that gets its time from an NTP server...
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of both the amount f power used and accuracy IRIG is better
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doubt the clock end plus the drivers would be
over $30. I suspect IRIG would cost a bit more once you got it all worked
out.
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I've seen LLCD computer monitors used as clocks. Seems this would be
the perfect
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But for many applications, the inevitable overhead
(power, heat, external components, OS, etc) simply
eliminates the gain of having a better/faster CPU.
Sometimes I end up using a 6 or 8 pin PIC with only
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the problem is not 100% universal.
Since I'm still testing bits all four of my clocks are on the same
gigabit switch so I don't expect to see simultaneous negative and positive
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for even a
simple project to hit $100. In that case the micro is 1% of the total cost. A
very fancy, factor of 100 better micro than a basic PIC is *maybe* $6 these
days. Depending on how you define and measure better, the answer could be $3.
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and efficiency only provided by assembler.
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. If so you can mix C and Assembly. Typically you
would only ever write at most a few critical sections in assembly.
That is the best advice, find a good C compiler. UNLESS this is all
new to you and you don't have years of programming experience. In
that case get an Arduino.
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Can you tell me what program will open the .SCH files?
Without looks ing 'd guess Eagle CAD. There is a free version and it
runs on many platforms, Google will find it.
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to what is reasonable
Don't over pay. These were neat devices in their day but now we have
Raspberry Pi for $35 and Arduino and TI's Launchpad lineup.
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? It would be easy enough to use a
transistor if it improved the timing enough to matter.
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slow clock, it could be that a 10us transition will be too fast to pass the
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with NEMA.
And interresting trick is to put two or more GPS units on the same
computer. then use NTP to compare. You can test out what works best
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the PPS to better than 1 uS.
For a long time I've been wnting to build an external counter for NTP.
But it would have to use some very fast logic family.
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Hope someone find this useful.
Cheers!
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on Battery power for the
entire year the Rb unit is not going to work
The OP's 1 second per year goal is only asking for 3.2E-7 level
performance if I did the math correctly. Even the $100 Rb is at
least 100 times better than required.
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they'd use a $100K pico sat for that.
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to pay taxes on each of those sales. This is a formula for
disaster.
You as a selling would NOT have to worry Pay Pal could hand the taxes for
you. Sellers would not have to do much.
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Another advantage of VMware is that it makes it very easy to export the Win
XP console display to any computer with a web browser
A platform neutral version of LH would be nice but who has the time for
that, especially when you can virtualize Win XP.
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LH will run even under Linux or Macs just fine if you run a Win XP image
inside VMware. I'm pretty sure VMware runs on Win 7 or Win 8.So you
can
always continue to use the Old Win XP even on newer and newer computers.
These is a fre version of VMware or you can
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LH will run even under Linux or Macs just fine if you run a Win XP image
inside VMware. I'm pretty sure VMware runs on Win 7 or Win 8.So you
can
always continue to use the Old Win XP even on newer and newer computers.
These is a fre version of VMware or you can try
%20Ring%20Theory.htmlhttp://www.javad.com/jns/index.html?/jns/technology/Choke%20Ring%20Theory.html
Their conclusion is you want the depth of the ring to be slightly more
than 1/4 lambda. lambda/4 for L1 is 1.87 so a 2 cake pan is just about
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and then measure leakage from the mid span
of the cable. Turn up the power until either you can detect some or the
transformer fails. The trick is to use good quality transformers on each
end so the signal really is well balanced. I salvage the transformers for
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. they make some very easy to use connectors and look
like logic level ICs on each end. Send a 10MHz square wave in one and you
get the same thing out the other end. A more creative idea is a laser.
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pan with enough accuracy to get a
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is certainly affordable, something like $60. but what is a fancy
antenna? How are they different from a normal timing antena?
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that
require axial force to install is that there is a rube seal that goes
over the outer insolation jacket. This seal keep water out of the
most critical place. The liquid rubber paint works well too.
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that is in parallel with the center conductor while a
crimp tool applies the force at a 90 degree angle to the center
conductor.
Also while you can kind of fake it by using improvised tools to
attach a crimp type connector you must have the right tool to attach a
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but with a laser rather then an
electron beam. You can draw just about anything on a CRT. The trick
is to keep the beam modulation in sync with the scan mirror the scan
motor will make a pulse you can use for that.
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is a moving dot, A laser pointer glued to
the shaft of a stepper motor would work and be even simpler.
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COSMIC and (coming soon) COSMIC-2 also do GPS occultation.
Yes, but COSMIC is not a constellation of 12 satellites and it is not as
cheap either. These guys want to put up 12 satellites at a total cost of
only $160M
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be as good as a few mS.
In your case you'd need GPS or some other reference clock to get
there. Most people are getting no better than 10s of mS over the
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Yes it is a lot of work for nothing.
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clock's rate gets closer to correct it waits longer and
longer. The longer times are actually a good sign. BUT somehow
people think forcing a one second or one minute interval is better.
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are in phase to start with the
built-in randomness of the 24MHz clock saves the day and then the
control loop forces them eventually to be not in phase by 1024/24M
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are new to the
field it is good to have easy examples to study.
about image caching, simplest way is to use a cgibin script rather
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is no more readable than the HEX
file. So I doubt many builders asked for the code not when the magic
boxes where available for a few bucks.
But if you do look at it, it read free for noncommercial use. So
we don't have to guess at what he would have wanted.
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think this is all moot because as I just wrote in another email the
PPS signal never gets out of the 74hct4046 chip. What gets out is
the output of Phase Detector #3. You've have to know in some
detail how the 4046 chips' PD3 works.
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pulse widths that lie within a
critical range.
Bruce
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S/LS logic was introduced in the mid 70's, F/AS/ALS around 1980, HC was
early 80's. By the third 7400 generation (F/AS/ALS) the problem
rate (I think one count per 30 seconds?)
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In normal operation, the counter is clocking back and forth across the 1024
/ 24,000,000 boundary. It has to do this for the control loop to see
anything. Put another way, if it's always 1024 / 24,000,000
that a normal TTL $2 can
oscillator is actually good enough and he is tossing out the GPSDO.
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range with the standard NTP distribution.
Again, not that many people need this but that is not the point if you
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it to run on a new version of the OS or an iPad or
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But in all cases the conversion to local time is done locally.
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to be complete except that there is no link to
the assembly language source code. Only the hex file is available.
The QST article said thew source was available but I don't think it is
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news is that you can buy a good one for under $20 on eBay so there is
not much reason to make do and one that does not work well.
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But do remember to ground the pipe. Give lightening an easy and
direct path to ground and it will follow that route.
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Do you have suggestions on what sort of antenna to use to pick up the LCD
AC E-field? I'd expect the LCD drive current to be vanishing small.
Many turns of fine magnet wire going all the way around the device.
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hardware. I liked the idea of a time stamping counter it´s very doable
in a FPGA :)
FPGA?? All you need is a standard PC with an RS232 port and a 6V
transformers and you can use the pC normally while it is logging.
Works at the microsecond level. Software is already available.
Chris
makes use
of I to send packets.
UDP is User Datagram Protocol and it also use IP.
In turn IP can run over any number of physical networks like Ethernet,
WiFi X25, or ISDN.
Chris Albertson
Redondo Beach, California
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On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 9:54 PM, DaveH i...@blackmountainforge.com wrote:
IP can be run on a lot of different platforms.
Check out Request for Comments: 1149
Even better, check out the guys who actually implemented RFC1149.
This page has links.
http://www.blug.linux.no/rfc1149/
Chris
. What you are left
with is a file that lists the time of each zero crossing. You get 60
new lines of text every second.
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Redondo Beach, California
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