Re: [time-nuts] F9T, was Re: Ublox F9P PPS output

2019-02-13 Thread Achim Gratz
Bob kb8tq writes: > It’s just like the other uBlox modules (and just like the F9T …) the external > input is a once a second time stamper with an 8 ns resolution (just like the > +/- 4 ns on the sawtooth ….). A minor nit: If it works as the M8 series does (which is very likely), the timestamp

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent RFTGm-II-XO / Lucent RFTGm-II-Rb / NT BW50AA

2019-02-13 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi The trick is that a good 125 MHz OCXO has better phase noise at 100 Hz than a multiplied 5 or 10 MHz OCXO. By the time you get to 30 Hz, usually the lower frequency multiplied up wins. By the time you get to 3 Hz, the much higher Q HF OCXO always wins. (Yes, you could have a great 125 MHz

Re: [time-nuts] F9T, was Re: Ublox F9P PPS output

2019-02-13 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi It’s just like the other uBlox modules (and just like the F9T …) the external input is a once a second time stamper with an 8 ns resolution (just like the +/- 4 ns on the sawtooth ….). One would *guess* they are using the same free running / TCXO clock for both the PPS out and the timestamp

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent RFTGm-II-XO / Lucent RFTGm-II-Rb / NT BW50AA

2019-02-13 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi Jim, On 2019-02-13 14:24, jimlux wrote: On 2/12/19 6:31 PM, Bob kb8tq wrote: Hi The normal approach as you head from HF up through stages to microwaves is to stop at various points along the way. Just where depends on the actual noise you measure on the sources you have. (Yes you have

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent RFTGm-II-XO / Lucent RFTGm-II-Rb / NT BW50AA

2019-02-13 Thread jimlux
On 2/12/19 6:31 PM, Bob kb8tq wrote: Hi The normal approach as you head from HF up through stages to microwaves is to stop at various points along the way. Just where depends on the actual noise you measure on the sources you have. (Yes you have to measure them yourself). Once you have your

Re: [time-nuts] F9T, was Re: Ublox F9P PPS output

2019-02-13 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi Bob, Do you say that you managed to get a external frequency input? Or is it a timestamp input? Cheers, Magnus On 2019-02-13 00:18, Bob kb8tq wrote: Hi The inability to switch the ext input over to time mode may be why they are still working on the F9T. I have gotten mine to work, darn

[time-nuts] Anyone have info on STel-9270 Universal DDS Interface

2019-02-13 Thread Skip Withrow
Hello Time-Nuts, Not strictly time-nuts related, but the group seems to have outstanding resources. I'm looking for information (specifically the serial commands) for the Stanford Telecom STel-9270 Universal DDS Interface. This box has a serial interface that talks to a PC and produces a

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent RFTGm-II-XO / Lucent RFTGm-II-Rb / NT BW50AA

2019-02-13 Thread jimlux
On 2/12/19 4:41 PM, Jeff Blaine wrote: OK.  I would still be interested to see if anyone has plots on the close in noise profile of the Lucents.  The XO part has an Efrom OCXO and I can assume it's similar to a generic OCXO.  But the RB is an unknown - I have no idea what to expect from that.

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent RFTGm-II-XO / Lucent RFTGm-II-Rb / NT BW50AA

2019-02-13 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi You have a *ton* of digital this and that all on a common ground with the RF output. The original specs didn’t sweat the spurs so the designs are what they are. The OCXO’s are down in the -130 dbc/Hz range at 10 Hz offset. The Rb’s ten’s of db worse. Nobody seemed to mind …. If you go