reinstall it. 
 Can someone share a workflow for doing that? 

 This is what my sidebar looks like now and I want to reset it.

 [image: Screen Shot 2020-05-19 at 09.20.35.png]


 On Thursday, May 7, 2020 at 8:04:17 AM UTC-7, David Gifford wrote:
>
> Hi everyone
>
> Stroll is a TiddlyWiki adaptation imitating certain features of Roam 
> to help users easily see connections between their notes and navigate 
> between them. Features include:
>
>- bi-directional links, 
>- autocompletion when linking, 
>- renaming of links upon changing tiddler titles, 
>- side-by-side editing of multiple notes. 
>
> Stroll is the successor to TiddlyBlink. I do not plan to update 
> TiddlyBlink (or its cousin Idea Stew) from here on out, except may be to 
> upgrade to new versions of TiddlyWiki.
>
> I have uploaded Stroll to its official home: 
> https://giffmex.org/stroll/stroll.html.
>
> I am hoping that its detailed tutorial will help introduce TiddlyWiki 
> to a new generation of non-techy users. I am also hoping that its 
> similarity to Roam will make it attractive to those who enjoy Roam but 
> are 
> concerned about privacy issues for some of their information, or who 
> won't 
> be able to afford Roam when it begins charging a subscription.
>
> Thank you to everyone who gave me feedback during the experimental 
> phase, and especially to Saq Imtiaz for creating and adapting his Stories 
> plugin for Stroll's needs. And thanks to all of you *in advance* for 
> your continued feedback and your promotion of Stroll as an easy way of 
> getting people added to the TiddlyWiki community.
>
> Blessings.
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Re: [tw5] Re: [Presenting]: STROLL official rollout!

Add this to a tiddler: <>

then click it, and see what tiddlers come up. That should show you if there
are duplicates, and you can delete one of them.

David Gifford

On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 11:36 AM Jared Volpe  wrote:

> My sidebar doesn't look broken to you? E.g. The 2 settings tabs. Doesn't
> that seem odd/broken?
>
> On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 9:30:06 AM UTC-7, David Gifford wrote:
>>
>> Jared,
>>
>> What exactly do you want your sidebar tabs to look like? It would make
>> more sense to remove tags from tiddlers tagged $:/tags/SideBar than to
>> uninstall and reinstall Stroll.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 11:21 AM Jared Volpe  wrote:
>>
>>> I'd love to remove my current version of Stroll and then reinstall it.
>>> Can someone share a workflow for doing that?
>>>
>>> This is what my sidebar looks like now and I want to reset it.
>>>
>>> [image: Screen Shot 2020-05-19 at 09.20.35.png]
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, May 7, 2020 at 8:04:17 AM UTC-7, David Gifford wrote:

 Hi everyone

 Stroll is a TiddlyWiki adaptation imitating certain features of Roam to
 help users easily see connections between their notes and navigate between
 them. Features include:

- bi-directional links,
- autocompletion when linking,
- renaming of links upon changing tiddler titles,
- side-by-side editing of multiple notes.

 Stroll is the successor to TiddlyBlink. I do not plan to update
 TiddlyBlink (or its cousin Idea Stew) from here on out, except may be to
 upgrade to new versions of TiddlyWiki.

 I have uploaded Stroll to its official home:
 https://giffmex.org/stroll/stroll.html.

 I am hoping that its detailed tutorial will help introduce TiddlyWiki
 to a new generation of non-techy users. I am also hoping that its
 similarity to Roam will make it attractive to those who enjoy Roam but are
 concerned about privacy issues for some of their information, or who won't
 be able to afford Roam when it begins charging a subscription.

 Thank you to everyone who gave me feedback during the experimental
 phase, and especially to Saq Imtiaz for creating and adapting his Stories
 plugin for Stroll's needs. And thanks to all of you *in advance* for
 your continued feedback and your promotion of Stroll as an easy way of
 getting people added to the TiddlyWiki community.

 Blessings.

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Re: [tw5] Re: [Presenting]: STROLL official rollout!

2020-05-19 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki

Are the contents of the two settings identical?

The tag you want to look for is

$:/tags/SideBar

On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 9:36:26 AM UTC-7, Jared Volpe wrote:
>
> My sidebar doesn't look broken to you? E.g. The 2 settings tabs. Doesn't 
> that seem odd/broken?
>
> Also, I looked at my tags list and I don't see a tag "SideBar"
>
> On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 9:30:06 AM UTC-7, David Gifford wrote:
>>
>> Jared, 
>>
>> What exactly do you want your sidebar tabs to look like? It would make 
>> more sense to remove tags from tiddlers tagged $:/tags/SideBar than to 
>> uninstall and reinstall Stroll.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 11:21 AM Jared Volpe  wrote:
>>
>>> I'd love to remove my current version of Stroll and then reinstall it. 
>>> Can someone share a workflow for doing that? 
>>>
>>> This is what my sidebar looks like now and I want to reset it.
>>>
>>> [image: Screen Shot 2020-05-19 at 09.20.35.png]
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, May 7, 2020 at 8:04:17 AM UTC-7, David Gifford wrote:

 Hi everyone

 Stroll is a TiddlyWiki adaptation imitating certain features of Roam to 
 help users easily see connections between their notes and navigate between 
 them. Features include:

- bi-directional links, 
- autocompletion when linking, 
- renaming of links upon changing tiddler titles, 
- side-by-side editing of multiple notes. 

 Stroll is the successor to TiddlyBlink. I do not plan to update 
 TiddlyBlink (or its cousin Idea Stew) from here on out, except may be to 
 upgrade to new versions of TiddlyWiki.

 I have uploaded Stroll to its official home: 
 https://giffmex.org/stroll/stroll.html.

 I am hoping that its detailed tutorial will help introduce TiddlyWiki 
 to a new generation of non-techy users. I am also hoping that its 
 similarity to Roam will make it attractive to those who enjoy Roam but are 
 concerned about privacy issues for some of their information, or who won't 
 be able to afford Roam when it begins charging a subscription.

 Thank you to everyone who gave me feedback during the experimental 
 phase, and especially to Saq Imtiaz for creating and adapting his Stories 
 plugin for Stroll's needs. And thanks to all of you *in advance* for 
 your continued feedback and your promotion of Stroll as an easy way of 
 getting people added to the TiddlyWiki community.

 Blessings.

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Re: [tw5] Re: [Presenting]: STROLL official rollout!

My sidebar doesn't look broken to you? E.g. The 2 settings tabs. Doesn't 
that seem odd/broken?

On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 9:30:06 AM UTC-7, David Gifford wrote:
>
> Jared, 
>
> What exactly do you want your sidebar tabs to look like? It would make 
> more sense to remove tags from tiddlers tagged $:/tags/SideBar than to 
> uninstall and reinstall Stroll.
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 11:21 AM Jared Volpe  > wrote:
>
>> I'd love to remove my current version of Stroll and then reinstall it. 
>> Can someone share a workflow for doing that? 
>>
>> This is what my sidebar looks like now and I want to reset it.
>>
>> [image: Screen Shot 2020-05-19 at 09.20.35.png]
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, May 7, 2020 at 8:04:17 AM UTC-7, David Gifford wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi everyone
>>>
>>> Stroll is a TiddlyWiki adaptation imitating certain features of Roam to 
>>> help users easily see connections between their notes and navigate between 
>>> them. Features include:
>>>
>>>- bi-directional links, 
>>>- autocompletion when linking, 
>>>- renaming of links upon changing tiddler titles, 
>>>- side-by-side editing of multiple notes. 
>>>
>>> Stroll is the successor to TiddlyBlink. I do not plan to update 
>>> TiddlyBlink (or its cousin Idea Stew) from here on out, except may be to 
>>> upgrade to new versions of TiddlyWiki.
>>>
>>> I have uploaded Stroll to its official home: 
>>> https://giffmex.org/stroll/stroll.html.
>>>
>>> I am hoping that its detailed tutorial will help introduce TiddlyWiki to 
>>> a new generation of non-techy users. I am also hoping that its similarity 
>>> to Roam will make it attractive to those who enjoy Roam but are concerned 
>>> about privacy issues for some of their information, or who won't be able to 
>>> afford Roam when it begins charging a subscription.
>>>
>>> Thank you to everyone who gave me feedback during the experimental 
>>> phase, and especially to Saq Imtiaz for creating and adapting his Stories 
>>> plugin for Stroll's needs. And thanks to all of you *in advance* for 
>>> your continued feedback and your promotion of Stroll as an easy way of 
>>> getting people added to the TiddlyWiki community.
>>>
>>> Blessings.
>>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: [Presenting]: STROLL official rollout!

Jared,

What exactly do you want your sidebar tabs to look like? It would make more
sense to remove tags from tiddlers tagged $:/tags/SideBar than to uninstall
and reinstall Stroll.




On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 11:21 AM Jared Volpe  wrote:

> I'd love to remove my current version of Stroll and then reinstall it. Can
> someone share a workflow for doing that?
>
> This is what my sidebar looks like now and I want to reset it.
>
> [image: Screen Shot 2020-05-19 at 09.20.35.png]
>
>
> On Thursday, May 7, 2020 at 8:04:17 AM UTC-7, David Gifford wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone
>>
>> Stroll is a TiddlyWiki adaptation imitating certain features of Roam to
>> help users easily see connections between their notes and navigate between
>> them. Features include:
>>
>>- bi-directional links,
>>- autocompletion when linking,
>>- renaming of links upon changing tiddler titles,
>>- side-by-side editing of multiple notes.
>>
>> Stroll is the successor to TiddlyBlink. I do not plan to update
>> TiddlyBlink (or its cousin Idea Stew) from here on out, except may be to
>> upgrade to new versions of TiddlyWiki.
>>
>> I have uploaded Stroll to its official home:
>> https://giffmex.org/stroll/stroll.html.
>>
>> I am hoping that its detailed tutorial will help introduce TiddlyWiki to
>> a new generation of non-techy users. I am also hoping that its similarity
>> to Roam will make it attractive to those who enjoy Roam but are concerned
>> about privacy issues for some of their information, or who won't be able to
>> afford Roam when it begins charging a subscription.
>>
>> Thank you to everyone who gave me feedback during the experimental phase,
>> and especially to Saq Imtiaz for creating and adapting his Stories plugin
>> for Stroll's needs. And thanks to all of you *in advance* for your
>> continued feedback and your promotion of Stroll as an easy way of getting
>> people added to the TiddlyWiki community.
>>
>> Blessings.
>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: [Presenting]: STROLL official rollout!

2020-05-17 Thread David Gifford

Yes, see https://giffmex.org/stroll/stroll.html, new Troubleshooting tab.




On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 9:34 AM Nick  wrote:

> Loving Stroll + TiddlyMap. I would really like to use Codemirror and
> Markdown, but then I apparently lose the link autocompletion - or has
> someone found a way of making all this work?
>
> Thanks
>
> Nick
>
> On Thursday, 7 May 2020 16:04:17 UTC+1, David Gifford wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone
>>
>> Stroll is a TiddlyWiki adaptation imitating certain features of Roam to
>> help users easily see connections between their notes and navigate between
>> them. Features include:
>>
>>- bi-directional links,
>>- autocompletion when linking,
>>- renaming of links upon changing tiddler titles,
>>- side-by-side editing of multiple notes.
>>
>> Stroll is the successor to TiddlyBlink. I do not plan to update
>> TiddlyBlink (or its cousin Idea Stew) from here on out, except may be to
>> upgrade to new versions of TiddlyWiki.
>>
>> I have uploaded Stroll to its official home:
>> https://giffmex.org/stroll/stroll.html.
>>
>> I am hoping that its detailed tutorial will help introduce TiddlyWiki to
>> a new generation of non-techy users. I am also hoping that its similarity
>> to Roam will make it attractive to those who enjoy Roam but are concerned
>> about privacy issues for some of their information, or who won't be able to
>> afford Roam when it begins charging a subscription.
>>
>> Thank you to everyone who gave me feedback during the experimental phase,
>> and especially to Saq Imtiaz for creating and adapting his Stories plugin
>> for Stroll's needs. And thanks to all of you *in advance* for your
>> continued feedback and your promotion of Stroll as an easy way of getting
>> people added to the TiddlyWiki community.
>>
>> Blessings.
>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: [Presenting]: STROLL official rollout!

2020-05-17 Thread Nick

I fixed this by starting with empty node TW5, drag+drop Stroll from 
giffmex, drag and drop 4 bits of TiddlyMap.

Then go to More > Shadow tiddlers > 
*$:/plugins/felixhayashi/tiddlymap/hook/editor* and click to open it. Edit 
it, and add 
\define lingo-base() $:/language/ThemeTweaks/
<$select tiddler="$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/options/sidebarlayout"><><>
after the first line so that the tiddler looks like:
\define width() calc(100% - 15px)
\define lingo-base() $:/language/ThemeTweaks/


<$select tiddler="$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/options/sidebarlayout"><><>



  
The editor is not displayed in mobile mode.
  


  <$tiddlymap
class="tmap-sidebar-map-editor"
editor="advanced"
object-id="main_editor"
click-to-use="false">
  


However - you can just set Sidebar layout to Fluid Story, Fixed Sidebar and 
it works anyway? Or am I missing something?

Thanks so much Dave for Stroll and TiddlyMap integration - it's truly 
amazing. RoamResearch has a very odd approach to customer care which don't 
encourage me to give them my data or money.

Nick

On Sunday, 17 May 2020 01:57:00 UTC+1, David Gifford wrote:
>
> Yeah, I have to appeal to those who know more than I do, to help you 
> figure out what is happening.  Are you doing it manually in GitHub? Are 
> those /n's yours? 
>
> I added the snippet with no problem on a standalone Stroll (attached).
>
> David Gifford
> Mexico team leader, Mexico City
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>
>
> On Sat, May 16, 2020 at 7:50 PM Reet Pandher  > wrote:
>
>> Hi Dave,
>>
>> Sorry to bother you again. 
>> Now i am getting this error: 
>> *SyntaxError: JSON.parse: expected ',' or '}' after property value in 
>> object at line 539 column 4 of the JSON data*
>>
>> For comparison this is what the code looks like now:
>>
>> "$:/plugins/felixhayashi/tiddlymap/hook/editor": {
>> "title": "$:/plugins/felixhayashi/tiddlymap/hook/editor",
>> "caption": "Map",
>> "tags": "$:/tags/SideBar",
>> "text": "\\define width() calc(100% - 15px)\n\n> class=\"tmap-mobile-editor\">\n  > tmap-warning\">\nThe editor is not displayed in mobile mode.\n  
>> \n\n\n  <$tiddlymap\n
>> class=\"tmap-sidebar-map-editor\"\neditor=\"advanced\"\n
>> object-id=\"main_editor\"\nclick-to-use=\"false\">\n  
>> \n"
>> \define lingo-base() $:/language/ThemeTweaks/
>>
>> <$select 
>> tiddler="$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/options/sidebarlayout">> value="fixed-fluid"><> Options/SidebarLayout/Fixed-Fluid>>> value="fluid-fixed"><> Options/SidebarLayout/Fluid-Fixed>>
>> },
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, May 17, 2020 at 12:10:34 AM UTC+5:30, David Gifford wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Rert
>>>
>>> Try pasting it on the line AFTER the first line, not at the end of the 
>>> first line. I guess I need to make that clearer.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 16, 2020 at 12:48 PM Reet Pandher  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi Dave,
 I tried the fix for TiddlyMap.
 I am getting the following error:
 *SyntaxError: JSON.parse: bad escaped character at line 538 column 57 
 of the JSON data*.

 I tried it with 5 different copies of my original file. I tried editing 
 the tiddler in TiddlyDesktop as well as in Firefox and Chrome. The result 
 is the same. After saving the file breaks.
 This is the process i followed:
 Go to Options> Plugins> Open *$:/plugins/felixhayashi/tiddlymap* 
 Tiddler> Edit and Save the tiddler.

 Here is *where i pasted *the code:

 "$:/plugins/felixhayashi/tiddlymap/hook/editor": {
 "title": "$:/plugins/felixhayashi/tiddlymap/hook/editor",
 "caption": "Map",
 "tags": "$:/tags/SideBar",
 "text": "\\define width() calc(100% - 15px)
 *I_PASTED_THE_CODE_HERE*\n\n\n  >>> class=\"tmap-flash-message tmap-warning\">\nThe editor is not 
 displayed 
 in mobile mode.\n  \n\n\n  
 <$tiddlymap\nclass=\"tmap-sidebar-map-editor\"\n
 editor=\"advanced\"\nobject-id=\"main_editor\"\n
 click-to-use=\"false\">\n  \n"
 },

 If you copy paste the *$:/plugins/felixhayashi/tiddlymap* Tiddler text 
 into Notepad++ this block of code is in line 534 - 539


 Here is *what it looked like with the code pasted *in:

 "$:/plugins/felixhayashi/tiddlymap/hook/editor": {
 "title": "$:/plugins/felixhayashi/tiddlymap/hook/editor",
 "caption": "Map",
 "tags": "$:/tags/SideBar",
 "text": "\\define width() calc(100% - 15px)\define 
 lingo-base() $:/language/ThemeTweaks/

 <$select 
 tiddler="$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/options/sidebarlayout" value="fixed-fluid"><>>> Options/SidebarLayout/Fixed-Fluid> value="fluid-fixed"><>>> Options/SidebarLayout/Fluid-Fixed>>\n\n>>>

Re: [tw5] Re: [Presenting]: STROLL official rollout!

2020-05-17 Thread David Gifford

oops, sorry I forgot to delete my email signature section before hitting
send, I know some people get offended by that.




On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 9:15 AM David Gifford  wrote:

> Okay, I will add that next week. Good suggestion, thanks!
>
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> On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 9:14 AM Reet Pandher 
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>> *[[Feature Request]]*
>>
>> If possible please add a collapse button for *Highlights in Context*
>> option.
>>
>> Thanks!
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Re: [tw5] Re: [Presenting]: STROLL official rollout!

2020-05-17 Thread David Gifford

Okay, I will add that next week. Good suggestion, thanks!

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Re: [tw5] Re: [Presenting]: STROLL official rollout!

Hi Dave, Just wanted to let you know that the stroll that you have linked 
in your comment is working perfectly.
So here's an idea.. why not provide a download option for an empty stroll 
with tiddlymap configured with the modified code on the stroll website.
That'd be amazing!!

Thanks
Reet

On Sunday, May 17, 2020 at 6:27:00 AM UTC+5:30, David Gifford wrote:
>
> Yeah, I have to appeal to those who know more than I do, to help you 
> figure out what is happening.  Are you doing it manually in GitHub? Are 
> those /n's yours? 
>
> I added the snippet with no problem on a standalone Stroll (attached).
>
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Re: [tw5] Re: [Presenting]: STROLL official rollout!

Hi Dave,

No worries. I can work with what i've got. 
Regarding the /n in the code i haven't changed or added anything(apart from 
the fix for tiddlymap). Perhaps our code is a bit different because i am 
using TiddlyDesktop and the process of installing TiddyMap is a bit 
different in TiddlyDesktop ( See: http://tiddlymap.org/#Common%20Pitfalls)
Anyways, Thanks a lot for your time and effort.

On Sunday, May 17, 2020 at 6:27:00 AM UTC+5:30, David Gifford wrote:
>
> Yeah, I have to appeal to those who know more than I do, to help you 
> figure out what is happening.  Are you doing it manually in GitHub? Are 
> those /n's yours? 
>
> I added the snippet with no problem on a standalone Stroll (attached).
>
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Re: [tw5] Re: [Presenting]: STROLL official rollout!

Hi Dave,

Sorry to bother you again. 
Now i am getting this error: 
*SyntaxError: JSON.parse: expected ',' or '}' after property value in 
object at line 539 column 4 of the JSON data*

For comparison this is what the code looks like now:

"$:/plugins/felixhayashi/tiddlymap/hook/editor": {
"title": "$:/plugins/felixhayashi/tiddlymap/hook/editor",
"caption": "Map",
"tags": "$:/tags/SideBar",
"text": "\\define width() calc(100% - 15px)\n\n\n  \nThe editor is not displayed in mobile mode.\n  
\n\n\n  <$tiddlymap\n
class=\"tmap-sidebar-map-editor\"\neditor=\"advanced\"\n
object-id=\"main_editor\"\nclick-to-use=\"false\">\n  
\n"
\define lingo-base() $:/language/ThemeTweaks/

<$select 
tiddler="$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/options/sidebarlayout"><><>
},


On Sunday, May 17, 2020 at 12:10:34 AM UTC+5:30, David Gifford wrote:
>
> Hi Rert
>
> Try pasting it on the line AFTER the first line, not at the end of the 
> first line. I guess I need to make that clearer.
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 16, 2020 at 12:48 PM Reet Pandher  > wrote:
>
>> Hi Dave,
>> I tried the fix for TiddlyMap.
>> I am getting the following error:
>> *SyntaxError: JSON.parse: bad escaped character at line 538 column 57 of 
>> the JSON data*.
>>
>> I tried it with 5 different copies of my original file. I tried editing 
>> the tiddler in TiddlyDesktop as well as in Firefox and Chrome. The result 
>> is the same. After saving the file breaks.
>> This is the process i followed:
>> Go to Options> Plugins> Open *$:/plugins/felixhayashi/tiddlymap* 
>> Tiddler> Edit and Save the tiddler.
>>
>> Here is *where i pasted *the code:
>>
>> "$:/plugins/felixhayashi/tiddlymap/hook/editor": {
>> "title": "$:/plugins/felixhayashi/tiddlymap/hook/editor",
>> "caption": "Map",
>> "tags": "$:/tags/SideBar",
>> "text": "\\define width() calc(100% - 15px)
>> *I_PASTED_THE_CODE_HERE*\n\n\n  > class=\"tmap-flash-message tmap-warning\">\nThe editor is not displayed 
>> in mobile mode.\n  \n\n\n  
>> <$tiddlymap\nclass=\"tmap-sidebar-map-editor\"\n
>> editor=\"advanced\"\nobject-id=\"main_editor\"\n
>> click-to-use=\"false\">\n  \n"
>> },
>>
>> If you copy paste the *$:/plugins/felixhayashi/tiddlymap* Tiddler text 
>> into Notepad++ this block of code is in line 534 - 539
>>
>>
>> Here is *what it looked like with the code pasted *in:
>>
>> "$:/plugins/felixhayashi/tiddlymap/hook/editor": {
>> "title": "$:/plugins/felixhayashi/tiddlymap/hook/editor",
>> "caption": "Map",
>> "tags": "$:/tags/SideBar",
>> "text": "\\define width() calc(100% - 15px)\define 
>> lingo-base() $:/language/ThemeTweaks/
>>
>> <$select 
>> tiddler="$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/options/sidebarlayout">> value="fixed-fluid"><> Options/SidebarLayout/Fixed-Fluid>>> value="fluid-fixed"><> Options/SidebarLayout/Fluid-Fixed>>\n\n> class=\"tmap-mobile-editor\">\n  > tmap-warning\">\nThe editor is not displayed in mobile mode.\n  
>> \n\n\n  <$tiddlymap\n
>> class=\"tmap-sidebar-map-editor\"\neditor=\"advanced\"\n
>> object-id=\"main_editor\"\nclick-to-use=\"false\">\n  
>> \n"
>> },
>>
>> I also tried the pasting the code after removing all the spaces b/w 
>> ThemeTweaks/ and <$select tiddler...
>> Same Result. File Breaks.
>> Please let me know if i am doing this correct at all.
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Re: [tw5] Re: [Presenting]: STROLL official rollout!

2020-05-16 Thread David Gifford

Hi Kevin

If you don't want the automatic tiddler creation on saving edited tiddlers,
delete the tiddler $:/config/ui/EditTemplate
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On Sat, May 16, 2020 at 7:17 PM Kevin Boyle  wrote:

> Very cool! In vanilla TiddlyWiki, linking to a non-existent tiddler [[new
> tiddler]] renders as an italic link and the missing entry shows up in the
> sidebar under More > Missing.
>
> It is handy to see what entries are hanging and need to be fleshed out
> later. Seems like something about the automatic back links automatically
> creates the new tiddler in the background and removes its Missing property.
> Is this required for the back links, or can it be preserved? Is there
> another work around to find empty tiddlers?
>
> --Kevin
>
> On Thursday, May 7, 2020 at 8:04:17 AM UTC-7, David Gifford wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone
>>
>> Stroll is a TiddlyWiki adaptation imitating certain features of Roam to
>> help users easily see connections between their notes and navigate between
>> them. Features include:
>>
>>- bi-directional links,
>>- autocompletion when linking,
>>- renaming of links upon changing tiddler titles,
>>- side-by-side editing of multiple notes.
>>
>> Stroll is the successor to TiddlyBlink. I do not plan to update
>> TiddlyBlink (or its cousin Idea Stew) from here on out, except may be to
>> upgrade to new versions of TiddlyWiki.
>>
>> I have uploaded Stroll to its official home:
>> https://giffmex.org/stroll/stroll.html.
>>
>> I am hoping that its detailed tutorial will help introduce TiddlyWiki to
>> a new generation of non-techy users. I am also hoping that its similarity
>> to Roam will make it attractive to those who enjoy Roam but are concerned
>> about privacy issues for some of their information, or who won't be able to
>> afford Roam when it begins charging a subscription.
>>
>> Thank you to everyone who gave me feedback during the experimental phase,
>> and especially to Saq Imtiaz for creating and adapting his Stories plugin
>> for Stroll's needs. And thanks to all of you *in advance* for your
>> continued feedback and your promotion of Stroll as an easy way of getting
>> people added to the TiddlyWiki community.
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Re: [tw5] Re: [Presenting]: STROLL official rollout!

2020-05-16 Thread David Gifford

Hi Rert

Try pasting it on the line AFTER the first line, not at the end of the
first line. I guess I need to make that clearer.




On Sat, May 16, 2020 at 12:48 PM Reet Pandher 
wrote:

> Hi Dave,
> I tried the fix for TiddlyMap.
> I am getting the following error:
> *SyntaxError: JSON.parse: bad escaped character at line 538 column 57 of
> the JSON data*.
>
> I tried it with 5 different copies of my original file. I tried editing
> the tiddler in TiddlyDesktop as well as in Firefox and Chrome. The result
> is the same. After saving the file breaks.
> This is the process i followed:
> Go to Options> Plugins> Open *$:/plugins/felixhayashi/tiddlymap* Tiddler>
> Edit and Save the tiddler.
>
> Here is *where i pasted *the code:
>
> "$:/plugins/felixhayashi/tiddlymap/hook/editor": {
> "title": "$:/plugins/felixhayashi/tiddlymap/hook/editor",
> "caption": "Map",
> "tags": "$:/tags/SideBar",
> "text": "\\define width() calc(100% - 15px)
> *I_PASTED_THE_CODE_HERE*\n\n\n   class=\"tmap-flash-message tmap-warning\">\nThe editor is not displayed
> in mobile mode.\n  \n\n\n
> <$tiddlymap\nclass=\"tmap-sidebar-map-editor\"\n
> editor=\"advanced\"\nobject-id=\"main_editor\"\n
> click-to-use=\"false\">\n  \n"
> },
>
> If you copy paste the *$:/plugins/felixhayashi/tiddlymap* Tiddler text
> into Notepad++ this block of code is in line 534 - 539
>
>
> Here is *what it looked like with the code pasted *in:
>
> "$:/plugins/felixhayashi/tiddlymap/hook/editor": {
> "title": "$:/plugins/felixhayashi/tiddlymap/hook/editor",
> "caption": "Map",
> "tags": "$:/tags/SideBar",
> "text": "\\define width() calc(100% - 15px)\define
> lingo-base() $:/language/ThemeTweaks/
>
> <$select
> tiddler="$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/options/sidebarlayout"> value="fixed-fluid">< Options/SidebarLayout/Fixed-Fluid>> value="fluid-fixed">< Options/SidebarLayout/Fluid-Fixed>>\n\n class=\"tmap-mobile-editor\">\n   tmap-warning\">\nThe editor is not displayed in mobile mode.\n
> \n\n\n  <$tiddlymap\n
> class=\"tmap-sidebar-map-editor\"\neditor=\"advanced\"\n
> object-id=\"main_editor\"\nclick-to-use=\"false\">\n
> \n"
> },
>
> I also tried the pasting the code after removing all the spaces b/w
> ThemeTweaks/ and <$select tiddler...
> Same Result. File Breaks.
> Please let me know if i am doing this correct at all.
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Re: [tw5] Re: [Presenting]: STROLL official rollout!

Hi Dave,
I tried the fix for TiddlyMap.
I am getting the following error:
*SyntaxError: JSON.parse: bad escaped character at line 538 column 57 of 
the JSON data*.

I tried it with 5 different copies of my original file. I tried editing the 
tiddler in TiddlyDesktop as well as in Firefox and Chrome. The result is 
the same. After saving the file breaks.
This is the process i followed:
Go to Options> Plugins> Open *$:/plugins/felixhayashi/tiddlymap* Tiddler> 
Edit and Save the tiddler.

Here is *where i pasted *the code:

"$:/plugins/felixhayashi/tiddlymap/hook/editor": {
"title": "$:/plugins/felixhayashi/tiddlymap/hook/editor",
"caption": "Map",
"tags": "$:/tags/SideBar",
"text": "\\define width() calc(100% - 15px)
*I_PASTED_THE_CODE_HERE*\n\n\n  \nThe editor is not displayed 
in mobile mode.\n  \n\n\n  
<$tiddlymap\nclass=\"tmap-sidebar-map-editor\"\n
editor=\"advanced\"\nobject-id=\"main_editor\"\n
click-to-use=\"false\">\n  \n"
},

If you copy paste the *$:/plugins/felixhayashi/tiddlymap* Tiddler text into 
Notepad++ this block of code is in line 534 - 539


Here is *what it looked like with the code pasted *in:

"$:/plugins/felixhayashi/tiddlymap/hook/editor": {
"title": "$:/plugins/felixhayashi/tiddlymap/hook/editor",
"caption": "Map",
"tags": "$:/tags/SideBar",
"text": "\\define width() calc(100% - 15px)\define lingo-base() 
$:/language/ThemeTweaks/

<$select 
tiddler="$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/options/sidebarlayout"><><>\n\n\n  \nThe editor is not displayed in mobile mode.\n  
\n\n\n  <$tiddlymap\n
class=\"tmap-sidebar-map-editor\"\neditor=\"advanced\"\n
object-id=\"main_editor\"\nclick-to-use=\"false\">\n  
\n"
},

I also tried the pasting the code after removing all the spaces b/w 
ThemeTweaks/ and <$select tiddler...
Same Result. File Breaks.
Please let me know if i am doing this correct at all.

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Re: [tw5] Re: [Presenting]: STROLL official rollout!

2020-05-16 Thread David Gifford

Hi Reet

I just updated Stroll to add a Troubleshooting tab on the front page. I
added instructions there on how to hack your TiddlyMap. If that doesn't
work, let me know.

https://giffmex.org/stroll/stroll.html




On Sat, May 16, 2020 at 9:15 AM Reet Pandher 
wrote:

> Hi Dave,
>
> First of all Thank You for putting in so much effort into Stroll. I have
> switched to Stroll now from my typical TiddlyWiki.
> I have but one query: In my original TiddlyWiki i used TiddlyMap. I
> installed TiddlyMap on Stroll and it seems to override the two-story layout
> and reverts it to a default tiddlywiki view. I understand it is because the
> TiddlyMap needs the space to open up. Is there any way to expand the view
> back to two-story mode once i am done viewing the map?
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Re: [tw5] Re: [Presenting]: STROLL official rollout!

2020-05-16 Thread Stratos Laspas

Hi David, 

Yes, why not, I'd like to give this goodie a try and see how it works!

On Saturday, May 16, 2020 at 4:49:36 AM UTC+3, David Gifford wrote:
>
> Hi Mark
>
> I tried it out and it works pretty cool! I was wondering why you limited 
> the subrefs to those tagged header. I took that out and all of the tiddlers 
> show subrefs. I also added ''Subrefs'' at the top of ShowTOC so it is 
> clearer that those are not part of the text of the transcluded tiddler.
>
> I might offer this as a goodie (with attribution) for those who would like 
> to try it. I am afraid to put it in Stroll directly, because for new users 
> it would be confusing. Hard enough to explain transclusion of refs, much 
> less "links to subrefs of transcluded refs".
>
> I don't know as there is a right way or wrong way to use Stroll. The basic 
> idea is to take notes and link to other ideas in a note - to use links like 
> links and like tags, and ignore tags except for behind the scenes 
> functions. The backlinks just make it easier to  navigate between tiddlers 
> and see connections between ideas more easily. (Your hack extends this 
> possibility even further, for those who are savvy enough to get the idea). 
>
> Opening a tiddler in the second column is helpful when you want to compare 
> and edit related tiddlers side by side (examples: a book and a topic, a 
> draft and a final version, to dos and appointments, two thinkers' opinions 
> on the same topic, etc), but the two column format is not necessary most of 
> the time. 
>
>
> On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 7:03 PM 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
> tiddl...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
>>
>> I don't know if this means that I'm using Stroll incorrectly, but a 
>> feature I like is to sometimes see the sub-refs below the current refs. If 
>> anyone is interested, this is a little hack I made on TWBlink and now on 
>> Stroll. 
>>
>> In $:/.giffmex/ViewTemplate/refstranscludecollapse I replace the 
>> <$transclude...> down towards the bottom with this:
>>
>> <$transclude field="text" mode="block" />
>> <$list filter="[all[current]tag[header]]">
>> {{||ShowTOC}}
>> 
>> 
>>
>> where ShowTOC is a template with contents:
>>
>> <>
>>
>> Then any tiddler tagged "header" will reveal its refnotes inside of the 
>> refnotes section. That is, you're able to see the refnotes of a refnote.
>>
>> Actually, I add other <$lists> to do other things, for instance turning 
>> the reference area into an ad-hoc quiz app. But I digress.
>>
>> As I said, I may not "get" how I'm supposed to be using Stroll.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> On Thursday, May 7, 2020 at 8:04:17 AM UTC-7, David Gifford wrote:
>>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: [Presenting]: STROLL official rollout!

2020-05-15 Thread David Gifford

Hi Mark

I tried it out and it works pretty cool! I was wondering why you limited
the subrefs to those tagged header. I took that out and all of the tiddlers
show subrefs. I also added ''Subrefs'' at the top of ShowTOC so it is
clearer that those are not part of the text of the transcluded tiddler.

I might offer this as a goodie (with attribution) for those who would like
to try it. I am afraid to put it in Stroll directly, because for new users
it would be confusing. Hard enough to explain transclusion of refs, much
less "links to subrefs of transcluded refs".

I don't know as there is a right way or wrong way to use Stroll. The basic
idea is to take notes and link to other ideas in a note - to use links like
links and like tags, and ignore tags except for behind the scenes
functions. The backlinks just make it easier to  navigate between tiddlers
and see connections between ideas more easily. (Your hack extends this
possibility even further, for those who are savvy enough to get the idea).

Opening a tiddler in the second column is helpful when you want to compare
and edit related tiddlers side by side (examples: a book and a topic, a
draft and a final version, to dos and appointments, two thinkers' opinions
on the same topic, etc), but the two column format is not necessary most of
the time.

On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 7:03 PM 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>
> I don't know if this means that I'm using Stroll incorrectly, but a
> feature I like is to sometimes see the sub-refs below the current refs. If
> anyone is interested, this is a little hack I made on TWBlink and now on
> Stroll.
>
> In $:/.giffmex/ViewTemplate/refstranscludecollapse I replace the
> <$transclude...> down towards the bottom with this:
>
> <$transclude field="text" mode="block" />
> <$list filter="[all[current]tag[header]]">
> {{||ShowTOC}}
> 
> 
>
> where ShowTOC is a template with contents:
>
> <>
>
> Then any tiddler tagged "header" will reveal its refnotes inside of the
> refnotes section. That is, you're able to see the refnotes of a refnote.
>
> Actually, I add other <$lists> to do other things, for instance turning
> the reference area into an ad-hoc quiz app. But I digress.
>
> As I said, I may not "get" how I'm supposed to be using Stroll.
>
> Thanks!
>
> On Thursday, May 7, 2020 at 8:04:17 AM UTC-7, David Gifford wrote:
>>
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>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: [Presenting]: STROLL official rollout!

2020-05-15 Thread 'Timo Scheffler' via TiddlyWiki

Yep, still had the old version in browser cache, that solved it.

On 15.05.20 14:27, David Gifford wrote:
> 
> 
> On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 2:39 AM 'Timo Scheffler' via TiddlyWiki
> mailto:tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Thanks for the answer. :)
> 
> I think you have not fixed that, at least a current import of the file
> from your tiddlywiki does not change anything and a look at
> 
> https://giffmex.org/stroll/stroll.html#%24%3A%2F.giffmex%2FViewToolbar%2Fnew-note-here
> seems to show that the button still has no text content.
> 
> 
> *Maybe refresh your browser? When I go to that link and hover on the
> button in either the tiddler text or the viewtoolbar, I get a tooltip.
> When I click the more menu, there is text next to the icon. Edit the
> tiddler and you will see it has a description field and a content field.
> When I click the button it does what it is supposed to, create a new
> tiddler with a link to the originating tiddler.  So what exactly are you
> talking about?*
> 
> 
> Btw. I think that getting into writing plugins is quite hard on
> tiddlywiki... or I did not find the up-to-date "how to do this / best
> practises" tutorial. I want to start writing a plugin but my tries with
> folder based plugin development are still throwing errors. :D But that's
> a topic for another thread / more intense google search on my part. ^^
> 
> On 14.05.20 23:49, David Gifford wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 3:44:05 PM UTC-5, Faldrian wrote:
> >
> >     Hi!
> >
> >     Thanks for the Stroll-Plugin, I like the backlinking and sometimes
> >     the two-river view can come in handy. It's a good assortment of
> >     enhancements to the standard TW. :)
> >
> >
> > *Thanks! *
> >
> >
> >     I have some comments... and I hope I'm not intruding into a
> >     community that has a modus operandi that I don't get and show bad
> >     behaviour.
> >
> > *You did fine! You will find people are pretty friendly here, but also
> > straightfoward when errors need correcting.*
> >
> >      1. There is a caption missing on
> >         "$:/.giffmex/ViewToolbar/new-note-here". The button
> content only
> >         has the image, but no text. You can check when you use the
> >         "more" menu - the "new tiddler here" is the only one
> without text.
> >
> > *I think I already fixed this with the help of Gerrit Beine earlier in
> > this thread. Perhaps you downloaded your copy before I changed that.
> > Check it at the Stroll site. More menu shows text.*
> >  
> >
> >      1. I was also missing the animation, but you offered a fix
> earlier
> >         in the thread. My feeling would be, that this animation
> duration
> >         change should not be part of the plugin, as it changes TWs
> >         behaviour to your liking and is not really needed for the
> plugin
> >         to work.
> >
> > *Good point, I will change it back to the annoying default behavior.
> > ***:-)  *You are right that it is not an essential part of Stroll,
> and I
> > would like to keep this as lean and as similar to an out of the box
> > Tiddlywiki as possible.*
> >
> >      1. Just a meta thing - and I don't want to impose something! - I
> >         would suggest using some online code repository for this.
> >         Benefits would be:
> >          1. I had to scroll along the whole thread to see if somebody
> >             already reported the missing button text. On an online
> >             repository (github/bitbucket/...) I could have looked
> in the
> >             bug tracker tab and read the titles. :)
> >          2. There is a bug tracker, so different improvements / bug
> >             reports could be handled indepenently, instead in a long
> >             thread chronologically
> >          3. People could make pull requests and the system would deal
> >             with merging the code by itself. You would still be in
> >             control what ends up in the code, but you would not
> have to
> >             worry about diff files and people could suggest
> improvements
> >             and deliver the code for it and you would only have to
> check
> >             and merge into the development version.
> >          4. A list of Changes / a history of the code would be
> >             available, this may be interesting and helpful to see what
> >             changes were made
> >
> > *I agree, that
> > *
> > *1) adding it to GitHub and also
> > *
> > *2) packaging the bits that are not parts of other plugins into a
> proper
> > Stroll plugin
> > *
> > *would be good steps for Stroll. I am quite willing for someone
> who is a
>

Re: [tw5] Re: [Presenting]: STROLL official rollout!

2020-05-15 Thread David Gifford

On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 2:39 AM 'Timo Scheffler' via TiddlyWiki <
tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hi!
> Thanks for the answer. :)
>
> I think you have not fixed that, at least a current import of the file
> from your tiddlywiki does not change anything and a look at
>
> https://giffmex.org/stroll/stroll.html#%24%3A%2F.giffmex%2FViewToolbar%2Fnew-note-here
> seems to show that the button still has no text content.
>

*Maybe refresh your browser? When I go to that link and hover on the button
in either the tiddler text or the viewtoolbar, I get a tooltip. When I
click the more menu, there is text next to the icon. Edit the tiddler and
you will see it has a description field and a content field. When I click
the button it does what it is supposed to, create a new tiddler with a link
to the originating tiddler.  So what exactly are you talking about?*

>
> Btw. I think that getting into writing plugins is quite hard on
> tiddlywiki... or I did not find the up-to-date "how to do this / best
> practises" tutorial. I want to start writing a plugin but my tries with
> folder based plugin development are still throwing errors. :D But that's
> a topic for another thread / more intense google search on my part. ^^
>
> On 14.05.20 23:49, David Gifford wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 3:44:05 PM UTC-5, Faldrian wrote:
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> > Thanks for the Stroll-Plugin, I like the backlinking and sometimes
> > the two-river view can come in handy. It's a good assortment of
> > enhancements to the standard TW. :)
> >
> >
> > *Thanks! *
> >
> >
> > I have some comments... and I hope I'm not intruding into a
> > community that has a modus operandi that I don't get and show bad
> > behaviour.
> >
> > *You did fine! You will find people are pretty friendly here, but also
> > straightfoward when errors need correcting.*
> >
> >  1. There is a caption missing on
> > "$:/.giffmex/ViewToolbar/new-note-here". The button content only
> > has the image, but no text. You can check when you use the
> > "more" menu - the "new tiddler here" is the only one without
> text.
> >
> > *I think I already fixed this with the help of Gerrit Beine earlier in
> > this thread. Perhaps you downloaded your copy before I changed that.
> > Check it at the Stroll site. More menu shows text.*
> >
> >
> >  1. I was also missing the animation, but you offered a fix earlier
> > in the thread. My feeling would be, that this animation duration
> > change should not be part of the plugin, as it changes TWs
> > behaviour to your liking and is not really needed for the plugin
> > to work.
> >
> > *Good point, I will change it back to the annoying default behavior.
> > ***:-)  *You are right that it is not an essential part of Stroll, and I
> > would like to keep this as lean and as similar to an out of the box
> > Tiddlywiki as possible.*
> >
> >  1. Just a meta thing - and I don't want to impose something! - I
> > would suggest using some online code repository for this.
> > Benefits would be:
> >  1. I had to scroll along the whole thread to see if somebody
> > already reported the missing button text. On an online
> > repository (github/bitbucket/...) I could have looked in the
> > bug tracker tab and read the titles. :)
> >  2. There is a bug tracker, so different improvements / bug
> > reports could be handled indepenently, instead in a long
> > thread chronologically
> >  3. People could make pull requests and the system would deal
> > with merging the code by itself. You would still be in
> > control what ends up in the code, but you would not have to
> > worry about diff files and people could suggest improvements
> > and deliver the code for it and you would only have to check
> > and merge into the development version.
> >  4. A list of Changes / a history of the code would be
> > available, this may be interesting and helpful to see what
> > changes were made
> >
> > *I agree, that
> > *
> > *1) adding it to GitHub and also
> > *
> > *2) packaging the bits that are not parts of other plugins into a proper
> > Stroll plugin
> > *
> > *would be good steps for Stroll. I am quite willing for someone who is a
> > longstanding member of the Google Group to adopt Stroll and host it on
> > GitHub, and I could redirect from my site to that one. Seriously, I am
> > not possessive of it, and I am ready to set this project aside and get
> > back to focusing on using Stroll for my own needs.
> > *
> > *
> > *
> > *FYI I don't know how to package plugins, and I find GitHub hard to
> > understand, so I don't have the patience for those two additional
> > learning curves. My many interests are elsewhere. I am not a coder, just
> > someone with years of

Re: [tw5] Re: [Presenting]: STROLL official rollout!

2020-05-15 Thread 'Timo Scheffler' via TiddlyWiki

Hi!
Thanks for the answer. :)

I think you have not fixed that, at least a current import of the file
from your tiddlywiki does not change anything and a look at
https://giffmex.org/stroll/stroll.html#%24%3A%2F.giffmex%2FViewToolbar%2Fnew-note-here
seems to show that the button still has no text content.

Btw. I think that getting into writing plugins is quite hard on
tiddlywiki... or I did not find the up-to-date "how to do this / best
practises" tutorial. I want to start writing a plugin but my tries with
folder based plugin development are still throwing errors. :D But that's
a topic for another thread / more intense google search on my part. ^^

On 14.05.20 23:49, David Gifford wrote:
> 
> 
> On Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 3:44:05 PM UTC-5, Faldrian wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> Thanks for the Stroll-Plugin, I like the backlinking and sometimes
> the two-river view can come in handy. It's a good assortment of
> enhancements to the standard TW. :)
> 
> 
> *Thanks! *
> 
> 
> I have some comments... and I hope I'm not intruding into a
> community that has a modus operandi that I don't get and show bad
> behaviour.
> 
> *You did fine! You will find people are pretty friendly here, but also
> straightfoward when errors need correcting.*
> 
>  1. There is a caption missing on
> "$:/.giffmex/ViewToolbar/new-note-here". The button content only
> has the image, but no text. You can check when you use the
> "more" menu - the "new tiddler here" is the only one without text.
> 
> *I think I already fixed this with the help of Gerrit Beine earlier in
> this thread. Perhaps you downloaded your copy before I changed that.
> Check it at the Stroll site. More menu shows text.*
>  
> 
>  1. I was also missing the animation, but you offered a fix earlier
> in the thread. My feeling would be, that this animation duration
> change should not be part of the plugin, as it changes TWs
> behaviour to your liking and is not really needed for the plugin
> to work.
> 
> *Good point, I will change it back to the annoying default behavior.
> ***:-)  *You are right that it is not an essential part of Stroll, and I
> would like to keep this as lean and as similar to an out of the box
> Tiddlywiki as possible.*
> 
>  1. Just a meta thing - and I don't want to impose something! - I
> would suggest using some online code repository for this.
> Benefits would be:
>  1. I had to scroll along the whole thread to see if somebody
> already reported the missing button text. On an online
> repository (github/bitbucket/...) I could have looked in the
> bug tracker tab and read the titles. :)
>  2. There is a bug tracker, so different improvements / bug
> reports could be handled indepenently, instead in a long
> thread chronologically
>  3. People could make pull requests and the system would deal
> with merging the code by itself. You would still be in
> control what ends up in the code, but you would not have to
> worry about diff files and people could suggest improvements
> and deliver the code for it and you would only have to check
> and merge into the development version.
>  4. A list of Changes / a history of the code would be
> available, this may be interesting and helpful to see what
> changes were made
> 
> *I agree, that
> *
> *1) adding it to GitHub and also
> *
> *2) packaging the bits that are not parts of other plugins into a proper
> Stroll plugin
> *
> *would be good steps for Stroll. I am quite willing for someone who is a
> longstanding member of the Google Group to adopt Stroll and host it on
> GitHub, and I could redirect from my site to that one. Seriously, I am
> not possessive of it, and I am ready to set this project aside and get
> back to focusing on using Stroll for my own needs.
> *
> *
> *
> *FYI I don't know how to package plugins, and I find GitHub hard to
> understand, so I don't have the patience for those two additional
> learning curves. My many interests are elsewhere. I am not a coder, just
> someone with years of experience with TiddlyWiki who cobbles stuff
> together and hopes it works. And I have lots of generous ad
> knowledgeable friends here who have helped me figure things out when I
> got stuck. I **just wanted to see how much of Roam functionality I could
> create in a TiddlyWiki, and I got fairly close on the basic
> functionality. Of course Roam has a lot more going for it than I can
> replicate, and TiddlyWiki has a lot that Roam does not. I don't see them
> as rivals, but similar tools for different needs / markets.
> *
> *
> *
> *Blessings!
> *
> 
> thanks again, I will follow the future changes and am looking
> forward how this develops. :)
> 
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Re: [tw5] Re: [Presenting]: STROLL official rollout!

2020-05-14 Thread David Gifford



On Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 3:44:05 PM UTC-5, Faldrian wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> Thanks for the Stroll-Plugin, I like the backlinking and sometimes the 
> two-river view can come in handy. It's a good assortment of enhancements to 
> the standard TW. :)
>

*Thanks! *

>
> I have some comments... and I hope I'm not intruding into a community that 
> has a modus operandi that I don't get and show bad behaviour.
>
> *You did fine! You will find people are pretty friendly here, but also 
straightfoward when errors need correcting.*

>
>1. There is a caption missing on 
>"$:/.giffmex/ViewToolbar/new-note-here". The button content only has the 
>image, but no text. You can check when you use the "more" menu - the "new 
>tiddler here" is the only one without text.
>
> *I think I already fixed this with the help of Gerrit Beine earlier in 
this thread. Perhaps you downloaded your copy before I changed that. Check 
it at the Stroll site. More menu shows text.*
 

>
>1. I was also missing the animation, but you offered a fix earlier in 
>the thread. My feeling would be, that this animation duration change 
> should 
>not be part of the plugin, as it changes TWs behaviour to your liking and 
>is not really needed for the plugin to work.
>
> *Good point, I will change it back to the annoying default behavior. **:-)  
You are right that it is not an essential part of Stroll, and I would like 
to keep this as lean and as similar to an out of the box Tiddlywiki as 
possible.*

>
>1. Just a meta thing - and I don't want to impose something! - I would 
>suggest using some online code repository for this. Benefits would be:
>   1. I had to scroll along the whole thread to see if somebody 
>   already reported the missing button text. On an online repository 
>   (github/bitbucket/...) I could have looked in the bug tracker tab and 
> read 
>   the titles. :)
>   2. There is a bug tracker, so different improvements / bug reports 
>   could be handled indepenently, instead in a long thread chronologically
>   3. People could make pull requests and the system would deal with 
>   merging the code by itself. You would still be in control what ends up 
> in 
>   the code, but you would not have to worry about diff files and people 
> could 
>   suggest improvements and deliver the code for it and you would only 
> have to 
>   check and merge into the development version.
>   4. A list of Changes / a history of the code would be available, 
>   this may be interesting and helpful to see what changes were made
>
>
*I agree, that *

*1) adding it to GitHub and also*

*2) packaging the bits that are not parts of other plugins into a proper 
Stroll plugin *

*would be good steps for Stroll. I am quite willing for someone who is a 
longstanding member of the Google Group to adopt Stroll and host it on 
GitHub, and I could redirect from my site to that one. Seriously, I am not 
possessive of it, and I am ready to set this project aside and get back to 
focusing on using Stroll for my own needs. *

* FYI I don't know how to package plugins, and I find GitHub hard to 
understand, so I don't have the patience for those two additional learning 
curves. My many interests are elsewhere. I am not a coder, just someone 
with years of experience with TiddlyWiki who cobbles stuff together and 
hopes it works. And I have lots of generous ad knowledgeable friends here 
who have helped me figure things out when I got stuck. I *
*just wanted to see how much of Roam functionality I could create in a 
TiddlyWiki, and I got fairly close on the basic functionality. Of course 
Roam has a lot more going for it than I can replicate, and TiddlyWiki has a 
lot that Roam does not. I don't see them as rivals, but similar tools for 
different needs / markets.*


*Blessings!*

thanks again, I will follow the future changes and am looking forward how 
> this develops. :)
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: [Presenting]: STROLL official rollout!

2020-05-14 Thread Faldrian

Hi!

Thanks for the Stroll-Plugin, I like the backlinking and sometimes the
two-river view can come in handy. It's a good assortment of enhancements to
the standard TW. :)

I have some comments... and I hope I'm not intruding into a community that
has a modus operandi that I don't get and show bad behaviour.

1. There is a caption missing on
"$:/.giffmex/ViewToolbar/new-note-here". The button content only has the
image, but no text. You can check when you use the "more" menu - the "new
tiddler here" is the only one without text.
2. I was also missing the animation, but you offered a fix earlier in
the thread. My feeling would be, that this animation duration change should
not be part of the plugin, as it changes TWs behaviour to your liking and
is not really needed for the plugin to work.
3. Just a meta thing - and I don't want to impose something! - I would
suggest using some online code repository for this. Benefits would be:
1. I had to scroll along the whole thread to see if somebody already
reported the missing button text. On an online repository
(github/bitbucket/...) I could have looked in the bug tracker tab and
read
the titles. :)
2. People could make pull requests and the system would deal with
merging the code by itself. You would still be in control what ends up in
the code, but you would not have to worry about diff files and people
could
suggest improvements and deliver the code for it and you would only have
to
check and merge into the development version.
3. A list of Changes / a history of the code would be available, this
may be interesting and helpful to see what changes were made

thanks again, I will follow the future changes and am looking forward how
this develops. :)

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Re: [tw5] Re: [Presenting]: STROLL official rollout!

2020-05-13 Thread David Gifford

You could delete the  in your copy from the following tiddlers

$:/.giffmex/ViewTemplate/refscontext

$:/.giffmex/ViewTemplate/refshidden

$:/.giffmex/ViewTemplate/refslinks

$:/.giffmex/ViewTemplate/refstranscludeclean

$:/.giffmex/ViewTemplate/refstranscludecollapse





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> Wow I see! I thought I could find a way to hide that  line somewhere
> in the structure files.
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Re: [tw5] Re: [Presenting]: STROLL official rollout!

2020-05-13 Thread Edgaras

Wow I see! I thought I could find a way to hide that  line somewhere in 
the structure files.

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Re: [tw5] Re: [Presenting]: STROLL official rollout!

2020-05-13 Thread David Gifford

Hi Edgaras, not that I know of, the way I did it. Would require a complete 
reconfiguration.

On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 7:39:37 AM UTC-5, Edgaras wrote:
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> *David *small thingy, would it be possible to hide the line in the 
> footnotes if no links are present?
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Re: [tw5] Re: [Presenting]: STROLL official rollout!

2020-05-13 Thread Edgaras

*David *small thingy, would it be possible to hide the line in the 
footnotes if no links are present?

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Re: [tw5] Re: [Presenting]: STROLL official rollout!

2020-05-13 Thread 'Jakob' via TiddlyWiki

Hi David,

thanks! That's what I'm doing now (edit locally, save html -> upload github 
pages). It's a bit cumbersome but I guess there currently isn't a much 
better option.

Best,
Jakib

Am Mittwoch, 13. Mai 2020 13:56:17 UTC+2 schrieb David Gifford:
>
> Hi Jakob, I think you are asking about hosting your Stroll online. Stroll 
> is ideally for using locally on your computer, but there are hosting 
> options available.
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#GettingStarted%20-%20Online
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#Saving%20on%20TiddlySpot
> https://dynalist.io/d/zUP-nIWu2FFoXH-oM7L7d9DM#z=3wGygvpg5j7GS-bK4HIkF_DT)
>
> In my case, years ago I bought my own site, so I just use FileZilla to 
> upload the entire html file of Stroll to my site. 
>
> I agree, it is frustrating that exporting static htmls lose valuable 
> features. But the gain is that they are faster to download. There is always 
> a tradeoff!
>
> I hope you find a solution that works for you.
>
>
> On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 4:33 AM 'Jakob' via TiddlyWiki <
> tiddl...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
>> What's a good way to make a stroll site publicy available? Static exports 
>> kill all the nice features but loading the full tiddler takes far too long. 
>>
>> Specifically, how did you host and deploy the example stroll site ate 
>> https://giffmex.org/stroll/stroll.html? Any tips would be amazing.
>>
>>
>> Am Donnerstag, 7. Mai 2020 17:04:17 UTC+2 schrieb David Gifford:
>>>
>>> Hi everyone
>>>
>>> Stroll is a TiddlyWiki adaptation imitating certain features of Roam to 
>>> help users easily see connections between their notes and navigate between 
>>> them. Features include:
>>>
>>>- bi-directional links, 
>>>- autocompletion when linking, 
>>>- renaming of links upon changing tiddler titles, 
>>>- side-by-side editing of multiple notes. 
>>>
>>> Stroll is the successor to TiddlyBlink. I do not plan to update 
>>> TiddlyBlink (or its cousin Idea Stew) from here on out, except may be to 
>>> upgrade to new versions of TiddlyWiki.
>>>
>>> I have uploaded Stroll to its official home: 
>>> https://giffmex.org/stroll/stroll.html.
>>>
>>> I am hoping that its detailed tutorial will help introduce TiddlyWiki to 
>>> a new generation of non-techy users. I am also hoping that its similarity 
>>> to Roam will make it attractive to those who enjoy Roam but are concerned 
>>> about privacy issues for some of their information, or who won't be able to 
>>> afford Roam when it begins charging a subscription.
>>>
>>> Thank you to everyone who gave me feedback during the experimental 
>>> phase, and especially to Saq Imtiaz for creating and adapting his Stories 
>>> plugin for Stroll's needs. And thanks to all of you *in advance* for 
>>> your continued feedback and your promotion of Stroll as an easy way of 
>>> getting people added to the TiddlyWiki community.
>>>
>>> Blessings.
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Re: [tw5] Re: [Presenting]: STROLL official rollout!

2020-05-13 Thread David Gifford

Hi Jakob, I think you are asking about hosting your Stroll online. Stroll
is ideally for using locally on your computer, but there are hosting
options available.

https://tiddlywiki.com/#GettingStarted%20-%20Online
https://tiddlywiki.com/#Saving%20on%20TiddlySpot
https://dynalist.io/d/zUP-nIWu2FFoXH-oM7L7d9DM#z=3wGygvpg5j7GS-bK4HIkF_DT)

In my case, years ago I bought my own site, so I just use FileZilla to
upload the entire html file of Stroll to my site.

I agree, it is frustrating that exporting static htmls lose valuable
features. But the gain is that they are faster to download. There is always
a tradeoff!

I hope you find a solution that works for you.


On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 4:33 AM 'Jakob' via TiddlyWiki <
tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> What's a good way to make a stroll site publicy available? Static exports
> kill all the nice features but loading the full tiddler takes far too long.
>
> Specifically, how did you host and deploy the example stroll site ate
> https://giffmex.org/stroll/stroll.html? Any tips would be amazing.
>
>
> Am Donnerstag, 7. Mai 2020 17:04:17 UTC+2 schrieb David Gifford:
>>
>> Hi everyone
>>
>> Stroll is a TiddlyWiki adaptation imitating certain features of Roam to
>> help users easily see connections between their notes and navigate between
>> them. Features include:
>>
>>- bi-directional links,
>>- autocompletion when linking,
>>- renaming of links upon changing tiddler titles,
>>- side-by-side editing of multiple notes.
>>
>> Stroll is the successor to TiddlyBlink. I do not plan to update
>> TiddlyBlink (or its cousin Idea Stew) from here on out, except may be to
>> upgrade to new versions of TiddlyWiki.
>>
>> I have uploaded Stroll to its official home:
>> https://giffmex.org/stroll/stroll.html.
>>
>> I am hoping that its detailed tutorial will help introduce TiddlyWiki to
>> a new generation of non-techy users. I am also hoping that its similarity
>> to Roam will make it attractive to those who enjoy Roam but are concerned
>> about privacy issues for some of their information, or who won't be able to
>> afford Roam when it begins charging a subscription.
>>
>> Thank you to everyone who gave me feedback during the experimental phase,
>> and especially to Saq Imtiaz for creating and adapting his Stories plugin
>> for Stroll's needs. And thanks to all of you *in advance* for your
>> continued feedback and your promotion of Stroll as an easy way of getting
>> people added to the TiddlyWiki community.
>>
>> Blessings.
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Re: [tw5] Re: [Presenting]: STROLL official rollout!

2020-05-11 Thread Mohammad

WoW! You are a TW celebrity! ;-)



On Monday, May 11, 2020 at 5:03:53 PM UTC+4:30, David Gifford wrote:
>
> Cool! Thanks for letting me know, Dave!
>
> On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 12:19 AM Dave Parker  > wrote:
>
>> Hey Dave, not sure if you know yet (I didn't read this entire thread), 
>> but you got a mention in the YouTube thing on "alternatives to roam"
>>
>> https://youtu.be/KJdnZpUXluQ
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Re: [tw5] Re: [Presenting]: STROLL official rollout!

2020-05-11 Thread David Gifford

Cool! Thanks for letting me know, Dave!

On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 12:19 AM Dave Parker  wrote:

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> you got a mention in the YouTube thing on "alternatives to roam"
>
> https://youtu.be/KJdnZpUXluQ
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Re: [tw5] Re: [Presenting]: STROLL official rollout!

2020-05-10 Thread Dave Parker

Hey Dave, not sure if you know yet (I didn't read this entire thread), but you 
got a mention in the YouTube thing on "alternatives to roam"

https://youtu.be/KJdnZpUXluQ

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Re: [tw5] Re: [Presenting]: STROLL official rollout!

2020-05-10 Thread Gerrit Beine

Hi Dave,

you can use diffutils or patch for it, depending on your OS.

The diff is explained here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diff
And on Unixes, the patch tool is available: 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patch_(Unix)
I use ordinary text editors to read these files and diff and patch to work 
with them.

HTH

Gerrit

Am Sonntag, 10. Mai 2020 14:53:50 UTC+2 schrieb David Gifford:
>
> But I still don't know how to open and read your diff files...
>
>
>
> On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 4:12 AM Gerrit Beine  > wrote:
>
>> Hi Dave,
>>
>> yes, that's recognized ;-)
>> In the configuration of the view toolbar the description for journal 
>> entries was not shown and the description for new tiddler was the one for 
>> the journal entry.
>> I've fixed this.
>> Also, in the configuration the icon for the new tiddler was the same as 
>> for the new journal entry.
>> I changed the icon for new tiddler to the same one that is used in the 
>> view toolbar.
>>
>> HTH
>> So long..
>>
>> Gerrit
>>
>> Am Sonntag, 10. Mai 2020 04:58:29 UTC+2 schrieb David Gifford:
>>>
>>> Hi Gerrit
>>>
>>> 1) Not sure how to open diff files. Maybe you could send them in a 
>>> tiddlywiki html or as tid files?
>>>
>>> 2) What specifically is wrong with my "usage of icons and the hints for 
>>> the toolbar buttons"? You do realize I changed those hints, since those are 
>>> NOT the usual new here buttons that tag tiddlers, correct? They are new 
>>> here buttons that add links to the parent tiddlers inside the text field of 
>>> the child tiddlers.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, May 9, 2020 at 3:06:14 PM UTC-5, Gerrit Beine wrote:

 Hi Dave,
 as promised on Twitter, here are my patched files.
 I've fixed the usage of icons and the hints for the toolbar buttons.
 Thanks again for stroll!
 Gerrit

 Am Donnerstag, 7. Mai 2020 17:04:17 UTC+2 schrieb David Gifford:
>
> Hi everyone
>
> Stroll is a TiddlyWiki adaptation imitating certain features of Roam 
> to help users easily see connections between their notes and navigate 
> between them. Features include:
>
>- bi-directional links, 
>- autocompletion when linking, 
>- renaming of links upon changing tiddler titles, 
>- side-by-side editing of multiple notes. 
>
> Stroll is the successor to TiddlyBlink. I do not plan to update 
> TiddlyBlink (or its cousin Idea Stew) from here on out, except may be to 
> upgrade to new versions of TiddlyWiki.
>
> I have uploaded Stroll to its official home: 
> https://giffmex.org/stroll/stroll.html.
>
> I am hoping that its detailed tutorial will help introduce TiddlyWiki 
> to a new generation of non-techy users. I am also hoping that its 
> similarity to Roam will make it attractive to those who enjoy Roam but 
> are 
> concerned about privacy issues for some of their information, or who 
> won't 
> be able to afford Roam when it begins charging a subscription.
>
> Thank you to everyone who gave me feedback during the experimental 
> phase, and especially to Saq Imtiaz for creating and adapting his Stories 
> plugin for Stroll's needs. And thanks to all of you *in advance* for 
> your continued feedback and your promotion of Stroll as an easy way of 
> getting people added to the TiddlyWiki community.
>
> Blessings.
>
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Re: [tw5] Re: [Presenting]: STROLL official rollout!

2020-05-10 Thread David Gifford

ok thanks Saq!




On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 7:56 AM Saq Imtiaz  wrote:

> Open in any text editor Dave, they show you what has changed in that
> particular file compared to the original.
>
> On Sunday, May 10, 2020 at 2:53:50 PM UTC+2, David Gifford wrote:
>>
>> But I still don't know how to open and read your diff files...
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 4:12 AM Gerrit Beine  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Dave,
>>>
>>> yes, that's recognized ;-)
>>> In the configuration of the view toolbar the description for journal
>>> entries was not shown and the description for new tiddler was the one for
>>> the journal entry.
>>> I've fixed this.
>>> Also, in the configuration the icon for the new tiddler was the same as
>>> for the new journal entry.
>>> I changed the icon for new tiddler to the same one that is used in the
>>> view toolbar.
>>>
>>> HTH
>>> So long..
>>>
>>> Gerrit
>>>
>>> Am Sonntag, 10. Mai 2020 04:58:29 UTC+2 schrieb David Gifford:

 Hi Gerrit

 1) Not sure how to open diff files. Maybe you could send them in a
 tiddlywiki html or as tid files?

 2) What specifically is wrong with my "usage of icons and the hints for
 the toolbar buttons"? You do realize I changed those hints, since those are
 NOT the usual new here buttons that tag tiddlers, correct? They are new
 here buttons that add links to the parent tiddlers inside the text field of
 the child tiddlers.

 On Saturday, May 9, 2020 at 3:06:14 PM UTC-5, Gerrit Beine wrote:
>
> Hi Dave,
> as promised on Twitter, here are my patched files.
> I've fixed the usage of icons and the hints for the toolbar buttons.
> Thanks again for stroll!
> Gerrit
>
> Am Donnerstag, 7. Mai 2020 17:04:17 UTC+2 schrieb David Gifford:
>>
>> Hi everyone
>>
>> Stroll is a TiddlyWiki adaptation imitating certain features of Roam
>> to help users easily see connections between their notes and navigate
>> between them. Features include:
>>
>>- bi-directional links,
>>- autocompletion when linking,
>>- renaming of links upon changing tiddler titles,
>>- side-by-side editing of multiple notes.
>>
>> Stroll is the successor to TiddlyBlink. I do not plan to update
>> TiddlyBlink (or its cousin Idea Stew) from here on out, except may be to
>> upgrade to new versions of TiddlyWiki.
>>
>> I have uploaded Stroll to its official home:
>> https://giffmex.org/stroll/stroll.html.
>>
>> I am hoping that its detailed tutorial will help introduce TiddlyWiki
>> to a new generation of non-techy users. I am also hoping that its
>> similarity to Roam will make it attractive to those who enjoy Roam but 
>> are
>> concerned about privacy issues for some of their information, or who 
>> won't
>> be able to afford Roam when it begins charging a subscription.
>>
>> Thank you to everyone who gave me feedback during the experimental
>> phase, and especially to Saq Imtiaz for creating and adapting his Stories
>> plugin for Stroll's needs. And thanks to all of you *in advance* for
>> your continued feedback and your promotion of Stroll as an easy way of
>> getting people added to the TiddlyWiki community.
>>
>> Blessings.
>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: [Presenting]: STROLL official rollout!

2020-05-10 Thread Saq Imtiaz

Open in any text editor Dave, they show you what has changed in that 
particular file compared to the original.

On Sunday, May 10, 2020 at 2:53:50 PM UTC+2, David Gifford wrote:
>
> But I still don't know how to open and read your diff files...
>
>
>
> On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 4:12 AM Gerrit Beine  > wrote:
>
>> Hi Dave,
>>
>> yes, that's recognized ;-)
>> In the configuration of the view toolbar the description for journal 
>> entries was not shown and the description for new tiddler was the one for 
>> the journal entry.
>> I've fixed this.
>> Also, in the configuration the icon for the new tiddler was the same as 
>> for the new journal entry.
>> I changed the icon for new tiddler to the same one that is used in the 
>> view toolbar.
>>
>> HTH
>> So long..
>>
>> Gerrit
>>
>> Am Sonntag, 10. Mai 2020 04:58:29 UTC+2 schrieb David Gifford:
>>>
>>> Hi Gerrit
>>>
>>> 1) Not sure how to open diff files. Maybe you could send them in a 
>>> tiddlywiki html or as tid files?
>>>
>>> 2) What specifically is wrong with my "usage of icons and the hints for 
>>> the toolbar buttons"? You do realize I changed those hints, since those are 
>>> NOT the usual new here buttons that tag tiddlers, correct? They are new 
>>> here buttons that add links to the parent tiddlers inside the text field of 
>>> the child tiddlers.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, May 9, 2020 at 3:06:14 PM UTC-5, Gerrit Beine wrote:

 Hi Dave,
 as promised on Twitter, here are my patched files.
 I've fixed the usage of icons and the hints for the toolbar buttons.
 Thanks again for stroll!
 Gerrit

 Am Donnerstag, 7. Mai 2020 17:04:17 UTC+2 schrieb David Gifford:
>
> Hi everyone
>
> Stroll is a TiddlyWiki adaptation imitating certain features of Roam 
> to help users easily see connections between their notes and navigate 
> between them. Features include:
>
>- bi-directional links, 
>- autocompletion when linking, 
>- renaming of links upon changing tiddler titles, 
>- side-by-side editing of multiple notes. 
>
> Stroll is the successor to TiddlyBlink. I do not plan to update 
> TiddlyBlink (or its cousin Idea Stew) from here on out, except may be to 
> upgrade to new versions of TiddlyWiki.
>
> I have uploaded Stroll to its official home: 
> https://giffmex.org/stroll/stroll.html.
>
> I am hoping that its detailed tutorial will help introduce TiddlyWiki 
> to a new generation of non-techy users. I am also hoping that its 
> similarity to Roam will make it attractive to those who enjoy Roam but 
> are 
> concerned about privacy issues for some of their information, or who 
> won't 
> be able to afford Roam when it begins charging a subscription.
>
> Thank you to everyone who gave me feedback during the experimental 
> phase, and especially to Saq Imtiaz for creating and adapting his Stories 
> plugin for Stroll's needs. And thanks to all of you *in advance* for 
> your continued feedback and your promotion of Stroll as an easy way of 
> getting people added to the TiddlyWiki community.
>
> Blessings.
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Re: [tw5] Re: [Presenting]: STROLL official rollout!

2020-05-10 Thread David Gifford

But I still don't know how to open and read your diff files...

On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 4:12 AM Gerrit Beine  wrote:

> Hi Dave,
>
> yes, that's recognized ;-)
> In the configuration of the view toolbar the description for journal
> entries was not shown and the description for new tiddler was the one for
> the journal entry.
> I've fixed this.
> Also, in the configuration the icon for the new tiddler was the same as
> for the new journal entry.
> I changed the icon for new tiddler to the same one that is used in the
> view toolbar.
>
> HTH
> So long..
>
> Gerrit
>
> Am Sonntag, 10. Mai 2020 04:58:29 UTC+2 schrieb David Gifford:
>>
>> Hi Gerrit
>>
>> 1) Not sure how to open diff files. Maybe you could send them in a
>> tiddlywiki html or as tid files?
>>
>> 2) What specifically is wrong with my "usage of icons and the hints for
>> the toolbar buttons"? You do realize I changed those hints, since those are
>> NOT the usual new here buttons that tag tiddlers, correct? They are new
>> here buttons that add links to the parent tiddlers inside the text field of
>> the child tiddlers.
>>
>> On Saturday, May 9, 2020 at 3:06:14 PM UTC-5, Gerrit Beine wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Dave,
>>> as promised on Twitter, here are my patched files.
>>> I've fixed the usage of icons and the hints for the toolbar buttons.
>>> Thanks again for stroll!
>>> Gerrit
>>>
>>> Am Donnerstag, 7. Mai 2020 17:04:17 UTC+2 schrieb David Gifford:

 Hi everyone

 Stroll is a TiddlyWiki adaptation imitating certain features of Roam to
 help users easily see connections between their notes and navigate between
 them. Features include:

- bi-directional links,
- autocompletion when linking,
- renaming of links upon changing tiddler titles,
- side-by-side editing of multiple notes.

 Stroll is the successor to TiddlyBlink. I do not plan to update
 TiddlyBlink (or its cousin Idea Stew) from here on out, except may be to
 upgrade to new versions of TiddlyWiki.

 I have uploaded Stroll to its official home:
 https://giffmex.org/stroll/stroll.html.

 I am hoping that its detailed tutorial will help introduce TiddlyWiki
 to a new generation of non-techy users. I am also hoping that its
 similarity to Roam will make it attractive to those who enjoy Roam but are
 concerned about privacy issues for some of their information, or who won't
 be able to afford Roam when it begins charging a subscription.

 Thank you to everyone who gave me feedback during the experimental
 phase, and especially to Saq Imtiaz for creating and adapting his Stories
 plugin for Stroll's needs. And thanks to all of you *in advance* for
 your continued feedback and your promotion of Stroll as an easy way of
 getting people added to the TiddlyWiki community.

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Re: [tw5] Re: [Presenting]: STROLL official rollout!

2020-05-09 Thread David Gifford

Hi Ed

I just added to the documentation to reflect these two items. Thank you for 
bringing them to my attention!

On Saturday, May 9, 2020 at 2:40:52 PM UTC-5, Ed Heil wrote:
>
> David, 
>
> On the issue of the autocomplete -- it might be worth calling out in the 
> tutorial that the autocomplete plugin won't work on iOS, or anyplace you 
> don't have arrow keys, as this will be a problem for people using it, e.g., 
> through Quine 2.  It's also not trivial to disable it; you can't just 
> disable the plugin, you need to go find the shadowed tiddler which replaces 
> the regular editor with the autocompleting editor, and delete the shadowing 
> tiddler.  (I learned that from reading the Autocomplete docs.)  That's not 
> something a beginner would have any idea how to do so it might be an 
> unnecessary hurdle. 
>
> One other thing I would have liked to see in the tutorial -- I was 
> thinking about whether I just wanted to add the backlink plugin to my 
> existing tiddlywiki.  The tutorial tells me what the backlink plugin does 
> -- but it doesn't tell me what it *doesn't* do that the full Stroll install 
> *does* do.  So I didn't feel like I had the information I needed to make 
> that choice. 
>
> Just a couple suggestions.  Again, I'm very enthusiastic about Stroll! 
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Re: [tw5] Re: [Presenting]: STROLL official rollout!

2020-05-09 Thread Ed Heil

David,

On the issue of the autocomplete -- it might be worth calling out in the 
tutorial that the autocomplete plugin won't work on iOS, or anyplace you don't 
have arrow keys, as this will be a problem for people using it, e.g., through 
Quine 2.  It's also not trivial to disable it; you can't just disable the 
plugin, you need to go find the shadowed tiddler which replaces the regular 
editor with the autocompleting editor, and delete the shadowing tiddler.  (I 
learned that from reading the Autocomplete docs.)  That's not something a 
beginner would have any idea how to do so it might be an unnecessary hurdle.

One other thing I would have liked to see in the tutorial -- I was thinking 
about whether I just wanted to add the backlink plugin to my existing 
tiddlywiki.  The tutorial tells me what the backlink plugin does -- but it 
doesn't tell me what it *doesn't* do that the full Stroll install *does* do.  
So I didn't feel like I had the information I needed to make that choice.

Just a couple suggestions.  Again, I'm very enthusiastic about Stroll!

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Re: [tw5] Re: [Presenting]: STROLL official rollout!

2020-05-08 Thread David Gifford

Finally someone gets it!

On Fri, May 8, 2020, 10:29 AM Ed Heil  wrote:

> This is outstanding.  I feel like it could completely transform how one
> works with tiddlywikis.
>
> Right now it feels like the learning path for a new tiddlywiki user is
>
> * use links because they're easy and basic
> * realize you can't rename tiddlers without a lot of work -- grab a plugin
> to fix it, or start looking into tags, which do auto-renaming completely
> * realize a lot of the most powerful ways of linking things together
> involves tags, because a tag establishes a two-way link between the tag
> tiddler and the tagged tiddler, and the relationship persists through
> renames.
>
> At least, that was the path for me.
>
> But there's a discontinuity between fluent "writing and linking" and
> "learning to do things effectively with tags" which requires effort to
> cross.
>
> With this, you get a lot of the benefits that right now require tags,
> without having to make that extra jump of learning.  It keeps things more
> traditionally wiki-like, text-oriented.
>
> I wonder if the future of Tiddlywiki is going to involve incorporating
> some kind of backlinking.
>
> One small downside for me: it's a bummer that the autocomplete plugin
> doesn't allow you to just click on one of the completions, as opposed to
> moving down onto them with arrow keys, because I'm often on mobile where I
> have no arrow keys.  Oh well, I can disable that, it's a peripheral issue.
> I appreciate the fact that it was called out in the tutorial so I knew what
> was going on there.
>
> Anyway, congratulations on this achievement.
>
>
> On Thursday, May 7, 2020 at 11:04:17 AM UTC-4, David Gifford wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone
>>
>> Stroll is a TiddlyWiki adaptation imitating certain features of Roam to
>> help users easily see connections between their notes and navigate between
>> them. Features include:
>>
>>- bi-directional links,
>>- autocompletion when linking,
>>- renaming of links upon changing tiddler titles,
>>- side-by-side editing of multiple notes.
>>
>> Stroll is the successor to TiddlyBlink. I do not plan to update
>> TiddlyBlink (or its cousin Idea Stew) from here on out, except may be to
>> upgrade to new versions of TiddlyWiki.
>>
>> I have uploaded Stroll to its official home:
>> https://giffmex.org/stroll/stroll.html.
>>
>> I am hoping that its detailed tutorial will help introduce TiddlyWiki to
>> a new generation of non-techy users. I am also hoping that its similarity
>> to Roam will make it attractive to those who enjoy Roam but are concerned
>> about privacy issues for some of their information, or who won't be able to
>> afford Roam when it begins charging a subscription.
>>
>> Thank you to everyone who gave me feedback during the experimental phase,
>> and especially to Saq Imtiaz for creating and adapting his Stories plugin
>> for Stroll's needs. And thanks to all of you *in advance* for your
>> continued feedback and your promotion of Stroll as an easy way of getting
>> people added to the TiddlyWiki community.
>>
>> Blessings.
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Re: [tw5] Re: [Presenting]: STROLL official rollout!

2020-05-08 Thread David Gifford

Hi Martin

On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 9:00 AM Martin Piron  wrote:

> Thank you so much, Dave.
>
> Another thing I noticed (sorry, I hope this is not annoying to you ?)
>

No, not annoying, very helpful. Because TiddlyWiki is so adaptable, there
is no way I can test every possible thing that users will do with it. So I
need to hear these kinds of things in case there are refinements or
instructions I need to put in place.

is that increasing the sidebar width setting while in "fluid story, fixed
> sidebar" layout does not actually extend the sidebar any more, it just
> creates a margin between the story and sidebar. This renders the TiddlyMap
> usage quite challenging...
>

Yes, I think the Stories plugin affects or limits what you can do with the
sidebar/story river measurements. Have you tried also experimenting with
top two measurements in the Control panel > Appearance > Two Story Layout?
Saq has a really wide screen and had it set at 1500px. I have an average
laptop, and had to adjust it to 1100px. I don't know what kind of screen
you are working on, or what you are seeing, so it is hard to offer advice.

TiddlyMap is probably only going to work in one column mode. I think it has
ways of opening up as a separate tiddler, though. Sorry, I haven't worked
much with that plugin.

>
> Is there a setting somewhere in Stroll (I noticed that behavior on a plain
> Stroll file) that fixes the sidebar width disregarding the Sidebar width
> setting in $:/ControlPanel ?
>

See Control panel > Appearance > Two Story Layout should be what you are
looking for.

>
>
> Le vendredi 8 mai 2020 15:35:30 UTC+2, David Gifford a écrit :
>>
>> Hi Martin,
>>
>> On Friday, May 8, 2020 at 3:38:56 AM UTC-5, Martin Piron wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Dave, thanks a lot again for your hard work !
>>>
>>> I noticed that Stroll deactivates (or accelerates too much ?) the
>>> animations normally visible with the "Pop" or "Zoomin" story views. Is that
>>> a desired effect ? I personally quite like the animations and would like to
>>> know if I can have them back :-)
>>>
>>
>> Easy fix. Change the tiddler $:/config/AnimationDuration back to 400.
>>
>>>
>>> Also, the link autocompletion does not show when I use ctrl+space,
>>> neither any key combination that I tried (configured following the
>>> convention defined by the developer here
>>> ).
>>> That bothers me a bit but still, it works with "[[" so...
>>> I'm a little bit annoyed by the fact that this autocompletion plugin
>>> seems not usable with, for example, CodeMirror editor that I like, and that
>>> it does not seem to be possible to click on a completion to accept it
>>> (which would be very useful on a touchscreen).
>>>
>>> That is something to take up with the plugin creator. It works as is for
>> the use case of Stroll, taking notes in TiddlyWiki. I did make a change in
>> the folllowing tiddler. Not sure if that is causing the problem you are
>> seeing. Sorry I can't be of more help than that.
>>
>> $:/plugins/snowgoon88/edit-comptext/config
>>
>>>
>>> Le jeudi 7 mai 2020 17:04:17 UTC+2, David Gifford a écrit :

 Hi everyone

 Stroll is a TiddlyWiki adaptation imitating certain features of Roam to
 help users easily see connections between their notes and navigate between
 them. Features include:

- bi-directional links,
- autocompletion when linking,
- renaming of links upon changing tiddler titles,
- side-by-side editing of multiple notes.

 Stroll is the successor to TiddlyBlink. I do not plan to update
 TiddlyBlink (or its cousin Idea Stew) from here on out, except may be to
 upgrade to new versions of TiddlyWiki.

 I have uploaded Stroll to its official home:
 https://giffmex.org/stroll/stroll.html.

 I am hoping that its detailed tutorial will help introduce TiddlyWiki
 to a new generation of non-techy users. I am also hoping that its
 similarity to Roam will make it attractive to those who enjoy Roam but are
 concerned about privacy issues for some of their information, or who won't
 be able to afford Roam when it begins charging a subscription.

 Thank you to everyone who gave me feedback during the experimental
 phase, and especially to Saq Imtiaz for creating and adapting his Stories
 plugin for Stroll's needs. And thanks to all of you *in advance* for
 your continued feedback and your promotion of Stroll as an easy way of
 getting people added to the TiddlyWiki community.

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Re: [tw5] Re: [Presenting]: STROLL official rollout!

Hi Alexander

H...hopefully someone else can investigate this - I really have very
little experience with node.js. Thanks for bringing this to our attention!


On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 7:01 PM Alexander Williams  wrote:

> On Thursday, May 7, 2020 at 11:04:17 AM UTC-4, David Gifford wrote:
>>
>> Thank you to everyone who gave me feedback during the experimental phase,
>> and especially to Saq Imtiaz for creating and adapting his Stories plugin
>> for Stroll's needs. And thanks to all of you *in advance* for your
>> continued feedback and your promotion of Stroll as an easy way of getting
>> people added to the TiddlyWiki community.
>>
>
> Interestingly, I'm seeing a strange error repeated when I convert it to
> run in Node.js as a wikifolder. To wit:
>
> G:\TiddlyWiki>tiddlywiki Hierarch --listen
> Warning: Plugins required for client-server operation
> ("tiddlywiki/filesystem" and "tiddlywiki/tiddlyweb") are missing from
> tiddlywiki.info file
> Serving on http://127.0.0.1:8080
> (press ctrl-C to exit)
> Blocked attempt to GET /recipes/default/tiddlers/tiddlers.json with
> filter: [all[tiddlers]]
> -[[$:/isEncrypted]] -[prefix[$:/temp/]] -[prefix[$:/status/]]
> Blocked attempt to GET /recipes/default/tiddlers/tiddlers.json with
> filter: [all[tiddlers]]
> -[[$:/isEncrypted]] -[prefix[$:/temp/]] -[prefix[$:/status/]]
> Blocked attempt to GET /recipes/default/tiddlers/tiddlers.json with
> filter: [all[tiddlers]]
> -[[$:/isEncrypted]] -[prefix[$:/temp/]] -[prefix[$:/status/]]
> Blocked attempt to GET /recipes/default/tiddlers/tiddlers.json with
> filter: [all[tiddlers]]
> -[[$:/isEncrypted]] -[prefix[$:/temp/]] -[prefix[$:/status/]]
> Blocked attempt to GET /recipes/default/tiddlers/tiddlers.json with
> filter: [all[tiddlers]]
> -[[$:/isEncrypted]] -[prefix[$:/temp/]] -[prefix[$:/status/]]
>
> Which I'm pretty sure isn't supposed to happen.
>
> Otherwise, it definitely seems to be working.
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Re: [tw5] Re: [Presenting]: STROLL official rollout!

Awesome, Sylvain! I didn't know about that macro, or at least not for this
use case. Fixed! Thank you!


On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 1:08 PM Sylvain Naudin  wrote:

> Hi David,
>
> Just open for the first time and read the documentation quickly.
>
> When I saw the SVG icons in the text, it made me thought about this thread
> with a solution to integrate these icons more harmoniously in the text :
>
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/vmU6ul2UW20/1ZJ2Q4I9BAAJ
> redirect to https://hchaase.github.io/HC-Plugins/#macro%2Ficon
>
>
> Sylvain
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Re: [tw5] Re: [Presenting]: STROLL official rollout!

"Ignore this comment" - Mohammad was this an excerpt from a previous post?
I don't see that post. And yes, I will ignore those comments. :-)

On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 11:07 AM Mohammad  wrote:

> Well done!
> Thanks for sharing!
>
> Ignore this comment:
>
>1. I would put settings under More tab
>2. The pinky eye icon could be theme consistent!
>
>
> Cheers
> Mohammad
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Re: [tw5] Re: [Presenting]: STROLL official rollout!

Hey Robert

I think you are trying to do the transclusion of popups from another of my
pages (https://giffmex.org/gifts/transclusioninpopups.html). That is not
incorporated into Stroll. Add the three tiddlers listed below, but from
that page, and you should be able to do that.
$:/.giffmex/.Stylesheet4popups

$:/.giffmex/EditorToolbar/linkpopups

$:/.giffmex/EditorToolbar/unlinkedpopups





On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 10:53 AM Robert Haisfield 
wrote:

> Also, transclusion doesn't seem to be working properly.  Used this text:
> This is a dummy article.
>
> [[This is a link with a preview|My notes]] class="tooltiptext"><$transclude tiddler="My notes"
> mode="block"/>.
>
> and ended up with transclusion as shown in the image, not as a hover
> preview.
>
>
> On Thursday, May 7, 2020 at 9:34:00 AM UTC-6, Robert Haisfield wrote:
>>
>> Hey! Would love it if the backlinks highlighted in context were rendered
>> rather than the original text, includes things like html for hover
>> previews. See attached image.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, May 7, 2020 at 9:04:17 AM UTC-6, David Gifford wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi everyone
>>>
>>> Stroll is a TiddlyWiki adaptation imitating certain features of Roam to
>>> help users easily see connections between their notes and navigate between
>>> them. Features include:
>>>
>>>- bi-directional links,
>>>- autocompletion when linking,
>>>- renaming of links upon changing tiddler titles,
>>>- side-by-side editing of multiple notes.
>>>
>>> Stroll is the successor to TiddlyBlink. I do not plan to update
>>> TiddlyBlink (or its cousin Idea Stew) from here on out, except may be to
>>> upgrade to new versions of TiddlyWiki.
>>>
>>> I have uploaded Stroll to its official home:
>>> https://giffmex.org/stroll/stroll.html.
>>>
>>> I am hoping that its detailed tutorial will help introduce TiddlyWiki to
>>> a new generation of non-techy users. I am also hoping that its similarity
>>> to Roam will make it attractive to those who enjoy Roam but are concerned
>>> about privacy issues for some of their information, or who won't be able to
>>> afford Roam when it begins charging a subscription.
>>>
>>> Thank you to everyone who gave me feedback during the experimental
>>> phase, and especially to Saq Imtiaz for creating and adapting his Stories
>>> plugin for Stroll's needs. And thanks to all of you *in advance* for
>>> your continued feedback and your promotion of Stroll as an easy way of
>>> getting people added to the TiddlyWiki community.
>>>
>>> Blessings.
>>>
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