[time-nuts] Loran-C Norway/France/Germany shutdown

Looks like Sylt went off-air in addition to the Norway and France stations. Perhaps it is not a permanent decommissioning. http://www.jks.com/signals/loran/LV.shutdown1.jpg The above capture from the Loran-C Live Grabber site of Markus Vester, DF6NM:

Re: [time-nuts] Loran-C Norway/France/Germany shutdown

In message , John Seamons writes: >Looks like Sylt went off-air in addition to the Norway and France >stations. Perhaps it is not a permanent decommissioning. Yup, I have all NELS LORSTAs off the air here. But interestingly Anthorn, 6731Y,

Re: [time-nuts] Loran-C Europe

Yes indeed interesting that Anthorn's going at 0300 UTC. Our friends in the UK celebrating perhaps? Or something else cooking? You only need one station for frequency with the ole austrons. By the way when I could get lock it was the Lessay station 6371 I think. Only ever did that in the winter

Re: [time-nuts] Loran-C Norway/France/Germany shutdown

Looks like Sylt went off-air in addition to the Norway and France stations. Perhaps it is not a permanent decommissioning. It might just be coincidence, but at around 0145 on Jan 1st the Sylt web site link on the Loran-C Europe web site was reporting a 404 not found

Re: [time-nuts] Loran-C Norway/France/Germany shutdown

FWIW, Loran-C at Jan-Mayen was shut down at 1200NT (1100UTC). Info from: http://jan.mayen.no/nyheter/en-aera-er-forbi/ I will check with a friend at Bø station on monday regarding the rest of the norwegian stations. BR. Thomas. 2016-01-01 3:16 GMT+01:00 GandalfG8--- via time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] Loran-C Norway/France/Germany shutdown

Here is a comment I had made on one thread. Yes indeed interesting that Anthorn's going at 0300 UTC. Our friends in the UK celebrating perhaps? Or something else cooking? You only need one station for frequency with the ole austrons. By the way when I could get lock it was the Lessay station 6371

[time-nuts] Loran-C Europe

As far as I can tell, in the 6731 chain there is just one station still operating, this at 0200 on 1st January 2016. My FS700s are reporting no master found so Lessay has gone, and I suspect Soustons also. Without the master I'm not seeing any identification of the one station I'm now

Re: [time-nuts] Loran C returning to a station near you...

[mailto:bill.ric...@verizon.net] Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 10:04 PM To: 'billriches'; 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' Subject: RE: [time-nuts] Loran C returning to a station near you... FYI GRI for Wildwood is 8970. Bill, WA2DVU Cape May --- This email has been checked

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Correction on times for Mon - thurs - start 900 edst - 1300Z -Original Message- From: billriches [mailto:bill.ric...@verizon.net] Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 7:05 AM To: 'billriches'; 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' Subject: RE: [time-nuts] Loran C returning

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] Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 10:04 PM To: 'billriches'; 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' Subject: RE: [time-nuts] Loran C returning to a station near you... FYI GRI for Wildwood is 8970. Bill, WA2DVU Cape May --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast

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, July 18, 2015 7:05 AM To: 'billriches'; 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' Subject: RE: [time-nuts] Loran C returning to a station near you... FYI Wildwood eLoran will be fired up 1300Z Saturday (today) and 1300Z Monday thru Thursday. Happy listening. Any reports would

Re: [time-nuts] Loran C returning to a station near you...

: billriches [mailto:bill.ric...@verizon.net] Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 10:04 PM To: 'billriches'; 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' Subject: RE: [time-nuts] Loran C returning to a station near you... FYI GRI for Wildwood is 8970. Bill, WA2DVU Cape May

Re: [time-nuts] Loran C returning to a station near you...

- 1300Z -Original Message- From: billriches [mailto:bill.ric...@verizon.net] Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 7:05 AM To: 'billriches'; 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' Subject: RE: [time-nuts] Loran C returning to a station near you... FYI Wildwood eLoran

Re: [time-nuts] Loran C returning to a station near you...

Message- From: billriches [mailto:bill.ric...@verizon.net] Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 10:04 PM To: 'billriches'; 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' Subject: RE: [time-nuts] Loran C returning to a station near you... FYI GRI for Wildwood is 8970. Bill, WA2DVU Cape May

Re: [time-nuts] Loran C returning to a station near you...

Look at how well a couple of projects have gone: o privatize NIST NTP server operation - the NTP pool is recommended everywhere and good enough for most; separate providers supply high accuracy, precision, and stability timing for financial markets internationally; and GPS serves the rest o

Re: [time-nuts] Loran C returning to a station near you...

Loran-C had absolute accuracy to 500nS but repeatability much better, usually to about 20 meters position or 60 nS (if you mark the position of a buoy you can get back to it very closely). eLoran is a significant improvement and appears to be able to get to 8 meters absolute position or about

Re: [time-nuts] Loran C returning to a station near you...

In message 07538A701D6E4F8D804BD567DD794693@gnat, Alan Melia writes: I mean that a Loran-C signal designed as I proposed in a previous email would not do that, because it wouldn't have the groups and GRI-peridodicties which cause the splatter up and down the band. It just depends what

Re: [time-nuts] Loran C returning to a station near you...

Hi I think the WWVB PM stuff is relevant to Loran in the US. We have (pretty much) the most involved group of “customers” for that signal here on the list. As far as I have seen, the only project that has gone past the talk stage is the converter to drive the old(er) WWVB gear. Even with our

Re: [time-nuts] Loran C returning to a station near you...

] On Behalf Of David McGaw Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 11:32 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Loran C returning to a station near you... The word is that eLoran IS on in the US from Wildwood as of June 19. Has anyone noticed the signal? http

Re: [time-nuts] Loran C returning to a station near you...

Station in Wildwood, California, and mid west are sort of intact. Bill, WA2DVU -Original Message- From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Dale Cannon Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 1:18 AM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] Loran C returning to a station

Re: [time-nuts] Loran C returning to a station near you...

and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com; Bob Camp kb...@n1k.org Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 7:41 AM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Loran C returning to a station near you... In message 3e8a4741-f565-4d2f-834f-62eca1ca1...@n1k.org, Bob Camp writes: If you look at the spectral

[time-nuts] Loran C returning to a station near you...

Folks, I know that there is a longing for LORAN-C to return, but this weekend, I did a Google Maps flyover of each of the US LORAN-C stations (takes less than an hour). Almost all of the antennas are gone and there are no cars in the parking lots (except at Seneca which became an Army depot).

Re: [time-nuts] Loran C returning to a station near you...

John I don't know if there was. But the timing receivers like the Austrons and SRS could really derive very accurate frequencies especially if you lived 60 miles from the transmitter. :-) Regards Paul. WB8TSL On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 4:23 AM, John C. Westmoreland, P.E.

Re: [time-nuts] Loran C returning to a station near you...

In message cad2jfai8ykhzqyci++pr8cezmgwy+fh3edusgwfysde50ff...@mail.gmail.com , paul swed writes: I don't know if there was. But the timing receivers like the Austrons and SRS could really derive very accurate frequencies especially if you lived 60 miles from the transmitter. :-)

Re: [time-nuts] Loran C returning to a station near you...

[mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Dale Cannon Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 10:18 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] Loran C returning to a station near you... Folks, I know that there is a longing for LORAN-C to return, but this weekend, I did a Google Maps flyover of each

Re: [time-nuts] Loran C returning to a station near you...

In message 3e8a4741-f565-4d2f-834f-62eca1ca1...@n1k.org, Bob Camp writes: If you look at the spectral width of the existing Loran-C (or similar) waveform, it’s a massive thing. You would have a hard time coming up with something that spreads more crud around the VLF range. The reason

Re: [time-nuts] Loran C returning to a station near you...

Time-Nuts, Was better than 500 nS accuracy ever achieved with Loran? 73's, John Westmoreland AJ6BC On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 10:18 PM, Dale Cannon dalec...@cfl.rr.com wrote: Folks, I know that there is a longing for LORAN-C to return, but this weekend, I did a Google Maps flyover of each

Re: [time-nuts] Loran C returning to a station near you...

I did fire up the srs last week and did not here it? I will fire up a LF receiver and listen. Perhaps my preamp is sick. Regards Paul. On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 11:32 PM, David McGaw n1...@dartmouth.edu wrote: The word is that eLoran IS on in the US from Wildwood as of June 19. Has anyone

Re: [time-nuts] Loran C returning to a station near you...

In message 73568e39-9467-4192-aeb8-c9c14a2bb...@n1k.org, Bob Camp writes: I notice in the papers that “infinite budget” does not seem to apply to the US DOD these days. *cough* F-35 *cough* B61-mod12 *cough* -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org

Re: [time-nuts] Loran C returning to a station near you...

Hi, There is indeed investigations going on about what the cost of receivers would be etc. A benefit of Loran-C is that relative jamming/spoofing resistance can be had without the need of opening up for keyed receivers. This helps for non-military and non-government operations. Now, there is

Re: [time-nuts] Loran C returning to a station near you...

Skip It certainly keeps trying to return. It will not be the navigation system formerly known as Loran C (Wasn't that also some singer?) it will be eLoran. Most eLORAN systems add an additional pulse for data. They stick somewhat to the old format to avoid possible interference with operating

Re: [time-nuts] Loran C returning to a station near you...

In message 55a4ac81.1030...@rubidium.dyndns.org, Magnus Danielson writes: The safety is relative, in that it takes quite a bit of more infrastructure compared to the jamming of GPS, and that lies in the wavelength of the signal than anything else. If the goal is a reliable backup for

Re: [time-nuts] Loran C returning to a station near you...

Poul-Henning, On 07/14/2015 06:16 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message 55a4ac81.1030...@rubidium.dyndns.org, Magnus Danielson writes: The safety is relative, in that it takes quite a bit of more infrastructure compared to the jamming of GPS, and that lies in the wavelength of the

Re: [time-nuts] Loran C returning to a station near you...

In message 55a53a67.7010...@rubidium.dyndns.org, Magnus Danielson writes: If the goal is a reliable backup for GPS, there are smarter ways to use the 100kHz band than Loran-C pulses, and there really isn't much reason to stay compatible with Loran-C receivers. True. I would look at

Re: [time-nuts] Loran C returning to a station near you...

Poul-Henning, The reason to stay with the LORAN C style pulses is very very simple. It allows our time-nuts Austrons and SRS to work. Its the only way I get any of my tax dollars back. :-) The good news is no official government person reads time-nuts. Regards Paul On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 12:16

Re: [time-nuts] Loran C returning to a station near you...

Hi Not to be to much of a downer here but ….. Loran for timing and an “Eastern WWVB” are two projects that seem to each have a life of their own. They seem to come up on some sort of cycle related to sun spots. Both have zero (or possibly less than that) percent mind share among those who

Re: [time-nuts] Loran C returning to a station near you...

In message cad2jfah+spv23kgizgmnjdh9ea1wksogn03y0icje2edpzt...@mail.gmail.com , paul swed writes: The reason to stay with the LORAN C style pulses is very very simple. It allows our time-nuts Austrons and SRS to work. Its the only way I get any of my tax dollars back. :-) Considering

Re: [time-nuts] Loran C returning to a station near you...

Hi On Jul 14, 2015, at 12:35 PM, Magnus Danielson mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org wrote: Poul-Henning, On 07/14/2015 06:16 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message 55a4ac81.1030...@rubidium.dyndns.org, Magnus Danielson writes: The safety is relative, in that it takes quite a bit

Re: [time-nuts] Loran C returning to a station near you...

The word is that eLoran IS on in the US from Wildwood as of June 19. Has anyone noticed the signal? http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/news/loran-navigation-signal-back-on-and-better-than-before/article_21d19298-16d0-11e5-9a69-1343edc2e90b.html There is also a bill in the US House to

Re: [time-nuts] Loran C returning to a station near you...

How much money was saved by not sending NIST time codes over GOES satellites? I'm sure that was much less than $36M/year to continue, probably not even 1% of that. I'm strongly for high diversity in time distribution. GPS is great, but putting all our eggs in the GPS basket seems very unwise. At

[time-nuts] Loran C returning to a station near you...

Does anyone know of any other genuinely useful purpose to which the Austron 2100F, SRS FS700, etc receivers can be put in the US since the demise of Loran? I've heard Loran C in some form will be returning. GPS is not jam proof and that seems to have caught the attention of our government.

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C reception in the UK

mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org /divdivDatum:2015-07-11 18:00 (GMT+01:00) /divdivTill: time-nuts@febo.com /divdivKopia: mag...@rubidium.se /divdivRubrik: Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C reception in the UK /divdiv /divHi, On 07/11/2015 03:18 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message CAPbEEQJxn

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C reception in the UK

hartman k...@hartmans.org /divdivDatum:2015-07-10 22:46 (GMT+01:00) /divdivTill: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com /divdivRubrik: Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C reception in the UK /divdiv /divfrom: http://gpsworld.com/eloran-progresses-toward-gps-back-up-role

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C reception in the UK

In message CAPbEEQJxn+R5AvCenfyXjFU=WOjFbYxZd2EC_hX=c6muyev...@mail.gmail.com , ken hartman writes: the European Radio Navigation Plan having twice been drafted but never published. The view seems to bee that the introduction of Galileo will achieve resilient PNT, which it will not.”

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C reception in the UK

On 10/07/15 21:46, ken hartman wrote: from: http://gpsworld.com/eloran-progresses-toward-gps-back-up-role-in-u-s-europe/ “Both Norway and France have declared an intention to cease Loran transmissions at the end of 2015. Moreover, France intends to dismantle its Loran infrastructure in 2016.

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C reception in the UK

In message 55a13dab.2030...@rubidium.dyndns.org, Magnus Danielson writes: The reason the ERNP wasn't published, was that it concluded that 40% of *all* benefits came from Loran-C, at a yearly cost only a fraction of a single Galileo launch vehicle. Someone should have dreamed up the

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C reception in the UK

Did you check the jamming radius?  div Originalmeddelande /divdivFrån: Magnus Danielson mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org /divdivDatum:2015-07-11 18:00 (GMT+01:00) /divdivTill: time-nuts@febo.com /divdivKopia: mag...@rubidium.se /divdivRubrik: Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C reception

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C reception in the UK

Hi, On 07/11/2015 03:18 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message CAPbEEQJxn+R5AvCenfyXjFU=WOjFbYxZd2EC_hX=c6muyev...@mail.gmail.com , ken hartman writes: the European Radio Navigation Plan having twice been drafted but never published. The view seems to bee that the introduction of

[time-nuts] LORAN-C reception in the UK

How good/bad would a LORAN-C frequency reference such as the Stanford Research FS700 work in the UK? I live about 60 km to the east of central London. Is there any future for LORAN-C in the UK? I am looking for a frequency reference that is not GPS - I already have a GPS frequency reference but

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C reception in the UK

PM Subject: [time-nuts] LORAN-C reception in the UK How good/bad would a LORAN-C frequency reference such as the Stanford Research FS700 work in the UK? I live about 60 km to the east of central London. Is there any future for LORAN-C in the UK? I am looking for a frequency reference

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C reception in the UK

Hi David On 10/07/15 13:14, Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd) wrote: How good/bad would a LORAN-C frequency reference such as the Stanford Research FS700 work in the UK? I live about 60 km to the east of central London. My Austron 2100's lock on to Anthorn, Lessay, and Sylt. I'm in

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C reception in the UK

In message CANX10hBNdx82BawbHJ-DqbReEb3HH=rc2h4VckHx0Etfb=4...@mail.gmail.com , Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd) writes: How good/bad would a LORAN-C frequency reference such as the Stanford Research FS700 work in the UK? I live about 60 km to the east of central London. It

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C reception in the UK

Dave, I'm afraid I can't give you a quantitative answer about LORAN-C, but I can say that eLORAN is your friend. It has recently been revived in the US and it's doing all right in Europe, UK included. The promise in general is 50 ns to UTC. UrsaNav make some receivers and Chronos (who are a big

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C reception in the UK

Hi Loran should work fine in the UK as long as the European chains stay up and running. They don’t seem to be at any risk of shutting down at the moment. Bob On Jul 10, 2015, at 8:14 AM, Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd) drkir...@kirkbymicrowave.co.uk wrote: How good/bad would a

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C reception in the UK

Hi Dave: The quality of the signal goes down with distance from the transmitter. If you get a sledgehammer sounding signal then you'll get a good time fix, but if you can barely hear the signal then the quality will be poor. Middletown, California to Ukiah, California is strong, but any

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C reception in the UK

from: http://gpsworld.com/eloran-progresses-toward-gps-back-up-role-in-u-s-europe/ “Both Norway and France have declared an intention to cease Loran transmissions at the end of 2015. Moreover, France intends to dismantle its Loran infrastructure in 2016. Arrangements for the commercial

[time-nuts] LORAN C 89700 on the air starting Monday

Wildwood will be on air from approximately 1400 on 02 March until 1400 on 04 March Regards Paul WB8TSL ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN C 89700 on the air starting Monday

Paul, Do you know if this is a prelude to continuous service? -John === Wildwood will be on air from approximately 1400 on 02 March until 1400 on 04 March Regards Paul WB8TSL ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN C 89700 on the air starting Monday

Hi Paul, Is that EST or GMT time? 73, Bill, WA2DVU Cape May, NJ ( 10 miles from Wildwood!) -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of paul swed Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 12:18 PM To: Time-nuts Subject: [time-nuts] LORAN C

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN C 89700 on the air starting Monday

, WA2DVU Cape May, NJ ( 10 miles from Wildwood!) -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of paul swed Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 12:18 PM To: Time-nuts Subject: [time-nuts] LORAN C 89700 on the air starting Monday Wildwood

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN C 89700 on the air starting Monday

] On Behalf Of paul swed Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 12:18 PM To: Time-nuts Subject: [time-nuts] LORAN C 89700 on the air starting Monday Wildwood will be on air from approximately 1400 on 02 March until 1400 on 04 March Regards Paul WB8TSL

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN C 89700 on the air starting Monday

Subject: [time-nuts] LORAN C 89700 on the air starting Monday Wildwood will be on air from approximately 1400 on 02 March until 1400 on 04 March Regards Paul WB8TSL ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https

[time-nuts] LORAN-C Boat-Anchor

I noticed an interesting Loran-C boat-anchor on eBay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/RAYTHEON-RAYNAV-6000-LORAN-C-/230577121042?pt=Boat_Parts_Accessories_Gearhash=item35af77a712vxp=mtr It looks clearly similar to the Micrologic ML 200 I have, but I think this is a later revision. The ML 200

Re: [time-nuts] Loran-C radio navigation

2014 17:12 An: time-nuts@febo.com Betreff: [!! SPAM] [time-nuts] Loran-C radio navigation Dear timing geeks and frequency wizards, I wish to announce a software defined Loran-C longwave radio navigation receiver running on STM32F407 ! If you happen to live somewhere on earth

Re: [time-nuts] Loran-C radio navigation

Matthias, I am based near Bristol in the South West of the UK. I can receive Anthorn in the UK and several of the French chain of transmitters - I have a prototype UrsaNav Loran receiver. Have a reasonably equipped lab for timing; GPS disciplined SRS FS725 rubidium and an Agilent 53230A TIC. Let

Re: [time-nuts] Loran-C radio navigation

Dear Paul, thank you ! Instructions are included in the source package, you will need a signal of about 1.5V DC and 0.5V amplitude. The analog-digital converters are single ended and accept voltage levels between GND and Vcc which is about 3V. You can enjoy my native code Forth compiler on

Re: [time-nuts] Loran-C radio navigation

Mathias OK I see that I need a different board then. Let me take a look. I think thats the $12 board On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 6:14 AM, Matthias Koch matthias.k...@hot.uni-hannover.de wrote: Dear Paul, thank you ! Instructions are included in the source package, you will need a signal of

Re: [time-nuts] Loran-C radio navigation

I see it in the US its 14.88. Not bad at all. But needing a 1/2 V signal is indeed a huge challenge over here. It requires gain stages and filters and the curse of feedback. But as you say the simulator makes that far less of an issue. :-) Regards Paul On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 2:23 PM, paul swed

Re: [time-nuts] Loran-C radio navigation

Just ordered the STM discovery kit. Will take about 1 week. On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 2:28 PM, paul swed paulsw...@gmail.com wrote: I see it in the US its 14.88. Not bad at all. But needing a 1/2 V signal is indeed a huge challenge over here. It requires gain stages and filters and the curse

[time-nuts] Loran-C radio navigation

Dear timing geeks and frequency wizards, I wish to announce a software defined Loran-C longwave radio navigation receiver running on STM32F407 ! If you happen to live somewhere on earth with Loran-C signal coverage like Europe and parts of Asia, I would like to get in contact with you for

Re: [time-nuts] Loran-C radio navigation

Matthias I live in the US on the east coast and do on occasion receive LORAN C from Europe. But we have a new LORAN occasionally here that behaves much as the old did though its for time and frequency only. Further sitting next to me are 3 X launchpads MSP430s that were so inexpensive I could not

Re: [time-nuts] Loran-C radio navigation

OK I downloaded the gz file and see additional information. Thanks On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 3:50 PM, paul swed paulsw...@gmail.com wrote: Matthias I live in the US on the east coast and do on occasion receive LORAN C from Europe. But we have a new LORAN occasionally here that behaves much as

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN C still on the air 24 hours SRS 700 looking good

Yeah, I don't have the antenna for the SRS 700, so I'm going to have to build something. Just looking for a probability of success before I decide to give it a try. -Scott On Mar 20, 2013, at 9:58 AM, paul swed paulsw...@gmail.com wrote: Boy I am going to guess less effectively then I hear

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN C still on the air 24 hours SRS 700 looking good

There isn't anyone who can give you that. Lots of variables. Now since you are in Co maybe you live on a 1000 acre ranch so no other noise sources around you. But just suppose you lived in a typical RF nasty subdivision. Well your noise floors going to be much worse and I mean by an order or two

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN C still on the air 24 hours SRS 700 looking good

Hello Scott, Fire it up and set it to a GRI of 89700 and give it a listen. Stan W1LE Cape Cod On 3/20/2013 1:07 AM, Scott Harris wrote: I've got an SRS 700 and I live in CO. Any chance I can pick up the new LORAN signals? Thanks, -Scott On Mar 19, 2013, at 9:33 AM, paul swed

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN C still on the air 24 hours SRS 700 looking good

Boy I am going to guess less effectively then I hear wwvb here on the east coast Boston. But as Stan says. Give it a try can't hurt also try at night the propagation is different. Though best results are a day path. By the way on the ole wwvb I use a 10' square loop 800' of low cap wire preamp

[time-nuts] LORAN C still on the air 24 hours SRS 700 looking good

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Re: [time-nuts] LORAN C still on the air 24 hours SRS 700 looking good

I don't have a Loran receiver but last night in the Boston area I definitely was able to pick up a strong Loran signal. Peter On 3/19/2013 11:33 AM, paul swed wrote: ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN C still on the air 24 hours SRS 700 looking good

Peter you are in boston, I am in franklin. We must be 25-30 miles apart Regards Paul On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Peter Gottlieb n...@verizon.net wrote: I don't have a Loran receiver but last night in the Boston area I definitely was able to pick up a strong Loran signal. Peter On

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN C still on the air 24 hours SRS 700 looking good

On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 01:29:44PM -0400, paul swed wrote: Peter you are in boston, I am in franklin. We must be 25-30 miles apart Regards Paul Peter lives about 3 miles from my house in Weston... in a corner of Natick abutting Weston. So three of us are quite close. John Forster

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN C still on the air 24 hours SRS 700 looking good

So Boston reclaims the technology capital of the world with all of the time-nuttery folks around here. And to think people believe its silicon valley. I know John and I get to the MIT flea and perhaps its one of you two that I have seen walking off with the widget I was looking for and missed out

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN C still on the air 24 hours SRS 700 looking good

We should get together, especially since I was laid off a couple of weeks ago (after the place I worked went Ch 11 and was bought by the Chinese) and have some free time. Peter On 3/19/2013 2:03 PM, David I. Emery wrote: On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 01:29:44PM -0400, paul swed wrote: Peter you

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN C still on the air 24 hours SRS 700 looking good

Well if it ever stops snowing I plan on hitting the MIT fleas (and NEARfest) again this year! Peter On 3/19/2013 2:45 PM, paul swed wrote: So Boston reclaims the technology capital of the world with all of the time-nuttery folks around here. And to think people believe its silicon valley. I

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN C still on the air 24 hours SRS 700 looking good

Just got in. LORAN C had been locked since Paul mentioned the signal. So far it is comparing to my T'Bolt GPS/DO to 8E-13. Stan, W1LE Cape Cod ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN C still on the air 24 hours SRS 700 looking good

I've got an SRS 700 and I live in CO. Any chance I can pick up the new LORAN signals? Thanks, -Scott On Mar 19, 2013, at 9:33 AM, paul swed paulsw...@gmail.com wrote: ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

[time-nuts] LORAN C is on the air as of 0900 EST Monday

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[time-nuts] LORAN C Antenna...

Those are the counterpoise for the antenna and increases the efficiency of the antenna. Burt, K6OQK At 08:33 AM 8/23/2012, time-nuts-requ...@febo.com wrote What are those rays spreading from the tower base? Are they the artificial ground plane made by wires? On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 3:15

[time-nuts] LORAN-C

Hello The Net: LORAN signals are still being received at a 89700 microsecond GRI. I concur with others that there is only one station transmitting the master(M) and the slave(X) signals. My SRS FS-700 Rx shows equal received signal strength for both signals. Reports indicate the transmitter is

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C

Antenna envy! -John = Hello The Net: LORAN signals are still being received at a 89700 microsecond GRI. I concur with others that there is only one station transmitting the master(M) and the slave(X) signals. My SRS FS-700 Rx shows equal received signal strength for both

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C

In message 1158.12.6.201.135.1335885236.squir...@popaccts.quikus.com, J. For ster writes: Next step is to lock up the signal on an oscope, triggered by an accurate 11.148272 KHz signal ( reciprocal of 89700microsec). A HP5359A is great trigger-source for that. -- Poul-Henning Kamp |

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C

I should say so!! Rob -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of J. Forster Sent: 01 May 2012 16:14 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C Antenna envy! -John

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C

Hello PHK, I will use a HP-3336C with the station 10 MHz (GPS/DO) reference. Typo: trigger should really be 11.148272 Hz instead of KHz ! Stan, W1LE On 5/1/2012 11:27 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message1158.12.6.201.135.1335885236.squir...@popaccts.quikus.com, J. For ster writes:

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C

In message 4fa006e8.5040...@verizon.net, Stan, W1LE writes: I will use a HP-3336C with the station 10 MHz (GPS/DO) reference. Typo: trigger should really be 11.148272 Hz instead of KHz ! You need a really amazing stable and noise-free trigger to lock onto a 5.5Hz (see below) sine at the

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C

I use a 1.000 MHz crystal oscillator module and a Tek DD501. It produces 1 pulse every (preset count-1) of input cycles. Triggering a scope is trivial. -John = In message 4fa006e8.5040...@verizon.net, Stan, W1LE writes: I will use a HP-3336C with the station 10 MHz (GPS/DO)

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C

Hello PHK, Thanks for the tips. I have not done this yet, so I am creeping along. I also have a 33120A with the the option 001 for using an external reference. Sounds like the arbitrary signal capability is the way to go, If I can not find an appropriate 2100/2100F output. Thanks Stan,

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C

I have not been able to do anything work and a strong investment in time in plumbing this week. Hey you have to fix'em occasionally. Regards Paul. On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Stan, W1LE stanw...@verizon.net wrote: Hello PHK, Thanks for the tips. I have not done this yet, so I am creeping

[time-nuts] Loran C back on

Hi all; Receiving Wildwood NJ GRI 8970 here in northern Indiana again today. FYI Rich - Original Message - From: time-nuts-requ...@febo.com To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 8:21 PM Subject: time-nuts Digest, Vol 93, Issue 152 Send time-nuts mailing list

Re: [time-nuts] Loran C back on

Rich, Thanks for the heads up. I will turn stuff back on. Stan, W1LE Cape Cod FN41sr On 4/29/2012 8:26 PM, Rich and Marcia Putz wrote: Hi all; Receiving Wildwood NJ GRI 8970 here in northern Indiana again today. FYI Rich ___ time-nuts

[time-nuts] LORAN-C at MIT

At the MIT Flea today, I saw 4x Austron 2100Fs for about $25 each. There was also a LORAN-C simulator and a Stanford LORAN-C unit for $200. Seems the stuff is hitting the skids. -John ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C at MIT

[mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of J. Forster Sent: 15 April 2012 19:41 To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] LORAN-C at MIT At the MIT Flea today, I saw 4x Austron 2100Fs for about $25 each. There was also a LORAN-C simulator and a Stanford LORAN-C unit for $200. Seems the stuff

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