Re: [time-nuts] Opera coordinator has resigned

2012-04-01 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 03/31/12 09:38 PM, Jim Lux wrote: On 3/31/12 1:15 PM, Brooke Clarke wrote: Hi Achim: SMA RF connectors have a very limited life (number of matings) until they are worn out. I don't think so. Yes, they're only rated for 500 cycles, but there's a paper by a guy at Maury Microwave that I ran

Re: [time-nuts] Coax Connectors (was Re: Opera coordinator has resigned)

2012-04-01 Thread Azelio Boriani
Yes, I recommend using MCX/SMB. We use MCX, SMB and MMCX but the MMCX in my opinion is to avoid. On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 12:13 AM, Magnus Danielson mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org wrote: On 03/31/2012 10:08 PM, Javier Serrano wrote: On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 9:24 PM, Achim

Re: [time-nuts] 1 pps correction

2012-04-01 Thread Azelio Boriani
Said, how complex is your 20pS time interval counter? Is it analog, FPGA, something else (if you can disclose some info, of course)? On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 11:44 PM, Hal Murray hmur...@megapathdsl.netwrote: mar...@ptsyst.com said: I’ve seen that the peak to peak jitter is reduced from

Re: [time-nuts] Coax Connectors (was Re: Opera coordinator has resigned)

2012-04-01 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 04/01/2012 01:01 PM, Azelio Boriani wrote: Yes, I recommend using MCX/SMB. We use MCX, SMB and MMCX but the MMCX in my opinion is to avoid. MMCX might be used in internal connections. Cheers, Magnus ___ time-nuts mailing list --

Re: [time-nuts] CW12-TIM vs M12M and the world

2012-04-01 Thread Ulrich Bangert
Hello Ernie, please allow me to correct your use of my first name. It is Ulrich and not Ulbrich. I attach great importance to this difference because a certain Walter Ulbricht was one of the leading politicians in the communist terror regime of the former so called German Democratic Republic and

Re: [time-nuts] Opera coordinator has resigned

2012-04-01 Thread Jim Lux
On 4/1/12 3:01 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: On 03/31/12 09:38 PM, Jim Lux wrote: On 3/31/12 1:15 PM, Brooke Clarke wrote: Hi Achim: SMA RF connectors have a very limited life (number of matings) until they are worn out. I don't think so. Yes, they're only rated for 500 cycles, but there's a

Re: [time-nuts] Opera coordinator has resigned

2012-04-01 Thread J. Forster
If you think about it, tightening torque only relates very roughly to axial mating pressure. Torque is essentially the force requires to push an object up an inclined plane. That is the sum of two components, the normal component of the mating force plus the in plane component of (mating

Re: [time-nuts] Coax Connectors (was Re: Opera coordinator has resigned)

2012-04-01 Thread Azelio Boriani
Yes we use it for the GPS antenna internal connection then on the panel we use the N connector. Anyway the MMCX seems so sloppy... not robust and steady as a MCX. On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Magnus Danielson mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org wrote: On 04/01/2012 01:01 PM, Azelio Boriani wrote:

[time-nuts] HP Z3801A Sale

2012-04-01 Thread Arthur Dent
Hal Murray hmurray at megapathdsl.net Would you please say more?  Or post pictures? Where did you find a 200 ms PPS pulse? The circuitry I added takes the narrow positive going timing pulse (2V/25us) on pin 2 of the surface mounted Lucent 1141 IC (U5) near the DB25 output connector on the main

Re: [time-nuts] CW12-TIM vs M12M and the world

2012-04-01 Thread Azelio Boriani
Thank you for sharing your filter implementation. I'll study it. On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Ulrich Bangert df...@ulrich-bangert.dewrote: Hello Ernie, please allow me to correct your use of my first name. It is Ulrich and not Ulbrich. I attach great importance to this difference because

[time-nuts] Efratom M3100

2012-04-01 Thread EWKehren
In the past I have asked if some one has any info of the Efratom M3100. I have carefully dissected the unit and checked functionality. It sweeps but does not lock. Lamp signal is strong 60 MHz and 5.xx all work properly and can be seen on a spectrum analyzer The problem is in the loop and

Re: [time-nuts] Efratom M3100

2012-04-01 Thread paul swed
Strange indeed Bert I put the whole number into google and had 5 hits. The first number is actually JM then the number but its a quad voltage comparator according to the data archive. pdf is available and looks like numbers of manufacturers made it. PMI TI Nat nalog dev. They are still available

Re: [time-nuts] Efratom M3100

2012-04-01 Thread EWKehren
Paul thank you. I tried google and only got links to advertise other parts. Makes sense, unit has a summary bit output, probably checks 4 levels and gives a lock output. Different from M100 and other Efratom products. Still hunting for the 85 Hz, 127 Hz on the M100 is 5V pp into the phase

Re: [time-nuts] Efratom M3100

2012-04-01 Thread Michael Blazer
The JM38510/11201BCA crosses to a LM139 which is the Mil-Spec version of the LM339. Mike On 4/1/2012 2:39 PM, ewkeh...@aol.com wrote: Paul thank you. I tried google and only got links to advertise other parts. Makes sense, unit has a summary bit output, probably checks 4 levels and gives

Re: [time-nuts] Efratom M3100

2012-04-01 Thread EWKehren
Thanks Mike In a message dated 4/1/2012 4:33:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mbla...@satx.rr.com writes: The JM38510/11201BCA crosses to a LM139 which is the Mil-Spec version of the LM339. Mike On 4/1/2012 2:39 PM, ewkeh...@aol.com wrote: Paul thank you. I tried google and only

Re: [time-nuts] Opera coordinator has resigned

2012-04-01 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 04/ 1/12 03:33 PM, Jim Lux wrote: On 4/1/12 3:01 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: On 03/31/12 09:38 PM, Jim Lux wrote: I don't think so. Yes, they're only rated for 500 cycles, but there's a paper by a guy at Maury Microwave that I ran across when trying to get statistics on the reflection

Re: [time-nuts] 1 pps correction

2012-04-01 Thread Azelio Boriani
Agreed. The TBolt is the best. On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 9:10 PM, shali...@gmail.com wrote: The need for sawtooth correction comes from the fact that standalone GPS receivers use a standard clock oscillator that is basically fixed frequency (save for temperature and other fluctuations) and their

[time-nuts] 60Hz More or Less

2012-04-01 Thread Ed Mersich
My Heathkit, and other AC clocks have been broken for months now. I started a project to figure out how bad it was. It's getting interesting as I am approaching my goal of coding a software emulation of an AC line clock. During the process I developed a couple of web pages to help me understand

Re: [time-nuts] Efratom M3100

2012-04-01 Thread Magnus Danielson
Bert, On 04/01/2012 07:50 PM, ewkeh...@aol.com wrote: In the past I have asked if some one has any info of the Efratom M3100. I have carefully dissected the unit and checked functionality. It sweeps but does not lock. Lamp signal is strong 60 MHz and 5.xx all work properly and can be seen on

[time-nuts] Fail on HP5065A PSU repair

2012-04-01 Thread Magnus Danielson
Fellow time-nuts, I'm sure you all have done this at least once. Repaired something up, feeling happy about it, slap it in and then if fails on you again. The transformer in the DC-DC converter failed again. Popped the lid even. *sigh* I think I will have to rebuild that from scratch.

Re: [time-nuts] 60Hz More or Less

2012-04-01 Thread Tom Van Baak
Hi Ed, Welcome to the group and thanks for sharing that 60 Hz mains project. Nice use of a 5316B and Prologix adapter to collect the frequency data and Python and JavaScript to display live plots. Is there a URL for the raw data files (the YYYMMMDDHH.DAT files mentioned in code_2.txt)? I'd like

Re: [time-nuts] Fail on HP5065A PSU repair

2012-04-01 Thread paul swed
Yes thats what makes old gear fun. It costs $0 up front and lots of time ongoing. :-) On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 7:44 PM, Magnus Danielson mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org wrote: Fellow time-nuts, I'm sure you all have done this at least once. Repaired something up, feeling happy about it, slap it in

Re: [time-nuts] Opera coordinator has resigned

2012-04-01 Thread Jim Lux
On 4/1/12 2:25 PM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: On 04/ 1/12 03:33 PM, Jim Lux wrote: On 4/1/12 3:01 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: On 03/31/12 09:38 PM, Jim Lux wrote: I don't think so. Yes, they're only rated for 500 cycles, but there's a paper by a guy at Maury Microwave that I ran across when

Re: [time-nuts] 60Hz More or Less

2012-04-01 Thread Bill Hawkins
Ed, Your old signal generator frequency is regulated by stable components. The power grid frequency cannot be regulated because it is distributed over thousands of generators. Mathematical models are not stable, as people switch loads on and off. Regulation is done by human dispatchers calling

Re: [time-nuts] 60Hz More or Less

2012-04-01 Thread Randy D. Hunt
On 4/1/2012 3:18 PM, Ed Mersich wrote: My Heathkit, and other AC clocks have been broken for months now. I started a project to figure out how bad it was. It's getting interesting as I am approaching my goal of coding a software emulation of an AC line clock. During the process I developed a

Re: [time-nuts] Efratom M3100

2012-04-01 Thread EWKehren
Magnus I am systematically checking every thing. Power is every where, get a very strong 60 MHz with the 5.3125 clearly visible on the spectrum analyzer also counted both with a counter, checked the 85 Hz modulation on the tuning diode, is a small signal but the same on my working M 100.

Re: [time-nuts] Fail on HP5065A PSU repair

2012-04-01 Thread Randy D. Hunt
On 4/1/2012 4:53 PM, paul swed wrote: Yes thats what makes old gear fun. It costs $0 up front and lots of time ongoing. :-) On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 7:44 PM, Magnus Danielsonmag...@rubidium.dyndns.org wrote: Fellow time-nuts, I'm sure you all have done this at least once. Repaired something up,

Re: [time-nuts] 60Hz More or Less

2012-04-01 Thread Eric Lemmon
Ed, Perhaps it is more important that the mains have long-term accuracy, rather than short-term stability. That is, there should not be any increasing error in the time shown on an analog clock, and ideally it should never be more than a few seconds slow or fast. Major load shifts that cause

Re: [time-nuts] 60Hz More or Less

2012-04-01 Thread Tom Van Baak
I used to have a webpage bookmarked where they did this. The author of the page hooked up a hydrogen maser to an HP3325b set to 60 Hz then drove an HP bipolar amplifier with the 3325 to drive a mechanical flip clock at 100 VAC @ 60.00 Hz. Interesting page, is billed as Worlds most

Re: [time-nuts] 60Hz More or Less

2012-04-01 Thread randy hunt
That's it!! From: Tom Van Baak t...@leapsecond.com To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Sun, April 1, 2012 5:59:11 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 60Hz More or Less I used to have a webpage bookmarked where they did

Re: [time-nuts] 1 pps correction

2012-04-01 Thread Said Jackson
Hi Azelio, its a dual slope interpolator, much like the HP 5334A counter. In fact the 5334A service manual is very nice to go through to get lectured on how this works. The capture hardware is similar to the Linear Tech app note written by Jim Williams (mentioned in the time nuts archives).

Re: [time-nuts] Fail on HP5065A PSU repair

2012-04-01 Thread J. L. Trantham
Magnus, If you are referring to the A15 board, I may have a spare. I have been collecting parts for a couple of years and I *think* have everything except the A12A1 Spectral Lamp Oscillator Assembly. I have found some dead parts on some boards that I have replaced and, as best I can tell from