Re: [time-nuts] GPS down converter question

2015-12-01 Thread paul swed
Digikey was a strike out with 1 filter for 86 cents but order was 1000 units. Mouser however has a wide assortment very reasonable and by the single units. Hardest thing will be soldering them. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 8:29 PM, paul swed <paulsw...@gmail.com> wrote: &

Re: [time-nuts] GPS down converter question

2015-12-01 Thread paul swed
for the 75 MHz IF. Since I will believe the actual antenna has a 1571 filter in it I was thinking of skipping it down in the shack. Will see what digikey and mouser has in the way of filters and if inexpensive may buy one. I keep thinking I may actually have one also. Thanks again everyone. Paul

Re: [time-nuts] GPS down converter question

2015-12-01 Thread paul swed
nking. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 1:36 AM, Magnus Danielson <mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org > wrote: > Hi, > > This is a side-track to Pauls original question, but maybe a nice little > point to make now that Peter touched on the subject. > > To elaborate a little on

[time-nuts] GPS down converter question

2015-11-30 Thread paul swed
I am looking at building a GPS down converter. LO 1500 Mhz locked to a 10 MHz ref. The IF will be at 75.42 Mhz how wide should it be? My question is simple. What should the IF pass band bandwidth be? Not sure if it should be 3-4 Mhz, 10 or 15 wide. Thanks Paul WB8TSL

Re: [time-nuts] GPS down converter question

2015-11-30 Thread paul swed
IF. There are some things to work through but they seem reasonable. Regards Paul. WB8TSL On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 5:02 PM, Magnus Danielson < mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org> wrote: > Paul, > > Many GPS receivers only use 2,046 MHz bandwidth, but some use the full > 20,46 MHz even if they only do C/A.

Re: [time-nuts] Need tiny 5MHz 10x amplifier

2015-11-28 Thread paul swed
The tl712cp works at 5 v and is self biased. Using one on the wwvb receiver to convert a 10 Mhz sine wave to square. 5V to 3.3 is pretty easy to convert. Maybe they make a 3.3V version. Paul WB8TSL On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 7:35 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp <p...@phk.freebsd.dk> wrote: &g

Re: [time-nuts] KD2BD WWVB receiver/decoder in QEX

2015-11-26 Thread paul swed
. Happy Thanks giving to everyone. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 7:41 PM, paul swed <paulsw...@gmail.com> wrote: > Charles great suggestion on the NE5532. Just bread boarded the first > section of the receiver very quickly and the component values work as is. > Thats al

Re: [time-nuts] ACAM GP22 Chip

2015-11-24 Thread paul swed
really well but only good for each drivers delay. Others will have better answers. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 9:04 AM, Thomas Allgeier <th.allge...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > > > > I have an ACAM GP22 TDC chip and evaluation board which I am looking at >

Re: [time-nuts] KD2BD WWVB receiver/decoder in QEX

2015-11-23 Thread paul swed
. Ah the smell of burning insulation and flux in the evening. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 1:28 PM, paul swed <paulsw...@gmail.com> wrote: > Charles I did see the slew rates and bandwidth and came to the conclusion > those were not issues. Thats why I will build up a test

Re: [time-nuts] KD2BD WWVB receiver/decoder in QEX

2015-11-23 Thread paul swed
the implications may be. Also post down conversion to 10 Khz I was scratching my head as to why not the TL08X series. Still a good job and glad it was shared. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 5:02 AM, Charles Steinmetz <csteinm...@yandex.com> wrote: > Paul wrote: > > It appears t

Re: [time-nuts] KD2BD WWVB receiver/decoder in QEX

2015-11-23 Thread paul swed
the LMC6484s. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 12:16 PM, Charles Steinmetz <csteinm...@yandex.com> wrote: > Paul wrote: > > post down conversion to 10 Khz I was scratching my head as to why not >> the TL08X series. >> > > Input voltage noise. Unle

Re: [time-nuts] KD2BD WWVB receiver/decoder in QEX

2015-11-22 Thread paul swed
and LM387n at reasonable prices for small quantities. Most likely will order from there. Have not checked out the PIC chip yet. The 74HCXX are common and reasonable. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 10:40 AM, Rob Sherwood. <r...@nc0b.com> wrote: > This circuit can cope with the phase

Re: [time-nuts] KD2BD WWVB receiver/decoder in QEX

2015-11-21 Thread paul swed
what was on hand. Same with the very wide range of opamps. That said its a very up to date wwvb receiver. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 6:29 PM, Tim Shoppa <tsho...@gmail.com> wrote: > Nov/Dec 2015 QEX has KD2BD's WWVB-based standard and decoder nicely written > up. >

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt "osc age alarm", where to get replacement oscillator?

2015-11-13 Thread paul swed
Pete, I would doubt anything is directly available. But if there is hope for some hack its certainly here from my experience. Hack may be the actual reality. Got a saw? Good luck because one day sooner then later I suspect I will ask the same question. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Fri, Nov 13, 2015

Re: [time-nuts] Oooold GPS receiver discussions Austron 2201 as an xample

2015-11-12 Thread paul swed
to the original converter. It has operated well in the past. The starlink itself is working very well good S/N etc. So that tends to reduce the possibilities for the issue. Regards Paul. On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 9:42 PM, Charles Steinmetz <csteinm...@yandex.com> wrote: > Paul wrote: > > Ind

Re: [time-nuts] Oooold GPS receiver discussions Austron 2201 as an xample

2015-11-11 Thread paul swed
it to track a satellite and it does. Though even at that it seems to have issues I speculate as poor signal to noise. So may have to do some digging. Thanks Paul. On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 9:06 PM, Magnus Danielson < mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org> wrote: > Paul, > > On 11/10/2015 08:5

[time-nuts] Oooold GPS receiver discussions Austron 2201 as an xample

2015-11-10 Thread paul swed
that align to the SVN. Does this make any sense at all? There seems to be no way to tell the system that SVN X = PRN Y The only other fake out approach as a test will be to find a PRN thats up and see if that aligns to a SVN. Then manually enter that SVN as a search. Regards Paul WB8TSL

Re: [time-nuts] NAVSTAR proteus GPS time and frequency unit

2015-11-09 Thread paul swed
Hmmm then why do I have to figure it out at all? I don't care what the date says. Only that the Austron locks and does its frequency offset compare. It would be great not to have to do this. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 9:06 PM, Magnus Danielson <mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org >

Re: [time-nuts] NAVSTAR proteus GPS time and frequency unit

2015-11-09 Thread paul swed
this with a semi-automatic acquire and give it a list of know satellites. But will just let it run for a day or so. Regards Paul WB8TSL Need to watch it this is not my thread. On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 8:11 PM, Graham / KE9H <ke9h.gra...@gmail.com> wrote: > GPS Time ignores (does not deal wi

Re: [time-nuts] NAVSTAR proteus GPS time and frequency unit

2015-11-09 Thread paul swed
OK great conversation. Not sure when but far sooner then later will fire the system up and just let it run for a week. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 1:09 PM, Hal Murray <hmur...@megapathdsl.net> wrote: > > paulsw...@gmail.com said: > > Hmmm then why do I have to fi

Re: [time-nuts] NAVSTAR proteus GPS time and frequency unit

2015-11-08 Thread paul swed
have been by subtracting 1024 weeks. Seems easy right. Nope. That works for the old austron. But as I say serious thinking. There are some online tools that help. But it all gets old very fast. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 4:01 PM, Rob Sherwood. <r...@nc0b.com> wrote: > W

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 136, Issue 5

2015-11-05 Thread paul swed
to fire up. Far to spoiled by the modern things you fire up walk away and 30-120 min later pretty darn stable. Regard Paul WB8TSL On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Stephen Farthing <squir...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi guys, > > Thanks for the advice and offers to help. I think I will pass o

Re: [time-nuts] NAVSTAR proteus GPS time and frequency unit

2015-11-04 Thread paul swed
. There are certainly modern solutions at low cost without the pain. >From the guy who has recovered more then a few ancient GPS systems. :-) I suspect if there is a better answer you will get it here. Good luck. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 2:25 PM, Stephen Farthing <squir...@gmail.com> wro

Re: [time-nuts] General Radio frequency standard question

2015-11-04 Thread paul swed
Hello to the group. I have to say I keep coming back to these pictures of the syncronometer. Wow did it arrive in that clean condition? If not how did you restore it? I mean it appears evenin the hard to get to corners there is no grime build up. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 3:32 PM

Re: [time-nuts] Beginners GPS locked frequency counter question

2015-10-31 Thread paul swed
. With todays integration thats hard to say. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 6:50 AM, Chris Wilson <ch...@chriswilson.tv> wrote: > > > 31/10/2015 10:46 > >I have a Racal counter locked to 1 MHz on its rear panel external >input socket from my Trimble T

Re: [time-nuts] Furuno GT77/GT80 manuals - Symmetricom 58834A-H01

2015-10-30 Thread paul swed
Greg Not sure what location they were uploaded to. Regards Paul On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 9:32 AM, Gregory Beat <w...@icloud.com> wrote: > The HP/Symmetricom 58834A-H01 timing receiver/antenna used the Furuno > GT-77 (8-channel) and GT-80 (16-channel) GPS receivers in its outdoor >

[time-nuts] Wildwood eLoran on air schedule

2015-10-29 Thread paul swed
The Wildwood eLoran Transmitter will be on air for testing purposes from 0900 (EST) on 03 November until 1200 (EST) on 06 November and then again from 0900 (EST) on 09 November until 1500 (EST) on 13 November. Wildwood will be broadcasting as 8970 Master and Secondary. Regards Paul WB8TSL

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Crystal Frequencies

2015-10-27 Thread paul swed
and therefore some other frequency would be needed. (There could also be a very wide range of IF frequencies besides the two I mention.) I will guess the 10.9 Mhz is exactly that when multiplied up either comes up high or low by the IF frequency offset they wanted. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Mon, Oct 26

Re: [time-nuts] Celestial Navigation instruction being reinstated in the US Navy

2015-10-26 Thread paul swed
for the day the Glenda GPS fails. By the way if its celestial navigation, next will be slide rules. Pretty hard to tamper with them. The only virus they get are cold. Regards Paul WB8TSL Sorry really going astray here. On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Scott McGrath <scmcgr...@gmail.com>

Re: [time-nuts] When NTP goes wrong...

2015-10-25 Thread Paul
[This is my final contribution to this topic since real time-nuts using NTP run their own S1 servers driven by their Thunderbolts (et.seq.) and don't need to worry about this] On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 11:27 AM, Florian Teply wrote: > > > > >But if I read that article on ars

Re: [time-nuts] When NTP goes wrong...

2015-10-24 Thread Paul
On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 6:36 AM, Florian Teply wrote: > Am Wed, 21 Oct 2015 22:54:15 -0700 > schrieb Rob Seaman : > > > The Network Time Foundation (through Harlan Stenn’s hard work) has > > already released a patch synchronized with the publication of the > >

Re: [time-nuts] "Selective availability" af accurate time for Apple users?

2015-10-22 Thread Paul
On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 3:09 PM, Paul <tic-...@bodosom.net> wrote: > Network connected iOS devices not paired with a watch use (s)ntp at large > intervals rather than the mobile network or GPS. > I expect iOS 9 still has the post-iOS 4 behavior of doing an (s)NTP poll to time.app

Re: [time-nuts] "Selective availability" af accurate time for Apple users?

2015-10-20 Thread Paul
On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 4:02 AM, Brian Garrett wrote: > ... As measured by NTP apps such as Emerald Time and Watchville, millisecond accuracy comparable to the soon-to-be-released Apple Watch was now commonplace, with typical offsets of 5 ms or less, rather than the

Re: [time-nuts] looking for rakable GPSDO

2015-10-19 Thread Paul Alfille
Is the KS-24361 too narrow for your use, or are you only looking for new equipment? On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Stéphane Rey wrote: > Hello, > > I'm looking for a 10 MHz output GPSDO with external antenna which would be > rackable. Symmetricon doesn't seem to propose

[time-nuts] eLORAN will be on the air

2015-10-15 Thread paul swed
The Wildwood eLoran transmitter will be continuously broadcasting from 0900 (EDT) on 20 October 2015 through 1800 (EDT) on 22 October 2015. Wildwood will be broadcasting as 8970 Master and Secondary. Regards Paul WB8TSL ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time

Re: [time-nuts] KS-24361 REF-0 standalone

2015-10-03 Thread paul swed
. Anything can work. I used the 6M also because of the $11 cost and at the time as a alpha tester there could have been issues. Reality, the 6M was on the shelf. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 9:47 AM, Bob Camp <kb...@n1k.org> wrote: > Hi > > If indeed you are into a prof

Re: [time-nuts] More HP5065 experiments

2015-09-29 Thread paul swed
lease. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 4:02 AM, Tom Van Baak <t...@leapsecond.com> wrote: > > That said... if anyone has a printed copy and is willing to sell it > > for a reasonable price. I'd be a buyer :-) > > Attila, > > There's a bunch of copies at h

Re: [time-nuts] wwvb gps d-psk-r details

2015-09-25 Thread paul swed
there is no longer a need for the old receivers either as it can all be done very nicely in software complete with phase measurements in about 2 Lbs and 5 watts. I am scratching my head a bit here. It seems as though the 500 KB document may have come through. But I never received a copy. Regards Paul

[time-nuts] wwvb d-psk-r predictive approach success

2015-09-18 Thread paul swed
the details its not clear how to code them in relation to some date or something for 10 years of predictions. Doesn't seem to matter because what I see is a single or so bit error doesn't upset the old receivers. Still curious minds would like to know. Regards Paul WB8TSL

Re: [time-nuts] wwvb d-psk-r predictive approach success

2015-09-18 Thread paul swed
understand how to fix the 5 bits LS_DST. Then the remaining 4 that are spread is pretty much a who cares. Regards Paul On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 7:15 AM, Bob Camp <kb...@n1k.org> wrote: > Hi > > > Ok !! > > That sounds very useful. > > One silly way to deal with the unkn

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5730 data polling technique?

2015-09-06 Thread Paul Alfille
e-07 adev(n=6), 5.7872e-08 oadev(n=50397) 2 tau, 1.2508e-07 adev(n=2), 2.7868e-08 oadev(n=30397) This uses a perl 1-liner to remove extra text. On Sun, Sep 6, 2015 at 3:41 PM, Paul Alfille <paul.alfi...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thank you everyone for responding to my pl

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5730 data polling technique?

2015-09-06 Thread Paul Alfille
6959000E-03 TI = 4.98466773000E-03 TI = 4.97510635000E-03 TI = 4.97518645000E-03 TI = 4.9755533E-03 TI = 4.97523096000E-03 .. Finally analyzing the data with Tom Van Baak's adev1 ( http://www.leapsecond.com/tools/adev1.htm) [paul@localhost Documents] $ ./adev1 1 < ../datafile.txt ** Sa

[time-nuts] HP 5730 data polling technique?

2015-09-02 Thread Paul Alfille
I am stymied by what should be a simple task: I'd like to gather sequential measurements from my HP5370B. I have two of them, one with the Beaglebone mod and one straight GPIB. I'm running linux and have a Beiming HP GPIB->USB device. While I can see single measurements either with the

Re: [time-nuts] KS-24361 REF-0 standalone

2015-09-02 Thread paul swed
. But it does not slip from what I have seen. The 15 pin connectors arrived from ebay. 10 for $3.59 and work perfectly. I was worried that there might be an issue with pins 8-10. Not the case. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 3:29 AM, Adrian Godwin <artgod...@gmail.com> wrote: &g

Re: [time-nuts] Z3805 service information ?

2015-09-01 Thread paul swed
. There is a DC to DC inverter and there tend to be issues with that so power supply checks are a really good place to start. Best of luck Paul WB8TSL On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Mark Spencer <m...@alignedsolutions.com> wrote: > Hi, I realize this is a long shot but I'm curious if anyone

[time-nuts] eLoran on the air next week the 08/25/2015

2015-08-21 Thread paul swed
. This is most of the week so you can really check your references and propagation. Good luck Paul WB8TSL ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow

Re: [time-nuts] Need help with Lucent/Symmetricom Z3810AS

2015-08-17 Thread paul swed
on 2-5 minutes later no gps off. The ref zero aligns to the Ref1. If Ref 0 fails 1 will turn green. Good luck Paul WB8TSL On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 7:01 PM, Heinz Breuer hbre...@debitel.net wrote: Hello, I am new to GPSDO and a new member to this list. I bought a Lucent/Symmetricom Z3810AS from

Re: [time-nuts] KS-24361 REF-0 standalone

2015-08-13 Thread paul swed
a right angle female. But the straight male just wasn't going to happen. Yes I understand the filters. But lets leave it alone. Its a distraction to the important thread. Its the smallest contribution I could add to everyones hard work. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 6:26 PM, Bob Camp

Re: [time-nuts] KS-24361 REF-0 standalone

2015-08-13 Thread paul swed
they are not the longer pin connectors on the official plugs but I suspect that does not matter for time-nuts use. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Don Latham d...@montana.com wrote: Re the Ref-0 Ref-1 difference. Might be easier to find in the difference between PForth dumps? R0 and R1

Re: [time-nuts] wtd: WWVB info

2015-08-11 Thread paul swed
or more to start. They actually consistently work in any orientation. No more must face west. I hope they are succesful. But if you are a builder/programmer everything you need is available. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 3:14 AM, Chris Albertson albertson.ch...@gmail.com wrote: You

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt issue found

2015-08-11 Thread paul swed
you nightmare may just beginning. Good luck. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 6:47 AM, Bob Camp kb...@n1k.org wrote: Hi It’s a pretty good bet that what ever is *really* is a generic PNP or NPN device will drop in. You need a low frequency device like the 3904 series. It’s going

Re: [time-nuts] KS-24361 REF-0 standalone

2015-08-10 Thread paul swed
Dan A really nice blog even with colored dots on the pins. Can't get much better then that. Fantastic on the strings that are needed to keep the Ref 0 happy and there timing. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 7:16 AM, Bob Camp kb...@n1k.org wrote: Hi Yes, Paul posted a link

Re: [time-nuts] wtd: WWVB info

2015-08-09 Thread paul swed
I looked at the site its the typical cmall board with everything on it. Saves you the trouble of doing that very fine soldering. No antenna. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 1:16 PM, Bob Camp kb...@n1k.org wrote: HI Discrete as in resistors and transistors or discrete as in “stuff

Re: [time-nuts] KS-24361 REF-0 standalone

2015-08-09 Thread paul swed
but a great start. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 11:26 AM, D W watsondani...@gmail.com wrote: A quick update for everyone. I have successfully gotten a REF-0 to run standalone. I am using an AVR, an inexpensive GPS module and very minimal circuitry. The 'NO GPS' light is off, and SatStat

Re: [time-nuts] KS-24361 REF-0 standalone

2015-08-09 Thread Paul
down when only looking at the “outside” of the device. Bob On Aug 7, 2015, at 8:18 PM, paul swed paulsw...@gmail.com wrote: Dan exactly my thinking. I will guess it wants the string that says I have a 3d position lock. Something like @@ and 30-40 characters that would be fixed.I

Re: [time-nuts] KS-24361 REF-0 standalone

2015-08-07 Thread paul swed
. Hard to say whats needed but a good discussion. Be it any number of uProcs they can all easily do a fixed string. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 5:13 PM, D W watsondani...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I'm hoping that it just wants a dummy string to say GPS is ok, and doesn't actually use

Re: [time-nuts] KS-24361 REF-0 standalone

2015-08-07 Thread paul swed
of the low end ones will do that stunt very easily. That would be pretty sweet. Paul WB8TSL On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 10:13 AM, Bob Camp kb...@n1k.org wrote: Hi Ok, I will write something up and post it here. It will probably take a few days to get it all into a form that answers most

Re: [time-nuts] eLORAN test 6 Aug. Both Dana In. and wildwood nj

2015-08-07 Thread paul swed
. So if we don't hear it most likely some mouse messed something up. Regards Paul On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 7:32 PM, Stan W1LE stanw...@verizon.net wrote: I am locked at 8970 GRI, have been for a few hours No luck with 9960 GRI from this location. Using a SRS FS700 Stan, W1LECape CodFN41sr

Re: [time-nuts] KS-24361 REF-0 standalone

2015-08-07 Thread paul swed
Bob there is enough interest you may want to resend it here. Just a thought. Paul WB8TSL On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 5:24 AM, Graham planoph...@aei.ca wrote: Bob, I would like that information too please and thank you. I have a pair that is working quite well and I also have a second REF-0

Re: [time-nuts] eLORAN test 6 Aug. Both Dana In. and wildwood nj

2015-08-06 Thread paul swed
:34 PM, paul swed paulsw...@gmail.com wrote: The Wildwood, NJ Transmitter will be on air from 0900 (EDT) 06 August until 1800 (EDT) 07 August. Wildwood will be broadcasting as 8970 Master and Secondary. The Dana, IN transmitter will also be on air intermittently during this time

Re: [time-nuts] HP10811 dual oven

2015-08-04 Thread paul swed
Pete Always the interesting tid bits. Thats the same double oven in the HP Z3801 I have one that went nuts. What a gooey mess. I set the whole thing on the shelf as a someday project. The Z3801 actually has something besides that as an issue. Regards Paul. WB8TSL On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 12:47 PM

[time-nuts] eLORAN test 6 Aug. Both Dana In. and wildwood nj

2015-08-04 Thread paul swed
other rates and stations as well. So at least 2 GRIs and at different locations. That will make it pretty interesting. Regards Paul WB8TSL ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman

Re: [time-nuts] wtd: WWVB info

2015-08-04 Thread paul swed
Don nothing magical. Simply no market. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 6:43 PM, Donald donvuko...@gmail.com wrote: I have been looking into WWVB receivers. I see that the sources I had purchased from a few years ago are no longer available(in the US). I see that the format

Re: [time-nuts] Lamp oven repair info for HP 5065A

2015-08-02 Thread paul swed
in the 5065 seem to last a long time its worth a shot. Kind of like the HP 5060/5061 was worth a shot and I learned a lot. Can't help that it actually works now. That was unexpected. Bythe waythat effort sort of cured me of the I want a CS. :-) Regards Paul WB8TSL On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 6:36 PM, Chuck

[time-nuts] Austron 2100 LORAN C manual I have a pdf!

2015-07-30 Thread paul swed
In looking at the threads and putting away the Austron catalog I realized I have a 2100 pdf with schematics. Its 8.9 MB so will send it to the Diddiers KO4BB site tonight. Regards Paul WB8TSL ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com

Re: [time-nuts] Just When You Thought It Was Safe ....

2015-07-30 Thread paul swed
Bob Just took a look and the pair seems to still be at $150. Maybe it was a special? The ovens are as you say $25 each and shipping for either 1 or 2 is $18.75. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 8:44 PM, Bob Camp kb...@n1k.org wrote: Hi For all of you who dropped off the list back

Re: [time-nuts] Picked up the Austral 2200A tonight

2015-07-30 Thread paul swed
that down or not. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 5:56 AM, Jason Ball ja...@ball.net wrote: Just picked it up, it has an internal rubidium which piqued my interest as worst case I could cannibalize the unit. It's also been sitting on a shelf for 10 years so the oscillator should

Re: [time-nuts] Flashback to 1988 (Austron Catalog)

2015-07-26 Thread paul swed
Dan next test 6-7 August not much time. What is your location? Paul WB8TSL On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 4:02 PM, Dan Watson watsondani...@gmail.com wrote: I bought a nice Austron 2100F this past week. It is very much new old stock. The unit is pristine and powers up just fine. I'll have to get

Re: [time-nuts] Flashback to 1988 (Austron Catalog)

2015-07-26 Thread paul swed
I don't think there is one. Watch out there is one located I believe on a Chinese site. I was told its actually malware. On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 9:49 AM, Dan Watson watsondani...@gmail.com wrote: Sure. I uploaded a scan of the catalog parts to KO4BB. It's listed in Recent Uploads awaiting

[time-nuts] eLoran next possible transmission test update

2015-07-24 Thread paul swed
reception reports to UrsaNav. This consisted of a simple set of numbers from the SRS FS700. The numbers were Gain and margin. The Austrons have a slightly different report. Regards Paul WB8TSL ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go

[time-nuts] Good night eLORAN off the air about 1800 local

2015-07-23 Thread paul swed
Time to let the gear cool down and lower the power bill here in Boston. I suspect my HP Z3801 is actually ok and speculate they may have been messing with the signal at times. I will ask and also send them some observations. Regards Paul WB8TSL ___ time

Re: [time-nuts] Austron 2200A

2015-07-23 Thread paul swed
so all of that was done. Next step is that since it has the multiple rollover issues you have figure out the date to tell it. Quite an effort. But its a very good unit for checking offsets. Though a pain to get there. Regards Paul On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 6:27 PM, Jason Ball ja...@ball.net wrote

Re: [time-nuts] TBolt 10 MHz output ~1.7v rms / HP 8656B FG

2015-07-21 Thread paul swed
. Regards Paul. On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 6:29 PM, M. George m.matthew.geo...@gmail.com wrote: I picked up an HP 8656B from the usual place and have been cleaning it up... got around to testing the output which looks good on a cheap frequency counter etc... I'm wanting to use the 10 MHz output from

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN on the air 89700 been a good day so far

2015-07-21 Thread paul swed
Khz. Not to likely you will hear the pulses. Sorry for the brief answer Regards Paul WB8TSL On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 9:02 PM, Alex Pummer a...@pcscons.com wrote: Hi Paul where could I find the frequency of our Loran [the Californian Loran ] I have an old HP3586 radio receiver 73 Alex On 7

[time-nuts] LORAN on the air at 0900 local 1300 UTC 89700

2015-07-20 Thread paul swed
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[time-nuts] LORAN on the air 89700 been a good day so far

2015-07-20 Thread paul swed
. It will be quite a job to dig into. Regards Paul. WB8TSL ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] Loran C returning to a station near you...

2015-07-18 Thread paul swed
OK LORAN is on the air up in Boston. I had just turned off various equipment this morning. So starting it back up after testing it yesterday. Lots of large static crashes. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 7:04 AM, billriches bill.ric...@verizon.net wrote: FYI Wildwood eLoran

Re: [time-nuts] Loran C returning to a station near you...

2015-07-18 Thread paul swed
station is sending the master and secondary delayed emission. Its simply not the same ole sound. But it still works very well for checking frequency. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 12:52 PM, billriches bill.ric...@verizon.net wrote: Correction on times for Mon - thurs - start 900 edst

Re: [time-nuts] Firmware and antenna for Stanford Research FS700 Loran C frequency standard

2015-07-17 Thread paul swed
because of the large signal bandwidth +- 10Khz. With the whip on winter nights I do get occasional lock of the European signals. Granted this will be an over the summer project. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 8:31 AM, Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd) drkir...@kirkbymicrowave.co.uk

Re: [time-nuts] 5 x 2 x 3 = 30 MHz

2015-07-17 Thread paul swed
Ulrich, Nice picture. What are you doing with the crystal? I have several older crystals that are nice but have never done anything with them. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 6:02 PM, KA2WEU--- via time-nuts time-nuts@febo.com wrote: I am working with this .. amazing device

Re: [time-nuts] UrsaNav LORAN next test date

2015-07-16 Thread paul swed
. But as an alternate reference to GPS you can't complain. If you can find a marine loran c boat preamp and antenna you are in business. Regards Paul. WB8TSL On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 1:45 AM, D W watsondani...@gmail.com wrote: Paul, thanks for that info. Very interesting. I've been enjoying all of the Loran

Re: [time-nuts] Loran C returning to a station near you...

2015-07-15 Thread paul swed
John I don't know if there was. But the timing receivers like the Austrons and SRS could really derive very accurate frequencies especially if you lived 60 miles from the transmitter. :-) Regards Paul. WB8TSL On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 4:23 AM, John C. Westmoreland, P.E. j

[time-nuts] UrsaNav LORAN next test date

2015-07-15 Thread paul swed
different sites. UrsaNav plans to post the schedules on their site when it firms up. Regards Paul WB8TSL ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] Firmware and antenna for Stanford Research FS700 Loran C frequency standard

2015-07-15 Thread paul swed
if the signals strong. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 12:02 PM, Dr. David Kirkby - Kirkby Microwave Ltd drkir...@kirkbymicrowave.co.uk wrote: Does anyone know of the latest firmware for the Stanford Research FS700 Loran-C frequency standard? I know someone who has one with firmware 1.20

Re: [time-nuts] Loran C returning to a station near you...

2015-07-15 Thread paul swed
I did fire up the srs last week and did not here it? I will fire up a LF receiver and listen. Perhaps my preamp is sick. Regards Paul. On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 11:32 PM, David McGaw n1...@dartmouth.edu wrote: The word is that eLoran IS on in the US from Wildwood as of June 19. Has anyone

Re: [time-nuts] Loran C returning to a station near you...

2015-07-14 Thread paul swed
systems in Europe. But it seems in general LORAN is one big question. I know we shut down LORAN C to save $36M/year. A drop in the bucket. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 10:56 PM, skipp Isaham via time-nuts time-nuts@febo.com wrote: Does anyone know of any other genuinely useful

Re: [time-nuts] Loran C returning to a station near you...

2015-07-14 Thread paul swed
Poul-Henning, The reason to stay with the LORAN C style pulses is very very simple. It allows our time-nuts Austrons and SRS to work. Its the only way I get any of my tax dollars back. :-) The good news is no official government person reads time-nuts. Regards Paul On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 12:16

Re: [time-nuts] Any other useful purpose for Austron 2100F or SRS FS700 receivers in US

2015-07-12 Thread paul swed
Magnus I use a 420 ohm resistor to make FS700 happy. I have a LORAN C whip antenna and preamp that then feeds a distribution amplifier for the 4 Loran C rcvrs. The loran C simulator lives in the same box and can feed the rcvrs also. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 11:10 AM, Magnus

Re: [time-nuts] Any other useful purpose for Austron 2100F or SRS FS700 receivers in US

2015-07-11 Thread paul swed
the FR700 or austrons 2100s,2100F, and 2000. All worked. Kind of a crazy thing to do but hated to see the systems die. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 11:14 AM, James Robbins jsrobb...@earthlink.net wrote: Does anyone know of any other genuinely useful purpose to which the Austron

Re: [time-nuts] Loran and SRS FS700 in the UK

2015-07-11 Thread paul swed
. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 1:02 AM, Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd) drkir...@kirkbymicrowave.co.uk wrote: On 11 Jul 2015 03:28, GandalfG8--- via time-nuts time-nuts@febo.com wrote: This is a reply to the topic Loran-C reception in the UK with specific emphasis

Re: [time-nuts] CS frequency standard

2015-07-10 Thread paul swed
. Regards Paul. WB8TSL On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 6:07 PM, Don Latham d...@montana.com wrote: I lucked out on a very squeaky clean FTS 4060 CS standard. Started up right away and appears to have a strong tube. My question for those in the know: I don't appeal to the standard very often. Should I leave

Re: [time-nuts] Reeeely long term HP 5065A drift rate (13 year!)

2015-07-09 Thread paul swed
So interesting they do circle around the same region. Pretty amazing. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 1:39 PM, cdel...@juno.com wrote: A few have volunteered for extended tests! Also got some info for a couple others: Unit 1 3.15X10-12/Year 12 years Unit 2 1.53X10-12/Year 13

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370a

2015-07-05 Thread paul swed
. Not to mis-lead you. By the way at this point if I have a piece of test gear thats basically Dead I dive in and open cans etc. The nothing to loose mode. Best of luck Paul WB8TSL On Sun, Jul 5, 2015 at 5:13 AM, Matthias Jelen matthias.je...@gmx.de wrote: The problem is that the whole VCO is packaged

Re: [time-nuts] GPS/UTC time

2015-07-04 Thread paul swed
the little WWVB clocks did not show the change until they re-sampled time typically one time a day. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 4:26 AM, Steve Platt steve.pl...@ntlworld.com wrote: surely the GPS time isn’t run incorrectly forever. Yes it is :-) In simple terms, the integer

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370a

2015-07-04 Thread paul swed
of gates to control the system and Flip Flop used as a mixer. Not easy to deal with. Regards Paul. On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Matthias Jelen matthias.je...@gmx.de wrote: Dear Time-Nuts, I´m still struggling to get my 5370A to work reliable again. It keeps showing error 04. Sometimes

Re: [time-nuts] Leap Second video

2015-07-01 Thread paul swed
Good job Arthur and it makes sense since the wwvb clock simply checks every 24 hours it would continue on the old time and GPS updates instantly. Nicely done. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 12:34 AM, Arthur Dent golgarfrinc...@gmail.com wrote: Here is a short video of the leap

Re: [time-nuts] Jackson labs fury gpsdo with docxo for sale

2015-06-26 Thread Paul
On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 5:25 PM, Rhys D heyr...@gmail.com wrote: According to the brochure, they are only $750 new. Or am I missing something here? A search should answer this but I'll (apologetically) inject -- time-nuts price in 2013, quant. 1: Fury desktop, double oven OCXO $1,759.00

Re: [time-nuts] potential source for cheap copy of labview

2015-06-23 Thread paul swed
Have the eval license up and operating with the NI simple LED test. It works. I can easily see how you could use this to create a nice GUI for some sort of control project. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 6:09 PM, Jim Lux jim...@earthlink.net wrote: On 6/21/15 11:28 AM, Don Latham

Re: [time-nuts] potential source for cheap copy of labview

2015-06-21 Thread paul swed
controllers that emulate a GPIB sender and basically translate commands to and from the old devices. Essentially ascii strings both ways. It seems if you had the NI VXI bus box and I have seen them at fleas ocasionally that would be a useful answer. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 9:48 AM

Re: [time-nuts] Motorola Oncore UT+ firmware upgrade backup power questions

2015-06-21 Thread paul swed
. :-) Regards Paul WB8TSL On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 7:41 AM, Bob Camp kb...@n1k.org wrote: Hi I think there is some confusion here between the almanacs / ephemeris and the firmware. The Oncore saves the most recent GPS information (almanac and ephemeris) in RAM. If that’s battery backed up

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