Re: [tw5] Re: Tiddly Extension for Firefox 57?

[Vayira]

I've been very happy using waterfox classic as a browser. It is based
on the older firefox code and runs the TiddlyFox extension quite
happily. It also has the advantage of running other extensions that
died when firefox changed such as Tab Mix Plus, which I really missed
when Firefox forcibly removed it from my browser. This doesn't require
installing anything else in the least bit techie to keep your
tiddlywikis alive.

I have two fallbacks in case I loose that option in the future. One is
tiddly desktop, but it doesn't really fit with the way I use TW. I
need it to be in a browser tab. The other is MainTiddlyServer, but
that requires having php installed and running. I discovered I can use
php's internal server & don't need apache and all the security issues
it could create. Installing php isn't so hard.


On Sun, 12 Apr 2020 at 10:40, Boaz Nash  wrote:
>
> Thank you for the response, Yakov.
>
> I have created an issue:
> https://github.com/ibnishak/Timimi/issues/40
>
> Best regards,
> Boaz
>
> On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 7:30 AM Yakov  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Boaz,
>>
>>> I have been saving tiddlywiki changes using timimi for awhile now and it's 
>>> been working great.
>>> Unfortunately, I just updated my MacOS to Catalina, and now when I try to 
>>> save in Firefox, I get the error message
>>> ""timimi" cannot be opened because the developer cannot be verified".
>>> I tried to override this security issue, but I can't seem to figure out how 
>>> to do so.
>>
>>
>> this is not nice indeed. Would you mind opening an issue on Github?
>> Do you remember what version of MacOS did you have before that update? And 
>> what version of Firefox you have now? (the problem took place when you only 
>> updated MacOS, not Firefox, did it?)
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Yakov.
>>
>>> Advice would be appreciated.
>>> Best regards,
>>> Boaz
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 9:58 AM Yakov  wrote:

 Hi Alex,

> I just tried Timimi. Though installation seemed to work (got the "Hello 
> there
> / Have a great day" message) I still get an error message when I try to 
> save
> changes to a TW file.
>
> I removed all other TW related plugins to make sure there weren't any
> conflicts, but no luck.
>
> Maybe I'm doing this wrong though... how do you save? I'm trying to use 
> the
> usual "save changes" links under Admin Tools, should I use something else?


 Hm, have you installed both the browser extension and the native app? The 
 extension page tells to check out installation details in the docs but I 
 guess one may miss the main point (the necessity to install an app besides 
 the extension) since they have to find the installation guide and follow 
 the additional step from there (download the installer for their paltform 
 from releases and launch it). Please let me know if that helps; I'll 
 probably propose some changes to improve this aspect anyway.

> Oh and Yakov, BTW, I tried to post about my saving issues on the TWC list 
> back
> in December, but my mail did not go through because the list is set up as 
> a
> forum rather than a mailing-list.


 Oh, sorry to hear that. I'm not quite sure what's the difference (I always 
 thought that Google Groups are both), but if I can help you somehow, let 
 me know. (have you tried to use it as a forum? is that of very poor user 
 experience for you for some reason?)

 Best regards,
 Yakov.

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Re: [tw5] Re: Tiddly Extension for Firefox 57?

[Boaz Nash]

Thank you for the response, Yakov.

I have created an issue:
https://github.com/ibnishak/Timimi/issues/40

Best regards,
Boaz

On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 7:30 AM Yakov 
wrote:

> Hi Boaz,
>
> I have been saving tiddlywiki changes using timimi for awhile now and it's
>> been working great.
>> Unfortunately, I just updated my MacOS to Catalina, and now when I try to
>> save in Firefox, I get the error message
>> ""timimi" cannot be opened because the developer cannot be verified".
>> I tried to override this security issue, but I can't seem to figure out
>> how to do so.
>>
>
> this is not nice indeed. Would you mind opening an issue on Github
> ?
> Do you remember what version of MacOS did you have before that update? And
> what version of Firefox you have now? (the problem took place when you only
> updated MacOS, not Firefox, did it?)
>
> Best regards,
> Yakov.
>
> Advice would be appreciated.
>> Best regards,
>> Boaz
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 9:58 AM Yakov  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Alex,
>>>
>>> I just tried Timimi. Though installation seemed to work (got the "Hello
 there
 / Have a great day" message) I still get an error message when I try to
 save
 changes to a TW file.

 I removed all other TW related plugins to make sure there weren't any
 conflicts, but no luck.

 Maybe I'm doing this wrong though... how do you save? I'm trying to use
 the
 usual "save changes" links under Admin Tools, should I use something
 else?

>>>
>>> Hm, have you installed both the browser extension and the native app?
>>> The extension page 
>>> tells to check out installation details in the docs but I guess one may
>>> miss the main point (the necessity to install an app besides the extension)
>>> since they have to find the installation guide
>>>  and follow the
>>> additional step from there (download the installer for their paltform from
>>> releases  and launch it).
>>> Please let me know if that helps; I'll probably propose some changes to
>>> improve this aspect anyway.
>>>
>>> Oh and Yakov, BTW, I tried to post about my saving issues on the TWC
 list back
 in December, but my mail did not go through because the list is set up
 as a
 forum rather than a mailing-list.

>>>
>>> Oh, sorry to hear that. I'm not quite sure what's the difference (I
>>> always thought that Google Groups are both), but if I can help you somehow,
>>> let me know. (have you tried to use it as a forum? is that of very poor
>>> user experience for you for some reason?)
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Yakov.
>>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Tiddly Extension for Firefox 57?

[Yakov]

Hi Boaz,

I have been saving tiddlywiki changes using timimi for awhile now and it's 
> been working great.
> Unfortunately, I just updated my MacOS to Catalina, and now when I try to 
> save in Firefox, I get the error message
> ""timimi" cannot be opened because the developer cannot be verified".
> I tried to override this security issue, but I can't seem to figure out 
> how to do so.
>

this is not nice indeed. Would you mind opening an issue on Github 
?
Do you remember what version of MacOS did you have before that update? And 
what version of Firefox you have now? (the problem took place when you only 
updated MacOS, not Firefox, did it?)

Best regards,
Yakov.

Advice would be appreciated.
> Best regards,
> Boaz
>
> On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 9:58 AM Yakov  > wrote:
>
>> Hi Alex,
>>
>> I just tried Timimi. Though installation seemed to work (got the "Hello 
>>> there 
>>> / Have a great day" message) I still get an error message when I try to 
>>> save 
>>> changes to a TW file. 
>>>
>>> I removed all other TW related plugins to make sure there weren't any 
>>> conflicts, but no luck. 
>>>
>>> Maybe I'm doing this wrong though... how do you save? I'm trying to use 
>>> the 
>>> usual "save changes" links under Admin Tools, should I use something 
>>> else? 
>>>
>>
>> Hm, have you installed both the browser extension and the native app? The 
>> extension 
>> page  tells to 
>> check out installation details in the docs but I guess one may miss the 
>> main point (the necessity to install an app besides the extension) since 
>> they have to find the installation guide 
>>  and follow the 
>> additional step from there (download the installer for their paltform from 
>> releases  and launch it). 
>> Please let me know if that helps; I'll probably propose some changes to 
>> improve this aspect anyway.
>>
>> Oh and Yakov, BTW, I tried to post about my saving issues on the TWC list 
>>> back 
>>> in December, but my mail did not go through because the list is set up 
>>> as a 
>>> forum rather than a mailing-list. 
>>>
>>  
>> Oh, sorry to hear that. I'm not quite sure what's the difference (I 
>> always thought that Google Groups are both), but if I can help you somehow, 
>> let me know. (have you tried to use it as a forum? is that of very poor 
>> user experience for you for some reason?)
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Yakov.
>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Tiddly Extension for Firefox 57?

[Boaz Nash]

Hi all,

I have been saving tiddlywiki changes using timimi for awhile now and it's
been working great.
Unfortunately, I just updated my MacOS to Catalina, and now when I try to
save in Firefox, I get the error message
""timimi" cannot be opened because the developer cannot be verified".
I tried to override this security issue, but I can't seem to figure out how
to do so.
Advice would be appreciated.
Best regards,
Boaz

On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 9:58 AM Yakov 
wrote:

> Hi Alex,
>
> I just tried Timimi. Though installation seemed to work (got the "Hello
>> there
>> / Have a great day" message) I still get an error message when I try to
>> save
>> changes to a TW file.
>>
>> I removed all other TW related plugins to make sure there weren't any
>> conflicts, but no luck.
>>
>> Maybe I'm doing this wrong though... how do you save? I'm trying to use
>> the
>> usual "save changes" links under Admin Tools, should I use something
>> else?
>>
>
> Hm, have you installed both the browser extension and the native app? The 
> extension
> page  tells to check
> out installation details in the docs but I guess one may miss the main
> point (the necessity to install an app besides the extension) since they
> have to find the installation guide
>  and follow the
> additional step from there (download the installer for their paltform from
> releases  and launch it).
> Please let me know if that helps; I'll probably propose some changes to
> improve this aspect anyway.
>
> Oh and Yakov, BTW, I tried to post about my saving issues on the TWC list
>> back
>> in December, but my mail did not go through because the list is set up as
>> a
>> forum rather than a mailing-list.
>>
>
> Oh, sorry to hear that. I'm not quite sure what's the difference (I always
> thought that Google Groups are both), but if I can help you somehow, let me
> know. (have you tried to use it as a forum? is that of very poor user
> experience for you for some reason?)
>
> Best regards,
> Yakov.
>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Tiddly Extension for Firefox 57?

[Yakov]

Hi Alex,

I just tried Timimi. Though installation seemed to work (got the "Hello 
> there 
> / Have a great day" message) I still get an error message when I try to 
> save 
> changes to a TW file. 
>
> I removed all other TW related plugins to make sure there weren't any 
> conflicts, but no luck. 
>
> Maybe I'm doing this wrong though... how do you save? I'm trying to use 
> the 
> usual "save changes" links under Admin Tools, should I use something else? 
>

Hm, have you installed both the browser extension and the native app? The 
extension 
page  tells to check 
out installation details in the docs but I guess one may miss the main 
point (the necessity to install an app besides the extension) since they 
have to find the installation guide 
 and follow the 
additional step from there (download the installer for their paltform from 
releases  and launch it). 
Please let me know if that helps; I'll probably propose some changes to 
improve this aspect anyway.

Oh and Yakov, BTW, I tried to post about my saving issues on the TWC list 
> back 
> in December, but my mail did not go through because the list is set up as 
> a 
> forum rather than a mailing-list. 
>
 
Oh, sorry to hear that. I'm not quite sure what's the difference (I always 
thought that Google Groups are both), but if I can help you somehow, let me 
know. (have you tried to use it as a forum? is that of very poor user 
experience for you for some reason?)

Best regards,
Yakov.

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Re: [tw5] Re: Tiddly Extension for Firefox 57?

[Vayira]

Hi Tony I just looked for TW-Reciever and found it on github. It doesn't
say there if it will work with TW classic. Do you know?


On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 at 20:25, TonyM  wrote:

> Alex,
>
> That's good, I just know that has being the mistake of many.
>
> Please consider starting a new thread on this problem because it is
> clearly and exception to the old TiddlyFox problems.
>
> You may find it useful if you have not already to start with a fresh
> tiddlywiki and see if you can experience the almost seamless use of Timimi,
> or move to one of a number of node solutions, or TW-Reciever on php. Once
> you have experienced the "Modern" you will have a better understanding and
> it will be easier to address a specific wiki failing to save.
>
> Portableapps.com has a portable firefox if the problem could be in your
> install of firefox.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Wednesday, March 25, 2020 at 10:04:56 AM UTC+11, Alex S. Garcia wrote:
>>
>> > "save changes" links under Admin Tools must be within TiddlyWiki not
>> > Browser menus!
>>
>> Browser menus? I have no idea what you're talking about.
>>
>> Admin Tools is in the right-side menu within TiddlyWiki.
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Tiddly Extension for Firefox 57?

[TonyM]

Alex,

That's good, I just know that has being the mistake of many. 

Please consider starting a new thread on this problem because it is clearly 
and exception to the old TiddlyFox problems. 

You may find it useful if you have not already to start with a fresh 
tiddlywiki and see if you can experience the almost seamless use of Timimi, 
or move to one of a number of node solutions, or TW-Reciever on php. Once 
you have experienced the "Modern" you will have a better understanding and 
it will be easier to address a specific wiki failing to save.

Portableapps.com has a portable firefox if the problem could be in your 
install of firefox.

Regards
Tony

On Wednesday, March 25, 2020 at 10:04:56 AM UTC+11, Alex S. Garcia wrote:
>
> > "save changes" links under Admin Tools must be within TiddlyWiki not 
> > Browser menus! 
>
> Browser menus? I have no idea what you're talking about. 
>
> Admin Tools is in the right-side menu within TiddlyWiki. 
>
>
>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Tiddly Extension for Firefox 57?

[Alex S. Garcia]

> "save changes" links under Admin Tools must be within TiddlyWiki not
> Browser menus!

Browser menus? I have no idea what you're talking about.

Admin Tools is in the right-side menu within TiddlyWiki.



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Re: [tw5] Re: Tiddly Extension for Firefox 57?

[TonyM]

To be clear,

"save changes" links under Admin Tools must be within TiddlyWiki not 
Browser menus!

Regards
Tony

On Wednesday, March 25, 2020 at 5:09:16 AM UTC+11, Alex S. Garcia wrote:
>
> >- yes, Timimi works with it in modern FireFox (with several minor 
> >issues, but generally it works even better than TiddlyFox) 
>
> I just tried Timimi. Though installation seemed to work (got the "Hello 
> there 
> / Have a great day" message) I still get an error message when I try to 
> save 
> changes to a TW file. 
>
> I removed all other TW related plugins to make sure there weren't any 
> conflicts, but no luck. 
>
> Maybe I'm doing this wrong though... how do you save? I'm trying to use 
> the 
> usual "save changes" links under Admin Tools, should I use something else? 
>
> Oh and Yakov, BTW, I tried to post about my saving issues on the TWC list 
> back 
> in December, but my mail did not go through because the list is set up as 
> a 
> forum rather than a mailing-list. 
>
>
>
> Alex. 
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Re: [tw5] Re: Tiddly Extension for Firefox 57?

[Vayira]

I'm experimenting with MainTiddlyServer as an option as it will never
depend on browsers & extensions etc and works locally and remotely with a
single 70k file. https://yakovl.github.io/MainTiddlyServer/index.html
It works like a dream on my remote server. On my local server I got 2 kinds
of error messages, but because I understand php I was able to fix them.
They didn't affect functionality however.

To run it locally you need php installed. I've opted for installing php
alone & using its internal server so that I don't need to run apache.

On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 at 14:09, Alex S. Garcia  wrote:

> >- yes, Timimi works with it in modern FireFox (with several minor
> >issues, but generally it works even better than TiddlyFox)
>
> I just tried Timimi. Though installation seemed to work (got the "Hello
> there
> / Have a great day" message) I still get an error message when I try to
> save
> changes to a TW file.
>
> I removed all other TW related plugins to make sure there weren't any
> conflicts, but no luck.
>
> Maybe I'm doing this wrong though... how do you save? I'm trying to use
> the
> usual "save changes" links under Admin Tools, should I use something else?
>
> Oh and Yakov, BTW, I tried to post about my saving issues on the TWC list
> back
> in December, but my mail did not go through because the list is set up as
> a
> forum rather than a mailing-list.
>
>
>
> Alex.
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Re: [tw5] Re: Tiddly Extension for Firefox 57?

[Alex S. Garcia]

>- yes, Timimi works with it in modern FireFox (with several minor
>issues, but generally it works even better than TiddlyFox)

I just tried Timimi. Though installation seemed to work (got the "Hello there 
/ Have a great day" message) I still get an error message when I try to save 
changes to a TW file.

I removed all other TW related plugins to make sure there weren't any 
conflicts, but no luck.

Maybe I'm doing this wrong though... how do you save? I'm trying to use the 
usual "save changes" links under Admin Tools, should I use something else?

Oh and Yakov, BTW, I tried to post about my saving issues on the TWC list back 
in December, but my mail did not go through because the list is set up as a 
forum rather than a mailing-list.



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Re: [tw5] Re: Tiddly Extension for Firefox 57?

[Yakov]

Hi everybody,

considering TiddlyWiki Classic:

   - yes, Timimi works with it in modern FireFox (with several minor 
   issues, but generally it works even better than TiddlyFox)
   - yes, I and Mark Kerrigan recently put most of the saving methods 
   together at 
   https://classic.tiddlywiki.com/#%5B%5BSetting%20up%20saving%5D%5D . In the 
   future that one will probably be simplified (for instance, once I adapt 
   Timimi to Chrome there probably will be no much need in other extensions, 
   except for cases of strict security limitations; yet the richer ecosystem 
   is, the better)
  - old FireFox (pre 54) with TiddlyFox is also an option, it's just 
  somewhat outdated, so is not included into the list
  - if you need more assistance, I invite you to the 
   https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/tiddlywikiclassic group
   - I haven't tested Beaker Browse, so if anybody shares experience of 
   using it with TWC (especially in the TWC group), I'll be thankful
   
Best regards,

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Re: [tw5] Re: Tiddly Extension for Firefox 57?

[Birthe C]

It should work, you will find it listed 
https://classic.tiddlywiki.com/#%5B%5BSetting%20up%20saving%5D%5D

Birthe


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> Does timimi work with TW classic or only TW5? 
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Re: [tw5] Re: Tiddly Extension for Firefox 57?

[Vayira]

Does timimi work with TW classic or only TW5?

On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 at 00:17, Birthe C  wrote:

> Alex,
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> Please do not give up before trying Timimi. Look here for the extra step
> needed https://ibnishak.github.io/Timimi/#Installing%20Timimi
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Re: [tw5] Re: Tiddly Extension for Firefox 57?

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Alex,

Please do not give up before trying Timimi. Look here for the extra step 
needed https://ibnishak.github.io/Timimi/#Installing%20Timimi

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Re: [tw5] Re: Tiddly Extension for Firefox 57?

[TonyM]

Alex,

With respect I think you only have the problem because you possibly have 
not explored all the currently available solutions. Don't try and use 
obsolete plugins.

There are arguably too many ways to save your tiddlywiki now. 

Please start a new thread and *explain what you want to do*, rather than 
tell us about what is not working when you are using possibly obsolete 
solutions. TiddlyFox died with FF 57+ Timimi is the replacement on Windows, 
others exist for Linux or specific browsers. Personally I also host mine on 
an apache server with tw-receiver, which can be done on linux. But node may 
be your best bet

TiddlyDesktop apparently has a way to share the wikis at local host so you 
can access them with iny browser
Node, bob/bob,exe all allow you to edit and save as to the various saver 
solutions around.

Look at TiddlyServer https://arlen22.github.io/tiddlyserver/

Regards
Tony



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> > Why would you say "I might have to drop using TW entirely"? 
>
> Because if I can't save changes to TW, then TW becomes useless. 
>
> > *The title and leading posts are out of date and no longer relevant. 
> Almost 
> > 3 years OLD* 
> > [...] 
> > but if you are browser junkie what problem do you have? 
>
> To your point, I am indeed using an even more recent version of Firefox 
> (68.4.1esr) but that doesn't make the issue any less relevant. Plugin is 
> still 
> broken and I still can't save changes. 
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Re: [tw5] Re: Tiddly Extension for Firefox 57?

[PMario]

On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 5:05:41 PM UTC+1, Alex S. Garcia wrote:

To your point, I am indeed using an even more recent version of Firefox 
> (68.4.1esr) but that doesn't make the issue any less relevant. Plugin is 
> still 
> broken and I still can't save changes. 
>

You can use the file-backups AddOn with FireFox, which will allow you to 
save TWs to the browser "downloads" directory _and_ their subfolders. 

The plugin should work with: 68.4.1. ESR  ... 

The "downloads folder" limitation was introduced by all browser vendors, 
due to security concerns for "direct save" to other locations. ... 

At the moment I'm investigating a different possibility using the Cliqz 
browser, which is based on FireFox. It allows to use a "future" but 
experimental API, which should allow us, to use the whole "directory space" 
again. ... After a confirmation dialogue. 

The AddOn can be found at: 
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/file-backups/   
The info contains a link to its homepage

have fun!
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Re: [tw5] Re: Tiddly Extension for Firefox 57?

[Alex S. Garcia]

> Why would you say "I might have to drop using TW entirely"?

Because if I can't save changes to TW, then TW becomes useless.

> *The title and leading posts are out of date and no longer relevant. Almost
> 3 years OLD*
> [...]
> but if you are browser junkie what problem do you have?

To your point, I am indeed using an even more recent version of Firefox 
(68.4.1esr) but that doesn't make the issue any less relevant. Plugin is still 
broken and I still can't save changes.



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Re: [tw5] Re: Tiddly Extension for Firefox 57?

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Alex,

Why would you say "I might have to drop using TW entirely"?

*The title and leading posts are out of date and no longer relevant. Almost 
3 years OLD*

I like TiddlyDesktop because I can launch programs and windows explorer 
etc.. in it, I am sure you may be able to launch shell scripts and more. It 
has its place but if you are browser junkie what problem do you have?

Regards
Tony

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> I just downloaded TiddlyDesktop and gave it a shot. It's interesting. 
> Could 
> help as a temporary workaround, though I can't see myself using this 
> indefinitely. It's nowhere near as convenient as editing it in my browser. 
> I 
> might have to drop using TW entirely, though not sure yet what I'd replace 
> it 
> with :( 
>
> BTW, I'm noticing that some stuff doesn't work in TiddlyDesktop. Like 
> clicking 
> on the "Settings", "Help" and "Backstage" buttons at the top. I'm using 
> v0.0.13 for linux. 
>
>
>
> Alex. 
>
>
> On samedi 21 mars 2020 15:36:34 CET 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki wrote: 
> > I can understand that fans of FF want to continue using FF. But if 
> you're 
> > on a desktop, and having to use Beaker, Waterfox, or an old version of 
> FF, 
> > why not just use TiddlyDesktop ? 
> > 
> > On Saturday, October 28, 2017 at 2:33:51 AM UTC-7, Norm Davis wrote: 
> > > Firefox and Tiddly have long been great companions, but Firefox is 
> going 
> > > sideways and the old Firefox Tiddly extension for saving in the new 
> > > Firefox 
> > > 57 doesn't work.  Will there be anyone working on a rewrite or a new 
> > > extension?  Hope so!  Thanks for any helpful info. 
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Re: [tw5] Re: Tiddly Extension for Firefox 57?

[Alex S. Garcia]

I just downloaded TiddlyDesktop and gave it a shot. It's interesting. Could 
help as a temporary workaround, though I can't see myself using this 
indefinitely. It's nowhere near as convenient as editing it in my browser. I 
might have to drop using TW entirely, though not sure yet what I'd replace it 
with :(

BTW, I'm noticing that some stuff doesn't work in TiddlyDesktop. Like clicking 
on the "Settings", "Help" and "Backstage" buttons at the top. I'm using 
v0.0.13 for linux.



Alex.


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> I can understand that fans of FF want to continue using FF. But if you're
> on a desktop, and having to use Beaker, Waterfox, or an old version of FF,
> why not just use TiddlyDesktop ?
> 
> On Saturday, October 28, 2017 at 2:33:51 AM UTC-7, Norm Davis wrote:
> > Firefox and Tiddly have long been great companions, but Firefox is going
> > sideways and the old Firefox Tiddly extension for saving in the new
> > Firefox
> > 57 doesn't work.  Will there be anyone working on a rewrite or a new
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Re: [tw5] Re: Tiddly Extension for Firefox 57?

[TonyM]

Mark

I think people may be clining onto extensions within Firefox no longer 
available since around v57, so tiddlydesktop does not have these extensions, 
however at least some of the former extensions have being re released in 
firefox.

I sympathise with ff and its extensions but I no longer resort to pre v 57. 
This is my current usage.

Everyday I use ff timimi, tiddlydesktop, tiddlyserver and bobexe according to 
the particular need. Typically I use chrome to access single function wikis at 
a network address including SharePoint hosted.

Regards
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Re: [tw5] Re: Tiddly Extension for Firefox 57?

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On Saturday, March 21, 2020 at 9:19:33 AM UTC-7, vayira wrote:
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> Because TiddlyDesktop is not a browser and the having TW in a browser tab 
> is so useful. 
>
>
>
How so? Sure, it it's in the same browser that you do all your regular 
browsing in. But if you need a special browser, then why not use 
TiddlyDesktop? 

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Re: [tw5] Re: Tiddly Extension for Firefox 57?

[Vayira]

Because TiddlyDesktop is not a browser and the having TW in a browser tab
is so useful.

On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 at 10:36, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
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> I can understand that fans of FF want to continue using FF. But if you're
> on a desktop, and having to use Beaker, Waterfox, or an old version of FF,
> why not just use TiddlyDesktop ?
>
> On Saturday, October 28, 2017 at 2:33:51 AM UTC-7, Norm Davis wrote:
>>
>>
>> Firefox and Tiddly have long been great companions, but Firefox is going
>> sideways and the old Firefox Tiddly extension for saving in the new Firefox
>> 57 doesn't work.  Will there be anyone working on a rewrite or a new
>> extension?  Hope so!  Thanks for any helpful info.
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Re: [tw5] Re: Tiddly Extension for Firefox 57?

[TonyM]

I just want to add, the apocalypse is over a long time ago

Timimi works as well as TiddlyFox, if not better, on the latest firefox, 

Regards
Tony

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> Ah, Victor, glad to hear!
>
> Julio
>
> On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 1:01:55 PM UTC-4, VÍCTOR wrote:
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>> Thank you Julio, I'm exploring now Beaker Browse, it seems it works very 
>> well
>>
>>
>>
>> Victor
>>
>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Tiddly Extension for Firefox 57?

[Julio Peña]

Ah, Victor, glad to hear!

Julio

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> Thank you Julio, I'm exploring now Beaker Browse, it seems it works very 
> well
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> Victor
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Re: [tw5] Re: Tiddly Extension for Firefox 57?

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Thank you Julio, I'm exploring now Beaker Browse, it seems it works
very well



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